Troy

HECTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

since you seem to like it a lot, watch it for the 159th time, and then you'll hear it: the only dialogue, repeated three or four times in the first hour is about glory life and death and immortality
and a so intense lack of imagination is BORING
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING§

The story is shit.

Yes, yes it did. There are baked clay tablets that name Paris as well as the city it's self. Excavation reveals a city that was devastated by fire and shanties hastily constructed over it with similar descriptions to that of homer

Was Diane Kruger elite?

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She played the role well and fit the part. Helen herself was probably hotter

>Paris lives
>Menelaus dies
>Agamemnon dies

bullshit. If helen was a real person shed look like a frumpier version of Athena with blonde hair, going by what they thought was beautiful in 800bc

Helen war a greek dorian 14 year old

she only looks good in national treasure and troy. literally

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>changed too much of the story
It's not like the story was that interesting to begin with

>comment

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>t. Hasn't read the Iliad and Odyssey

>Paris and Helen Escape

Seriously what the fuck

Has anyone read posthomerica? I want to know what happens between Iliad and Odyssey, but don't wanna read summaries of fragments

they founded rome you retard didn't you read the aeneid?

Paris is killed by Menelaus and Helen is raped by Agamemnon during the sack. Aeneas and his wife escape with 1200 people into phyrgia though.

That was Aeneas retard

>aeneid
reading anything from that plagiarist virgin
pathetic

Read the Illiad and you will understand

Marvel shit didn't happen either but you capeshitters whine everytime a mutt gets black
Also the Troyan war happened, you are a subhuman and you will never pass

>Aeneas founds Rome
>his grand son found Britain
Was George Washington a Trojan?

>jews mad Achilles is blonde when he was actually described as exactly brad pitt

Its a shit film

Just one minute in, everyone was thinking that he should be in the show. In fact, it looked like he was the only guy not enjoying it. In fact, the movie started with him giving people the finger and trying to kiss the camera guys so the guy with the camera said, "I know what the hell I'm doing now."

So who would watch this? Just show us this: "Rookie, what else are people gonna talk about while I'm playing 'em?" Then show us this: "This is gonna kill people in an elevator." We could be getting more out of this thing than "Rookie, get that kid on the ground." But seriously. This guy has a great acting career. This is like his career as an actual man, man. Please be nice to him.

This is not part of Iliad, Illiad ends with Achilles and Priam embraced, crying for their loses (Patroclus, Hector)
Illiad has the potential to be the most kino movie of all times and it's wasted on Kikewood productions
Just imagine a good directed scene of the river Scamander trying to drawn a berserked Achilles with Hephaestus
intervening by throwing fire into the river
Symbolism of the highest level of aesthetics

Absolutely pleb taste

I hate kikes so much

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>American education
How do I know he’s American?
Because burgers are the only ones shitting on other nations’ cultures while having the most consumistic and morally hollow society in the whole world.

Book 2 of the Iliad is literally just a long list of dudes and the number of ships they brought, and how many dudes there were to each ship. It's slightly more than 1000 ships I think, I counted once.

Saddly that's all we have
Little Iliad, Aethiopis and Iliupersis are lost and most of the knowledge we have are either from secondary sources or from the Greek tragedies that survived the passage of time

There's always Virgil's trojanboo fanfiction

your right its not part of the illiad but neither is the sack of troy which is what was being discussed.

Every time I see these threads I can’t help but think about the guy here who beat his gf for smiling when Orlando Bloom came on screen.

One of the only movies where Sean Bean lives.

>Why do nerds hate this movie?

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I would give my left testicle to read Aethiopis and the 2lost works from the Prometheus trilogy
I unironically believe that drama and epic poetry pciked in Ancient Greece, Shakespear is a brainlet dramaturgist in comparison

literally everything is wrong with it and i feel disgust just thinking about it. its morally wrong since the original morality and motivations are replaced with dumb mutt ideas. everything was changed in the story, two of the best characters are left out and all of the gods aswell, making it a dumb mutt atheist interpretation. also everyone looked different than they should have except maybe hector. brad pitt with that ugly ape jaw it was pathetic, menelaus and agamemnon should have been good looking and brave leaders and so on. everyone who liked it is a literal pleb uncultured brainlet. stay the fuck away from ancient culture americans, STAY THE FUCK AWAY

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I was in that Troy thread. Pretty sure she did more than just smile but from what I remember it was still far from justifiable.

A real adaptation of the Iliad would probably be the most kino thing of all time. It would put the LOTR movies to shame.

HEEEEEECCCCCCTTTTTOOOORRR

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obvious bait but you should put more effort in your greentext

>Read the Iliad and thought it was the most epic thing ever put to paper
>saw Troy a couple years ago
>what a lame debacle
N-not all americans, I s-s-swear

yo wasn't Achilles gay?

he was banging that priestess tho.

It felt more like a dry, historical epic and less like a fantastical retelling. Pretty fucking boring and utterly forgettable except for the part where Achilles chimps out halfway through or so.

No

The usage of Gods as symbols or expressions of emotions in Illiad is something never seen before or after done so masterfully and the sperm that gave birth to drama aka the birth of culture

>mfw faggots want a 1:1 adaption
Troy was pure kino and only brainlet faggots disagree.

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>liking a white movie makes me a mutt
yuropoors brains are KEBAB'D out the ass.

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I'm more angry at the rape of Norse mythology done by American comics/capeshit desu

Liking a kike souless brainlet adaptation of the greatest work of literature of the western world does the trick
You will be remembered as the murderers of Western culture

Nordic myths are nigger tier, who cares

>screenplay by David Benioff

>mfw yuropoors who've let invaders into their homes call other countries the scourge of western culture

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It was better than I thought it would be

You have never read any of them. Only the American capeshit version

>you sack of wine!

Ive read everything
Even Kalevala
They are awful

This is why.

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>cuts out all the mythical context
>Achilles is a retard who chimps out on the only decent guy in the movie because he killed someone pretending to be Achilles since Achilles was lazing around
>Cowardly bitch Paris gets away with everything

That's the thing though. Post homerica covers all that but was written when Rome was around
Don't know if dude had the original works in front of him

>You won't have eyes tonight, you won't have ears or a tongue. You will wander the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb, and all the dead will know, This is Hector, the fool who thought he killed Achilles.

absolutely fucking based

Then you have shit taste

Your points don't really make sense, you idolize Hector yet call Paris a bitch. Hector is the reason Paris is allowed to be a coward and not die for his crimes. He broke the treaty and put his thieving womaniser brother above his whole country.

>original works
Assuming Homer ever had a definitive version. This stuff is really just an amalgamation of the most interesting parts of a telephone game.

Achilles was straight I swear

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>13th century mythology too retarded even for cavemen
It's the worst mythology i've read and i've read a shitload
The only symbolisms coming from christian influences, moral values for boars, hero motivation for brainlets

The stories have to be accurate, there are a lot of secondary sources describing the events and they were really popular considering how many times they are depicted in art
The literary value is questionable though

Frankly in the context of the film the smart move would've been to just kill Achilles with archers.

>literary value is questionable though
The quality allegedly gets close to homer at points so I've debated reading it.

KoH was better in every conceivable way.

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but what about his early scify, obv his later prole pandering works werent peak performance

Which version/translation would you recommend?

There any other movies like this? Watch it once a year and would love to add some more.

You should read it but if you expect another Illiad i think you will be disappointed
The pace of the storyline increases a lot, i guess that's the possitive
Reminder that Little Iliad, Aethiopis, Nostos and Iliupersis were not works of Homer
Sorry i can't help since i haven't read it translated

Gladiator
Robin Hood (with Russell Crowe, very well done, row me bully boys row)
Ben Hur (with Charlton Heston)
The Patriot

Will do. I've been looking at a couple different versions
Someone has also drawn pieces from various texts like Ovid to recreate the Cypria. May pick it up too. I know the story that lead to the Trojan war, but want to see what might have been if it were intact

I would like to see the whole life of Achiles, specially when he fought the amazon.
There would be memes on end with that shit. Most people from the main boards are incels.

>that chad thats dissapointed in you being a doomer and decides to wake your doomed ass up at 1 in the afternoon to lift

It was the fast and the furious fantasy. Boring characters with too much focus on over the top action.

Fuck you

Fagles is good for a first time read. He strikes the balance between keeping the rhythm intact and providing a word for word translation.

>muh americans
pathetic

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best line in the film. loved the interaction between he and priam

What is modern India?

goddamn, check out those thighs

the greeks? the only people stupid enough to lie about not having a pool for tax purposes?

greeks belived that fucking traps WASNT gay