Seriously. The Dothraki are savages and the Unsullied are extremely loyal to their queen

kek

based kekposter

Why didn't her dragon eat jon?

because that was more a symbolic part that made sense. Drogon was in anguish because his mother was dead, he probably knew Jon did it, but he destroyed the iron throne because that was what really drove his mother to death

Jon not having a 10 feet pole shoved up his ass by the Unsullied and Dothraki literally makes no sense however. They even made it clear under the negotiations that they want him fucking dead

An explanation that somewhat makes sense is they didn't want to incur the wrath of the Stark army+allies. Greyworm kinda just wanted to leave it seems but he also wanted revenge for his queen, in the end saving his men and leaving to Naath won out.

>he destroyed the iron throne because that was what really drove his mother to death

There's literally no reason why the dragon couldn't do that and kill jon. It's not like the dragon has a problem killing people.

The better question is how did they find out he killed her anyway?
To them, she was just gone suddenly.
He had to have told them himself, which would be pretty retarded.

He's a Targ, dummy

Dragons cannot hurt Targaryens. Drogon wanted to but it literally couldn't

dragons eat Targs all the time, retard. read Fire & Blood.

how long was he in that cell?

Theres stories of targs getting killed by dragons. And one even gets eaten by their own dragon, retards.

both are dummies hahaha dummy dummy haahhahaha

At the behest of other Targaryens giving the command

>episode is 90% comfy epilogue, instead of creating new unresolvable conflict

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Did anyone actually see Jon killing Dany,or did they just assume that?

>shock
nigger we’ve known exactly what was gonna happen for half a month now

Jon's egregious plot armor is the worst part of the show. Robb died for the smallest mistakes while Jon goes full retard constantly and never pays for it.

she has a fucking dagger in her chest dummy

Nasty ass Finns

Robb rejected that cutie Roslin Frey. That's more retarded than anything Jon ever did.

well in the books he was raped by a lannister plant.

>grey worm shown a few seconds ago showing no hesitation and no mercy against enemies of the queen
>lets keep the queenslayer and traitor alive though

god this was so fucking dumb

they never found out. the only people who speak dothraki are dead. they all think she flew away on drogon cause sust does that. thats why they are just waiting around kingslanding.

I don't see why loyalty necessarily has to extend beyond death
And the implication is that he realized how despotic daneries was
or atleast that is a plausible explanation

so he followed orders absolutely and then when he had to think for himself he did that

maybe Greyworm realized that if they killed Jon they would get annihilated by North men. Its not like the city was defendable

Dothraki stops being loyal to their khal when he days, that plays out multiple times during the series and greyworm didnt want to wage a suicide battle because he was angry and imprisoned Jon, that attitude was pretty decent and cold headed. Greyworm was never painted as some sort of hot headed maniac, he just follow orders. Having issues with Jon not being executed is the least defensible problem with the finale

This.

Jon was surrounded by her troops, who more than likely were the first to spot and capture him after he murdered their queen. No way they wouldn't murder him on the spot.

the dickless losers wouldn't do shit without being told to and the dothraki would sooner make him their new leader

Jon was killed....just sayian.

dragon literally took her body with him

why would he go to naath? foreigners get killed there by poisonous butterflies

How would they know? There are no security cameras

>Dothraki stops being loyal to their khal when he days
This
Only the Unsullied are mentioned in terms of wanting Jon dead or fighting the Northmen should them kill him. No mention of Dothrakis

>the moment they found out he killed her?

So Jon just admitted he did it? No one would know anything of the truth except Jon. All he had to say was "she's gone, with the dragon."

if he didn't care about daenerys at all then why insist there be justice about her death?

how did they find out ? there was no evidence...

They had no body

He was surrounded by Northern armies and lost their WMD dragon and leader, had all their ships decimated, and were walled in with a populace that hates them
Pay attention, it was perfectly rational for him to not murder the lords of royal houses of the surrounding hordes at that moment for no benefit

All Jon had to say was 'Your Queen has flown off with Drogon and left me in charge'.

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Fine, but why didn't they kill Tyrion then? He had no supporters or army behind him.

Let me guess - you think the age of consent should be lowered to 12 or abolished completely?

Kek actually thinking a Wyvern is that smart to rationalize. Wyvern are as smart as dogs.

>if he didn't care about daenerys at all
did i say that?
He's obviously conflicted

You seem to be overestimating Grey Worm's intelligence

Was anyone else expecting Jon to reveal his power level anytime during the episode “I AM AEGON TARGARYEN SON OF RHAEGAR AND LYANNA AND RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE IRON THRONE AND I COMMAND YOU TO STAND DOWN ETC ETC”

The finale felt like an hour long cockblock

How did they know Jon stabbed her, did drogon drop her as he flew away

>she ah went to the market to get some tobacco

>all Jon had to do was be smart

How was he even arrested? Did he turn himself in saying, oops I might have killed da kween? Put shackles on my wrists, foreign invading barbarians!

he can't lie anymore after being rezzed by mel

What show do you think this is?
What character do you think this is?
What year do you think this is?

>8 seasons of buildup and character development
>both night king and dany just die lol nobody cares
what a fucking shitshow

Hes a mindless soldier who follow order, thats why he didnt do anything, him act out of anger and vengeance goes completely against what the unsullied are, emotionless soldiers with no dicks who do what you say without hesitation

To be fair, greyworm never mentions the dothraki wanting revenge.
They were probably okay with the power they got so far, and without the dragons WMDs, they will slow down
The unsullied are the only ones who really care about dany, but they are all faggots anyway, hope they die

>Who is the President of Westeros?!

Because the "savages" turned into upstanding civilians that can live normal lives in westeros. Otherwise they wouldn't just ride past Jon while he was on his way to the boat to be deported.

>hope they die
they are literally sailing to the lands of ebola

No wonder there was bit of a time skip. They couldn't have a scene like that where Jon's apprehended and they decide to merely jail him. It would be embarrassing and unbelievable. So they simply skip over it.

Because DD couldn't come up with a way to show how everyone would've wanted Jons head and how to prevent it from happening, since half the Dothraki army still lives and easily outnumbered what was left of any other army.

subhuman enough to rape and pillage but honourable enough for fair trials

But the whole point of his character the last few episodes is they he wasn't acting rationally. Literally why would he care at this point?

hahahha XD

>Because the "savages" turned into upstanding civilians that can live normal lives in westeros.
why would you cuck yourself this hard with fantasies to get upset by?

>So they simply skip over it.

The M.O. of the last two seasons.

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Conflicted? You probably meant to say poorly written and inconsistent.

>north stays independed
>King bran is okay with it
>impling the Iron Isles and Dorne won't seceed right after it
>let alone the problems an elective monarchy can bring trough bribes
All the shit did was create the potential for way more conflict then there was before.

what makes you think the dothraki would want vengeance?
regicide is a normal part of their culture

My theory is in the books Barristan will kill her. But D&D wanted a tragic romance angle, which is why they killed Barry off early.

>Have 2 prisoners
>Have military control over the city
>Want justice
>First prisoner convinces everyone else to elect a shit king
>King pardons prisoner
>Practically pardons the second prisoner as well
This shit was fucking horrendous, The unsullied and Dothraki should have razed that city to the ground the second they knew Dany was dead, and of course, they do a time skip because thhese hack writers couldn't bother to show how they even know she's dead since the dragon took her body away.

Sansa needs to be Queen. She's the smrteest womyn in the whole seven kingdoms now after all that rape.

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user, it's literally what happens in the show. The Dorthaki should've either burned the remaining rest of KL to the ground and kill Jon and everyone else around or boww down before Jon as their new Kahl and defend him to the death. Yet you only see them one more time which is after the "election" when Jon gets escorted to the boat to the wall, when the Dorthaki just ride around the city in the background as if it's their normal life. Dumb and dumber compeltly forgot who they are or how the react once a Kahl dies.

unresolved short term interpersonal conflict i mean, that matters to the story, not the blatant reality that conflict and stories in any world which hasn't ended are inevitably ongoing.

Pay attention, smoothbrain
Nobody who’s paid any attention whatsoever to Dothraki succession customs or Grey Worm’s characterization has trouble grasping why Jon - a lord of the armies surrounding King’s Landing and also the new rightful Khal - would be murdered on the spot in some autistic tantrum
You are the reason showrunners feel the need to spell everything out for viewers - you are actively making television worse

Danys bloodriders would want vengance. That's the reason for their existance. Tough I don't knwo if there were any even left, since all you know is that half of her Dothraki army somehow survived Winterfell.

>Jon and Davos run into Grey Worm slaughtering the remaining Lannister men
>Davos tells him to go to the queen
>he does
>Grey Worm has enough time to finish slaughtering the other men AND still reaches the top of the stairs leading to the queen before Jon
What did D&D mean by this?

>Dothraki are upstanding civilians that can live normal lives in westeros because they feature as background extras in one scene in kingslanding

He did literally nothing but follow orders the last few episodes. You can’t say he was acting irrationally when he made zero of his own decisions. He was angry, sure - but he’s never been the sort to throw tantrums. He’s a highly disciplined castrato, he’s not going to sperg out and get all of his men killed

jesus fuck this is fucking brilliant, I wouldve unironically loved it if Drogon wouldve just started speaking like that.

Hey there's already been dumber shit in this show, at least this one had a theme.

But him and his super soldiers are literally death machines who just lost everything that matters to them. Why wouldn't they die doing exactly what they know and what they're extremely good at? They would have taken a lot of northeners with them

Lmao if you actually think this. Martin gave the showrunners copious notes, their ending is the same as his. Wait and see

>The Dothraki are savages and the Unsullied are extremely loyal to their queen
This.I could maybe understanded the unsullied because they have super discipline but the Dothraki would wanna kill jon immediately.

>Nobody who’s paid any attention whatsoever to Dothraki succession customs or Grey Worm’s characterization has trouble grasping why Jon - a lord of the armies surrounding King’s Landing and also the new rightful Khal - would be murdered on the spot in some autistic tantrum
Except of course everyone who did pay attention and didn't only trry to quickly read up on the wiki how they're supposed to act and compeltly missed the point of it. Thanks to wikifags like you they keep shit like that opout, since your peay sized brains wouldn't be able to process it properly. You fucktards are the reason qwhy DD can pull shit like this and get away with it.

>Danys bloodriders would want vengance. That's the reason for their existance.
did you just pull that out of your ass?
I seem to remember them routinely having their leaders killed and getting over it immediately

Yeah because the Unsullied and Dothraki seemed to REALLY fear the northern armies when they were ready to fight to the death at the beginning of the episode to kill 5 prisoners.

You are the reason showrunners feel like they can get away with this shit because cocksuckers like you will do their writing for them and justify their shit decisions

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Yes smoothbarin, does they really need to spell it out for you after alrady showing it? I wtough "show, don't tell" was the mantra, but seeing how you're unable to grasp something so simple I can't fault them for needing to spell every shitty thing out for you. Retards like you are the reason why tv gets worse and worse.

Unsullied and dothraki doing anything besides dying is already forgiving the show for multiplying their number every time the camera pans do them. What are you asking is extremely unreasonable. I just accept the number depiction because fuck it, but as it was show previously, the number of remaining unsullied, who are dying by the thousands since like the golden harpy stuff, remains somewhat of an influential force to demand and do anything.

They needed more time.

But diddn't Dany declare everyone her bloodriders? They are basically oathbound to avenge her.

>why DD can pull shit like this and get away with it.

do you want the dothraki and unsullied to execute d and d too lmao

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Its a mythical creature, you don't know how smart it is.

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>he didn't read the books
>didn't watch the show
>didn't even look up the wiki
Good to know that retards like you are still here.

Because he only really cared and had feelings for missandrei
He got his revenge on the lannisters

When the queen died he saw no point in continue killing because he had no queen left to kill for

He did tho know he had promised misandrei to protect the people from her homeland and that was hes new purpose

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>gets utterly btfo
>moves goalpost at incredibly high speeds
not even suprised.

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Two shit decisions in a row doesn't cancel them out
If you're gonna insist that the Dothraki and Unsullied are numerous, bloodthristy, and extremely loyal to Dany in eps 5 & 6 then you don't get to handwave that all away in the next 5 minutes

there was a pool of blood

>Make jon their leader imediately*
Fixed it for you

Anyone have the gay bar reaction to the final episode? I'm guessing the tears were delicious

Are you stupid?

BTU THE ENDING WAS BAD BAD BAD BAD bAaAad!!!! Yea Forums TOLD ME TO HATE IT YOU NIGGER FAGGOT

Are you retarded or just pretending?

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Remember when Bran said he was "going away now" and warged into crows to fly around the Night King FOR NO FUCKING REASON.

Awesome writing.

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This is extremely childish and reductive. The reason they didn’t decide to get themselves killed murdering non-culpable soldiers for no reason is because only an autist would do that. Hell, even most autists wouldn’t

Lmao that would be great. If he then gets to see Jamie again it would be the best exchange ever.

You didn't even get to see how people reacted to her dying, dude what the fuck

youtube.com/watch?v=YKqcAXBAZWE&feature=youtu.be

when does that happen in the show

i don't give a single fuck about book or lore autists

Targaryan time of the month.

Did you have a stroke when you were barfing our this vacuous post completely devoid of any substantive content for me to respond to - or do you always type this badly?

He went into spectator mode to get a cool aerial view of the battle, better than chatting with a cockless retard.

Yeah but Jon's honor-retarded

>You killed our Khaeelsi and emancipator
>But its cool as long as you go to the wall afterwards

>I have no counter argument, I just call him stupid

>Retards like you are the reason why tv gets worse and worse.

do you even watch good tv?
My Brilliant Friend, Atlanta, Chernobyl, Documentary Now!, Barry, Succession, etc?

This was a big improvement from the first draft. Original they all just crumbled and disappeared when she died

>Also the other guy our queen arrested for betraying her gets to pick the new King
>Also that king can pardon our prisoner

kek

He was an effective bargaining chip

I'm surprised the Unsullied didn't all just commit ritual suicide by stabbing themselves with their own spears after hearing their queen died.

>dies of butterfly disease.
cool.

Proof they kill?

All I read is you get a weird fever

They are loyal until she is alive. The Dothraki literally dont give a shit about their leader once he dies. What should have happened with them is that they should broke a internal fight about whos the new leader and all the clans who were unified by Daenerys would reorganize or some shit, anyway too much trouble for the show to handle clearly. But they going into a mindless killing suicide just because muh queen died is retarded and would be ever worst to what we got. They liked Danny because she was metal as fuck and fucked up people, not because of her ideals or some shit. The unsullied on the other hand cant make a decision by themselves even if their life depended on it, thats their whole point, greyworm was the only one who grew some sort of independence, and him being trained to be an emotionless soldier since birth would be able to control his anger and not sperg out and get everyone killed like some stupid teenager, he protected the lives of his man, what a commander should do, and sailed to naah to fulfill the promise he made to missandei. The ending is crap but is not because of this action for sure

You’re perfectly right to make these fools seem as childish as they’re behaving, but attentive posters should note that TruChanners regard ‘The Iron Throne’ as pure, magnificent Kino and it’s in fact mostly redditors and Twitter bluechecks who are seething angry tears over the perfectly fitting and inarguably poetic finale

>good tv
No mention of Fargo or rectify

I think part of the reason for this is to highlight how absurd Westerosi noble's ethics and morals around revenge and loyalty and honour are. You know, all the shit that's been driving the story until the point.

So these guys from across the ocean are confronted with one of the most heinous and sudden deaths of their leader and they just kind of get over it and act in their own self interest for the future.

I liked that. It's not to say even that the Westerosi way is wrong either. Just not necessarily the only and inevitable way to behave. As people ITT are implying it should be.

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Merely a short list of many friend. Rectify is one of my all time favourite shows though. Fargo... eh.

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god it's so forced. They should've had some balls and just had jon killed.

So do the free cities fall back to slavery once again because Dany can't plan 5 minutes ahead?

>Atlanta
>Barry
>“””Good TV”””
Jesus user...

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Yeah I think you're basically right.

That's not how the horse niggers work. You kill the boss you become the boss.

Besides, the last thing she did was appoint Grey Worm master of war and tell them to "liberate" the world.

so by your logic, Seinfeld and Curb aren't good either?

>Berg

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>Seriously. The Dothraki are savages and the Unsullied are extremely loyal to their queen
>Why didn't they flay and quarter Jon alive the moment they found out he killed her?
The Northmen were there, and Vary's letters had already been sent to call all the other lords.

>Romeo didn't check Juliet's pulse before killing himself

What shitty writing. Fucking 2/10.

Why was it all so dull and anticlimactic?

Her death should have felt like a punch in the stomach but instead I felt nothing

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>Northmen were there
Would have been cut down just as easily as the Lannisters when th Dothraki first arrived in Westeros

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Jerry Seinfeld is hilariously redpilled and Larry David dunked on trans people in the most recent season. Link to either of them ever doing this sort of pozzed pro-tranny virtue signaling?

>Fargo eh
You take that back you tasteless mongrel, Fargo is absolute kino and coen brothers are a gift to comedy. Noah Hawley is pretty good too, legion is great

didn't think the dothraki were much for strategizing.

Yea I liked how it ended, the irony is that the wheel was broken when Jon killed Dany, and thus freed the world from inevitable future wars.

Because you spoiled it for yourself weeks in advance (don’t bother pretending you didn’t) and watched it without friends after spending the days leading up to it moaning online about how much you planned to dislike it. This isn’t difficult

They didn't want to anger the north

Based Paarthurnax

Because deep down you knew she deserved it, and that was conflicting with your admiration for the character, thus cancelling each other out and feeling nothing.

>tfw watching it and realizing once Tyrion throws his pin that the spoilers were accurate

But them being completely fine with the family of the people who killed their queen taking charge and letting him get off basically scott free is even less fitting. You're defending fanfiction levels of writing

He could've just said she fucked off with her Dragon after burning the throne (breaking the wheel).

Hell he even could've just not said a fucking thing and get the fuck out of KL. There was no one around.

>Would have been cut down just as easily as the Lannisters when th Dothraki first arrived in Westeros
>didn't think the dothraki were much for strategizing.
It's all up to Greyworm. So yeah D&D chose to just leave it out, but there are good reasons for him to choose not to but rather hold them hostage.

He used it to get ships to go some fucking place for some reason, but I forgot why.

90% of this thread just got BTFO

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I have watched all GoT episodes alone and I've cried like a bitch before.

I literally uninstalled Twitter from my smartphone last night so I wouldn't accidentally spoil it during the day. I had seen nothing of the episode until I got home from work.

Of course she deserved it, which is why I was expecting it to happen!
They telegraphed it, just like with the Night King. It was not a surprise at all

I was actually telling myself they will not do the expected thing (kill her) instead do something weird like killing the Dragon to take away her strength. But no.

Alec Berg wrote on seinfeld and directed on curb and was an executive producer

You could probably nitpick tweets or statements from literally anyone to get triggered over.

Why'd he even admit to killing her?

"Bitch jumped on drogon, burnt the shit out of the throne, said something about returning video tapes and then took off!"

How would anyone know he killed her unless he told them?

Everything about this episode was alright until after Jon stabbed Dany. Then all logic just flew right out the fuckin window.

because they knew she deserved it

Because it was preceded by 15 minutes of people discussing with Jon about what a good idea it would be for him to kill Danaerys. The first half of the episode was just telegraphing exactly what was going to happen.

Why do you think they had a timeskip? It wasn't to move the plot along, it was because they had no reasonable explanation for how things would go from point A to point B so they just didn't fucking explain it and said "Now this is happening. Accept it without question."

They literally dont give a shit, thats the reason, they dont cara about justice, for them Daenerys was weak because she was killed, thats their whole culture, they didnt give two shits when khal drogo died poisoned by that witch, it was Danny that wanted to kill her. As I said, they would broke an internal fight and the clans would problem come back, but no way they would demand anything, their actions are literally well guys party is over I guess, because thats what they were doing since season 1, dont give two shits about justice, loyalty to a dead leader or vengeance

After how fucked the entire show was by this point, this would have actually improved it.

Season 8 made it easier to say goodbye to this show.

Imagine if it had been as good as the first seasons? I'd be heartbroken that it ended

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Really? There’s was literally no impact of him being resurrected

He wasn't hungry.

Let me just say punished Jon looks sexy as hell.

GUYS IT'S OVER
START ENJOYING YOUR LIVES AGAIN

You're making shit up, Grey worm literally said that they demand justice, if they really didn't give a shit they wouldn't have kept Jon and Tyrion prisoners for weeks until all the Lords arrived. Plus you're ignoring the whole "bloodriders" thing.
Your reasoning is something that never crossed D&D's mind, they just wrote this garbage because it was convenient.

When Jon Snow walked beyond the wall I thought "yeah if this guy becomes the new night king he'll definitely want to murder all of humanity next time around"

They just sacked the city. Could be from anyone.

mfw

I never understood the "Sansa so smart" thing. One example that pisses me off is when they're making armor at winterfell and she asks why they're not adding leather because its cold as fuck and everyone around her rushes around like idiots to fix it. You're telling me a 17 year old knows more than old men who lived through the last winter, experienced armorers or basically anyone there whose had to wear metal armor in anything below 50 degree weather? At least littlefinger showed he could be cunning among cunning people but Sansa is literally Queen of the retards and thats the only way she can look smart

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He was completely alone he could've cleaned that shit easily.

D&D aren't smart enough to write an actual smart character and George didn't want to help them this time around, so they just have all the other characters act dumbed down in any scene she's in so they can pretend she's smart.

But that's fun feeling hearbroken...

I know like from Breaking Bad
I was emotionally exhausted

So good

Bran's arc half the whole series was becoming the 3 eyed raven and didnt do shit with his powers except watch his sister get raped. And in the end, he becomes king. I don't know wether to love him or hate him

cringe

Remember how D&D had no fucking idea what they wanted to do with bran so he didn't make a single appearance all fucking season in s5.
And then they decide to make him king lol. Fuck these hacks

Yes you are right, but to do anything other than what was done they would need at least 3 extra episodes and killing Jon would be even more stupid and retarded of a act, would make absolute no sense, the reason behind it would be, greyworm was angry and mad so he sperged out like an autist, stupid coming from a seasoned emotionless mercenary commander and doesnt fit the character

>B-but they would've needed more episodes
Yeah, no shit they needed a whole extra season for this dogshit pacing, that's a good thing and I didn't say they should kill Jon on the spot, just your retarded argument of "they don't care" is contradictory to what we are shown on screen. Stop moving goalposts
>Greyworm is emotionless
This has not been the case for several seasons now speedwatcher.

I can pretty much guarantee Berg wasn’t posturing as a trans ally at the time he was writing for Seinfeld or early Curb. Last few seasons of Curb have been pretty week though, maybe coincides with around the time he got so pozzed