>Recall the lowest point in the dialogue of Game of Thrones when Daenerys tells Jon that if he cannot love her as a queen then fear should reign – the embarrassing, vulgar motif of a sexually unsatisfied woman who explodes into destructive fury.
>Can the ruthless killing of the thousands of ordinary people in King’s Landing really be justified as a necessary step to universal freedom? At this point, we should remember that the scenario was written by two men.
>Daenerys as the Mad Queen is strictly a male fantasy, so the critics were right when they pointed out that her descent into madness was psychologically not justified. The view of Daenerys with mad-furious expression flying on a dragon and burning houses and people expresses patriarchal ideology with its fear of a strong political woman.
>The one who remains (as the queen of the autonomous kingdom of the North) is Sansa, a type of women beloved by today’s capitalism: she combines feminine softness and understanding with a good dose of intrigue, and thus fully fits the new power relations. This marginalisation of women is a key moment of the general liberal-conservative lesson of the finale: revolutions have to go wrong, they bring new tyranny.
>And one cannot help but note that those faithful to Daenerys to the end are more diverse – her military commander is black – while the new rulers are clearly white Nordic. The radical queen who wanted more freedom for everyone irrespective of their social standing and race is eliminated, things are brought back to normal.
FUCK off with this click-bait advertsing TRASH you piece of human filth.
William Price
>>>/leftypol/
Carson Brooks
DUDE EVERY BENIGN THING MUST CONFORM TO MY WESTERN POLITICAL VIEW LMAO
Camden Harris
Season 8 was malignant af
Asher Allen
>mad-furious Ayo she MAD furious
Christian Thomas
>the embarrassing, vulgar motif of a sexually unsatisfied woman who explodes into destructive fury.
have sex lol
Sebastian Peterson
>zizek is pro danaerys knew it. Danyfags == commies
Chase Torres
>the greatest intellect the west can muster at this point is an obese slav whose intellectual contributions are anal sex analogies and making political statements on last nights game of thrones.
>Stephen King who noted that dissatisfaction was not generated by the bad ending but the fact of the ending itself. In our epoch of series which in principle could go on indefinitely, the idea of narrative closure becomes intolerable.
He's right
Blake Howard
>So justice prevailed – but what kind of justice? The new king is Bran: crippled, all-knowing, who wants nothing – with the evocation of the insipid wisdom that the best rulers are those who do not want power.
And they put Tyrion in charge of everything despite being a complete fuckup and act like it's a punishment
Actually a pretty interesting article. Now let's watch dopamine-fried shitbrains try and take down a fucking titan like Zizek. not even memeing
Robert Sanchez
just turn your brain off
Colton Morales
Dont click this link. It helps give money to clickbait journalists.
Henry Reyes
The most important line he wrote is >revolutions have to go wrong, they bring new tyranny. Of course since he's an unironic marxist he believes this is somehow untrue.
Isaac Nguyen
I am quite interested to know. Do you honestly think Zizek is intelligent?
Easton Clark
He actually doesn't
Joshua Allen
I'm torn. On the one hand, I'm glad to see people finally starting to criticize GoT after four seasons of flagging quality. On the other hand, a lot of their criticisms (especially on the SJW side of things) are retarded.
>Daenerys as the Mad Queen is strictly a male fantasy Yeah, there are no dudes out there masturbating into their dakimakuras whilst thinking about Dany committing war crimes.
>her descent into madness was psychologically not justified Actually, Dany's predilection for extreme violence is pretty well justified even in show. Yeah, it's not quite as well developed as in the books, but they've done a good job of showing her willingness to resort to extreme measures. Where they did fuck up was in showing this particular act (burning all the people of King's Landing) to be reasonable from her perspective. They needed to spend an episode with her in occupied Casterly Rock, being attacked by the smallfolk (or something similar). They needed something to justify her going all Tarkin beyond her Elliot Roger-esque blue balls.
> she combines feminine softness and understanding with a good dose of intrigue, and thus fully fits the new power relations Sansa is a cunt in the show. She treated Edmure, a guy that's gone through hell because of her brother's mistakes, like shit.
> revolutions have to go wrong, they bring new tyranny They do. It's a rare revolution in history that doesn't result in significant amounts of bloodshed and misery beyond what the previous status quo provided.
>And one cannot help but note that those faithful to Daenerys to the end are more diverse Not by much. The Westerosi are comprised of three distinct ethnic groups, and the Unsullied are indoctrinated bugmen with zero culture of their own. The Dothraki don't really have much culture beyond rape and violence, so they're a pretty good argument for diversity being neutral or even negative.
Cameron Kelly
>YU AH MUH QUEEN Also he's grasping at straws like a typical intellectual to excuse poor writing and pacing by the showrunners while reading too much into the intentions of Martin
>At this point, we should remember that the scenario was written by two men. Daenerys as the Mad Queen is strictly a male fantasy, so the critics were right when they pointed out that her descent into madness was psychologically not justified. The view of Daenerys with mad-furious expression flying on a dragon and burning houses and people expresses patriarchal ideology with its fear of a strong political woman.
>The radical queen who wanted more freedom for everyone irrespective of their social standing and race is eliminated, things are brought back to normal. They invent democracy and elect a disabled boy.
Luke Rodriguez
>revolutions have to go wrong, they bring new tyranny. this is pretty much always the case the only post-revolution societies that were kind of peaceful were probably the ones when the soviet union fell and the Indian revolution (although you could argue that these systems were just replaced by the tyranny of corrupt governments and the tyranny of the resurfacing caste system)
Luke Ramirez
have sex
Brody Brooks
They didn't invent democracy. The elites picked a leader, as opposed to the leader already having emerged from the elites from popularity like Robert or Robb
Logan Lopez
Lefty “intellectuals” are such a joke. They cannot watch a tv show about dragons without bitching about muh capitalism.
Then again, Jordan Peterson is another charlatan but gets praised by the right.
Christian Hughes
>ZIZEK is a social studies cuck dropped
Grayson Richardson
>two men dont know what is realistic for a women >but i, a man, do Paragon of logic
>bunch of cheap race shit thrown in at the end Just for that well rounded commie flavor
Benjamin Turner
>Aerys II also wanted to burn down King's Landing because of sexual dissatisfaction, not Targaryen coin toss curse Or >Red fatass doesn't know for shit what he's talking about Which one is more likely?
Alexander Davis
when did he become a SJW neo-marxist? i thought he was a classic marxist tankie
Jose Howard
he can always take comfort in the fact that, unlike its Game of Thrones counterpart, in real life socialist revolution worked out well.
Easton Russell
i thought zizek was above watching game of thrones. hes outed himself as a normie
Brody James
It wasn't supposed to be like this! It was supposed to be a critique of the application of violence!
Brody Green
good argument
Hudson Williams
This. So relieving to finally have a litmus test for who's a knuckle-dragging retard who doesn't deserve the time of day.
Eli Gutierrez
I can't believe I'm defending the show and I like Zizek but a lot of the shit he is saying is the least charitable version you could possibly muster up. She didn't go nuts because Jon didn't fuck her, what a retarded thing to say. Also reading into things like ethnicity way too deeply when they literally have no relevance to anything really. I doubt DnD even considered that they were proving that radical revolution is impotent and that clearly white nordic peoples should maintain rule. Do they really honestly think DnD put this much thought into it?
William Kelly
1989-1991 That was hard
Brandon Wood
zizek hates nolan batman and loves marvel, who cares what he thinnks
Michael Anderson
I knew he was a Commie, but a Trot-tard too? Hilarious.
Kevin Harris
>Zizek capitulating to the chorus of narrative makers and opinion influencers whining endlessly over popular media refusing to flatter them or their impotent utopian notions
Very uncharacteristic him. I thought this might've been a fake article before I visited the link.
Caleb Morales
Of course he hates Nolan Batman, that is right wing kino.
Brandon Wilson
Absolutely he's brilliant
Luis Powell
I used to like him, as a character..never took it seriously...now i know i was wrong for liking him.
>Capitalist society >Content created is parallel to the current ideology
You're dumb and you should feel dumb
Asher Howard
I hope writing a snarky greentext misinterpretation of his post made you feel smart.
Owen Morris
Why is Yea Forums taking this article so seriously? Zizek's just trying to cash out on that easy article money.
Jaxson Evans
how so? anything in particular that caused you to change your opinion on a particular belief or view?
for me, he just does the same old predictable Frankfurt School critical theory deconstruction stuff without offering a better alternative. Criticism is cheap and plentiful these days.
Joshua Martin
He knows he's reading what he likes from what boils down to two 9th graders rushing out homework, right?
Bentley Johnson
imagine applying your feminist bullshit to a grimdark fantasy
Even diddling around King finished the Dark Tower series quicker. He's actually a step above Gurm.
Jace Jenkins
what a leftypol fag
Hunter Mitchell
Any real intellect would be suppressed so hard people wouldn't even recognise what happened. Most probably couldn't tell real ideas anymore either, so it's not really even a threat.
Noah Butler
he doesn't do that, his lacanian/Hegelian pedigree distinguishes himself sufficiently enough from the Frankfurt school, he's social media Adorno, he isn't a pure Marxist because he's carrying out an ontological, and not merely economic, critique of capitalism, because he thinks capitalism and the psychodynamics of desire and an ontology of the subject are all intrinsically linked.
and he's also basically a materialist atheist theologian, he has more interesting things to say about Christ and God than most actual Christians alive today
Joshua Brooks
he's not social media Adorno*
Oliver Carter
>He's right Except nobody is upset about series ending on good notes. >Mad Men >Justified
Jason Fisher
Fucking cringe. Go back to /r/The_Donald
Liam Hughes
have sex
Isaiah Russell
They invented Bourgeois Democracy which isn't real democracy.
Nathan Thomas
Guaranteed he didn't even watch it. He admits this in his analysis of The Wire.
Joshua Roberts
>The one who remains (as the queen of the autonomous kingdom of the North) is Sansa, a type of women beloved by today’s capitalism: she combines feminine softness and understanding with a good dose of intrigue, and thus fully fits the new power relations. This marginalisation of women is a key moment of the general liberal-conservative lesson of the finale: revolutions have to go wrong, they bring new tyranny.
>Sansa was a major figure in the North's rebellion >Even after Jon sold them out to Dany still regularly argued the decision and never missed a beat to be a snide bitch to Dan. >Actually fucking secedes even when her brother is actually King and becomes straight up Queen of the North. >Whole character arc is basically losing her childish naivety of becoming a proper lady and becoming a ruthless mistrusting cunt who refuses to dress like anything other than a super villain. The fuck is he talking about? How is Sansa a "good girl" archetype that plays nicely within the status quo when she spits in the face of the sweetest deal that the North has gotten since Ned ended up being blood brothers with the New King all because she's still dead set on accomplishing the goal of the decade long rebellion despite the all the reasons for doing so literally being dead? Sansa seceding is simply an uncharacteristically bloodless end to a bloody rebellion that claimed the lives of hundreds. His characterization of Sansa definitely implies that.
Lucas Wright
>the embarrassing, vulgar motif of a sexually unsatisfied woman who explodes into destructive fury.
I thought you guys said Zizek was based and not a soiboi
Blake Hill
>this faggot is one of the most recognisable things about my country By god I hope Luka Dončić gets really big so he can completely overshadow this lardball.
Jacob Gray
Seriously. I'm from a slav country near Slovenia and I've never heard of this faggot before I saw western commies on the internet worship him. Why is he relevant? kek
Benjamin Barnes
>"don't criticize anything unless you can come up with something better." >cops and prosecutors shouldn't get any form of immunity and should be subject to far more strict vetting and training, as well as far stricter rules of engagement for lethal encounters. >"RRRRREEEEEEEEE BLUE LIVES MATTER; SIMON DIDN'T SAY YOU DUMB LIBS"
Ethan Ramirez
He is a tankie's wet dream, a hip slav commie who isn't guilty of gulaging anyone and has some cred in some "intellectual" circles.
Thomas Reyes
>Sansa >feminine softness hahahaha wat
Jackson Phillips
Croatian I'm guessing? Well anyway Žižek is pretty much the most mainstream philosopher alive today presumably because so much of his stuff focuses on movies which is the only thing people can relate to apparently. Also what said
Angel Morgan
Zizek made a similar argument about Black Swan and its supposed condemnation of ambition in women. He forgot to mention that every single other movie in the Aronofsky's filmography told the same basic story of obsession leading to madness, but with male protagonists.
This is what is happening here. If Dany was a guy, the fact that the show was commenting on how Western imperialism uses the language of progress and liberation to justify its expansion would be clear to everyone. But retards like Zizek don't allow for stories where ambitious women are presented as anything other than admirable.
He's a dumbass. And a plagiarist. And he looks like he doesn't shower.
Hudson Nguyen
Identity politics aside he is right that the usual "dude revolutions r always evil we need gradual change (aka no change)" is peak neoliberal nonsense
David Jackson
That's not what was being said on the show. Dany was a neocon. She was someone who, like Bush, used the language of liberation to justify her imperial ambitions.
Dominic Hughes
He’s not redpilled but he is based
Daniel Gray
Bush was 100% a puppet, and bo Cheney was not his string puller, just his handler.
Thomas Williams
Holy fuck, move on.
Thomas Morales
Bruh! The starks aren’t Nordic they are Celts, like Britons, Scots and the like. The old tongue is celtic and also their religion is too. The andals who were BTFO’d are representative of ANGLES/ anglo-saxons who everybody complains about, their entire fucking civilization almost gets destroyed due to their retardation and in-squabbling. The Targaryens are Hitlers wet dream, its basically in their fucking name ye numskull. They come from some ancient civilization and have magic and shit and dominate everything and keep their bloodline pure and are the most dominant/ ruthless peoples, thus their rule (through strength and intolerance of insubordination) brings peace.
Dany was an example of literally every dictator ever who had a mental illness that probably contributed to their success and prominence. These have very often throughout history been Men BUT also women.
Stfu
Aiden Parker
It hasn't even been a week faggot. Even the Cobra Kai generals lasted longer than a week.
Wyatt Ross
Yes, but the overall message is still that revolutions cannot be good, Dany starts as a revolutionary and becomes corrupted with power and ends up being another tyrant. At the end of the day she gets killed and everything returns to the status quo.
Contemporary media loves to sell this notion that radical change is always under all circumstances bad and only measured, slow change is of any worth. Mainly because the later is much easier to stifle.
Gabriel Diaz
archive that trash link you fucking queer
Joshua White
Nice
Leo Jenkins
They don't return to the status quo at the end of the series. They go from a hereditary monarchy to an elected one, which is actually a major step to anyone who doesn't have an immature and romanticized view of what constitutes progress.
And there is no anti-revolution messaged being pushed in popular media, that's a conspiracy theory. We celebrate a revolution every 4th of July in this country; it's hardy considered anathema.
Ian Evans
An elected monarchy decided by the noble houses which are still hereditary and at the end of the day have most of the power. And except for the King who is elected, the entire system works the exact same way as before.
4th of July is celebrated as a founding myth, not as a revolution.
What difference does that make to your typical commoner? How do their material conditions improve in any way? There's no notion of a public life there, it hasn't changed. There's no upward mobility. It's simply a different way for the aristocracy to organize themselves.
Jordan White
>he got paid thousands to write this fucking retards sustaining this blob
Chase Thomas
You're like a person who shits on the Magna Carta because England was still a monarchy after its ratification. An oligarchy and an aristocracy are objectively superior forms of governments than an absolute monarchy which is what they had before they decided to elect Bran.
Alexander Bennett
There's no reason to think this could last. Westeros is now like the elective monarchy of the Holy Roman Empire, where the Emperor was chosen by the prince-electors. Its successor state was the Kingdom of Prussia, an absolute monarchy. The necessary philosophy and cultural change just isn't there in Westeros, this could be a disastrous experiment that would soon end once the constituent kingdoms decide they're better off separate. Why should Dorne pay taxes that benefit the Riverlands? They could easily all fuck off within a century, and now we're back to square one with warring kingdoms. Tyrion spitballing an idea to ditch succession one afternoon in the dragon pit does not count as a philosophical or political foundation for the future.
Cooper James
Power being defused from the one to the few helps the common Westerosi by giving people in diverse geographical locations around the kingdom more power to help their local principalities thrive.
Cameron Price
What did you want? Khaleesi was an imperialist as well, who murdered people without trail as early as season 1. She wasn't going to set up a representative republic is Westeros; that was never a consideration. We went from a potential hereditary monarch whose ideology of anti-slavery lead her to sack entire cities and build up her army under the guise of liberation, to an elective monarchy that's also anti-slavery but has a less expansionist outlook. >They could easily all fuck off within a century, and now we're back to square one with warring kingdoms. How is the kingdoms choosing to split off and rule themselves not a form of progress?
Joshua Ortiz
Joke. People are so dumb any fat fuck can find a following online, look at sargon and this piece of shit.
Foreshadowing is not justification (Arya and Sansa had been at least as brutal as Danaerys feeding people to their parents/dogs yet they didn't turn into insane mass murderers after they had already won)
I think he means softness of appearance and mannerism
Maybe this is the case, maybe not, I haven't actually done a comparative study of pre and post revolution societies and neither have you.
Again, you miss the point. Westeros represents the white countries of the world, Europe, USA, I guess Australia and NZ whereas Dothraki/Unsullied represent all the brown people...he's saying it's a bit stereotypical that Danaerys' forces who represent rampant savagery all happen to be the other while the Westerosi who represent order are the familiar
Sebastian Flores
Hes pretty much a clown at this point, dancing around for entertainment. Though hes still does serious work in his books.
Jace Brown
Where does one begin with reading Zizek?
Brody Roberts
>this hack is talking about got now fucking fraud
Eli Miller
Lmao Dany is femcel now
Jayden Johnson
Dont lefties like to pretend that this guy is some sort of anthitesis to the general ridiculousness that plagues their movement?
This is just dumb identity politics BS, im not impressed.
Luke Carter
Its stereotypical because its based on history.
Kevin Williams
>zizek Why the hell everytime I listen something from him, it is some overly politicized view of normie tier movies, like Titanic and Avatar? Is he so famous because of people who are too dumb to understand anything without movie references?
its called a revolution because it always comes back.
Evan Barnes
>"we should not be PC leftists" >immediatly becomes a fat woman
also lol he'd literally defend killing the citizens irl (as people giving material support and not resisting evil regimes) according to his defense of the french revolution
>Black Swan and its supposed condemnation of ambition in women. He forgot to mention that every single other movie in the Aronofsky's filmography told the same basic story of obsession leading to madness, but with male protagonists. surprise surprise the "dirtbag left" guy is just a standard liberal sissy running cover for the corporate left
It's literally one of the biggest shows on the planet. Why would he not watch it for amusement? Intelligent people can enjoy schlock the same as everyone else.
>a man of culture should have no ideea what the prevailing cultural touchstones of the moment are hurrr-durrrr
Elijah Price
This. These idiots need to read Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit.
Jayden Perez
Naturally as a Stalinist Zizek is opposed to the notion that absolute power corrupts absolutely or that fanatics might eventually end up killing a lot of people on their path to liberate everyone. If he wasn't he couldn't be a Stalinist, could he.
Hunter Campbell
>You've misunderstood the term fantasy Great argument, dumbass.
>Foreshadowing is not justification Dany's atrocities are far worse than anything Sansa did. Sansa killed the man that raped her AND personally murdered her little brother. Arya is a bit murkier, but, even there, Dany has a higher body-count AND a worse record in terms of suffering-caused-before-death as shown on the show. I straight up wrote that they needed to show a better reason for burning King's Landing, but Dany's willingness to commit horrors is well established.
>I think he means softness of appearance and mannerism But she's not soft in appearance or mannerism. She's quite cold in her interactions with Arya and Jon throughout Season 8, and I already mentioned her interaction with Edmure.
>Maybe this is the case, maybe not, I haven't actually done a comparative study of pre and post revolution societies and neither have you. Lol. Where the fuck do you think you are?
>Again, you miss the point. Westeros represents the white countries of the world No, you stupid motherfucker, you miss the point. "White" people don't exist. That's a classification entirely based on American conceptions of race, and it's not applicable to fantasy Westeros. Fantasy Westeros has three distinct ethnic groups with their own religious and cultural backgrounds. Did you completely miss all those brown Dornishmen throughout the show? Fucking hell, it's not like the Dothraki or Unsullied were ethnically non-white in appearance. Both were clearly products of mixed ethnic background.
Logan Gutierrez
The fuck is this guy on about?
can't he just turn off his brain
Brandon Green
>We must overanalyse entertainment and insert politics into everything.
Fat fucking Slav Commie needs to shave and get a hair cut. Its like these people think all women are innocent and pure.
Zizek is right in that if Martin or Dumb and Dumber wanted to really make something with political nuance or to give Dannys goals some context, they would have shown how actually she managed the 7 kingdoms post her take over. Instead we are given a "mad queen", what does that even mean? She is crazy why exactly? The writers resolved to turn the show into the most lazy conservative resolution. As if in history there never existed Cromwell's, Robespierre's or Lenin's who got shit done.
Hudson Robinson
>As if in history there never existed [Genocidal Tyrant], [Shortlived Genocidal Tyrant] or [Ideologue That Gave Rise to Most Horrifically Efficient Genocidal Tyranny in History] who got shit done. Wow, great examples of revolutionary leaders whose reigns lead to sunshine and puppies. Got any more examples for how revolution doesn't almost inevitably lead to a worse status quo.
Juan Reyes
they do but everybody on /pol/ I mean Yea Forums is retarded
Tyler Richardson
>She is crazy why exactly? Because she's a Targ you tard. They don't have the best mental health record. I do think the mad queen turn in the show is shit, but that's because they weren't consistent with it. They didn't set it up properly and more importantly they had her "snap" which is retarded. She should have acted like she always does, except to people we actually relate to instead of unlikable slavers
Cameron Sullivan
>Stalin wanted a world revolution Nigger, read a book.
Jack Martin
all politics is identity politics, retard.
Carter Gray
Literally never met anyone that uses the term 'neoliberal' that isn't a raging socialist.
Bentley Rodriguez
based zizek
Joseph Stewart
sniiffs
Christian Bell
I usually love Zizek but he's totally retarded on that one.
Juan Brown
What about the French Revolution
Jordan Davis
she went full elliot rodgers
Alexander Long
you’re far more stupid than Zizek
Joshua Young
except that is literally 100% right. You're just in denial.
Easton Perry
all power structures are gonna be exploited communism at least payed lipservice to the proles
Jaxon Butler
led to the eu and neoliberalism
Jacob Baker
Actually, that was the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. NEXT!
Jayden Smith
so appearing intelligent is more important to you than being intelligent?
kind of vain desu
Brayden Nguyen
Dany is quite obviously a neolib. How is she a neocon? Do you even know the meaning of either of those words?
Andrew Morgan
wtf, i hate mass extinction events now
Brayden Gutierrez
>communism at least payed lipservice to the proles How magnanimous of it. Call me bitter but I prefer when systems don't pretend they're fucking me for my own good rather than theirs.
Samuel King
Do you?
Lucas Roberts
For most people in England, the status quo didn’t change after the signing of the Magna Carta, though. You’re being a fucking pedant.
Ethan Taylor
>zizek says something intentionally misleading and inflammatory to garner up some popularity >again >people eat it up harder than he eats hotdogs
Come on.
Ethan Torres
>And one cannot help but note that those faithful to Daenerys to the end are more diverse – her military commander is black – while the new rulers are clearly white Nordic. The radical queen who wanted more freedom for everyone irrespective of their social standing and race is eliminated, things are brought back to normal.
But this is how it would actually play out, in a fuedal medieval society. The one trying to bring freedom would get backstabbed and killed. Ever heard of the Peasants Revolt Zizek?
Zachary Cruz
Who is Robespierre?
Easton Adams
>She was someone who, like Bush, used the language of liberation to justify her imperial ambitions. yes >Dany was a neocon. no
she's closer to a democrat (neolib), they were just as bloodthirsty and imperial after 9/11 but paid more lipservice to human rights
Blake Sanders
Read up on it. Basically all it did was kill the old aristocracy which was followed by a new one.
Les Miserables is set AFTER the french revolution.
Michael Turner
So it okay that her father went mad for "no reason", but not her because... woman?
Wow, so this is the power of marxist intellectualism?
Sebastian Morris
cringe and bluepilled
Gabriel Brown
Yes. Dany is quite clearly more akin to Clinton than to Bush. She champions individual liberties and civil rights but then betrays these noble ambitions with her imperial aspirations and ruthless economic policy.
Jason Robinson
Yes, but ultimately there has been a shift in the status quo which has benefited the common people of France - they can now elect a leader and enjoy a life out from under the boot of the artistocracy. It took a while, yes, but it was a successful revolution eventually.
Sebastian Ramirez
What's Dany's 'ruthless economic policy'?
Kevin Gutierrez
>"i drunkenly ranted to my friends how daeny is the best character, and now i need to do full damage control"
this is fucking pathetic
Christopher Campbell
And now the French are being replaced in their own country. What a successful revolution!
Michael Bell
Literally who?
Matthew Bailey
Not to mention that America toppling communist regimes and their only real ideological enemy all through the Cold War and even today (Venezuela) has bipartisan support.
Christopher Foster
based and slavoijpilled
Lincoln Bailey
bend the knee and give me all you have or get lit on fire
Carson Foster
I thought he hated those new left SJW types, yet in this article he seems to have fully adopted their discourse.
William Young
>payed
I hope you didn't pay money for that English education.
Daniel Rogers
>birth rate is the only thing that matters africa is peak civilization if we by your standards
Tyler Diaz
Life under the USSR was far better than life under the Tsars.
Luke Diaz
>I prefer when systems don't pretend they're fucking me for my own good rather than theirs.
boy i hope you don't vote republican then
Liam Torres
>WOMEN CAN'T BE BAD REEEEEE Fuck off? The problem is not becoming Mad Queen as a fact in itself. Denying that it could happen disregards her as a rightful contender to the throne and a Targaryen from day 1.
I was joking with that last bit, you get my point though
Hudson Thomas
I don't think he hates it as much as he thinks it's a waste of time(abolish gender as a concept instead of creating more, etc etc)
but he's writing for GoT so whatever, time is wasted already
Mason Campbell
great argument user
Wyatt Kelly
lol omg u don't liek the libtarded SJW snowflakes with their trigger warning safe spaces? that's so interesting, now go back to r.eddit
Samuel Gonzalez
Strong women shouldn’t have to take a back seat while men subdue their ambitions. Let women win for once! Being a strong woman is not a character defect, nor a fatal flaw!
Zachary Sullivan
>Zizek shows up in spanish celebrity magazines. And he pretends to be an outcast when he is the most normie of the normies. Shame on him.
Jace Rivera
"Real Democracy" is just demagogy of the masses.
Lucas Rodriguez
Well I'm sure not retarded enough to vote for a democrat being that I'm a white male.
Thomas Taylor
I'm criticizing your educating and inability to spellcheck
Ryan Flores
> be commie > be retarded Imagine my shock
Adam Stewart
modern social justice is a smokescreen to distract the working class from their economic interests
>be nazi >lost to commie Gommie dumb tho!! Not like me!!
Tyler Bailey
implying that a white man in america will ever be "persecuted" more than being passed up for a job by a quota hire, which is already happening
"nuh uh, i'm gonna be replaced by the joos :("
Ayden Allen
Lmao, sounds like an EU official or maybe even a redditor. Why would anyone listen to this moron?
Kayden Butler
Sansa is not a strong woman. The show even makes a sordid attempt at arguing her rape made her stronger. But she is not strong. She embodies femininity, being soft and manipulative. She doesn’t take by force, like Dany. Dany taking power like a man would was her fatal flaw, in the eyes of our society women must earn power through strategising and scheming, never just walking in and taking what they deserve.
Justin Sanders
>spellcheck a grammatical error? >your educating educatION
christ, i hope this is just bait and you're not that retarded
Benjamin Howard
Based
Cameron Nelson
Your 'SHUT UP AND TAKE IT WHITE BOI' schtick might get better traction on some website that isn't this one. No thank you, faggot, I'm not gonna volunteer to get fucked up the ass just so the glorious multiracial horde (and that's a good thing) can satisfy their sense of grievance. Fuck them and fuck you.
James Rodriguez
>the new rulers are clearly white Nordic
wow I love GoT now!
Andrew Lee
That women will fuck this lumpy potato of a man only makes me respect them less. If my 'Titan', you mean 'Fat drunk'... Seriously, whatever brainpower this man claims to have, it's clearly been blown through a combination of gin-swilling and communism. Even the most brilliant man's an idiot when he allowed his ideology to blind him. This is nothing but 'White people = bad!' and whiteknighting.
Michael Campbell
He destroyed my old hero Jordan Peterson in an open and fair debate. Just anally raped him. So when I found a better set of arguments, I went with them.
I guess you're not interested in facts. Sad.
Kevin Cox
>glorious multiracial horde Even the whites in America fall under that heading you disgusting mutt
YOU WILL NEVER BE WHITE
Charles Rodriguez
iven that communists are historically notorious for their lack of respect for property rights and self ownership and have been responsible for the greatest mass murders in recent human history, we can deduce that they do not apply rights such as self ownership to others or themselves. Furthermore this means that communists can not be considered moral agents. One can not be considered a moral agent if one does not have an ability to make a moral judgement. Since these moral relativists reject the notion of morality altogether we know they are incapable of acting in a moral fashion. In order for rights to exist between two or more beings there must exist some level of reciprocation of rights. Such is the minimum requirement for one to be considered a moral being. Communists are incapable of reciprocating rights as they do not believe such things exist. We can thus conclude that communists being incapable of showing the characteristics of humanity are therefore for all intents and purposes not human and as such should be treated as dangerous primates to be exterminated.
Adrian Watson
I dont think you're aware of Zizek's works or even read the article for that matter.
And when I say read the article, I mean actually read it and not reject every single word out of some ideological spite for his position on the political spectrum.
Juan Powell
>white Nordic Quite clearly anglos, we win again!
Landon Cook
>implying that anybody any America is persecuted other than white men >while literally admitting there are laws designed to oppress only white men So this is the power of progressive narratives?
Joseph Lee
>"sniff" You should be ashamed for being white "pulls shirt" you fucking nazis "scratches nose" check your privilege "sniff"
Jordan Morales
I don’t think I’ve ever read a more tightly-packed collection of strawmans than this. BASED retard!
Nicholas Rogers
It's a spelling error as you clearly didn't mean to use the word payed, unless you truly are a simpleton.
Zachary Ramirez
>Angl*s >wh*te
Isaac Phillips
cringe and cuckpilled
Isaiah Perez
>communists are historically notorious for their lack of respect for property rights ...The entire ideology is about abolishing private property. Of course we don't have respect for 'property rights'.
That being said, no one's coming for your personal property. You can keep your toothbrush, senpai.
Sebastian Turner
Not to oppress, to redress the balance. You’ve taken for centuries, time to give back.
Austin Allen
>Daenerys as the Mad Queen is strictly a male fantasy >The view of Daenerys with mad-furious expression flying on a dragon and burning houses and people expresses patriarchal ideology with its fear of a strong political woman. >The one who remains (as the queen of the autonomous kingdom of the North) is Sansa, a type of women beloved by today’s capitalism Yikes. I guess this is why Danyfags are so delusional and angry about Game of Thrones. Its because they insert their real life political opinions into the TV show, and when their character loses, they take it as a personal attack on their identity.
Missandei dies? The white patriarchy is trying to get rid off the only black person on screen. Forget about the plot leading up to the character getting killed, this is an attack on our real life ethnicity. Daenerys dies? Fucking capitalist pigs, this is an attack on socialism and communism. The straight white male writers can't handle a strong female character. Random female character dies? The show hates women.
We've seen these comments time and time again on twitter and social media.
Jeremiah Perez
>And one cannot help but note that those faithful to Daenerys to the end are more diverse – her military commander is black – while the new rulers are clearly white Nordic. This a direct quote from your "titan".
Owen Sanders
Lol *paid
You made the same mistake as me bro, come at the king you better not miss
Xavier Campbell
I don't give a shit about muh racial purity, I'm not some goofy /pol/ack with a complex and a problem in his mind. It's white and I have a penis, that's enough for the democrats to be immensely hostile to me and thus I shall not be voting for him. Cry about it at your next campus die-in, queer.
Isaiah Carter
most people are very politically moderate and not racist, even minorities
i doubt much anything will change when america finally tips to 49% white, they won't establish a caliphate,there's too many mexicans for that.
Caleb Turner
So the NBA needs to fire half of their niggers, right? The NBA has a historical imbalance of niggers. Wouldn't you agree?
Carter Watson
Yes? What's wrong with it?
Henry Barnes
when democrats pay lipservice to browns and women it doesn't mean they hate you. it means they want the brown woman vote.
Daniel Carter
Yes. BOOM! Didn’t expect that answer, did you?
Owen Perry
What's right with it? The burden of proof is on you. We're all still waiting for your side to finally prove that "diversity is a good thing!".
Nolan Watson
/leftypol/ told me this guy was a redpilled leftist. Did I got memed?
Jacob Cox
>literally being a communist Why? If you have access to the internet you have access to history books. If you read about the history of the Soviet Union or China you see how it turns out. Hell, even North Korea is an example of what a communist government can do. Any totalitarian regime is shit tier.
As a Slovenian I can tell you that Žižek is more popular outside of Slovenian than here, most of his non English interviews are in Serbo-Croatian, Slovenian interviews are rare because we dont care about him
Lincoln Richardson
Zizek never claims "diversity is a good thing" in the article, he's merely pointing out the scenario as a point of interest.
Angel Martinez
When will you be losing your virginity?
Levi Cruz
Every time they use the word 'white' it comes out of their mouth like they're saying the word 'shit' or 'nigger'. There's practically a sneer to it, their fucking lips curl up. That alone would be enough to spook me away, let alone their hostility to gun rights. So no. Would never vote D under any circumstances, not until they get their fucking heads straight and stop sounding like Hitler talking about the 'insidious jews' every time the topic of white guys comes up.
Nicholas Anderson
>The radical queen who wanted more freedom for everyone irrespective of their social standing and race is eliminated, things are brought back to normal. The very next sentence.
Julian Lopez
to be fair, any deep philosophical reads of the D&D seasons probably dredge up ideas that weren't intended or considered in the writers room.
Evan Reyes
15 years ago. Is that your argument?
Elijah Wilson
>If you read about the history of the Soviet Union or China you see how it turns out As a global super power?
Caleb Myers
It's not interesting, it's propagandist.
Cooper Wright
>Every time they use the word 'white' it comes out of their mouth like they're saying the word 'shit' or 'nigger'. it's because the only time whites come up in political discourse it's to do with white guilt.
can you imagine if politicians brought up white people just to praise them?
that's way more like hitler than the dems
Dylan Thomas
I can't believe some of you here actually take this bloviating clown seriously. He's every bit as much of a hack as Peterson. Nothing he says is even particularly insightful.
Gabriel White
Who gives a fuck if your country is mighty if the average citizen's life is dogshit used to grease the machine? Egypt was a mighty and glorious power but I doubt the slaves building the pyramids took much solace in that.
Chase Diaz
Yes, he's condemning the scenario of Dany's descent into madness.
Here's a point from earlier in the article.
>The dissatisfaction turned on a couple of points: bad scenario (under the pressure to quickly end the series, the complexity of the narrative was simplified), bad psychology (Daenerys’ turn to “Mad Queen” was not justified by her character development), etc.
>One of the few intelligent voices in the debate was that of the author Stephen King who noted that dissatisfaction was not generated by the bad ending but the fact of the ending itself. In our epoch of series which in principle could go on indefinitely, the idea of narrative closure becomes intolerable.
How so?
Carson Price
Literally who
Lucas Flores
You will be losing your virginity 15 years ago? Bro, that doesn’t even make sense.
Ayden Robinson
>can you imagine if politicians brought up white people just to praise them?
What would the issue be?
Gavin Brooks
Life in the Soviet Union was far better than you think, senpai.
Mason Brooks
dilate
Oliver Rodriguez
>can you imagine if politicians brought up white people just to praise them? Why not? They bring up other races just to praise them all the time. It's only ever white people that get pilloried for winning too much or kicking ass too hard. Are you gonna sit there and tell me your ass doesn't clench whenever a politician brings up the word 'white' because you immediately know he's going to be laying a bunch of shit at our doorstep at the same time he's praising the fucking people we had the grace to allow into our country as perfect blameless angels?
Joshua Jenkins
>writing all of this for fucking GoT This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. Everyone fucking knows these writers are retarded. Why the fuck would you waste time writing this shit for them?
Anthony Robinson
stupid cunt watch his documentaries
Chase Rodriguez
>When your shit ideology fails so much that you have to resort to being a "critic" of a pleb tier show OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
Justin Lewis
>white people that get pilloried for winning too much or kicking ass too hard This is the cringiest fucking post I've seen in a while. Jesus Christ, the redditors really fucking did a number on this website.
Andrew Nguyen
Yeah I'm sure the gulags and state-sponsored famines were great, anyone who says otherwise is just a brainwashed capitalist pig.
Cameron Richardson
Because he gets paid?
Thomas Cook
Sure it fucking was. That's why they had to build a wall in Berlin to keep all the comrades from escaping into the decadent capitalist west. That's why Cubans brave eighty miles of shark infested waters on four treadless tires strapped together. That's why North Korea is North Korea.
There's never been a communist state that wasn't a complete fucking shithole and you know it.
Xavier Baker
You could also read about their atrocities commited against their own people, or the starving peasants or how well political opposition was tolerated and dealt with. Whole books have been filled about these topics. If you demand a system like communism in the west you are either retarded, a sadist or never bothered to read a history book about the topic.
It was in fact so great they had to build a wall with armed guards to prevent people from leaving said paradise in Eastern Germany.
Luke Smith
>(Daenerys’ turn to “Mad Queen” was not justified by her character development), So he didnt watch the series, or he thinks the "descent into madness" trope should only be reserved for male characters (like Daenerys' father).
white people don't need the narrative, they've never been slaves, they didn't get their land taken off of them and they've done well financially for all of recorded history
but seriously, white pride is irreparably linked to nazism, so the stigma is there
Camden Young
Communism genocided the proles. The libertarian revolution of 1776 actually uplifted the masses. That's why even retards like you can share words from the commodity of their home. Communism is utter failure and it's past time you retards realize it.
Matthew Fisher
>I'm cringing hard Wow, good argument. I'll be sure to vote for whichever white, self-hating politician the Democrats throw at me in 2020.
Owen Ramirez
>they've never been slaves *in the us, i should clarify
everyone was slaves back in antiquity
Colton Mitchell
>they didn't get their land taken off of them What is section 8? What are taxes? What are public schools?
>and they've done well financially for all of recorded history This is what reddit mutts actually believe.
Parker Murphy
fpbp, but all the same, Zizek is based
Lucas Jenkins
>white people don't need the narrative, they've never been slaves, they didn't get their land taken off of them and they've done well financially for all of recorded history
YIKES, imagine being this historically illiterate.
Kevin Garcia
I wonder when Americans' propensity for conspiracy theories will lead them to questioning the veracity of the American government's claims regarding Communism.
Lincoln Martinez
>his lacanian/Hegelian So he's a pseud. Nice.
Nathaniel Morales
>What is section 8? What are taxes? What are public schools? kek, pay your taxes, dirty freeloader
Josiah Price
Why is leftypol so angry? especially when their dumb ideologies get destroyed
Levi King
So Danyfags are commies and the Starkfag-clan ultimately won over the Marxist revolutionaries? Sansa, the most successsful woman, is traditional? DnD are truly patriarchal? Westeros is a White Nordic ethno-state?
it's almost a tradition at this point western authors forgot to start writing with the ending in mind first
Elijah White
You're right, they are still far away of a full on global free market.
Austin Edwards
>because he thinks capitalism and the psychodynamics of desire and an ontology of the subject are all intrinsically linked. holy shit, he's truly a retard then
these people totally ignore and deny evolutionary biological instincts and neuroscience. marxism is pseudoscience
Gabriel Davis
Holy fuck this is a fucking facebook-tier boomer image
Jayden Nguyen
I'm sure that Zizek only watched the last 6 episodes.
>white people don't need the narrative, they've never been slaves, they didn't get their land taken off of them and they've done well financially for all of recorded history You don't think minorities might not be as stupid and helpless as you think they are that they need constant headpats and cheek pinches to function? Furthermore, the issue isn't even that they politicans don't speak well of white men, it's that they invariable speak ill of them. The most generous, charitable political discourse on white men in the modern day holds that we're 'misguided'. The worst sounds like some shit from bizarro /pol/. Then goofy twenty something nitwits with sociology degrees wonder aloud in the pages of huffington post what's responsible for the rise of the alt right. It's a farce.
Noah Thompson
You're taking pure ideology.
Genocide is racial, The Soviet Union was proles killing proles on behalf of proles.
America didn't invent democracy, it's not the only liberal democracy and 1776 has little to do with modern libertarianism (which is apparently just no government)
I'm not advocating on behalf of communism, but they at least cared about the weak, whereas in today's US hellscape the weak are left to die with no safety net
Dylan Williams
Social justice people jumped on the hate bandwagon for all the wrong reasons. Cute.
Dylan Lewis
>marxism is pseudoscience Marxism isn't science, and neither is economics as a whole. It's a humanity.
Kevin Gomez
one and done
Leo Morgan
>but they at least cared about the weak but they didn't
>whereas in today's US hellscape How can you compare communism to the USA? The USA doesn't have anything close to a free market.
Dylan Garcia
how do people forget that GOD EMPEROR Napoleon who crowned himself and then went on to fuck half of Europe came to power right after the French revolution
Ayden Jones
It's because their dumb ideology always gets destroyed. That's the entire point of their ideology, trying not to get BTFO'D by establishing rules that favour their own ideology. >Everything I don't like is non-dialectical
Connor Sanders
Never. Conspiracy theories now a days only push a conservative bias instead of being anti government.
Andrew Martin
Have you ever turned down a women who wants sex? They immediately acuse you of cheating, or if its some slut at the bar they call you a fag. Women cannot hansle rejection, let alone sexual rejection
Landon Howard
The Berlin Wall isn't a conspiracy theory. Neither are Cuban boat people. Functional countries don't need to keep their citizens trapped within them at gunpoint, you stupid commie fuck.
Cameron James
*hufaggotry
Camden Sanders
>I'm not advocating on behalf of communism, but they at least cared about the weak
They cared for the weak by working them to death?
Jacob Foster
>t. assdamaged leftypol sperg that unironically uses the word bourgeois
Marxism claims to be scientific. It's not.
Jack Nguyen
That's some great anger you've got there towards a supposedly brutal system. Surely, this same anger will manifest itself when I present the entirety of the Capitalist third world?
Jayden Thompson
The american government didn't go far enough. Also McCarthy was based as fuck.
>Surely, this same anger will manifest itself when I present the entirety of the Capitalist third world? Genuinely curious, are there any capitalist countries that keep their people from escaping them at gunpoint? Sorry if I'm being non-dialectical comrade, all this degenerate capitalist wealth has really done a number my class consciousness. I'll do a public self-reflection later to make up for it, I promise.
>they need constant headpats and cheek pinches to function? I personally don't, but the underlying idea behind representation is symbolic. It empowers them, it seems cheesy and pandering to us whites because there was never a time that we couldn't be president, for example.
Austin Morris
>how many countries do we need to destabilize before you realize communism doesn't work?
There will always be poor people. Calm down, you're not fixing the world.
Luis Brown
I never forgot. I despise the French Revolution, and Napoleon BTFOing the country back into relevancy while keeping his heel firmly on the back of the Germans was an added bonus.
Aiden Baker
>Capitalist third world? Why are marxists such incredibly ignorant and stupid retards?
>the only reason socialism failed was because the USA sabotaged those countries What about the countless socialist failures that the USA wasn't involved in?
Why are you people so brainwashed?
Joseph Stewart
>The USA doesn't have anything close to a free market. Yeah, a true free market would be far, far worse.
Fuck me, all this time you were one of those racially masochistic goons begging to be made an example of? Do you really not see a problem in the way these people talk about you? Have some fucking pride.
The USSR was enacting destabilization and demoralization programs in the US literally since day one. This is a documented fact. Somehow the merciless capitalist system still didn't feel the need to imprison its own citizens within its borders.
Henry Rogers
Which one? The US tried to stop the USSR from the moment the revolution began.
Bentley Martinez
>bullets vs milkshakes
Michael Diaz
He's not strictly incorrect, but I think he gives D&D far too much credit. The article strikes me as over-analyzing a situation whereby the writers had to wrap things up too quickly in the only way they could.
I thought the ending was the inevitable result of failure to plan ahead in the story combined with a requirement to produce something which fits the modern TV motif. The needed to create a shocking event has been something which has plagued GoT ever since the red wedding, Daenerys' rampage always seemed like the logical conclusion to that. Their mistake was using a character which has taken on a different meaning to the public in comparison to the one which is represented in the show.
Charles Cox
oh fuck off, I usually agree with zizek but that doesn't mean he's right about everything - and he's wrong about Thrones.
This show has a litany of foundational problems post-book divergence (not because "it wasn't the books" per se, bt rather that what DABID came up with in lieu of GRRM's story, something Zizek probably would've enjoyed actually since it digs into revolutionary politics of the peasantry against the nobility pretty hardcore in AFFC but they axed that entire dimension from the show) - but "it's sexist because Dany is bad" is not one of them.
Daenerys has been established as a sanctimonious, self-important charismatic leader who's spent the whole series (books and show) building up a cult of personality around herself so seductive countless real life people fell into it. Anyone with an iota of brain power saw her "turn" coming years and years ago.
Aaron Perez
>Seriously. I'm from a slav country near Slovenia You're a Croat, I reckon. You need to understand, in Marxism there are revolutionaries and intellectuals.
Basically, Eastern Socialism is revolutionary, it was established through military power, like that of Josip Tito, who ruled the country where Žižek came from, half of his life-time.
Žižek on the other hand is a Western Socialist, they try to culturally subvert Capitalism until "true" Socialism can be established, even though they're mostly just bourgeois themselves.
Because he knows the difference between the two, he's trying to get back to actual, materialist Socialism, he is acceptable for most debates, even with right-wingers, as he doesn't try to denounce his opposition as "Fascist".
Mostly though, he achievs nothing and his thought seems a bit two-sided.
As right-wing person and bookfag, I would consider Daenerys rise to madness normal, considering that is inherent to her family line, considering she was obsessed with justice and murder already in the past, see her time with Khal Drogo, Quarth, Slaver's Bay and the Dothraki Khals.
Everything she achieved was because of her family name and her military, she is actually what you would call "a huge bourgeois" that wants to implement something that you would call "modern leftism".
Fucking semantics
Joseph Johnson
didn't you learn your lesson at vietnam you mutt?
Lucas Rogers
Yeah, only one of those are actually being used, tough guy.
Christopher Robinson
Most of the funding for fucking the revolution was coming from the United States.
Brandon Allen
>with the evocation of the insipid wisdom that the best rulers are those who do not want power. Of course this observation would trigger a closet Stalinist like Zizek.
Joshua Lewis
Socialism controlled like half the fucking world and they brought nothing but misery and poverty. They just all stagnated and collapsed in on themselves.
The USA didn't even have to intervene in most of these countries because they collapsed on their own. Please stop licking boots.
Mason Sanchez
>Do you really not see a problem in the way these people talk about you? I see it as the dumb hypocrisy that it is and ignore it. It's a superficial issue pushed by extremists and only allowed to continue due to white guilt. Plus my self-worth isn't tied to my race.
Jackson Campbell
>The USA didn't even have to intervene in most of these countries Did your history teacher tell you that?
Hunter Evans
You don’t need to use a gun if you keep them comfortable enough to be complicit. Americans still work harder and earn less than their more socialist EU counterparts.
There’s a gal between ideal and “being held at gun point” that we should try to shoot for.
Why would they? The US btfo the vietcong every single engagement and south vietnam only fell to the communists a good two years after US troops had already left.
Chase Allen
Are you people clowns? You're throwing milkshakes at people and this is the EXTENT of your violent assault? I mean, that's it? lmao
antifa communists regularly get their skulls stomped in on the street whenever they go against the right
lol communism collapsed on itself and is a dead ideology How does this make you feel? Please tell me.
Kevin Reyes
yeah it was the martians staging coups across latin america and middle east. don't forget it was US that funded the taliban and al qaeda too.
Christian Lee
>dude this system that is about getting rid of the elites in society is definitely the villain >i support getting fucked in the ass by corporations and ceos because they told me the other system was bad >surely im not being lied to about communism, and surely i'm not being spoonfed propaganda by only being shown the bad sides of communism, some of which were the result of interventionism
How am I wrong? The CIA intervened in plenty of socialist countries, but there were still a fuckton more they didn't touch and just collapsed on their own due to the nature of socialism. It just doesn't work, re-evaluate your life and move on.
Michael Stewart
Monopolies though, f.a.m. Very scary, and regional ones already exist even with protectionism.
Samuel Russell
Holy fuck is this really devolving in to Tankies vs Trumpies? I hope all of you morons are trolling desu
Blake Cox
>I see it as the dumb hypocrisy that it is and ignore it. Awful magnanimous of you, one might even say you're bearing a burden of some sort. I'll leave you to it though, I want nothing to do with those dumb envious cunts and don't see why anybody would. No interest in being fodder just to absolve myself of le sins of America. Fuck that.
Levi Fisher
99.99% of these people aren't political prisoners. You knew what his point was yet you decided to strawman him? Why?
William Gutierrez
>there were still a fuckton more they didn't touch and just collapsed on their own due to the nature of socialism. Literally every single Socialist country that has ever existed was in some way, shape or form undermined economically by the United States
Blake Evans
TRIPS OF TRUTH
Carter Bennett
>get defeated >n-no we btfo them >socialism at its height across first world and china is becoming a superpower >communism is dead
Jeremiah Rodriguez
All prisoners are political prisoners.
Austin Foster
I never said the USA didn't intervene in some countries you brainlet.
>>dude this system that is about getting rid of the elites in society How fucking retarded are you? EVERY SINGLE TIME socialism resulted in giving elites even MORE power It's literally giving them absolute power because they happen to call themselves the working class. Why do you like the taste of boots so much? Why? Please explain.
Jacob Richardson
The point is not analyzing things as they were planned to be by d&d but rather, how things turned out in the eyes of the viewer. (“What greater ideological analysis can we make here?”) Zizek is basically disappointed that everything turned to modern day status quo and dany being a walking sexual fantasy that got btfo.
I’ve noted how people turned 180 degrees and started worshipping dany after the last episode. There is some good indication that SOMETHING happened in the minds od people, that she is more palatable AFTER being turned into an archetype.
Minorities had it shitty for a long time, it's natural that they'd lash out and be resentful the first chance they get, and it's natural that empathetic pious douches would lash out on their behalf.
It'll blow over, relax, the only burden we hold is that it's happening in our lifetime.
Ayden Fisher
>antifa communists regularly get their skulls stomped in on the street whenever they go against the right If anyone seriously wanted to put you fucking dogs in your proper places, they would. This is Berlin, the capital of White People, getting torched to the ground by Communist chads. Get utterly BTFO'd forever.
Proof? Why when the ussr intervened in capitalist countries it didn't result in them failing?
>>socialism at its height across first world Is this a joke? Nobody wants actual socialism, social democracy maybe, but not socialism China isn't socialist, they're just a state corportist shithole. The USSR fell and marxism is a dead ideology. Please cry more.
Luke Murphy
>closet Lmao no he’s openly totalitarian
Julian Scott
>You don’t need to use a gun if you keep them comfortable enough to be complicit. Comfortable enough to be complicit works for me. I guess I'm just a dirty rotten conformist for not wanting to burn down capitalism for some foggy dream of what could be (that has never, ever, EVER worked). >Americans still work harder and earn less than their more socialist EU counterparts. They're also bearing the cost for the EU's defense for something like the last hundred years, on top of Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and much of South America when the USSR was funding communist revolutionaries in every country. With all that they still have on average more disposable income. Even then, it's not a comparable situation. It's probably not an exaggeration to say that if America became as passive as Europe is half the world would get gobbled up by the Chinese overnight, and see how far flogging your kinder society human rights shit gets you with them.
Isaiah Lopez
>because he thinks capitalism and the psychodynamics of desire and an ontology of the subject are all intrinsically linked. Which makes him even more of a Marxist.
His consciouss analasys of modern society and his hampfisted attempt at providing water-proof evidence for the scientific superiority of Marxism are two very different Things.
At the end of the day, he will not agree with a right-winger that shares the exact same views about modern society, just because he doesn't concede to "Marxist superiority". >basically a materialist atheist theologian Atheist and materialist thought derrive from the enlightenment and humanism, which in turn were started by church seperatists and liberal theologians. >he has more interesting things to say about Christ and God than most actual Christians alive today That says more about modern Christians than about him.
He merely reflects on Christian cannon and applies materialist analasy to everything that is said in the bible, which gets somewhat close a to a literary interpretation.
Modern Christians are mostly cucked by the fact that church authorities surrendered their cause to liberal agendas. Liberal, Marxist, materialist and atheist thought are inferior to Christian ethics and dogma and fundamentalism and tradition have largely been surpressed by secularization, which is what every single of these "cultural Christians" and "modern Christians" admits.
Slavoj remains a modern Marxist, influenced by Frankfurt school and slave to the system of thought that is emposed upon him.
He was talking about how their "evil capitalist prisoners" don't imprison people in their borders when they obviously do
>People like Chelsea Manning aren't political prisoners
Kayden Green
No I didn't.
Even marxists and socialists say China isn't real communism. Stop being a brainlet.
Caleb Green
Sansa schemes because that's what she had learnt from littlefinger and Cersei. Meanwhile Arya just goes to the vanguard and kills like she has learnt from her journey, the same goes for Yara. Stop being retarded.
>He was talking about how their "evil capitalist prisoners" don't imprison people in their borders when they obviously do No you shit eating retard He was talking about how capitalist countries allow for freedom of speech and don't lock people up for disagreeing with the government. Inb4 you post snowden or assange as if the exception proves the rule brainlet
>EVERY SINGLE TIME socialism resulted in giving elites even MORE power Why go full gommunism though? There's a middle ground between Koch boot and Stalin boot. It's called Social Democracy: Strong Labor Unions, Economic Protectionism, Social Liberalism.
The hard part is selling it to NO TAXES retards who hate to think that they might have to spend a cent on anyone else.
Kayden Powell
>What is politics >What is psychology Projecting much?
Im going to vote for Bernie in 2020 and there's literally nothing you can do to stop me.
Zachary Hernandez
>An American client state falls to USSR funded insurgents when the agreed upon armistice is violated a full two years after US troops withdraw >Communists trumpet this as the greatest victory communism has ever had A proud legacy honored to this day by such luminaries as Venezuela and North Korea.
Cooper Collins
It's funny that commie retards always act like they'll be officers enforcing the will of their dictator. You'll go to the gulag like the s o y boy you are.
Why are you even saying this? If you support socialism and/or these socialist countries, YOU SUPPORT LOCKING PEOPLE UP FOR THEIR POLITICAL VIEWS.
Why are you such a hypocrite?
Adam Perez
I went to a party in east Germany one time where we danced on the mass graves of red soldiers. The USSR is dead youtu.be/fgm14D1jHUw Enjoy the pizza.
Isaiah Garcia
I'm certainly not going to disagree. The rushed nature of the series seemed as if it did necessitate reducing everything to simplistic archetypes so as to keep things from becoming too complex.
My only real criticism is that I'm simultaneously not sure how much value an ideological analysis holds under those circumstances. Which is to say, I'm really not sure, not that I don't think it works.
Jaxon Stewart
>yeah it was the martians staging coups across latin america and middle east. A fucking communist is going to bitch to us about coups being staged in latin america? You know literally one hundred percent of the numerous communist guerilla movements were USSR planned and funded, right?
Austin Lee
cope
Henry Harris
I’m not advocating for full on communism, I’m just saying we can easily improve our current system by actually supporting workers. Sorry you’re an intense bootlick.
>They're also bearing the cost for the EU's defense for something like the last hundred years,
So I guess we can agree that America trying to be global police is a bad idea that really only benefits weapons manufacturers and the politicians they bribe.
Cooper Young
How do you refute the demographic trends shaping the west? I have never heard a leftist make a coherent fact based argument around the looming reality that in a long enough timeline those minorities are going to displace us
Nicholas Ramirez
if you didn't overthrow the popular govs there wouldn't be an insurgency you zionist slave
Brandon Jackson
I suggest you to go on a trip to South America and see for yourself what a mutt mayority does.
Carter Ortiz
Bullshit She was on the rag Fucking academics
Oliver Peterson
>your toothbrush That's "our toothbrush", comrade. Comrade, you are becoming delusional. Report to the infirmary for examination.
The German Jews had more wealth than the average Russian worker, was it wrong for Hitler to kill them? You will say, "of course 't'was".
Then you'll say "Hitler was a cuck who surrendered to industrialists and bourgeois!".
Then I'll ask "Is the morality of "physical removal" justified by the absence of so-called Capitalists?"
To which every Communist leader of that time would reply "Yes", while you will now try to cope with that. The Communists starved millions of underage virgins through their agricultural policy, so they were at fault.
Now, justifying that would basically make you pic related
>Minorities had it shitty for a long time, it's natural that they'd lash out and be resentful the first chance they get, and it's natural that empathetic pious douches would lash out on their behalf. And it's only natural that white people that had nothing to do with slavery would push back and defend their meager economic flesh from getting carved up just to satisfy their bloodlust. What's NOT natural is being white yet still choosing to stretch out your neck to be slashed, or worse, become one of their ramparts against other white people. For what? You think they're gonna let you slide after you help them strip away everything they want from other white people?
Adam Campbell
I don't give a shit about socialism I am pointing out that capitalists in america (at least the small hat ones) don't give a shit about free speech.
Giving people that slaughter children in villages for sport free money, free citizenship and a livelihood is factually socialism but I don't see dumb boomers complain about that.
Nicholas Lee
It's directly stated, retard.
Joshua Watson
>>People like Chelsea Manning aren't political prisoners Chelsea Manning literally gave classified military intelligence to a foreign operative. The people in Berlin were just trying to escape the USSR.
>build a fucking wall to keep their population from escaping >Sent people to gulags for dissenting with the party >THE FUCKING HOLODOMOR >FUCKING CHERNOBYL KYS COMMIE RETARD
Isaiah Wright
WE
Carson King
I'd be lying if I said I've never been concerned, but we've laid a good ideological groundwork (don't be racist) despite attempts to undermine it from the far right and left, and it's not like brown people are a singular hivemind, they all have different conflicting cultures and ideologies and the only real unifying factor is a belief in western cultural values like freedom and equality.
Mason James
>Half didn't even knew him >The other half calls him out for being a retard He sure trolled the board
Bentley Martinez
As bad as this sounds, America has protected a lot of people from themselves for a long ass time. Lets set aside policing the sea lanes or making sure first world countries are handling their conflicts the right way: the fact is western europe is so fucking dopey that if America hadn't been leaning on them hard during the Cold War they probably would have elected some dopey KGB asset to leadership and sank their entire country, thus blowing every investment the US had in it. This is pretty cynical realpolitik but it is what it is. Europe is ideologically tender.
Samuel Turner
>All this while you purposely starve your own population
Evan Foster
>they didn't get their land taken off of them WHAT IS ZIMBABWE AND SOUTH AFRICA
Isaac Butler
>socialists killing other socialists Oh my, I might just shed a tear.