Amazon are going to fuck it up, aren't they?

Amazon are going to fuck it up, aren't they?

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it all depends on who is going to be showrunner

it could be kino af.

yup
nobody's trying to make art anymore
they're just trying to make money
it's gonna get boiled down to the box office formula
it will feel like every other blockbuster
and you will be disgusted

>noooooo dont fuck up my retarded socialist powerfantasy wankfest

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wait amazon is doing a culture series?

Yes. Just Consider Phlebas so far though.

>powerfantasy
>when the culture aren't even nearly the most powerful civ in their own setting

Who or what is phlebas?
What do I need to consider?
Is there a ringworld involved? I google and halo rings are popping up

O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.

Who gives a shit about background lore if literally every book ending is just a reveal that the culture knew everything all along and always does everything perfectly and is the ultimate good (besides in part excession which I admit is pretty good actually).

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Veppers outsmarted the Culture and used them to destroy Hell in Surface Detail.

excession is my shit
that book lights up my imagination, man

>Is there a ringworld involved?
Yes. It gets blown up.

you know what'd make a better movie?
The Algebraist

>It gets blown up

More sliced and diced in a sort of controlled demolition crossed with fireworks display.

Phlebas has a lot of spectacle and a pretty straightforward adventure plot, though it's probably better suited to being adapted as a film than a series.

You're missing the point a bit. The stories aren't about the fate of an entire trillions-strong galaxy-spanning 'perfect' civlisation, they're about the fate of individuals and smaller civilisations on the fringes of it, and the questions those throw up about the Culture's ideals.

it'll be fine as long as they don't leave out the grossly fat cannibal with the metal teeth.

you know what would make a better movie? Player of Games.

It seems like the wrong book to pick. They should have gone with Use of Weapons or Surface Detail.

They cant fuck it up. It's a VERY progressive book. They will likely tone it down if anything.
>tfw i identify as a omnisexual chair. Turned into a living thinking chair, totally locked in syndrome except for intense sexual pleasure whenever anyone sits on me.

Thank you AI overlords.

The culture is constantly being portrayed as immoral fools that have stagnated in their own complacency. Hell they are even pseudo-villains in consider phlebas.

The synopsis makes it seem very different to what you claim.

>they will only ever adapt his culture works
Feelsbadman

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Pretty sure they arnt meant to be bad guys in the book unless you believe in organic self determination.

Meant for

>Sublimation is a mysterious and indescribable higher plane of existance
>Nah, just chant "I sublime" 3 times and you're cool
The last book he wrote was the worst, literally "we are super awesome and so much better than you we win ha ha ha the end"

He bought most of the Hells in the galaxy, put them on his estate, then organized their destruction through a complicated series of events he manipulated that would leave him free of any blame. He didn't count on the Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints turning up and having the woman he murdered several weeks earlier killing him.
Please, read the book before you reply.

The Culture is clearly intended as a proper utopian society, free of all want and prejudice with the principle of self determination taken to a ludicrous degree, yet it is also run by AI who treat its fleshy population as little better than pets, and it contains a self-appointed intelligence service which interferes ceaselessly in the affairs of less developed civilisations, to the point of starting or steering interstellar wars, with the goal of absorbing them into the Culture.

Larry Niven is still alive and ignored. I hope they make a movie based on his books before he is no more.

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Isn't the whole heaven and hell thing pointless as its just copies of the people? Not in the ambigious star trek transporter conundrum way, but explicitly stated to be copies. It really annoys me when sci-fi fails to address this very simple point.

>At last, I truly have become the Player of Games

But in the Cultureverse the virtual copies are just as cognizant as the originals, and in some cases arguably more so. In one book he brings up what he calls the"simulation problem", where in order to gain an accurate idea of what might occur in the future you'll eventually need simulations so accurate that the inhabitants are essentially just as alive as you or I, and that it would be immoral to end the simulation which would be effectively killing them.

I'm very surprised there's no Ringworld series in the works.

Culture are the villains in that book and you'd have to be retarded to mistake post-scarcity for socialist.

Huh, makes sense now. Pretentious as fuck to use The Wasteland, though.

Against a Dark Background sucked donkey dick.

>socialist
the only two outcomes of "holy shit we can make everything for free through the powers of technology" are either
>everyone gets free shit
or
>you are now all my slaves forever
the latter doesn't make for a very utopian utopia

Name some of his best books?

It's very dependent on taste. My favourite sci-fi novel is Excession and his non sci-fi is excellent. If you are interested in getting into the setting for the long haul, Consider Phlebas isn't a bad place to start if you like action.

basically, the entire series is about banks self-critiquing his idea of utopia, instead of just pretending everything would be 100% perfect in his ideal space civilization

That's what the synopsis says. Culture wins again.

Feersum Enjin
The Algebraist
Player of Games
Consider Phlebas
Non sci-fi ones are just degenerate liberal wank fests

the back and forth of the book wouldn't work on screen. the chair being made of bone can't exactly be obscured on screen.

That's Use of Weapons. Player of games is the one where the main character spends most of the book playing super space 40k.