What went wrong Yea Forums?

Yous guys said that pic related would easily breaks 800m worldwide. Why did it underperformed? Why a franchise so big like Pokemon is doing Alita numbers on the box office?

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Dumb kids movie. I guessed the whole ending about 20 minutes in. I'm simply doesn't have the right cultural appeal, marketing, and was not written for all ages.

Beloved franchise turned into a race swapped, stupid buddy cop flick.
Lol, they actually thought casting deadpool as pikachu would save them. Dumb niggers.

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It's a bad movie. You need literally no pokemon knowledge to see this movie, which (much to my surprise) is a huge detriment. I feel like this script didn't necessarily have to feature pokemon to be a story, like you could swap it out for some other critter or intellectual property and the Big Beats of the script would remain the same.
Also the ending is super weird

What's the ending

pikachu fucked the kids mom and he was in fact the father they had been searching for

Big fight against human controlled Mewtu combining human minds with pokemon bodies in a city parade.
Pikachu is actually dad.

What the fuck

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> I'm simply doesn't have the right cultural appeal, marketing, and was not written for all ages.
Come on user, it's Pokemon, one of the biggest franchises in the world, how could they fuck something like this so badly?
This basically killed the movie for the asian audience, everyone knows that chinks don't watch movies that have black people on the lead role.

I'm trying to write it up in a way that makes sense but it's proving difficult
Detective Pikachu has amnesia tge whole movie. It turns out that DP is actually the protag's dad. Dad (a detective) witnesses a crime and the Bad Guy tries to kill him. Mewtwo saves his life by storing Dad's soul inside Pikachu. The final scene of the movie is Actual Dad standing beside Regular Pikachu* as they say "see you again soon" to the protag at a train station.
*Regular Pikachu is still wearing the detective hat so I don't understand whether "Detective Pikachu" means Dad Pikachu or Regular Pikachu, or maybe their souls are split 50/50 when they're both inside a pokemon??? I mean Idk just kill me

Terrible casting. This mutt is fuck ugly, can't act for shit and has zero charisma. The girl was also pretty bad.

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A huge terrorist attack with Muslims using electabuzz as their weapons

Endgame had longer legs than what WB anticipated. If they waited just one more week it would have done a lot better.

4th highest grossing game related movie. Already pasted Pokémon 1 which is heavily referenced and possibly canon.

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Terrible leads.

You can get James Marsden for Sonic but you get Justice Smith and barely average white girl to play the lead roles?

Ryan Reynolds as Pikachu as Ryan Reynolds.

World building was good.. Pokemon looked pretty good at times and GREAT at others.

They made alot of mistakes.

Pokemon is such a huge IP that it shouldn't be a problem to turn it into a really great movie with a little bit of effort.

But here we are.

I enjoyed it for what it was.. But I was really happy when it was over.

please be joke

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left one looks more like a mutt.
Should have done better in US at least

they thought they could fool the chinks with the glasses

>Couldn't beat Endgame in the fourth week
>Wick killed both
>We can't point its flaws because it's a kid's movie according to the die hard fans
>But they have no problem shitting on the anime ones when they are for kids too and still do their job, getting a lot of money
I don't know if double standards are involved in that, or Reynolds's fanbase defending the movie because Pikapool.

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>Number 2 in opening weekend
>Number 3 in second weekend
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

Came out at the worst time. Endgame stole all the hype. Should have waited.

Yeah, but now John Wick is the one doing it.
At this rate Detective Pikachu will get the same numbers as Shazam, or even lower.

The only thing they needed was a decent lead, I saw that niglet in JW extinction and he was worst than cancer. Ryan Reynolds can pull some numbers (I personally know someone who watched it purely because of him), but only so far.

its literally because the premise is fucking Detective Pikachu, nobody cares because they dont want to see some by the cliche buddy cop cop movie, people want to see fucking Pokemon battles and all, how in the name of fuck did they think it was a good idea to barely have Pokebattles in the movie
if this shit was called ''Pokemon: The Movie'' or something it would have broken 1 billion already

>Fucking Pikachu can't beat Endgame in it's fourth week
>But John Wick did it
Lol, can't wait to see Sonic will perform at the box office
It will problably be lower than Shazam.

well i liked it anyway.
fuck you all.

Is the dad Ryan Reynolds or some random guy? There's no way Ryan's son would be that ugly right?

Relax user, no one says you can't. We watch what we want to watch and don't watch what we want don't to watch which is why I don't see movies with black leads.

haha wow the only thing about pokemon is the battles. battles battles battles.
fuck you idiot there is much more to pokemon than battles.
go watch capeshit or the billion other stupid fight films churned out daily.
there is much more to pokemon than just battling all the time there are plenty people in pokemon world who don't battle or want to be a pokemon master. it was a breath of fresh air pokemon story wise to have something not just pointless battles to be a pokemon master.

Should have cast a white guy and an asian chick.

Would have brought in the yellow fever nerds, the asian audience. the weeb audience, and the nostalgia fags.

When is jewllywood going to realize that white guys are the exotic niggers of asia and they want to see brad on screen, not jamal

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Yep, Ryan is Tim's father.

>I don't see movies with black leads.
Yea Forums had me worried i would hate it because of this but honestly as long as i only had to listen to karan soni whine on for the first 5 minutes and then he was out i couldn't have given two fucks what colour the lead guy was.
you only see him pick up a photo of the mother. you can only see that she is black. like really black. like i almost said out loud "wow could she BE any more black?" like abnormally black.
i think you see his gran too shes like an old black lady? maybe i'm making this up now.

>fuck you idiot there is much more to pokemon than battles.
oh yeah kids really care about some half baked drama ''MUH POKEMUN ARE FRENS''
no, for Pokemon the only thing that matter are collecting and the battles

It was based on Detective Pikachu and not any of the Pokemon games anyone actually played.

>When is jewllywood going to realize that white guys are the exotic niggers of asia and they want to see brad on screen, not jamal
they know and they don't care
they want chinks to fetishize niggers like whites do and the only way to do that is normalize their presence and cultural impact

Shut the fuck up pokefag, the entire premise of your favorite series is a SMT ripoff, deal with it. If someone really cared about anything outside of the battles, this movie would not be flopping right now. And let's not pretend that vidyashit is above capeshit in any way, they're both trash.

Of course it's not a joke. But it was like the Jokers plan from 1989s Batman.

My biggest gripe was that they reused so many (brilliantly animated) pokemon.
I've seen like 30 squirtles and for some reason there where quite many audinos.
It would've been nice if there were some more background pokemon the you just get a glimpse of as a fan service. But as it stands everything was used at least twice.

Boy, remember when the first trailer came out and a bunch of retards were saying this was going to be huge?
It might not even hit 300 mill from the ways things are going.

The whole "I don't care what race the lead guy was" is such a weak western white person thing to say. These films blatantly make casting choices to appeal to tribalism with Black Panther and randomly inserting a highly competent Chinese person into modern blockbusters for the Chinese audience.

Far to say it's the defining factor but going forward try not to be a pussy who says race doesn't matter.

Movie was dumb and cute and totally fine. Would watch a sequel.

never going to happen, especially in china. Asian chicks fucking worship white dudes even without it being shoved in your face on tv like niggers and white women

So its obviously more organic than some sort of brainwashing.

this ryans voice was a terrible choice for pikachu

You do know that Black Panther did very well in China right?
A bunch of people there said that the lead actor was good looking, and that is enough sometimes.

>Not electrode
Ok

niggers

Then why was Aquaman such a hit there? Momoa isn't white senpai.

hes a chad islander

i'm not saying it'll work to the point that they no longer like white people
i'm saying hollywood wants people to fuck niggers(and non-whites in general) and the only way for them to do that is to make all their female leads love black guys and belittle white men constantly

Samaons are pretty bad ass, look at the rock.

No one likes niggers except white liberals who want to shove them into everything even if it makes no profit

No, east asian guy and white redhead female would have been better, then you could have at least made references to ash and misty.

(((Hollywood)))’s obsession with ugly mutts, and unattractive generic nigs in general, is the reason I stopped watching most shows and movies. I know they’re forcing mutts to promote mixing and basically saying “this is what your grandchildren will look like” but that isn’t going to make these filthy disgusting circumcised bastard get their wish and rule a degenerate race of disgusting hideous mutts with genetic disorders and what not. Hybrid vigor lol. These stupid fucking kikes need to be exterminated for real

>slightly brown islandstizo who looks like a bearded conan the barbarian makes gook pussy wet
i'm shocked

>make a movie about a franchise for children and onions dependent faggots with the mentality of children
>cast the guy who plays Deadpool so you can also get some of the money from people who somehow find him funny
>make it all uncanny valley CGI

Gee i dunno why it did poorly.

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Alright, i'll give you that. But the point is that the color isn't really important as long as the guy is handsome, like in the rest of the world to be fair.

Except Black Panther is the only solo capeshit movie still in the top 10 highest grossing

you'd think that after 30 years of trying to make video game movies they'd learn that they will never make the big bucks

because as bad as this film was, it showed promise and people would like to see another live action Pokemon movie someday done better.

Shit on the product and tear it to shreds as a fan and you won't get the product anymore.. Producers and studios will get cold feet and no more live action Pokemon.

When fans have been dying for live action Pokemon for 20 years.

handsome is code for "his facial structure resembles a white man"

how did avgn fuck up his own movie?

>it showed promise

ie I am a dumb fucking retard

>color
They only come in one “color” which is brown and shades of brown. All the colors of the brown rainbow. I agree with what you’re saying though, they could have cast someone who was objectively attractive. But they’re not doing that, they just cast these hideous ugly mutts who are objectively unattractive.

I raged at the end of Solo when that thing took off her helmet to reveal a diversity casted repulsive red haired mutt. The actress who played Missandei in GoT is an attractive mutt. They do exist. Why do they keep casting uggos?

It is 100 percent his dad, but due to the amnesia he thinks he's a Pikachu.

look m8, jews can shove niggers and interracial degeneracy into movies and tv shows but you cant make me pay for it.

Of course people are going to go see john wick instead. based keanu or money grab nigger garbage

The choice is easy

>These films blatantly make casting choices to appeal to tribalism with Black Panther
i don't watch capeshit but i'm pretty sure there would have been a problem if the cast of black panther was all white people?
>highly competent chinese
i don't know whit this is about either but the pokemon characters were all just normal people, it wasn't about a black or a woman being super smart and saving the day being a hero, it was just a fun day out for normal friends.

They are probably really cheap to hire, especially since most can't act for shit too.
These ugly pieces of trash cost pennies to hire compared to better and more beautiful actors.

>i'm pretty sure there would have been a problem if the cast of black panther was all white people?
stop being racist
if asgardians can be black then wakandans can be white

>tfw Warcraft remains highest grossing video game movie
ZUG-ZUG

asgard? like aliens from sg-1?

The big villain is an otherkin.

>Why a franchise so big like Pokemon is doing

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>left one looks more like a mutt
What?

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>people put this much effort into a game they never played
Pretty neat

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>Would have brought in the yellow fever nerds
So, a minority, because racemixing is not common pretty much anywhere?

THIS: God that guy is antipathy in person.
Kinda like ALL mutts in the movies lately, come to think of it.

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Who the fuck would play detective pikachu anyway

Me. I like Pokemon and mystery games.

Pokemon were animated well but the story was absolute shit and the characters were bland. Could maybe entertain a child.

>Me. I like Pokemon and mystery games.

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It was an awful idea to begin with, like how's that even Pokemon? Why is Pikachu solving mysteries or whatever? It's one of those things that is way too obviously a cash grab to even fool the normiest of basedboys.

Casting a half nigger was a huge mistake.

Now, let's analyze this.
Either
1. You are in a Pokemon thread but don't like Pokemon (and thus are a faggot)
or
2. You dislike Mystery games, which means you are a brainlet.

This
It should've been 100% nigger

>Now, let's analyze this.

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>posts this, knowing it's a meme
Kek. You're like a homophobe who sucks black cock everyday.

>really badly acted nostalgia cash grab with diversity casting

>or keanu reeves killing ninjas

decisions

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>What went wrong?
Its fans are using the anime movies as damage control to defend it, even though I'm pretty sure that the last movie is better than this.

They're also saying that it shouldn't be insulted because it's a kid's movie (using adult jokes).

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>posts this, knowing it's a meme
>Kek. You're like a homophobe who sucks black cock everyday.
At least i don't play games for children

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They didn't buy critics and tickets like Disney usually does.

So your problem is that these types don't admit race matters, not that these characters are white, black, green, etc?

Honestly probably Endgame. Too close

but you're on Yea Forums

>Yous guys said
fucking hell OP, wake up dude.

>Why did it underperformed?
EndGame exists and made 2.6 billion.
There your answer

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Disney spent money on marketing to make capeshit socially acceptable so that manchildren aren't scared of being seen watching entertainment for kids. It's also the reason why capeshit movies make money easily, marketing is everything.

I don't know many arachnophobia sufferers who have a history of bumping butts with spiders.
Homophobes can’t say the same.
Every time one crawls out of the woodwork, they get exposed as self hating bible thumpers or something.

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This is the best and shortest crit I've read on it. Coupled with the racial swap (which definitely puts it at odds with the asian market, you know, the ones still playing and watching pokemon) and the safe self-aware plot...
It definitely means they wanted the western market but didn't fully trust the IP so they went
>HEy look, Pokemon isn't weird at all haha! Pokemon battles? That's kiddie crap! Oh and here is Pikachu!

I mean... the Aipom were just generic crazy mutants. The giant Torterras could have been anything else. The Greninja didn't do any ninja crap they just threw energy balls all over the place. And Mewtwo was used for soul swapping instead of his more famous psychic powers; then the forest started trembling I thought it was Mewtwo just fucking the whole place up and I was hyping up to the very last second where they show it's just Torterra, I really expected Mewtwo to lift the forest into the sky.

My personal crit is that they fucked up not committing to nostalgia. They should have used the original music and opening while having more actual battles. But I guess you can say that's part of it not doing much with the Pokemon franchise.

no one likes pokmon

None of the kids in my family want to see it and I will be damned before seeing it alone.

>you know, the ones still playing and watching pokemon
>what are Amerifats

Superhero movies have been popular before Disney ever made one, idiot.

Asians hate niggers.

I used to watch anime when it was aired on tv and played caps and cards with pokemon on them. Only played gba games on phone years layers just to try why people liked it so much. This makes me casual as fuck consisting pokestuff and I saw the movie and thought it was fun. The main actor was miscasted horribly and mewto just v looked ridiculous but that's it.

Mewtwos CGI was lame

Charizard spit fire, squirtles douse fires, Pikachu uses electricity, flying pokemon fly, etc.

Yeah it would be interesting to see people doing their jobs, like Officer Jenny I'm sure she has tons of adventures. Or you know, TIM'S DAD WHO GOT HIRED AS A DETECTIVE TO TRACK DOWN AND CAPTURE A ROGUE MEWTWO, AFTER A WHILE HE CAUGHT ON THE EVIL PLAN OF THE ORGANIZATION AND INFILTRATED THE LAB TO FREE MEWTWO BUT APPARENTLY DIED AT THE END KILLED BY THE GRENINJA, WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE FOR A BITTERSWEET CLIMAX WITH MEWTWO AKNOWLEDGING HUMANS ARE GOOD AND TRANSFERRING HIS SOUL INTO PIKACHU WHO SACRIFICES HIMSELF.

That turned out longer than I expected but I'm buttblasted mad that THAT is the backstory for this shitty movie. This movie could have been called Detective Pikachu 2 and everyone would say it was a sequel that didn't do justice to the first one.
But at least if we had seen "Detective Pikachu Zero", the emotional beats on this one would hold some ground. I mean, no one felt a damn thing with Tim's flashbacks because we don't care about him nor his father and the movie didn't set it up properly.
Seriously, everything happened before this film was more interesting and actually Detective-like.

My first video game which my uncle bought me was pokemon red on game boy.

The first episode of pokemon aired on my first day of kindergarten.

This shit looks pretty lame, with the social justice casting on top of it.

Charizard was too small
Mewtwo looked shit in daylight
Not enough battles

I guessed the pikachu was his fucking dad the moment they didn't show his dads face in the flashbacks

Don't judge it based on the 'social justice casting'. Judge it on the bad acting. But it IS pretty funny.

I guessed the main guy instantly. Too obvious a red herring.

t. manchild

>Implying capeshit is not popular since the first Superman and
Batman movies came out.

How much is gonna drop by the third weekend? 54% is a big deal in my mind for its second weekend.

i preferred this movie to yours
>the emotional beats on this one would hold some ground.
haha keep working on your review writing user, eventually some z list website will publish them.

I've had this theory for a while that we're on the verge of another industrial era so the entertainment industries outside of porno and visceral sports like MMA are going to suffer.

Yea Forums is where chads dab on niggers and jannies

>chads
lol

Nice jab, though I have to remark that's not "my movie" but exactly what happened to Tim's dad. They could have worked better with that material I believe.

This meme is pathetic

> $150m Budget
> $287.4m by second weekend
> Sequel confirmed
> Multiple spin-off films in the works
> Highest rated video game adaptation
> Currently Sixth highest box office for a video game adaptation

Highest grossing video game adaptations;
> 1 - $433.5m - Warcraft
> 2 - $428.0m - Rampage
> 3 - $336.3m - Prince of Persia
> 4 - $312.2m - RE; Final chapter
> 5 - $300,2m - RE; Afterlife
> 6 - $287.4m - Detective Pikachu

By next weekend it will be the 3rd highest grossing video game movie and will have turned a profit of $100m+

> $287.4m by second weekend
Fucking false, try again
> Sequel confirmed
Yes
> Multiple spin-off films in the works
Only rumours, give a credible source or shut the fuck up

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what could they have done with what they had to make you relate to his relationship with his father?

/vp/ furfags are flooding this guy channel to give him deslikes only because he was one of few shit talking this garbage

youtube.com/watch?v=V2PqQrJzoAA

You're still making these threads obsessed faggot?

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Here are milestones, so you all can understand;

> $150m - Production covered
> $200m - Production/ Marketting covered
> $250m - Sequel confirmed
> $300m - Sequel fast tracked
> $350m - Spin-offs confirmed
> $400m - Mewtwo Spin-off fast tracked
> $450m+ - PokeKino Universe secured

Currently we sit at $287.4m. It's covered production/marketting budget and a sequel will be fast tracked when it passed the $300m mark this week.

This fucker only made 57 million on Endgame's fourth weekend. Things would be a lot different if it aired last weekend with DP.

Fuck off Joe.

Only have of that 287 is going back to the studio though. DP is going to be a financial bomb unless it develops some serious legs. Still, doubt it will be the end of it. It’ll drive a bunch of merchandise sales (which is where the Pokémon money comes from anyway), and I doubt they’ll be willing to give up on a Pokémon cinematic universe just yet.

Box Office Mojo is slow to update and does not have the weekend figures which you can find here;
m.the-numbers.com/movie/Pokemon-Detective-Pikachu-(2019)

>Only rumours, give a credible source
nintendoenthusiast.com/2019/05/13/detective-pikachu-writer-has-awesome-concept-for-jigglypuff-spinoff-film/

This, though originally taken as a joke, is confirmation that they are considering spin-off films.

In addition the Red/Blue prequel film is heavily teased in Detective Pikachu;
> Drug is known as 'R'
> 20 Years ago Mewtwo escaped and caused chaos in Kanto
> Images showing earlier Pokemon trainers
> Poster on a wall hinting at Steelix VS Articuno (Red is the only one who would ever have caught an Articuno)

Competing with Endgame was dumb. It probably would've broke $500 million any other time of year.

based reply

It was likely planned this way;
> Release Detective Pikachu near the biggest MCU movie
> If it bombs, you can tell people it's because of the MCU movie
> If it's succesful, you can claim the film was popular enough to survive against an MCU film in an industry of Superhero movies

It was a brilliant strategy. Remember that the highest grossing video game adaptation is Warcraft with $433.7m on a $160m budget. If it can get anywhere near to that while also being released near Endgame... well you have proof it's strong enough to be a franchise.

>rampage made 428m and is the second highest vidya movie ever
What a crazy time to be alive

The first showing of the city was really promising and looked good. Then things got kinda relegated to regular movie shlock, was a bit shit to be honest. The pokeymans looked good most of the time but they used too many literally-who non first gen ones for my non pokefag tastes.
Also a shame they had bill nigh and made him boring as anything, hope he got a nice paycheck out of it.

He should be blacker next film

Disney shill making the same kind of threads long before the movie was even released. It's just spam.

I don't know I just felt the flashbacks very fake and the movie was under 20 minutes.

negroid main character rather than white like the character was originally
i love pokemon, i own every mainline game version. i wont see a nigger movie though.

Pretty sure the opening was a glimpse at how they would make a Kanto movie. It all felt very 'Episode 1' with our main character told by a friend/mentor to try to capture a Pokemon only to have to flee from that enraged Pokemon.

It was definitely limited in regards to budget and designs - they had to rely on a lot of the starter Pokemon a lot of the time which i am guessing the in-universe explanation would be that Ryme City is a popular Kanto tourist location and Kanto trainers have to choose one of the three starters (Ash being an exception)

I feel this franchise deserves a shot at making at least a single film in Kanto with someone fighting and capturing Pokemon. If that film sucks, then let it die, but at least let us see that film. Dont let it die based on what is effectively a demonstration of how they can do IRL Pokemon and make them look convincing.

Yeah, makes sense. The MCU is in a weakened state at the moment. Pokemon is really the only franchise that could topple it

t. pseud incel that has let internet racism ruin his RL future

>he actually lives around subhumans
niggers can't ruin my life if i move away from them.

Know one knows who the fuck "Detective Conan" is and they don't give a shit even in Japan. Shit's fake USA shit like SEGA.

Dude, Spiderverse was a hit here and Pikachu had a strong opening.
In a related note, the movie is breaking by next weekend.

Also they haven't updated international bo yet

Doesn't matter, niggers will just move to be closer to you, until you have nowhere left to move, and then they will ruin your life, because that's what they do.

Fuck bill and his pc.

>SMT
Hey Hitler, stop using acronyms I don't recognize.

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Not him, but Shin Megumi Tensai.