>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
Bran is literally professor X and sees everything. He can see the outcome of every decision that can be made before actually picking one.
Adam Brooks
What is Sansa's tax policy? The north was starving as she herself said and not she cut ties with the southern breadbaskets. Is she going to have to increase taxes to pay for food? That seems like a worse scenario for the north than staying in the seven kingdoms.
Juan Wright
>and then King Bran I "the Broken" ruled wisely and well forever and ever and everyone in the Six kingdoms lived happily every after. The End. >By George RR Martian
Oliver Diaz
But he'd rather fuck off looking at Wheelchairs from history and finding out what wayward Dragons are up to.
Jaxon Walker
that wasn't George's ending, that was DABID's ending.
Joshua Morgan
He only told jon about his parentage to fuck up his relationship to dany, so she would burn kings landing, so he could be king. And nobody cared
Jackson Carter
He's the King the 7 Kingdoms deserve.
Eli Sullivan
no
Julian Jenkins
It the only ending there's going to be. The books aren't going to be finished.
Isaac Flores
>God himself became king Dabid shit on any kind of point Martins try to make
Andrew Perez
*6* kingdoms
Soon to be 2 when Dorne, Riverlands, Vale, and Iron Islands fuck off and want Independence like the North.
Julian Peterson
that very well might be the case, but it still isn't George's ending.
Michael Stewart
Just look at his nose and you'll know
Sebastian Morris
>Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
>George Martin ... a DNA test on the show confirmed his Irish and other ancestries but excluded any Italian ancestry, showing instead he is approximately a quarter Ashkenazi Jewish.[11]
>Growing up, Martin avoided the draft to the Vietnam War by being a conscientious objector and did two years of alternative service. He generally opposes war and thought the Vietnam War was a "terrible mistake for America". He also opposes the idea of the glory of war and tries to realistically describe war in his books.[119]
>On November 20, 2015, writing on his LiveJournal blog, Martin advocated for allowing Syrian refugees into the United States.[122]
Dude fuck you. The six kingdoms do not respect the autonomy and the toil of the north. Everything is run by a cabal of shady bureaucrats. Would you really do that again just for a little bit of 'green arrow go up'?
Jeremiah Barnes
>autistic nit-picking >having a point pick one
Brandon Lee
>He also opposes the idea of the glory of war and tries to realistically describe war in his books. Meanwhile Tolkien actually fought in a war and actually avoided depicting war as glorious by minimizing the amount of pages dedicated to battles and having the ending be about ptsd and the scars of war never truly leaving.
Liam Howard
It's not over since he hasn't finished the books and didn't write the show. Regardless there's nothing wrong with wanting to write a more realistic fantasy story. I think he might be missing the point of LOTR a little there but people using this as a meme to shit on Martin are equally dumb. Disliking a few things about Lord if the Rings doesn't make you a shit writer. There are plenty of other reasons GRRM is shit.
Ryan Allen
The whole 6 Kingdomes are being run by a Northman and the "rightful" king of the North. The North would be the most respected out of the 7 Kingdom had they stayed in the fold.
Joshua Cox
I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall, but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless — while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governors — like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow — but it would have been just that. Not worth doing.
>and thought the Vietnam War was a "terrible mistake for America" It was, we fucking lost.
Luis Gray
North got Thanos'd by white walkers, so it has enough food.
Anthony Wilson
what's your having sex policy?
Liam Sanders
>Tolkien is to creative literary genius what Martin is to hack pulp idiocy. They both so far surpass anyone else in their field that they will be remembered 1,000 years from now as a kind of yin and yang of fantasy, a Manichaen duality of speculative letters. For every sublime, luminous beauty that Tolkien has gifted the world, Martin has cursed us with a tedious, banal ugliness. It is unfair to compare the two directly on any one point, because Martin is in every way the anti-Tolkien, patently sterile, parasitical, and inferior, but so much so that he becomes a monument in his own right, and counterbalances Tolkien. Could one exist without the other? Tolkien obviously could. But it is only by the contrast that Martin offers that we can truly appreciate the full depths and heights of Tolkien. Our understanding of Tolkien would be incomplete if Martin had never set pen to page. It is through only the abject failure and futility of Martin that we can approach an apprehension of the true scope and scale of Tolkien's hitherto inconceivable greatness. Perhaps this is what Tolkien had in mind when he wrote about the Music of the Ainur. If Tolkien is a subcreator in the image of Eru, truly Martin is like unto Melkor. It is only reflected in the awfulness of the one that we can fully see the goodness of the other.
Colton Davis
Yeah I was just joking about modern politics. My own viewpoint irrelevant. But anyway the show is stupid and not worth analysing; it's time to forget it all.
Aiden Sanders
Language is hard. This was maybe my answer to Martin, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. A Song of Ice and Fire had a very modern philosophy: that if the king was a good man, he would get his dick chopped off. We look at history and it’s not that simple. Martin can say that Bran became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Martin doesn’t ask the question: How was high Valyrian conjugated? Does the pluperfect tense of bravosi derive from the suffix? How did dragons understand the verb, “dracarys”? And what about all those lost westerosi languages? By the end of the war, the night king is gone but all of the autists aren’t gone – they’re in the Godswood, watching beautiful sisters be beautifully raped. Did Bran pursue a policy of monolingualism and kill all other languages? Even the little baby dialects in their little dialect regions?
Gabriel Hall
Bran the Hooknose
Landon Hill
>fantasy novel >worried over practical concerns and minor loose ends
George RR Martin is a terrible hack that has horrible, tedious prose filled with tons of unnecessary junk. Tolkien is not a fabulous writer but at least he doesn't labor over silly, dry details like some 'realist' shit victorian novel writer
Parker Mitchell
>tedious prose What prose? His stuff reads like a screenplay.
Wyatt Ortiz
>while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. W-what did he mean by this?
Carter Sullivan
It's foul and anti-literature
Jose Stewart
Agreed, but I wouldn't say it has tedious prose. It has no prose.
Julian Adams
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Martin, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Robert's Rebellion had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Martin can say that Robert became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Martin doesn’t ask the question: What was Robert’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these Targaryens? By the end of the war, Aerys is gone but all of the Targaryens aren’t gone – they’re in Dragonstone. Did Robert pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby Targaryens, in their little Targaryen cradles?
Hunter Harris
Sounds like a cool guy
Camden Jones
lol at this hack who thinks he's anywhere near Tolkien's level.
Values added tax calculated by Bran tracking the evolution of raw materials from the start of creation to its current state
Mason Scott
Fair enough
Owen Wright
If democracy is the answer, why is he bitching about Trump?
Cameron Ramirez
I mean he obviously gave the orcs a choice of peaceful cooexistence or war, and being orcs they chose war. They lose, and Aragorn seals up the pits where they came and stops whatever abominable process breeds them
Jack Hughes
The books are already finished.
They have the same end.
Everybody's going to hate it. that's why GRRM cashed in with a show deal before publishing.
Thomas Bailey
Because part of democracy includes advocating for your position strongly
Jack Brown
The ending could be fine if the setup makes more sense
Hunter Price
>Meanwhile Tolkien actually fought in a war not just “a war”, Tolkien was at the fucking Somme one of the most gruesome battles of recorded history and Tolkien was fighting there for four fucking months
i’ll take Tolkien’s opinion on things over some draft dodging fat fuck boomer with a diarrhea fetish thank you very much furthermore The Sand Kings was the worst outer limits episode ever and Martin is an edgy try hard faggot on paper to compensate for his huge slugbody which has no edges whatsoever and has never tried anything hard in its entire existence with the possible exception of squeezing out turds from his corpulent belly through a colon which will no doubt look like a series of raw pigs-in-a-blanket at his bariatric autopsy which based on his BMI will probably happen sooner rather than later but still won’t happen soon enough. fuck you George you giant bearded blueberry of a man
Adam Jackson
> excluded any Italian ancestry, showing instead he is approximately a quarter Ashkenazi Jewish.[11]
