Season 8 was a steaming pile of shit, but you're all wrong about why, and here's why.
You keep complaining about situational details. >"Hurr why dragon not kill Jon" >*BRAAP* ASDFGJ No one knows Bran MBSFDH >[Heaves] Why did [injects dorito dust] Grey Worm let [clutches greasy unwashed Arya body pillow] Tyrion talk?
The fact of the matter is that there *exists* justification for every single one of these things. Drogon didn't kill Jon because where Daenerys was his mother, Daenerys also loved Jon. That made Jon his father. If you came home and found your father to have killed your mother, would your first instinct be to kill him? Of course that explanation rings hollow and completely falls through, because we didn't get any screentime of Job bonding with the dragons. You know, the way Daenerys did in the first few seasons. Additionally, dragons are not retarded beasts of burden like horses. Drogon is smart enough to figure out that the Iron Throne is what caused all of this. It killed not only Dany, but his brothers, hell it killed his entire species as the Targaryens fought each other for it. It doesn't take a degree in philosophy to figure out that the throne would only continue to destroy as long as it existed. The reason why this explanation sounds dumb is because we never got a means of accurately gauging Drogon's intelligence one way or the other.
Meanwhile, Grey Worm had perfectly good reason not to immediately kill Jon and Tyrion. It would have started another fucking war with Sansa, for one thing. It's perfectly reasonable to treat random soldiers (e.g. the Golden Company) as cattle while treating POIs differently. Yes, I'm using plot armor as an excuse. This is one extremely isolated scenario in which it makes sense. They're important; you don't just kill important people without talking to someone about it. The problem is that we didn't get to see that negotiation. Or why Jon turned himself in to begin with, for that matter.
Bran goes without saying. Maybe people would know him if he, you know, did anything? Are you picking up on the pattern here? Give him screentime. Make him warg into something amazing and demonstrate his might before the people. Make an interplay with the Night King.
>Make Rhaegal's death actually matter with leadup and consequences >Make Euron actually have a storyline >Make more time for Jaime to relapse for Cersei >Make Arya actually do anything with her Faveless Man powers >Go literally anywhere besides Winterfell/Kings Landing. How's Gendry doing? How's Yara Greyjoy doing? How's Dorne doing? >Make Dany's descent take longer than 4 seconds >Make it more clear that Varys conspired against Dany. It's clear, yes, but kind of underwhelming considering the entire attempt on her life was offscreen. >Give Sansa a personality >Give Jon a personality >Give more emotional buildup to the Night King >Make the initial assault on KL not completely retarded >Make Missandei's death not completely shoehorned
The central issue is *more time*. Everything made sense, getting there was the problem. They rushed through it in 6 episodes when they were offered 10 and stretched the justification like taffy. If you're complaining about any one specific issue, you're a brainlet trying to poke holes in swiss cheese.
Asher Johnson
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Jayden Moore
Nigga I'm not reading this
Dominic Clark
>Everything made sense, getting there was the problem dude wtf, this is literally what almost everyone is complaining about. >give him screentime that's not a good explanation or even a good excuse, it's just plain shitty writing. they just didn't know what they were supposed to do with him, as for all intents and purposes he was the most OP character in the show. the same applies to everything else you mentioned. "Giving Euron a storyline" is not a good excuse, it's dumb af. Having Rahegal die like that was dumb as fuck, having Arya become an skilled assassin yet make her phase out at the burning of KL is incredibly dumb. Most storylines where wasted and had very weak completions. It was a bad finale, get over it.
Liam Evans
You should reply this way to every other post on Yea Forums that doesn't interest you. Fucking retard.
Lincoln Flores
Nobody gives a shit about you.
Gabriel Fisher
I do.
Henry Martin
Dany was right
Jacob Wood
>you're all wrong about why, and here's why The reason's you gave in have already all been said a dozen times in a dozen threads here.
Joseph Gomez
>That made Jon his stepfather. >If you came home and found your stepfather to have killed your mother, would your first instinct be to kill him?
Yeah. duh.
>Drogon is smart enough to figure out that the Iron Throne is what caused all of this.
Is he? Was it? Danny got stabbed because she was going to go roast the rest of the continent not because Jon wanted the chair or she wanted the chair. She didn't even need the chair to go roast people.
>Yes, I'm using plot armor as an excuse.
Must've spent a whole hour tugging that double digit IQ all the way to the finish line huh?
Adrian Young
can anybody give me a tldr for this thread?
Jace Rogers
>show bad because >I'M SMART AND KNOW WHY >YOU DON'T
>You see >smug smug smug smug
>Dragon not murdering Jon is okay because Jon is Dragon's dad >Dragon burning chair actually smart because dragon know things >Greyworm not murder midge or manlet because he smart and do smart thing >smug smug smug
REALLY SMART THERE OP
Joseph Reed
Me too.
Aaron Anderson
I liked everything about the ending except this casting couch roastie who only survived past season 5 because kikes love to see a fairly useless woman get rewarded for doing absolutely nothing except be a victim their whole life.
Henry Bell
based and redpilled cringe and cuckpilled
Landon Sullivan
>>Give more emotional buildup to the Night King fuck off, the first two episodes this season where way to much ''build up'' for the night king and also the 2 worst episodes of the entire series.
Aiden Lee
His opinion is a whole lot more valuable than whatever comes out of your fucking mouth, fucknuts.
Alexander Scott
Holy shit, look at those two pathetic onions-sucking motherfuckers
Ethan Rivera
Shut the fuck up and crawl back to your "comfy" subreddit, you subhuman piece of shit.
Nicholas Foster
They were the best this season.
John Perry
this user gets it. OP lacks critical thinking skills. the fucking new ruler of westeros has to show at least some level of heroism. bran looks and sounds like an utter retard. the show did not reveal bran's power or usefulness during the 2 moments that counted: the literal fucking undead ice zombies attacking, and preventing the dragon from torching the biggest city in the land. of the few lines bran says, already you can spot 2 huge inconsistencies. he says he doesn't want anything, doesn't want to inherit power over winterfell, and then does a complete 360 and says he came all that way to be a candidate for the ruler of westeros.
he says he's the 3ER but then asks that there is no master of whispers at the first small council meeting. these little details aren't little. they show a complete lack of understanding and thinking ability on the part of the showrunners/writers/directors.
keep in mind that bobby b was made king of westeros because ultimately he was the one who defeated the targ heir to the throne. the financier/kingmaker was tywin. in the case of bran, there is no financier...they wanted to give the richest area, the reach, to the dickless soldiers. in the case of bran, he didn't help defeat anything, he didn't help save kingslanding from the dragon even though he had the power to do so, he didn't give useful info on the NK aside from "hahah he wants to kill me because i am the memory of mankind".
what a fucking shitshow. the fact that these people earned millions of dollars is an insult to anyone who has to work for a living. it's an insult to money itself. money is devalued when it is paid to whores and dumbfuck retards like dabid&weiss.
Cameron Myers
Embarrassing post
Jace Lopez
need more time
Dylan Jackson
>hmm what should I name the dragon character??? >it better be good, i can't fuck this up >i know, how about "drogon"
Game of Thrones is not Conan or Sword & Sorcery Consequences follow through People are greedy Bad people win Why are you shocked that a monarchy would reassert itself or people would act in their own self interest against what is best?
i be worried too if a post on an online discussion board made me lose 90% of my IQ nig you better protect what you have left
Adrian Lopez
That's because there is more interesting text you can spend your time reading.
Austin Flores
Yeah, there's way too much text in the OP. Somebody needs to learn how to summarize properly. The fuck is wrong with you people? He merely stated his opinion.
Jaxson Lewis
named after khal drogo u brainlet
Ayden Jackson
I THINK Drogon knew from the first meeting that A.) Jon was a Targaryen, and quite possibly even that B.) HE was the legitimate heir to the throne. Yeah, it loved its surrogate mom and was pissed for several reasons, but ultimately it cannot harm Jon.
>If you came home and found your father to have killed your mother, would your first instinct be to kill him? Uh, yeah? That's what instinct does. It's your frontal cortex that knows better justice but that doesn't negate bloodthirst and rage impulses.
Daniel Torres
tourist faggot spotted
Samuel Gomez
Absolutely fucking based
Jose Martinez
NO you fuckin idiot. Drogon didn't kill Jon cause of dat TARGARYAN BLOOD he smells. the fuck you think it's gonna kill the only remaining targaryan it knows?!
>If you came home and found your father to have killed your mother, would your first instinct be to kill him yes
Leo Cruz
>your hehehehe
Leo Jenkins
this is the only right answer normalfags and Yea Forumstards alike are such brainlets they can't understand this simple connection between dragons and targs. which further reveals that the show did a shitty job at making it painfully obvious: JON IS AEGON THE LAST REMAINING TARGARYAN MALE, AND DRAGONS DO NOT HARM TARGS.
if they had included a scene in which its revealed dany is pregnant from jon's targ seed, and that dragons love jon because he's a targ, then a lot of things could have been different. but keep in mind who are the showrunners. they don't give a fuck, they already raped and pillaged the show, took their profits and are moving on to the next pop culture franchise to ruin. i hope they fuck star wars into the ground too. i hope dabid goes through a very expensive divorced and has to take on more writing/showrunner jobs, continuing to fuck up every major capeshit and getting more normalfags to hate his tribe.
Jeremiah Anderson
At least his mother didn't drop him on his head during childbirth and he didn't grow up to be a shit-spouting idiot on a Chinese milk-shaving forum.
Nathan Ramirez
I'm with on this one. OP is a worse writer than J.K. Rowling.
careful now. you know what happens when posts get wordy around here.
Luis Thomas
>AND DRAGONS DO NOT HARM TARGS one thing that I am still not settled on is the immunity to fire. Was it just Dany at the moment she had the magic eggs or is it all Targaryens?
Sounds like that would make OP a mediocre writer at worst, considering Rowling is richer than your entire extended family put together.
Ryder Perez
What is this pic?
Colton Kelly
based
Landon Rodriguez
it is a wee Anglo Saxon house and homesteead in a motte and bailey. That's basically a moat with a hill and a fortification on top. Looks like a CG render for a history class or something. Comfy/10 would live there with Hilda, muh beowuifu
Christian Nelson
all the anger in this thread... all because niggers are too dumb to read more than two lines.
Lincoln Bell
it's beautiful
Connor Martin
Damn, good one!
Robert Roberts
nigga im not reading this
Aiden Clark
cringepost
Robert Green
It really is. We have a few reconstruction efforts for the real thing here in England. Few originals remain though. Glad to live in a place with such history.
Owen Cox
The hype was built up over 8 seasons, what it needed was a satisfying way to defeat the Night King that was more than just a random stabbing.
Ryder Morales
Why are you so angry OP? You seem incapable of making a single post that doesn't follow with a string of edgy insults.
Chase Young
there should ideally have been a night king march on Kings Landing and a dual effort between Cersei and Dany's factions (but of course bitter scheming against one another) to fight him back and a show down in the throne room between him and Jon. Dany dies in the effort, Cersei sees how her selfishness has brought ruin to a world and she is queen over a wasteland, and her and Jamie have a murder suicide scene. Then Jon avenges Dany's death and saves what is left of the kingdoms. He is reluctant, but sits on the throne regardless, ready to put the kingdom back together. Exuant.
Jace Wright
Do you fucking realize where you are right now?
Levi Turner
The ending should be Peter Dinklage coming out, after a freeze frame - not in costume but as his normal self. He should look into the camera and say >it really was a game of thrones fade to black >T H E E N D 5 seconds of just blackness > ?
Kevin Ramirez
There's no Saxon Thane simulator then? A damn shame.
Cooper Perez
internet slapfights like every other thread ever.
James Scott
literally better than having Professor X get elected king and let Bronn be Reichs Chancellor.
Nolan Moore
bunch of people mad because reading takes effort
Samuel Ortiz
Not defending Op but why do faggots like you reply to threads the you claim to not care about? And yeah op we get it the season sucked get over it.
Christopher Howard
>being contratian to the already contrarian hivemind of Yea Forums
Brayden Smith
>being contrarian to the contrarians of the contrarian hivemind of Yea Forums
Eli Parker
tragically no, you can play Kingdome Come Deliverance if you wnat, but that's bohemia. I wish we had more historical game slike that.
Hunter Cruz
One: No shit Yea Forums is retarded when it comes to actual critical analysis. Yea Forums, like many other people who consume media, don't know how to identify weaknesses in writing aside from "plot holes", used incorrectly as a catch-all term for things that don't "make sense" because they expect characters to always act or think in 100% completely rational and logical ways, and it's always framed as obvious in retrospect. A lot of people are shitty at articulating why a story sucks; they just know they didn't like it and latch on to shallow reasons to rationalize their dislike.
Two: Lack of time to properly develop the connective tissue between points in character arcs is what lots of people are trying to say as the last two seasons' weaknesses because the large shifts in character don't "make sense" in the context of the things that have actually happened to them in the story. People can rationalize and infer all sorts of reasons that can then be hung on plot points to draw logical lines between the dots, but there are often large blank spots where the audience is doing a lot of heavy lifting and it feels cheap and artificial as a consequence.
You aren't smart just because you spend 4000 characters saying, "The reason the season sucks is because they didn't do it better."
