I love this adaptation, but why did they have to ruin Gimli? We already had comedic relief with Merry and Pippin

Listen to the commentary and behind the scenes. Apparently audience loved snowboard-Legolas so much they had to build on it.

>elephant surfing
>"THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!"

the two themes combined beautifully

honestly even in the books gimli didn't do much past fellowship, had some cool moments in battle of the hornburg but thats it

Galadriel give Gimli three curl of her hair (something what she denied to her uncle Feanor).
Not sure about Moria, but yeah, evetually after War of the Ring dwarves took back Khazad'Dum

the hobbits are supposed to be funny? I just found them grating and wanted them buried in the shire so I didn't have to hear their trite cretinism and banana-brained emotional outbursts every fifteen minutes.
gimli was perhaps pushed a bit too much for comedy but his character overall added some dimension to the scenes he was in, felt like a living character instead of a background prop. excellent actor made the difference.

ASH NAZG DURBATULÚK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL,
ASH NAZG THRAKATULÚK AGH BURZUM-ISHI KRIMPATUL

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that ruined the scene for me.
floaty 3d animation that felt instantly out of place like the Spider-Man trilogy

Marry and Pippin have great moments of growth during two towers and especially return of the king.
But I can understand.

Because all manlets are jokes and the audience can literally not take a sub 5'9 dude seriously no matter what. Imagine an actual sub 5'9 twink trying to get all serious and dramatic. Just cringe.

idk I liked his scene in moria

Whys the bad guy language so much cooler than anything else?

why wouldn't he know that Moria was destroyed in the first place? it clearly happened a long time ago

It was just a twisted form of elvish

he knew in the books

Black speech is Klingon tier. Brainlet Tolkein could only invent 2 fully formed languages, Quenya and Sindarin, which he ripped off Finnish and Welsh respectively. Pleb barely came up with 20 words in Numenorean or Dwarvish.

did he? I don't remember that

I'm giving you a reply so no one else has to

a company of dwarves was sent to moria prior to the fellowship to retake it. it was common knowledge that it was lost, and most people assumed that the newly sent company died in their journey because they sent no message. gimli was not surprised at their failure in the books, just mournful

Not exactly, they knew Balin went to Moria and both, Gimli and Gandalf hoped to meet him when they decide to go through Moria

someone else on here had said that it had been 30 years since he had heard word of moria, and was less expectant of finding a warm welcome.
the scene with him in the film thinking his cousin would be there to shake his hand just behind the magically sealed door didn't make much sense to me considering everything inside had been dead for decades.

Dain beleived them most likely lost and he warned against the expedition (he'd looked into Moria when he slew Azog and saw that it had become an evil place) but they still probably had hopes of finding them alive. The Blocking of the channel to make the lake at the entrance was subtle but an obvious clue that they'd been killed by being trapped.

There was a huge time skip in the Fellowship novel that we didn't get in the film, so i'm not that surprised Gimli was still holding out hope in the movie.

30 year time gap?
so they left the shire, walked for 30 years and reached the cave?

No before that.
When Gandalf leaves Frodo in the beginning to do some research on the ring he only returns to the Shire 17 years .
Fucking lazy stoner wizard.

*17 years later

Reading the book that was so dumb. Even the fact that they spend months at Rivendell. I thought we were on a rush because Sauron is about to obliterate Gondor you fucking mong.

I'm sure you've invented numerous ways to jerk yourself off over the years

LE EPIC FUNNY REDDIT DWARF XDD

no one cared about Gondor, op. That's why Boromir went so mad.

Agreed, iirc they also dick around in Lothlorien for ages.

did you even read the books? they stall because they don't know where the fuck to go and how to go there

He wasn't a bumbling, dopey, cowardly comic relief sidekick in the books though.

That's all fun and dandy but dicking around in the forest for months is not going to help.

What exactly was he researching. He recognise the ring, then went to the beach, woke up 16 years later, then thought uh-oh and rushed around looking for books and asking old people about the stories of the first men.
They should have made the first scenes and released the rest of the film 17 years after then.

>feel like rewatching lotr trilogy
>remember all the annoying Arwen shit and decide not to

just use that for a piss or nap break

Why did they even need comic relief in a high fantasy story?

It’s 3 scenes dude

arwen is a qt and genuinely improves the films incel

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I love liv tyler but I feel like she was a big miscast

Liv Tyler is ugly as fuck.

For the kids and other brainlets I guess.
The portrayal of Gimli sucked, I liked Merry and Pippin though.

t. glorfindel

did you really not like the bit where gimli tries to ride the horse ?
what a cold heart you have

Hackson was an unapologetic elffag

They really should have kept him as a no fucks given warrior instead of a meme dwarf.
His drinking game with Legolas was great though.

>not loving the speech about the mortality of men
It's the most kino scene out of all of the series

he was normal warrior guy in the book
but the purpose of his character in his book was unironically about racial prejudice.

The elves are all racist as fuck to him. Most gimli stuff in the book is about that. If the film was actually accurate to his character people would be so upset here.

What was Gimlis miscegenation policy?

yeah unlike tolkein who wasn't gay for elves at all

I don't even want to know which race/species you are. Just leave.

He's kind of funny in the books but just in a "always down from some orc slaying" kind of way. But all of the changes they made were relatively minor. The cut out his bromance with Legolas, the added all that dumb shit with Elrond's daughter, they made Faramir into a dick, and so on and so fourth.

I just reread the books and I have to say that Sam is so fucking gay for Frodo that they really should have had him gobble down Frodos cock at the end of the film series.

hmm yeah the ironic thing is in the film frodo is potentially gay and sam isn't.

It’s completely unbelievable that he wouldn’t have known about the destruction of Moria. How could word of that not have gotten out?

The world was young, the mountains green,
No stain yet on the Moon was seen,
No words were laid on stream or stone
When Durin woke and walked alone.
He named the nameless hills and dells;
He drank from yet untasted wells;
He stooped and looked in Mirrormere,
And saw a crown of stars appear,
As gems upon a silver thread,
Above the shadow of his head.

The world was fair, the mountains tall,
In Elder Days before the fall
Of mighty kings in Nargothrond
And Gondolin, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away:
The world was fair in Durin's Day.

A king he was on carven throne
In many-pillared halls of stone
With golden roof and silver floor,
And runes of power upon the door.
The light of sun and star and moon
In shining lamps of crystal hewn
Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
There shone for ever fair and bright.

There hammer on the anvil smote,
There chisel clove, and graver wrote;
There forged was blade, and bound was hilt;
The delver mined, the mason built.
There beryl, pearl, and opal pale,
And metal wrought like fishes' mail,
Buckler and corslet, axe and sword,
And shining spears were laid in hoard.

Unwearied then were Durin's folk;
Beneath the mountains music woke:
The harpers harped, the minstrels sang,
And at the gates the trumpets rang.

The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dûm.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

He knows, or at least suspects and isn't very hopeful, in the books.

So does Gandalf but he's still like "TO THE MINES!!!" While Strider is like "Nigga, if we go down there then some people's goin' die"

I had to skip pretty much every poem and song. Like fuck me

they didn't cut out his bromance

They're so fucking butts to nuts after Lothlórien. Planning vacations together and sharing horses and all that. They're just bros in the movies.

Whaaaa
But they are some of the best bits?
I guess I am lucky that I have listened to the BBC audio drama of lord of the rings which gives me a better sense of the timing when I am reading them in the book. I will post some of my favs.

youtube.com/watch?v=qWBecwqNGkM

youtube.com/watch?v=xO4aaiftLuA

youtube.com/watch?v=bM6WzWaRZMs

Also I think its appropriate that songs are included considering the universe was created through one.

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I got that impression too. It’s weird that no one spoke up. That was such a mistake going there.

they basically had no other choice in the books

After the war Gimli took some of his people to live in Helm's Deep caves and dwelt there until Aragorn died. Then he took the ship to Valinor with Legolas.

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This is from memory so sorry if its a bit off but Aragorn says in response to Gandalf asking who will follow him
"I will if this last warning does not warn you, it is not of the ring, nor of us others that I am thinking now but of you Gandalf and I say to you if you pass the doors of Moria, beware!"

Gandalf also says a dwarf will be useful in the ruins of the dwarfs

There are a bunch of other quotes that confirms that they know the truth. But they really had no other options. Gap of Rohan was infested by Saruman, they were being harrased by wolves and the mountain had defeated them.

didn't gandalf used to be a dwarf before he resurected the previous time?

no

Does she ever smile?