They cucked themselves by doing this so early...

They cucked themselves by doing this so early. It was easily the peak of GoT and probably impossible to top as far as le ebin twists in television go...Pretty much every single "big" event in GoT after that felt like they are trying too hard to outdo the Red Wedding

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It was a cheap derivative knockoff of when they killed the Ned (the literal protagonist) in season 1 tho

but that wasn't a twist, it was something that was carefully planned from the start, every westeros plotline building to it. when you rewatch the series you can see every choice that lead to it. it was tragic because it became inevitable

euron 360-noscoping a dragon is a proper ebin twist

And ironically the final episode was as mundane as humanly possible.
>so he kills her then uh...
>They all sorta meet up
>they choose a new king
>uhhhhhh
>Unsullied are kinda mad so we all compromise
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>Arya's gonna sail west! ROIGHT MENTAL, INNIT?

Having plastic bottles of water at that meeting was a pretty good twist

You can call everything in season 7-8 a twist because it is so poorly written it's impossible to tell what is going to happen other than it will be a crude attempt at shock value to appease the brainless crowd watching this shit show.

It was still people driven then. 5 onwards it was event driven like Hardhome and such.

This. It turned into pure fan service later on

It's a clue\for a upcoming cross over with West World

i think the red wedding has mentally cucked a lot of writers out there, not the least of which being rian johnson. don't get me wrong: having shocking twists has been a thing for a long, looooong time already but it seems like these days everyone has to force
>muh subverted expectations
into EVERY fucking script. things can be great without huge ebin twists. case in point: the ending of lord of the rings

Red Wedding was not a twist. Walder Frey was already built up as the kind of person that would murder anyone who betrayed or disrespected him and Robb Stark got his punishment for chasing after foreign pussy. A better example of a twist would be Joffrey deciding to execute Ned Stark instead of exiling him. But even that made perfect sense since Joffrey was shown to be a petulant child that was capable of making such rash decisions and that one decision ended up having a rippling affect that plunged the continent into war.

Ten years from now the pendulum will be fully swung and the “anyone can die!” trope will be dead. Shows won’t get bonus points anymore for being “dark and gritty”.
Even Marvel keeps venturing into more lighthearted territory like with Ragnarok instead of ripping off the Nolan Batman films.
On the other hand, shows like The Walking Dead have proved that keeping a revolving cast can be very economical.

It still makes no sense though

>Be rob stark
>be called the true king of the north and successor to Ned
>Make political alliance to secure an heir and a stronger connection to important allies
>LOL Imma fuck this peasent bitch and screw the tentative alliance literally hanging on this marriage

The show was well written (mostly) up until season four but this set up was absolute bullshit

Smart guy here

Well, at least in the books he has the justification of being a literal teenager with his first case of puppy love.

Idk why people are always saying he was a good guy. He fucked everybody by marrying that random girl; and he still had the nerve to convince his uncle to marry one of the daughters. He also never mentioned going back on his promise that Arya would marry into the other family.

Wasn't it less about love in the books and more of honor thing (Talisa was a virgin)

He was also a dumbass kinslayer who killed the supporter who had 50% of his army

Wrong. In the books he was taken in and due to drugs/grief he slept with that lord's daughter (and they were serving the Lannisters). He felt guilty because he ruined their daughter after they had been so merciful that he did the right thing and married her even though he knew it was wrong and he broke his previous vows, which shows that he was Ned's son due to his adherence to his strict honor system. That honor system is what did him in, same with Ned.

Also it was implied that the Lannisters had planned this out to some degree.

He definitely wasn’t adhering to any kind of honor system when he debauched their daughter in the first place. And marrying her despite his previous vow is more of a grey area.
What did the books say about him promising Arya away?

>He definitely wasn’t adhering to any kind of honor system when he debauched their daughter in the first place
Did you read the books though? It was a moment of weakness brought about by his just finding out Bran/Rickon were (supposedly) murdered by Theon, his best friend, he was horribly injured and most importantly, he was drugged. It was a moment of weakness. If he were a woman it would be considered rape due to his being drugged.

And yes, he betrothed Arya but that's hardly a bad thing in their society.

The reddit wedding, more like

No, I think the real issue is how they treated the aftermath. And death in general. D&D treat death as an end to everything, a dead end, a shock value, that's why we didn't get Lady Stoneheart, forgetting that "What is dead may never die". They really don't believe that, think back to S6.
>Osha
>Ramsay killed her xD
>Rickon
>Ramsay killed him xD
>Roose Bolton and his family
>Ramsay killed them after Roose legitimized him xD
What the fuck was even the point of Ramsay waiting for Roose to legitimize him? He then killed him himself and forced everyone to tell it was poisoning, with the death D&D presented it would've made sense if we actually never saw Roose's death and had to take Ramsay on his words that he legitimized Ramsay after which he died to poison, it doesn't work if we know exactly what happened, it would've left air of mystery.

D&D don't know how to treat characters dying, they see it as the end, not part of the story that leads somewhere. Last time they treated death not as shitty was when surprisingly Euron killed Balon to ascend to power, that's a very primitive example but it actually mattered. Unlike Bariston Selmy's death.