BRAVO MARVEL...... TRULY UNCANNY VALLEY-ESQUE

BRAVO MARVEL...... TRULY UNCANNY VALLEY-ESQUE

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haha he looks like a sociopath on the right
who would trust that mofo

wasn't the whole point of this that it was a computer simulation?

i meant left*

spooky

Will this unironically be the future of filmmaking? CGI de-aging of actors? You could keep Ryan Gosling his current age forever using CGI.

yes, they're even bringing musicians back from the dead

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Sometimes, dead is better

Looks great to me!

not gunna lie, the realism of Professor Hulk in the diner scared the shit out of me

how did they manage to make one of the most handsome guys ever look so creepy and off looking

Only a matter of time before a 3D printed Michael Jackson golem escapes lab confinement and goes on a rape spree to end all rape sprees. How do we prevent this?

Make that as a film.
Throw in a home alone gag where the golem tries breaking into the home alone house.

Blumhouse or A24 are already on it with a thinly veiled impersonation.

Why does he have cat eyes?

There'll be an entirely new landed gentry type aristocracy, but instead of their great grandfathers being some knight or robber-baron they were Kurt Russell or Jackie Chan. They'll keep renting out the rights of their forefathers images to keep the family perpetually well off. Actors are already making sure to copyright their likenesses to make sure companies can't just use it once they're dead.

CGI spectacles such as big fancy superhero fights and otherworldly Science Fiction planets no longer amaze the modern movie goer. The future of trying to impress the masses will be digitally de-aging actors or seamlessly bringing them back from the dead.

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I like it, i don't give a fucking shit

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He was really handsome, what the fuck? Why is he so ugly now? How is that possible? Disturbing.

South Park did that already

oh boy wait util you learn that people age, including you...hahaha that realization will hit you like a tank

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no stop i have good genes i'm not white

What is South Park?

Young Michael Douglas in Endgame looked better

I truly was impressed in GoTG that Kurt Russell looked just like he did in "Used Cars" for the flashback.

Why contain it?

>TFW 35 and am starting to make out what I'm gonna look like when I'm old by studying the lines that are starting to form on my face.

"The Congress" is basically about just that. An aging actor sells her likeness to a film studio and it plays a major role in the future virtual/chemical society. She loses all rights over her own appearance and is helpless when they use it for means she didn't expect.

>Original cast of Star Wars eventually dies
>Disney doesn't reuse their youthful images in future SW movies
>instead we get decades of Rey, Poe, and Finn
LMAO

They basically just smoothed out his wrinkles. I could do that in Photoshop.

I didn't know Kurt Russell was going to be in GOTG2 because I never watch trailers or that kind of stuff. When I first saw him I thought they'd cast someone that looked like him and then made him look even more like 80s Kurt with the hair and all as a joke about Starlord imagining his dad as an action movie star. Then I realised they'd actually gotten Kurt and that he was going to be in the whole movie when he spoke.

In a still photo, sure.

The system LolaFX have for mapping and tracking the face and applying the younger version of it on top is massively complicated and always requires custom fine tuning. Doing it to this degree is an enormous endeavour, it's why you don't see it that often, even in the Marvel movies they typically have it jappening in one just scene. It's become a gimmick they keep going back to because of how surprising it is and that they can afford to keep doing it.

This is the same studio that secretly clean up actors' facess all across the industry when they start getting old and self-conscious. Hiding a few wrinkles for vanity's sake and recreating the entire face takes not nearly the same amount of effort.

S'COOL

This amazed me in the cinema, at least until she smiled and spoke.

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Final Fantasy:A Scanner within?

How demeaning do you think going in for a scan like this must be?
>I'm actually needed for something?! Finally
>oh, they're just want to use my face to recreate the youthful, superior version of me

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It's getting better, but the mouth still makes it too obvious it's CGI. Hopefully in the next 10 years they can fix that.

>demeaning

1, Sean became a drug addict and ruined her career on her own, 2, she's getting PAID to look young again in a movie

The close-up shot was remarkable

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They did a pretty good job of this in BR2049
I think I read they used some combination of old footage with CGI to make it less uncanny valley-like

no it was all CGI

Oh wow probably the best example I've seen of this being used. Of course whenever they speak it ends up looking like a computer game, but in the next 5 years the technology will probably be flawless.

I don't know if it's that simple. I've long posited that CGI often looks bad not because of how real they can or can't manage to get the rendering to look, but instead because of sloppy animation by rushed and/or simply bad animators.

I think the only way to get digital animation make that final leap into looking flawless would be to employ the use of an AI. Have a human do his own pass on the animation, then have an AI (technically a GAN, I guess) go over it doing a sort of "plausibility pass" based on having consumed a massive amount of source footage of humans doing those sorts of things.

Like this but more specific and with no realtime processing required:
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(please bear with the utterly uncharismantic narration)

Are you essentially describing a more advance version of deepfake?

>implying deepfakes aren't just darpa leftovers of the real technology
Anyway, as far as movies are concerned the other guy is right. It's not that CGI can't look real, it's that entire scenes are now CGI composites so it gets rushed.

The only thing I thought was off was the eyes. Too shiny or something, compared to the first movie.

>TFW when everyone in my family looks younger than their age
Feels pretty good.

I don't know, maybe you could say that but I would think not really. Deepfake is just attempting to transcribe aparticular image to an existing movement, , besides the complicated "learning the new face from various angle" part, it's a simple raster based technique, not nearly as complicated as 3D animation and my idea is that it'd be movement created from scratch by an animator, checked against large samples of similar data. Thing is, to do that you'd need video data, I don't think you can realistically motion capture everything, especially not the finer details of human skin, which is where the uncanniness comes from.

Like for example, with digital Rachael the most glaring problem is the movement of the mouth. The recreation needs both naturalistic movement (animation), and also naturalistic interaction between the lips (simulation), which is insanely difficult. So you need your AI to have good enough computer vision that it can know what it's looking at in thousands of videos of people talking, not merely "what looks right", but also the physical shapes and movements of those lips in a 3D space, in order to fine-tune not just the final image post-render (like you would with a raster-based deepfake), but to actually incorporate what it's learned into the animation pre-render, since it'll be more useful and versatile that way.

Thing is it might actually need a decently real looking render to be able to check what it's doing against real footage if it's going to act like a GAN, but that might not be too much of a problem, we can render pretty-good-but-not-quite-final looking rough CGI really fast nowadays.

they made his eyes too light, especially the left one, it looks fucking retarded. he has the darkest brown eyes in real life, clearly.

no shitty cgi will EVER capture his beauty
he is the most handsome man there was i just want someone that looks exactly like him

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I'm not involved in these fields, by the way, I'm just really interested in it, so my proposed methodology might be massively inefficient. It just occurred to me that the best way to teach this GAN might be to do what they do in the beginning of this webm , have the human VFX artists with a robust 3D model of a person recreate filmed footage of that person, and just do it over and over and over and have the AI observe every step of the process.

Then again, that too sounds massively inefficient.

That's by LolaFX, though, they don't CG render a whole new digital Robert Downey Jr, they just apply extensive "digital makeup" to the existing one, so unless his old haggard face cast unfortunate shadows on his eyeballs that needed to be removed, his eyes are likely the one thing in that image that's actually original.

dude just look it at it, you have to admit the left eye looks seriously wrong, half of it is blue

The most amazing thing about the neural network technique is that it's closer to the concept that a human brain can dream up all of this convincingly. Within our lifetimes we will be able to ask an artificial neural network to dream up whatever we want. Now excuse me i need to go click on some crosswalks to help a neural network.

What a shame we missed his prime and a good 15 years of kino performances due to his druggery.

I don't know what to tell you, dude.

>For the scene in Civil War, the process started during production with Downey performing the scene. "Instead of completely replacing the actor with a digital double, this method allowed us to retain the actor's performance and nuances," Trent Claus, visual effects supervisor at Lola VFX, tells The Hollywood Reporter. "Then we began to adjust the on-set footage of Tony Stark through digital compositing."

>That process is akin to using Photoshop on a still image. Says Claus: "It is a similar process to Photoshop that uses some similar tools, but unlike Photoshop which is done on a single image, we have 24 frames per second of footage.

>"Every feature of the face and body needed to be addressed in some fashion," he says of the work that went into creating the youthful Tony. "One thing that happens to all of us is that the skin of the face gradually lowers in certain areas, and needs to be 'lifted' back to where it was at the age in question. But other changes are incredibly subtle, such as increase in the way light reflects off the sheen of the skin, a reduction in the appearance of tiny blood vessels under the surface of some parts of the face, or more blood flow in the cheeks giving them that familiar youthful 'glow.' "

>De-aging a character by a span of 25-30 years can affect skin texture and complexion and can involve characteristics such as bone structure or posture, Claus explains.

They don't say anything about the eyes, I don't think eyeballs age particularly, although you have "Every feature of the face and body needed to be addressed in some fashion" going for you.

It's amazing but also scary. There's a guy who does deepfakes that also includes voice synthesis. These people and the people developing the software always go for politicians for some reason, like... they need to be recognisable in order to be convincing, sure, but they could just be a celebrity. Instead they go for politicians, like a tacit admittance of "Haha! I'm contributing to the development of an existential nightmare future where no one can trust anything they see! I'm doing this willingly! Despite being aware of the potential consequences! Haha!!"

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My only hope is that they're simultaneously creating systems that help identify such fakes. I mean they're GANs, so in a sense they're already doing that by its very nature.

>soulless vs. soul
He looks like a video game character kek

I'm hetero, but he looked pretty cute in Chances Are.

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He lost part of his salary in a insurance for the movie studios.

i know a guy who looks like rdj irl and he's also 6'3 or something stupid like that and i want him to be my boyfriend so much it hurts me

tits or gtfo

At least hologram Mike didn't diddle kids.

>gay men need tits now

whats the point i'll never have rdjfu