/RBMK/ Chernobyl - New episode tomorrow edition

AGE CHECK.

You must be a boomer to post ITT. 89 here

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That's extremely degenerate. But I allow it, because this is how things are nowadays.

The one who makes these please make one where Core-chan is embarassed of her monstrous elephant foot

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I take it you'd be in your room anyway.

Is Jared Harris the king of Yea Forums?

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The air is glowing you delusional fucking idiots

91

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1984, zoomers out

it already exists, but i didn't save it because it was made to repel footfags like me

>redditor facebooker comes to 4channel to act edgy but at the same time tries to act cute with words like "comfy" and silly pepe pics
You sound so retarded.

'87 here
was born in north america though so far away from it

1996

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that would be Jim Carrey

>ELEPHANT FOOT

At the time of its discovery, radioactivity near the Elephant’s Foot was approximately 10000 roentgens, or 100 grays per hour, delivering a 50/50 lethal dose of radiation (4.5 grays)[6] in less than three minutes.[7] Since that time the radiation intensity has declined enough that, in 1996, the Elephant's Foot was visited by the Deputy Director of the New Confinement Project, Artur Kornayev,[a] who took photographs using an automatic camera and a flashlight to illuminate the otherwise dark room.[9]

The Elephant's Foot had penetrated through at least 2 m (6 ft 7 in) of concrete to get to its current location.[2] There were fears that it may continue to penetrate deeper into the ground and come into contact with groundwater, contaminating the area's drinking water and leading to illnesses and deaths[10]; however, as of 2019, the mass has not moved significantly since its discovery and is estimated to be only slightly warmer than its environment due to heat from the ongoing nuclear decay.[9]

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That's a funny way of spelling Armond White.

This is fact.

Go to bed murrlogic.

IT IS STILL BURNING TO THIS DAY

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Report to atheism class 05:00, comrade.

I would recommend the game Atom RPG for anyone looking for more late soviet nuclear disaster aesthetics

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Which snapchat filter is this?

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>what's her cup size?
>The measurements read B, sir, but that's as low as our devices go
>B. Not great, but not terrible. I need you to start pumping milk.
>We've activated the pump, sir. But... there's no milkies. She's flat.
>You're delusional. How can a woman be flat?

I hope the teacher is a cutie.

user, it will be burning for thousands of years.

I was right about mentalgash being the art fag in these threads waifuing the core like the incel loser xhe is. Damn I'm good.

Ms. Nihilistov is 67.

its kind of a shitshow for the wecterners.
>you want more Lenin with that da?

How come that faggot isn't dead!? Professor Lagasov said the bullets are going to penetrate flesh for 50 000 years. Did he lie to general secretary Gorbachev?

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I hadn't found out about the Chernobyl show 'til today, I've yet to draw anything about it.

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All of /trek/ is here, Sherlock.

Jared and Mads Mikkelsen are the kings of kino

what are some other late-soviet era atmosphere kinos?

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>leave Radiation to me

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Don't talk shit about my boy Derek

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bs and poorly done bs at that

No wonder it's so cringe, lame and gay

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WHENS THE EPISODE

The Americans is 80s aesthetics about soviets but it mostly takes place in Murica. And I dropped it after they did something really mean to best girl in season 3 or whenever.

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That's a lie you just want to be contrarian to the fact that I am that damn good.

Cargo 200.

There's graphite on the ground...groundphite.

>i dropped it because they killed my waifu
waifufags are pathetic irredeemable plebs

MONDAY

why are there so many retards and autists raging in these threads about the existence of these threads

Chuck's fuckwater.

>2 threads again
you assholes

This perhaps isn't what you're looking for exactly... but check the below.

>The Irony of Fate (1)
youtube.com/watch?v=lVpmZnRIMKs

>The Irony of Fate (2)
youtube.com/watch?v=5TmGPeowN-0

>Office Romance (1)
youtube.com/watch?v=hR-1QGMK75c

>Office Romance (2)
youtube.com/watch?v=kUNy3NrxZAc

>Operation Y and Shurik's Other Adventures
youtube.com/watch?v=F68bbzOOOdY

>Kidnapping, Caucasian Style
youtube.com/watch?v=PmaZ0SlyZ9E

>Ivan Vasilievich Changes Professions
youtube.com/watch?v=m3xVdxDWFWU

>Mocфильм
youtube.com/channel/UCEK3tT7DcfWGWJpNEDBdWog

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85 my dude

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85 and my parents were out with me in the may day parade here in eastern europe...

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Hate fuels the loveless

where do we go once this show ends bros?
"season 2" of The Terror is still so far away

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they also showed my hometown but it was clearly some fucking California shithole and that triggered me too. Them being really mean to best girl was just the last straw.

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>Khodemchuk's death

Either be crushed or die from radiation or both. Fuck me.

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no, no and no. NEXT

You're a nice good user, I know, but I've been busy drawing Gardevoirs for a Pokemon TF set.

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>they show Lagasov's suicide at beginning of episode one

who else didn't get that scene AT ALL

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>two street artists arrive at the same wall and they both want to put up a mural
>one street artist name was "RAD8TION" the other was "ATOMIK"
>THEY GOT INTO A DEADLY GRAPH FIGHT

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soundcloud.com/thechernobylpodcast

This is amazing.

Holy fuck I just read a 100 pages analysis of the RBMK design.
Now I understand why physicists think Dyatlov was just a scapegoat and wasn't responsible.

The reactor design was made in such a way that it would have blown up anyway. The reactor was so big that even its designers couldn't predict it's behavior at low power so they just wrote in the technical documentation "try to avoid operations below 200 MW thermal"
They knew since the beginning in 1968 that a single fuel channel rupturing could blow the 2000 tons lid up and destroy the reactor but dismissed it as unlikely to ever happen so they didn't have to throw the whole design into the trash.

Oh and for those who wonder why they wanted to cool the core even though they were told it was destroyed : in the soviet manuals for civilian reactor operations, the engineers were told to cool the core at all cost in case of absolute emergency.
The designers made scenarios and procedures to follow in case of reactor destruction, earthquake and plane crashing onto a reactor, but it was classified as highly unlikely to ever happen, so the engineers were never told about all of that.
That's why instead they were told that RBMKs couldn't explode even if the designers knew very well it could happen during normal operations

sav'd

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lewd

Please don't talk to the tripfags. Please.

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kek sex

We could watch the VCE atomic bomb documentaries on a stream or something?

Well alright, I see you.

again, horseshit

Hammer & Sickle (1994)

>still no pic of core Chan having sex with the elephant foot

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Someone explain. Why don´t they just build this energy plants in a no mans land. Like if anything bad happened, nobody but the plant workers would get hurt. I think people can handle that a desert area has turned into a nuclear zone.

>crushed or die from radiation
that dude was turned to vapor instantly

socialism gross

How bad is 3.6 roentgen?

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stop me

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only you, retarded zoomer

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>implying elephants foot isn't core chans bodily fluids

I have seen worse

based oc

93 not great not terrible

mantalcrash is infinitely better than bashirfag or valleyforge
bf and vf completely focus on themselves and try to make entire threads about them

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'94

Fuck off ya little brat

No the light effects aren't due to radiations, they had to use sets of miroirs to take the picture from behind the wall where they were safe. That's what caused the effects.

Because for every worker at the plant, you need like two other people working surrounding jobs. Staffing grocery stores, maintaining apartments.
The workers have family and kids. So you build a school. Now you need teachers etc etc.

The alternative way is to treat it like an oil rig or a remote mine. Fly in personnel for 3 weeks on 3 weeks off with 12 hour shifts or something like that.
More expensive, harder to respond to failures.

6 000 000 bullets

It works out to about 400 chest x-rays. So the equivalent of a chest x-ray.

at least BF posted pics of herself

delusional

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>when the cherenkov effect captures your soul

I'm told it's the equivalent of getting a chest X-Ray

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you are literally retarded.

Freedom fries baked in the oven always are shit

you're god damn right it is.

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how many rontgens in a hour did they get?

Not a movie but a series of documentaries concerning the design and life of the Soviet airforce.

Wings of the red star

It's comfy and all on youtube

Aren't these effects due to the exposure time because of how dark it is in there?

Kin-dza-dza
youtu.be/I47CNxwlt9U

All tripfags are cancerous. NO EXCEPTIONS.

spray them with pam first

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VASILY WHAT DO YOU SEE

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You can look at the Elephant's Foot directly without dying, just don't stare at it for 30 minutes straight or you might feel a little woozy.

only a couple of thousand, no big deal.

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OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Cheap energy would off set the extra cost of handling the whole thing like a oil rig or those year long submarine missions.

A giant samovar.

not bad not terrible

>I see... I see ... a nigger lolololololol like and subscribe

Why didnt they just pump water into the core?

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finna dab on this thread

There is also the problem of transmission. You want to generate the power reasonably close to the people who want to use it.

because it would go straight to steam because of the heat

There was no core.

why didnt they just put the core on a space ship and shoot it into the sun?

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problem is that the core used to conveniently be located in one place and now it is in many places.

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You are delusional.

30 minutes straight would melt your skin off your bones. 5 minutes is the kill mark. 30 seconds is the woozy mark.

thank god there are women to save the day

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That'd be like trying to put out an active volcano with a garden-hose.

>Mfw that used to be on discover wings
>The golden age of the Discovery channel and it's subsidiaries

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'36. Not great, not terrible.

youtu.be/TxJ1lfHbMnY

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Because water would not do shit. The core temperature was 2000 C (graphite burning). The water instantly vaporizes taking some energy (not much latent heat of fusion+vaporization) and carries dangerous aerosols with it to the atmosphere. In addition, the water is spilled everywhere in the surrounding structures and now they are dirty with radiation.

because as soon as they flew the spaceship within the 10 metre perimeter above the core it would be destroyed and there was no core

it would make the sun radioactive

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Now I´m not a wiz on these stuff. But I´m sure you can store energy and transport it, especially with todays tech, it should be easy.

>most dangerous object on earth
pfft

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury

It's not at all. That's why there's a gigantic industry of companies just trying to find ways to store electricity in batteries of all sizes and flavors. That's why wind and solar are not adopted over other sources 24/7. We simply can't store it.

>youngpioneertours
jeej it's just like the bad old days

One of the workers actually looked into the reactor, he died of radiation sickness. Of course, there was no soldier there.
The director of nuclear power plant is still working in the Ukrainian nuclear industry.
Those three people who went to shut off the valves went there simply because they time to work on a plant been atm, they were not offered any incentives in the form of money. One of them died in 2005, the other two are still alive.

that's mostly bs.

>3,000 years until humans can live there again
>but 200 people who are 70-80 are living there with out water or electricity in houses they were born in

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i see

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there are pics of mentalcrash too, only """she""" doesn't posts them.

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you seen nothing comrade

> One of them died in 2005, the other two are still alive.
>200 people who are 70-80 are living there with out water or electricity in houses they were born in

I'm starting to think radiation is a meme

Definitely not a rbmk reactor exploding because that's impossible

you see my hammer? next i show you my sicle

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lol digital fags
get real bozos

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why don't they build another power plant in Chernobyl? it's already fucked

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If you are so smart, tell me how an RBMK reactor explodes.

There is no tech for storing huge amounts of electricity.

>Thriving forest and wildlife

DUDE NUCLEAR WASTLAND

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theres a severe deficiency of webms in these threads.

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I don't know

>3 men wasted their life for idiots
I think the disaster would help Europe a lot more, look at Japan, the nukes were almost godsend if you look at the nips today.

Shcherbina (the stupid party worker in the series) suffered from radiation and died several months before the collapse of the USSR. He noted that Yeltsin could usurp power and lead to problems in the Soviet Union, moreover, people noted him as a very kind and sympathetic person.

property insurance would be too high as another incident has already happened there, and it's high risk.

it doesn't
there isn't

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nerdy gf tier, definitely would

>What is Tesla super batteries?
Elon will save us.

HEAR HEAR

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>Those three people who went to shut off the valves went there simply because they time to work on a plant been atm
lol wut? lern2inglesh, boris

it's a big nothing compared to the accumulated damages other energy sources have done to the environment
even if we had to deal with the eventuality of regular Chernobyls (we don't) it'd still be worth using nuclear energy

based yank brainlet poster

1. Why would they do that? You would have to pay ppl extra to work in dangerous conditions.
2. It's Ukraine now and they have little money.
3. The gas from Russia is enough.

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yet, i saw this thing where they are thinking about building kinetic towers that contantly move giant bricks and the moment is the stored energy or some shit i forget i smoke a lot of pot

He was trying to say they were on shift I believe.

>Steyfun, how could an RBMK reactor explode?
>I don't know

Why didn't they just nuke the core?

REMINDER THAT THE LINE IS
>not great, but it's not horrifying
not 'not bad, but not terrible'

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piped water issa thing

Go to bed, Vlad

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85. Cut the grass yesterday.

Your shits all fucked up

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>not on fleek, but not lame

It's fucking nothing. You have to save much more than that just to power a small town.
What?

>not dope, but not whack

They didn't because nuclear weapons don't actually exist, and are a polite fiction maintained by the superpowers of the world to prevent an apocalyptic war

november 88

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>we found your graphite there stephyun

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Both are correct. Not bad, but not terrible is said by Dyatlov when the plant had exploded, earlier in the episode.

Based on this pic and your main childhood era here, are y'all Gen X, Millennial, or Zoomer?

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Chernobyl cost about 3 billion USD to build (probably closer to 5).
Ukraine couldn't afford a 400 million USD new confinement, so let alone a modern NPP

So if I understand this right. Nuclear power plants are fine, the Chenrobyl one was fine. But some old people decided to play around and do experiment with it. Yeah?

That's Bryukhanov's line.
Dyatlov's line some time earlier is "not great not terrible". Watch the episode again, you pothead.

>pipe water uphill during non-peak hours
>flow it downhill through turbines during peoak hours/surges
they do it in Wales I believe

these dont even make sense when the line is two negatives (one slightly less) not a negative and a positive
you zoomer memesters suck ass at everything

Why is it always men that have to sacrifice themselves to save millions? Will there ever be a disaster scenario in the future where women volunteer to die to save us all?

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What would happen if you ate it

Do Zoomers not watch this show or is the rest of the audience too young to even post?

Late Gen X/ early millennial aka the kino generation

Why would they? That would just spread their problem across a larger area. It was easier to deal with when localized.

salty bag of milk coins

Living past 30 is also a meme, evolution did not plan this to continue for so long.

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Wrongissimo
Correctissimo

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>i think i saw laughite

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>not bants, not kék, but cringe

>building nuclear power plants involves irradiation the surroundings

why are people so fucking dumb.

Yeah. But the power plant is still close to the consumer. The original poster was saying let's tore electricity in batteries and move the batteries around.

Chernobyl wasn't fine, the plant had flaws, the reactors were unstable even under normal operations, the control computers were shit (the soviets were 15 years behind the West in computer science)

The test would have likely blown the reactor up anyway as no one ever did it before them

False.

I tried to watch it, but is hard to understand them. I dunno if they are calling each other or if they are saying some town, all these Russian names confuse me. They are not doing fake dialects, why can they just not use the American name of the places and names?

How the fuck am I wrong? I said both are correct since they both say it in their own way.

By the way, the helicopter fell after several days of sand drops. Most likely, it fell due to cables remained on the crane. In the first days a construction beam hung on them, but then it was removed, and the pilots did not see these cables after.

why didnt they just shit all over the core?

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no?

2 minutes up on the roof, or 20 years in a gulag camp?

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He doesn't say 'not bad'

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Experiment yes. Playaround no.. they we're conducting a very specific test for safety interlocks/protocols on future designs. There was a thorough procedure prepared by Fomin but Dylatov decided to adlib it that night.

well I am past caring whose reading comprehension was the poorest in that exchange
elevate the water, then move it in movable towers at that elevation. Keep the potential energy

Fellow 91chad here.

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Because men by themselves can't reproduce. There is no point of saving yourself if you won't be able to prolong your genomes existence through future generations.

After the evacuation, they didn't shut down reactors 1, 2 and 3 until 1991, '96 and 2000. The Chernobyl Plant effectively continued operation for a good decade.

>Anybody else wants to see a disaster of this type happening again?
Yes but only in America

Oh, right. Please excuse me i'll be right back, i'm going up to the roof.

>90s
>chad
heh

>Game of Thrones is better than Chernobyl

93 here

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>the American name

Hot diggity darn, they got themselves a big ol' explosion down at the Wormworm Nucular Power Plant, hooooo doggy! Them little firefighter boys are as good as cooked!

Said literally nobody ever.

GOOKS OUT

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>You will never be a fully grown up fully lucid adult watching 9/11 unfold
>All your memories will be as a shit headed 15 year old in highschool that couldn't even drive without mommy help yet
>The weight of the moment will forever be lost

I hate that I never took that shit seriously. I can only hope for another happening.

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Daily reminder that in the USSR undermining your reactor safety systems to save money is ok.

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That would require an absolutly flat path from the plant's location to the consumer's location. In addition, you would spend much more energy moving around enormous water bodies around. That's no effective at all.

91

This shit makes no sense. I know radiation can kill even though it is invinsible to the eye, but it just seems so dumb, how can something you can not see kill you? And if it´s so deadly, why did no one just postal that shit into a place you want nuked like say Iran war, and have it leak radition for free kills?

But we did though
>Those numerous crazy fucking storms 2012-2014 a Ross the central and eastern US
>Arab spring
>The earthquake and then japa. Nuke disaster
>The various allusnackbar attacks
>The Vegas attacks
>The 2017-2018 hurricanes
>The lost planes in recent years and general aviation happenings

Just go to /Pol/ for such comfort.

I'm 28 and I still don't have a drivers license.
my life is a basket and in that basket is nothing but trash, it is in fact not a basket, it is a trashbin.

We already do. Drumph just won't let anyone know.

bunch of tiny ass niggas with guns my dude

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There is a passage in the Book of Revelation that says a star named Wormwood will fall from the sky and turn the waters bitter to drink.

Yet Chernobyl did not fall from the heavens to earth, it blew up from the earth into the heavens. Nonetheless, the waters are bitter.

there will be a disaster scenario where a woman CLAIMS she tried to volunteer to save us all but was stopped by a man

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Only in the movies baby

Not visible to the eye, in the visible spectrum.

But that shit, as the name implies radiates stuff in numerous and easily detectable ways.

If you really want to understand - there are videos about that, from nuclear energy specialists youtube.com/watch?v=ryI4TTaA7qM

tl;dr
>personnel complacency from history of smooth operation
>inherently unsafe design that traded off security for power and cheapness

Look at this fucking retard. Makes you think about the bell curve and IQ distribution and how some people are at the lower end of the spectrum and stuff.

I was 14 and remember it clearly

>uk
>came home
>want to watch dbz
>cartoon network flashes up banners switch to news
>think we are getting nuked or something
>some american building is on fire?, why is this breaking news
>they play footage
>holy shit
>staring at screen
>2nd plane comes in

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...

All the plants and soil are still heavily contaminated and will be for a long time, just breathing the air around there increases your chance of dying from cancer several hundred percent, the people who live there are fucking crazy or cancer-immune freaks who have been naturally selected from the pripyat population, most of whom died of cancer or have had several cancer related surgeries.

People should just stay out of there, unless they have to go in for short stints to work on the containment structures around Reactor 4.

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Are you saying a bunch of ISIS terrorist will have some radiation detector?

>tfw I was 23 on 9/11

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I bet you think germs don't exist.

Same here, UK too. I was watching something stupid on the tv after school and my parents switched it over. I thought the US was being bombed.

i'm 32, failed test at 21 when i could affored it and thought fuck it I still got time but other things to focus on

bam suddenly 32

car would have helped the decline and should have been a top priority

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It's so fucking stupid that the TELEVISION AND FILM BOARD CAN'T PLAY AUDIO WEBUMS

close your eyes and walk around a rough neighbourhood, and invisible things might kill you

That's ok, Comrade. Only 3.6 roentgen up there. Not great, not terrible.

>look down into the eye of hell
>don't jump in

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I was 15 then, and heard it from teacher which made the thing a big deal, but I never card since we were so far away from USA. To this day, I still don´t get the big deal, in fact it annoys me, flying is annoying now.

watching Bald and Bankrupt kino while waiting for more episodes. I fucking love russians, desu.
youtube.com/watch?v=50pQHccrlHg

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>Lived near cape Canaveral
>Hear about it at highschool
>All day we watch the disaster unfold in each class
>Teachers are crying
>Students being faggot edgy teenagers
>At the end of the day have to walk home since they stopped bus service, parents couldn't pick me up
>Walk to home with friends
>Suddenly see pairs of fully loaded F-18s scream over head on patrols
>The streets were fucking empty and everything was closed up

I'm 33 now and would have the greatest erection if that happened today while at work. All I get bow are gay ass school shootings on the news. Nothing worthy of scrambling the god damn airforce for a good part of the day

That shit was pretty spoopy

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>invisible killers

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92 here

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>6th grade recess
>bell rings, crowds form at the doors slowly filing back into the school
>Hey did you hear? Terrorists flew a plane into the Empire State Building!
>Cool, fuck New York

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Even for a commie that dude is alpha as fuck.

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WHY IS EVERYONE HERE SO OLD

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Same. Also watched the challenger blow up live with the entire elementary school. Everyone was so pumped because they were sending an actual school teacher to space. That was an awkward shift in tone.

Was Akimov the Ukranian Einstien or something? Why did no one tell him shit is fucking crazy and we will die if we don´t leave even though they deep down know that. And are so relectunt to carry off these dangerous task he gives them? And why was the dude so chill while everyone shat their pants? I assume they are all also smart people?

Pretty much any developed nation or even semi developed has detectors to spot radiation. They are quite simple devices really.

They are just transistors of a particular metal oxide with a particular gate voltage. Radiation induces defects (hole/electron pairs) which change the metal oxides conductivity giving a new signal. That's why the flash lights went out or the helicopters radio staticed out, that radiation was changing the electrical conductivity of the materials in the electronics so they didn't work anymore.

Is it any good?

That whole thing happened because with the death of Stalin the coal lobby was able to persuade the central committee that USSR doesn't need any big civilian NPPs. In the beginning of 60s, everybody realized it was false and they started to look for solutions. That's where the military guys came in and suggested upscaling the reactors they were using to produce Plutonium assuring that the technical standards and tolerances would be the same for civilians. That created first RBMKs and VVERs - reactors with no containment measures. The fatal flow in RBMKs was not only the positive reactivity on the safety rod's tip. It was mainly two things: no containment (it was too expensive and long to make huge core-vessels) and the absence of the independent secondary safety circuits (the designers considered it overkill).

Meh, how about something that'll burn just about everything, even something that's already been burnt to ashes or is normally non-flammable without needing an ignition source?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride#Hazards

One of the few people to handle the stuff recommends "...a good pair of running shoes.” when dealing with it:

blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2008/02/26/sand_wont_save_you_this_time

It's one of the best shows of the 2010s.

he wants to watch Episode 3 of Chernobyl with you, what do you say?

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>men by themselves can't reproduce
neither can women

the first season is REALLY good. Then the second season kept doing shit that pissed me off and all the heists and schemes weren't as compelling. Then season 3 did something real mean to best girl.

Like in season 1 ep 2 I think they do a whole scheme where they poison the son of a maid to force the maid to put a bug in her bosses office to save her son and that was some 5d checkers scheming.

ETA on new episode?

"no"

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24 hrs

Akimov actually refused to do the test at first but then he was threatened by Dyatlov that he will lose his job if he did not comply. It's in their testimonies to the court.

>4th grade morning
>whole class gets taken to a classroom that we don't ever go to
>tv is on and it's the news
>see a building on fire and don't care, just want to know why we're forced to watch this
>mom takes me out of school
>go home and turn on the tv
>nothing but that building on fire and the one next to it also caught on fire
>only keep thinking to myself where the fuck are my cartoons
ignorance is bliss

based drawfag

Redpill me on the USSR. was everything really owned by the state and managed by the state? Even small time local shops and stuff?
What about current China, can private citizens own and manage their business?

They actually can.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Humans

Mads Mikkelson is next level.

>small time local shops
What did you mean by this!?

Akimov had a wife and two young sons, he didn't want to lose his job and leave Pripyat which was pretty much the soviet paradise in 1986, they had fresh food, luxuries, modern facilities. Being fired would mean going on a potato diet in Siberia.

what is polar

Not everything was owned by the state. Especially in agriculture. When you were in kolhoz, you just had to fulfill the quota the rest of your production was yours and you could sell it to the state or privately on farmer's markets.

>Mishildur, cast the graphite away and help me with the valves!

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The fuck, I didn't know OG Dumbledore Richard Harris was his Dad!

Owned by the state yes, no private investors, if you needed money for the factory you were appointed to lead, then you had to ask the central bank.

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hmmmm i want her to step on me and squish me

>What about current China, can private citizens own and manage their business?
user, China is fucking FERAL capitalism.

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Same was with the factories. If you overproduced stuff - the factory could sell it to the state or to private individuals. The profit would go to the factory's workers. That's why even in the planned economy there was still some competition left.

84
>tfw alive when it took place but too young to understand what was going on
feels bad

The land, the tools and the buildings were essentially state property, keeping some of the food for yourself was just an exception the soviet made past the 50s for farm workers

this has to be reversed huh

Depends on the industry and scale. Some stuff is still 100% governmental.

There was private property. Something like 60% of all new housing developments in the 70s and 80s were small village houses and cottages financed and owned by individuals or households.

If I put that mask of would he die?

No, John Gizzi is just that based.

So things would be better if they all fucked off from there when the fire started? Them trying to fix it made it worse?

Not all land. You forget about "шecть coтoк". Some housing was private too.

It was a gigantic mismanaged mess, that's all you need to know about it. They couldn't even produce toilet paper on their own.

If they fucked off from there the fire could get to the oil, diesel and hydrogen tanks causing explosions and bigger fire that could go to the other reactors and make an even bigger disaster.

And that was a bad idea. It lead to the redirection of some materials for private profit. Most construction materials were defective, the safety standards were not met to produce more. Party members stole parts of the productions for profit.

That's why the government made all of these criminal offenses sentenced by death. It didn't prevent people from doing it in the 70s and 80s tho.

Dyatlov having them keep pumping water through broken pipes did flood the lower levels and damage other safety measures, yes.

How do you guys deal with the fact that younger generations are pretty much impossible to understand?

Is that the dude, who travels to India all the time? Shit, imagine if Chernobyl would happen in India. They had some chem factory disaster too, if i remember - thousands were dead.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

And if India were to go to war with Pakistan with nukes, it would be hundreds of Chernobyls everywhere in India.

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Dyatlov followed the safety instructions though.

Wouldn't do much. I recently read that all Indian rivers are massively polluted by heavy metals, pesticides and harmful chemicals. The air and fields too.

Radiations wouldn't be worse

Radiation is always worse. Crops, plants, mushrooms get radiated, animal meat too. People give birth to more mutants, and birth rates in India are high. They start worshiping mutants as hindu gods even worse.

It became a mismanaged mess because they started to push "5 years in 3" bullshit inspired by people like Stakhanov. The corruption started to flourish during Brezhnev (a old fuck who did not want to go away). The sole reason the mismanagement did not stop was that Andropov died really soon and did not finish his purges. Chernenko was a part of the rotten nomenklatura and then Gorbachev happened accelerated the decay.

Mainly alcohol

They're inbreeding massively in the South of India, up to 50% of newborns are inbred there.
Only 4% on the north tho

Again, radiations kills and damages overtime. Chemicals do that much quicker

Chemical disasters killed more people around the globe than radiation.