>Source material isn’t really compelling enough to warrant a tv show. It seems like it’s trying to be smarter than the Wikipedia pages the lines are from
So that is the power of the famous equation. Cheers user.
Luke Hughes
I'm nostalgic for RBMK reactors now, whats wrong with me.
they should put these back in service and build more.
Nathaniel Johnson
No pet food, either.
Nicholas Carter
In real life Dyatlov was well aware about core destruction. It was on the gauges. No water flow, no pressure, control rods stuck. He didn't know about scale, but he knew that it was pretty bad. After walking around 4th block and seeing destruction firsthand he ordered to disable emergency pumps, because they were useless, water communications were nonexistent. This series partly based on "Chernobyl Notebook" which contains a lot of fiction, and not on real evidences. Dyatlov was a professional, but this series makes him look like a fanatic.
>solid Russian architectural design. >blown to pieces by some kind of oversized kettle.
lmao
Robert Morris
brilliant, maybe another one will have a melt down and then we can have even more disaster kino
Juan Scott
He was well aware the core exploded in the series as well.
Blake Wright
I find funny that the intro starts talking about not focusing on heroes and villains but then you have Miss Marvel and Doctor Incompetent right after that.
Legasov was a party man, he was selected because the government felt he could be trusted on some level not to stir up unnecessary commotion. This HBO series implies, thus far, that he was immediately for evacuation - when he in fact was not. His suicide the show says is from the horror and mis-justice, but in reality it was much more likely to be combined with guilt. I think the show should have showed Legasov as stuck between being a good government supporter and doing the right thing for the people , but ultimately making the right choices and being a good guy. Because that is more like the reality. Fomin and Brukhanov I think should have been showed as more caring but ultimately too scared to make the right step because of political pressures, where the show implies they are completely evil.
Surprised Yea Forumss bullshit detector isn't going off a little harder. The story of Chernobyl is very interesting, but this is not it.
Thoughts on the ending? I felt it was a little too happy, especially after the false reports of an explosion made it seem like there was some sort of horrible disaster that would kill everyone. It was kinda anticlimatic.
(The official podcast of the show is kino and explains a lot of the decisions that piss people off.)
Grayson Jenkins
>This is Intergalactic Director Bogdanoff. My neutron gland just picked up 3.6 roentgen signal. My face is growing, what the fuck have you bitches done?
Everyone who is interested in the Chernobyl disaster, take a look. This is the best channel about the disaster there is. It is called Telecon Studio. It has many high quality videos from the 80´s. Some also have commentary from a former rescueman who was there after the accident.
These have English subtitles. Have a nice weekend anons.
Nice quints, but I meant more in the "better the devil you know" kind of way
Cooper Cooper
>They entered the reactor building around 10:45 pm and found two mutilated men soaked with water: one clearly dead (Byrnes), the other moving slightly (McKinley) and moaning. With one entry per person and a 1-minute limit, a team of 5 men with stretchers recovered the operator who was still breathing around 10:50; he did not regain consciousness and died of his head injury at about 11 p.m. Even stripped, his body was so contaminated that it was emitting about 500 R/hr. holy shit
Manager Bryukhanov, I'm USSR. We were asleep. You don't get to list accountable individuals. They're not my day shift. Don't worry, the accident is well under control. And why would I inquire them? They were trying to run the tests. They work for the deputy chief engineer, the one in charge. DYATLOV????? Da. Get 'em on board, I'll call it in.
drinkingest fellers there is. I'd assume even if they didn't keep getting stuck with corrupt governments they'd still be drunks just because of how fucking shitty the weather is most of the time.
Is it true that they sell aftershave in old vodka bottles so people won't look trashy while drinking it
Adrian Cooper
The accident report I just filed with the Union lists burnt flesh, ionized air, spicy graphite here, but only 3.6 roentgens! First one to explain how a nuclear reactor works gets to stay on my aircraft! Who paid you to claim a RBMK reactor could explode? *BANG* He didn't explain so good. Who wants to try next? Tell me about graphite, why is it on the roof? Alotta misinformation for a hired deputy director! OR PERHAPS HE'S WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WOULD REDUCE POWER TO 200MW BEFORE PERFORMING A SAFETY TEST. At least you aren't delusional, who are you? IT DOENSN'T MATTER WHO WE ARE, WHAT MATTERS IS OUR CLEANUP PLAN. NO ONE CARED WHO I WAS UNTIL I CAUSED THE WORST NUCLEAR ACCIDENT IN HISTORY. If I hit the SCRAM button, will you die? IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY NOT GREAT, BUT NOT TERRIBLE. You're a mistaken comrade. FOR U-235. Was getting sent to the infirmary part of your plan? OF COURSHE! THE REACTOR REFUSED OUR CONTROL RODS IN FAVOR OF STEAM. WE HAD TO PUMP WATER INTO A DITCH. Nothing, we did noting wrong! Well congradulations, you've gotten radiation into the atmosphere! Now what's the next step of your 5 year plan? CRASHING THIS CONTINENT...WITH NO SURVIVORS! No! This can't be happening! I'm in charge here! >pilot begins to fly around the plant roof NO! THEY EXPECT A CHOPPER IN THE WRECKAGE BROTHER! Have we started the fire? YES! THE RADIATION RISES! CALM DOWN LEGASOV, NOW'S NOT THE TIME FOR EVACUATION, THAT COMES LATER.
can someone explain to me why BRUHkhanov was prosecuted sure he downplayed the accident but he got his information from people who were supposed to be experts inb4 soviets just wanted someone to blame
He was the plant director or some shit, so he was automatically responsible if something happened. That's pretty much the job description, he didn't have to do anything specific, he just had to keep shit running and sign orders.
Dylan Gutierrez
probably one of those assholes who thinks he has never done anything wrong
He was a nuclear engineer and there was more than enough evidence available to him to determine the disaster was much worse than Dyatlov said. By taking Dyatlov at face value he became complicit in his mismamagement.
Hunter Gomez
capable of absorbing many neutrons without fissioning
Jose Cruz
>3 volunteers had to pull a spock preventing a full blown thermonuclear explosion why didn't they use those three retards to do the job? I think it would have been poetic justice no?
Hey, who took that picture of the Elephant's Foot? Was it one of the three that went in this episode, or did that picture get taken later?
Matthew Diaz
Neutron poison. High cross section for neutron absorption
Daniel Gonzalez
I wish I was RBMK
Jackson Walker
>I'm gonna kill myself in five years >does it in two What did he mean by this?
Juan Bennett
Are you implying they should rewrite history or are you confused why they didn't send the three incompitents who wouldn't even know what to do in there?
John Roberts
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT IF YOU SHRANK DOWN AND SHE FOUND YOU AND PUT YOU BETWEEN HER BUTTCHEEKS TO ABSORB HER FARTS AND ASS SWEAT ALL DAY LONG!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOULDN'T THAT BE SO FUNNY!!!!!! XDXDXDXDXDXD
Benjamin Cooper
It was taken 10yrs later
Easton Murphy
kek at the music
Isaiah Adams
Crusader vehicle at chernobyl driving at incredibly hihg speed
No I was talking about real life, but yeah it makes sense and your right. Outside of banging on a table these retards would have fucked things up further.
Series about the Japanese nuclear disaster when? I want to see worried qts!
Cooper Ross
There was no uranium. To say that there was is a violation of the principles of Marxism and makes one a threat to public safety. Are you a Western puppet, or just an incompetent fool?
Christopher James
Uranium ore isn't quite as radioactive as its processed byproduct.
Anthony Bailey
Why do you think uranium in its natural form is dangerous?
Evan Smith
Why didn't "The lid is off, the stack is burning, I saw it!" become a meme?
wait the core exploded because they wanted to test if they can start the diesel engines fast enough in the case of a grid black out. why do you need the electrical grid to power your cooling pumps? you are sitting in a npp generating like 4 GW of electrical energy. that should be enough to run some cooling pumps
Exactly. Making this guy out to be an immediate hero is just dishonest. He was a good guy, but he worked within the system and played it. He was NOT for immediate evacuation like the show says he was.
Brayden Smith
Because these mental midgets would rather repeat the same memes from the first thread than try something new.
Oliver Jones
This. I can picture it. >liquidators surveying the basement, trying to get an idea of how long they have to dig the reinforcement tunnel >turn a corner, Geiger counter starts rumbling >liquidator holds the probe in front of him, trying to minimize exposure, no visual, need to confirm the presence of >wait >is that a light on in that room >probe passes through the doorway, Geiger counter SCREAMS >liquidator turns and bolts as the camera pans over to a softly glowing mound of dark red goop
You use grid power for cooling pumps, if it fails you switch to generator power. But that takes some time to transfer, so they wanted to confirm that they could use latent steam in the turbine for power to hold them over while the transfer switch did its thing.
Adam Morgan
BUT NOBODY WROTE IN THE MANUAL THAT THE REACTOR CAN EXPLODE
you pretty much need to just become a meme ambassador and spam things in every thread for them to become memes. I've been saying there's a lot more memeable lines that we just missed because it's really like 4 people doing all the screencapping and stuff.
Tissue actually does block Alpha and Beta radiation both, they're very weak in that regard. Can burn your skin but thats about it on the surface. Just don't get it inside your lungs or intestines, thats where its very lethal. Gamma radiation is what penetrates pretty much everything though.
Jack Powell
Too much of it
Mason Lee
It's not worth the risk of having nuclear waste raining over a population center.
>Uh oh our steam generators are out, uh oh our turbine is out for repair they wanted to use the rotational energy from the steam turbine (as it wound down under residual steam pressure) to power the diesel engines. you are in shock, report to the infirmary
>ZOMG these are NUCLEAR BURNS!!! >Their cloths are contaminated!! >TAKE THEM OFF!! >touches hot clothes bare handed >gets burns on hands Why did she not think of this?
Pripyat actually looked like quite a comfy town to live in.
Gavin Lee
>He was NOT for immediate evacuation like the show says he was Actually there was argument between physicians, who insisted there's no reason to evacuate, and physicists, who insisted on evacuation. Legasov mentions Victor Sidorenko as the most passionate evacuation supporter, but he's not in the show.
Nolan Baker
lads, if you haven't, you should read Voices of Chernobyl. I was reading it before the series began, and it is a kino complement.
Samuel Thompson
>be firefighter >get called to put out a fire >get extra milk rations
FLY ME OVER THAT BURNING REACTOR I WANT TO HIT IT WITH MY SWORD
Andrew Jones
>Why did she not think of this? They knew but they didn't have a choice. This is Soviet Ukraine circa the 1980s. They didn't exactly have boxes of rad-proof gloves laying around. They probably didn't even have latex gloves.
Some of them knew. People weren't quite aware of what radiation actually does, Chernobyl disaster itself was the first really big scare of how dangerous radiation can get.
she didnt get burns from the heat moron, also she probably didnt expect them to be that irradiated, nobody really knew what to expect >you are dealing with something that has never occured on this planet before did you miss that line
Camden Myers
>wait... what exactly is half life? Radioactivity requires energy. Radioactivity itself decays the object and eventually the irradiated object runs out of energy. Half life is exactly that, how long it takes for this process to cut the radiation output in half.
Robert White
Core-chan is like a bullet. She won't stop firing in your dick for another 50 thousand years.
Eli White
>I get that but they didn't have medical forceps or other hand free / extending tools for the job? Imagine how long it would take to drag four or five fire departments' worth of flame-retardant clothes into a basement with forceps and calipers.
Jason Edwards
>Why don't they decay to gold then? why doesn't what decay to gold
Nathan Nguyen
damn, so even when I shit out a nice log after taking pepto it still takes over a billion years to break down in my septic?
Let's say you have 100 atoms of atomium-69. If the half life is 50 years, in 50 years you'll have 50 atoms of atomium-69. In 100, you'll have 25, etc etc.
Leo Young
just a few pensicils user
James Hernandez
>when a chill night shift turns into a national disaster
You don't get sunburns on your skin because the sunlight is hot. You get sunburns because of the UV-radiation. Now imagine dust and water can cause you sunburns too and you get what liquidators had to deal with in the irradiated zone.
Ayden Powell
5,000 tonnes. And 50 helicopters.
Joseph Cook
>tfw had to drop the show after the Legasov objecting to adjournment to meeting scene because confrontation/injustice/bully scenes make me so uncomfortable
Anyone know this feel?
Liam James
>asks for iodine >instantly recognizes radiation burns >kind of forgot about the cloths themselves being radioactive
Jace Russell
wouldn't the water flowing in/out of the containment shell be lightly irradiated? or does that have something to do with bing far enough from the reactor to not nab any gamma? or do i have it all wrong?
Jace Baker
Helicopter's blades touched the crane cable.
Aaron Long
Do not spread disinformation. Are you being paid by the capitalists?
Alexander Fisher
This show is great. Thought it was kinda weird at first with the English/American actors serving in a Soviet Ukraine nuclear reactor using well known English expressions, but after a while you just embrace it.
Furthermore, Jared Harris is an actor whose body of work I famously always enjoy
Was Chernobyl an American attack on a Soviet civilian target?
Joseph Smith
>aesthetic concrete coffin >frogs swoop in and make some ugly hangar
Nicholas Moore
If your fuel elements aren't leaking you would have only minimal activation of the water
Luis Nguyen
Now imagine if even one of them didn't have the iron testicles to give the bureaucrats a reality check at risk of imminent death.
David Hall
See I don't fully buy this. If the waste we encapsulated in a strong enough vessel and launched at such a trajectory where it would fall in the ocean if an explosion, controlled or otherwise, happened at any point during the ascent, it could be done safely, and at less cost than building underground storage sites. This could work for decades and stop after either fusion or viable breeder reactors get worked out.
Adam Myers
If course it was haarp
Anthony Rivera
5 packs of Ticonderoga pencils should do, has to be the that brand though
Connor Lopez
No, notice the water leaving the shell is not the same as the water entering the core. It's a thermal relay system. Irradiated water transfers the heat to non-irradiated water.
Ryan Wood
Imagine if those water reservoirs exploded. Whew lad!
Blake Williams
Are you implying that Khodemchuk was an imperialist saboteur?
Levi Jackson
>all those lights looking like eyes and control rods
Dominic Young
HEY REDDIT FRIEN!
Jose Jackson
No, I'm saying that the explosion was obviously caused by an airstrike.
Julian Sullivan
>If the waste we encapsulated in a strong enough vessel and launched at such a trajectory where it would fall in the ocean if an explosion, Problem is rockets have the habit of exploding or crashing down very soon after launching in the air, so they don't have the time to drop anything in the ocean. Not to mention the rocket exploding in the atmosphere spreads that radioactive shit far and wide hundreds of kilometers downwind.
Even if it would be perfectly safe, it would be incredibly costly because entering our orbit is incredibly difficult and always requires a fuckton of fuel. We would need some kind of railgun-future tech that just flings the capsules into space so hard they leave the orbit or something.
Samuel Reyes
Impossible, you are delusional
Matthew Morales
>matter is just a word for atoms t. brainlet. Matter is everything that has rest mass, which includes the elemental subatomic particles that make up atoms.
Hudson Stewart
redpill me on the radiation demons. did they come from inside the core?
Hudson Hernandez
Nowadays its relatively safe, you only get a lethal dose if you hang out in the same room for 45 minutes. But at the time when the very first pictures were taken, you could only spend around 1-2 minutes at most in the room, the photo itself got obscured to shit thanks to the radiation.
Ryder Turner
>thread about tv show makes anons on a mongolian throat singing forum all discuss nuclear physics, the danger or not danger of nuclear reactors and learn about things
True or not their blind belief in their system is very amusing. Nothing can go wrong since the state does not allow it. Anyone directly stating that something is critically wrong is delusional and promptly sent to the infirmary. Shoe factory workers outrank nuclear scientists. Comrade, ignore massive beam of light in sky and taste of metal! Continue work on reactor 5! (which they actually did for a whole day while it burned...)
Take a look at the sun. It radiates sunlight with the force of 1 quintillion nuclear bombs per second. Thats where most radiation demons in our solar system comes from.
Ian Wright
Oh and their only almost working radiation meter/geiger counter is locked in a safe that only party members can acess...
So you're saying that the Sun is one giant orgy of plasma succubi?
Chase Hill
Two of the radiation sickness fatalities were the nuclear plant guards who spent their entire shift guarding the premises, unaware they're being slowly poisoned to death in the process.
>Now to prevent a shitstorm, the Admin Committe has sent a detachment of jannies to /RBMK/. >How many jannies? >Between 2 and 4 men. >What's really going on here? How much of a shitstorm is it? >There's mild shiposting but it's limited to the sjw posts themselves. >No they aren't! >Excuse me? >You saw anons core-chan-posting. You saw anons bitching about accents. There's more trolling than they're saying! >We have photos here, we have facts! I say we start a new thread! >Gentlemen! Please, please. Iodine QT is here. Do you think I'd keep posting her if it wasn't safe? >user, the thread is autosaging! >The Dunning-Kruger effect. Completely normal phenomenon. It can happen with minimal shitposting. TAP!TAP!TAP! >I wonder how many of you know the name of this place. We all call it /RBMK/, of course. >The Kinobyl General Thread! And how proud would Moot be of you all tonight. Especially you, young user and the passion you have for the anons.
Because lighter elements dont decay into heavier ones
Caleb Hernandez
>Tsar papa, Russia mama.
Pretty simple doctrine if you ask me this is what get them through.
Aiden Richardson
>Suffers from metal fatigue in the reactor vessel The EPR is a shit design.
Joshua Gutierrez
She was in a hurry to help the firefighters you git. Also just because you know that radiation burns are a thing doesn't mean that you know that you literally shouldn't touch those clothes for a single second.
Those uniforms are now sealed in that basement because of how much radiation they still emit. How was she supposed to know that it's that bad? She just knew that it's bad and she was there to help.
Chase Wright
Is that real? how retarded can you get....
Jaxon Scott
Wrong there is no "elephants foot" the Americans faked the picture in their Hollywood film studio
Angel Turner
>True or not their blind belief in their system is very amusing It was equal parts true believer bugmen and the kind of people who just put their head down and did the work. In the absence of religion you might be surprised how quickly the State becomes God.
They didn't know that specifically at first. In the show the person on the phone just started unloading all the stuff the world knew after the release of the American satellite images. IRL that wasn't until April 29th. The Frankfurt thing was May 1st.
