/RBMK/ - Chernobyl General

A Million Billion Trillion

>the kids playing in the radioactive fallout

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Just got back from draining the tanks under the reactor. Feeling like 400 rubles!

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The 400 rubles story is a lie, user.

Fun Fact: All Three in real life survived, one died in 2005 of unrelated heart failure, I really hope they don't ham them in the show and have them crawling out dying

Belarus to Ukraine is about a 6 hour drive, so not terribly unreasonable.

And Chernobyl/Pripyat is right in the middle, so if she got the reading in the morning, got to Moscow late afternoon, then got to Pripyat late at night it's not entirely unreasonable

i'm sorry, minsk to pripyat, either way, doable especially in a country with as few cars per person as the USSR

stop spreading misinformation comrade

The Virgin culture warrior
>Whines endlessly
>Focuses on bit character despite having low screen time
>Derails threads with pointless shit posting
>Thinks he's smart and edgy for hating feminism but is really just repeating sceptic memes
>Is delusional
>Doesn't have sex
The Chernobylsseur
>Enjoys his kino without letting minor roles distract him
>Posts plenty of memes an OC and contributes to show discussion
>Helps other anons with webms and screen grabs
>Does it himself
>Recognises graphite despite not knowing much about reactors
>Has sex

RADIATION EXPOSURE IS NO GUARANTEE A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL WILL DEVELOP CANCER

ITS ABOUT THE AGGREGATE RATES, CHERNOBYL KILLED MILLIONS
TO SAVE FACE__

>girls
>driving

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stop spreading misinformation comrade

Someone turn this into reactor-chan pls

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>The biggest and most artificial contrivance of the show is the creation of a fictional character, a Belarusian scientist played by Emily Watson who takes a suspicious radiation reading in Minsk and magically, preposterously takes over the story. She’s everywhere at the same time, forcing herself onto the investigatory commission, sitting in on meetings with Gorbachev, raiding government archives, interviewing engineers in their hospital beds, single-handedly uncovering the secret history of the faulty reactor

nytimes.com/2019/05/03/arts/television/review-chernobyl-hbo.html

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You will never pass

REMINDER

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Please fuck off. Lets discuss the show, not fling shit every fucking thread. Please.

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Not found it yet

Read Ananenko's interview yourself:
souzchernobyl.org/?section=101&id=2440
pastebin.com/Fiihk2gP

you mean the hand right? Because you're clearly delusional if you think she'd let you be in charge

>it's only 3.6 rontgen

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3*10^27 bullets

yeah, the last thread saving grace was the user going over the nuclear reactor types and the windscale fire.

RBMK was a mistake and should've never been built

Yeah the hand. I wanna put Boris’s face in it

This post was written by a woman.

FIRST ONE TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW NUCLEAR REACTORS WORK GETS TO STAY ON MY WHIRLY BIRD

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what are you on about comrade, reactor is fine. so fine, in fact, we expect them to continue operation until 2034.

LMAO BASED

>WOMEN
>EVER RECOVERING
I DONT THINK SO SWEETY :^)

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honestly the biggest problem that led to chernobyl wasn't the RBMK itself, it was the culture of secrecy in the soviet nuclear industry, and the USSR as a whole for that matter, a national paranoia coupled with a national inferiority complex is what led to the explosion that night

LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A COMMITTEE APPOINTED SCIENTIST

This dude is about to get fired

user, but they still work perfectly fine. Some without any modifications.

I can explain recurrence but first I'll have to explain recurrence.

SHE(HE) WISHES

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where do i watch when its done airing?
netflix gonna pick this up?

here you go senpai

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>I STARED STRAIGHT INTO HER
>I SAW THE CORE

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Yeah, sure, it's not like Kurchatov Institute and HydroProject were trying to cover their asses.

Just finished The Terror.

What the FUCK was this guys problem?

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probably not, HBO is fairly clingy with their shows. If you don't want to pay them for it torrents are really it

>>>/infirmary/

outside of hbo's shit, the best you can hope for is being able to rent/buy it via amazon

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The design wasn't at fault (though it could have been better) the issue was that no one could talk about the problems to fix it.

The RMBK with the safety modifications is, without me being joking, one of the best designs out there when it comes to producing clean energy for a reasonable price.

if only you knew how bad this .gif is.

homosexuality

THE GUY WEARING THE SUIT OF FORKS WAS THE BEST

CMON BITCH EAT ME I DARE YOU

IS HE IN CHERNOBYL TOO? ITS LIKE THEY JUST TRANSPOSED THE WHOLE CAST FROM THE ARCTIC

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>g-g-guys the Soviets. They are bad, g-g-guys
>Anyone who says otherwise is a virgin, g-g-g-g-uise

How bad is it, on a scale from 0 to 3.6?

>NY times
>hating stronk womyn
I gotta lay off the feed water bros... Think I'm seeing things...

>that shadow on his body
lol

4/26 blaze it faggot

I spent the WHOLE FUCKING time during the Terror shitposting ignoring it and I'm the worst kid of sorry. That show was SO kino. Forkjacketman is THE ideal man.

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3.6

Not great, not terrible

is that why there were two additional incidents in 1991 and 1999 at chernobyl alone

Could be worse Comrade

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I like women.

>mfw it's only 3.6 at the core

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>WHIRLY BIRD

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They don't like you back.

I dunno everyone with a big mustache looks the same to me. it's like a whole cast of italian chefs

if we're being real
I like women better then men

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ITS LITERALLY THAT EGREGIOUS, THAT EVEN THE TIMES IS PUTTING ITS NAME ON HATING THIS MARYSUE

FUCKING IMAGINE HOW LAUGHABLE THINGS ARE GONNA GET

I LIKE EM TOO

BEDROOM AND KITCHEN
END OF, SIMPLE AS

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was it autism?

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how did they get all those old busses
matter fact how did they get all that old shit
the budget for this show must be huge

have sex

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6 million eвpeeв, comrade.

I really liked this scene. Nice visual storytelling.

apparently they just filmed it in pripyat's sister city, which still looked very 60's-esque, and they used Chernobyl's sister plant for exteriors and modelling the interiors.

>new york times
Reminder that the New York Times is literally wrong about everything they review
nytimes.com/1982/06/25/movies/the-thing-horror-and-science-fiction.html
>''The Thing,'' which opens today at the Rivoli and other theaters, is too phony looking to be disgusting. It qualifies only as instant junk.

That shit is dirt cheap. There are still hundreds of old LIAZ buses that noone wants to buy. I bet they just rented them from a bus-park somewhere in Kiev.

City: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabijoniškės

Chernobyl's sister plant: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignalina_Nuclear_Power_Plant

is reagan gonna be in it?

based

>mfw turns out it's 15,000 at the core lol

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That shit is everywhere in the former eastern bloc lmao

Do they confuse dosimeter and survey meter/Geiger counter in the script? I thought dosimeters were more collective/total radiation exposure vs a realtime strength reading.

how much?

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yeah, they got bruce campbell to play him

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I'm trying but she keeps struggling

I'm confused though. Didn't Trump call the NYT the enemy of the people? Why are you sharing misinformation on this thread comrade?

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>I'll shit in your mouth
you're 12, calm down sweetie.

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THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
I'M IN CHARGE HERE

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No reason why he would be in the show, but he might be mentioned if they show Gorbachev's speech.

youtube.com/watch?v=0k3wnXBE5S0

youtube.com/watch?v=gyZDZCGQJf8

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreev_Bay_nuclear_accident

The drums were suspended underwater from massive chains, which were attached to consoles a certain distance from each other to avoid an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction from starting. The water served as biological protection. The drums were placed underwater using the chains and a crane cart, but due to the construction's unreliability, drums often fell to the bottom of the pool. As a result, spent nuclear fuel drums dangerously piled up at the bottom.

One of the Andreev Bay workers recalls:

The first time I came there, I was shocked: I have never seen such a nightmare, did not even conceive it was possible. Just imagine an enormous black windowless building atop of a cliff. Entry into the building #5 was decorated by deformed trucks previously used for carrying nuclear fuel and half-torn-down heavy gates. Inside, the building was dilapidated, electric equipment in dangerous condition, the roof letting through sights of the Aurora Borealis, and, most terrifyingly, colossal beta particle contamination levels and travelling gamma waves reflected from plates and walls. Building #5 was completely radioactive inside. If a drop of water happened to fall on your head, you had to be decontaminated for a long time, since the drop contained tens of thousands of beta particles.

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>do you feel in charge?

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About something other than this.
It illustrates that even the NYT sees it as stupid.

yes i do

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No, but there will be black female composite character representing international nuclear and scientific community who will show stupid ruski how to do their job.

would be cool even if it was a phone call a la FDR in darkest hour

I'm dating a freaky scientist chick who basically has a Christina Hendricks body. We're gonna start watching this together. And have sex.

AHHHHHHHHHHH

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IMAGINE BEING SUCH A BRAINLET THAT YOU COMPARE A SIMPLE TELLING OF EVENTS FROM SOMEONE WHO ALREADY GOT TO SEE THE EPISODES

VERSUS SOME EXCERPTED OPINION SENTENCE ABOUT THE SUBJECTIVE QUALITY OF THE SPECIAL EFFECTS IN A MOVIE

THIS IS NOT HOW YOU DISCREDIT A REVIEW OR A SOURCE, GO BACK TO SCHOOL DISCORD

OH AND DILATE IF ITS TIME, HOW DOES THE SCHEDULING WORK AGAIN?

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No, they don't but there is a confusion between Russian naming of what is Geiger sensor/counter dosimeter and radiometer.

Have sex

>dont trust the NYT
>until their bloggers agree with you

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>AHHHHHHHHHHH

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Get her on a treadmill, instead.

>The right-hand pool in building #5 started leaking in February 1982. Finding cracks in the metal coating required diving into the pool, which was out of the question due to the gamma radiation levels in the vicinity of the nuclear waste drums reaching 17,000 R/h. An attempt to eliminate the leak was made by pouring in 20 sacks of flour, thus filling the cracks with dough.

>pouring in 20 sacks of flour, thus filling the cracks with dough.

>filling the cracks with dough.

>dough.

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dude, isn't she fat?
Why are you dating a fat scientist?
Science is not working for her/him user

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He's dead isn't he?

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>There are retards ITT that think the core could explode

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how often do you make dough comrade?

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>soviet russia

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He actually kinda looks like Dodoria, desu.

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little sunburn
>no biggie

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>freaky scientist chick who basically has a Christina Hendricks body
What's she planning to do with it?

(You)
>

*UNTIL THEIR SALARIED STAFF WRITERS TELL A FLAT TRUTH THAT YOUR FEMALE(TRANNY) MIND CAN'T DEAL WITH

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obviously shes going to eat more

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HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
youtube.com/watch?v=Y8RigxxiilI

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Why can't the information this character provides be given by generic throwaway scientists? Why not have a few extras in suits stand around and tell legasov "the tanks might be full dude lol"

>she

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So? Nothing happened there

The sheet failed to support his weight, and they both fell into the pool's radioactive water. As the worker fell, his legs got caught under some nuclear waste drums, and the water splashed onto the others, who also did not have radiation protection equipment.

From the memoirs of the cleanup effort's leader after the accident, A. N. Safonov: No links can be found on this memoir now 2018 Sept 18

Everyone present was terrified, knowing there were numerous nuclear waste drums at the bottom, radiating up to 17,000 R/h. Simple arithmetic told me that next to one of those drums, he will receive a dosage equal to 4.7 R/s.
—In death's embrace under radioactive water at the Andreev Bay

A moment later, another worker, a starshina 2nd stage, heroically jumped into the pool to save his comrade's life. A few seconds later they both surfaced, completely soaked in radioactive water. Witnesses say their faces had expressions of utter terror.

In that moment, I thought I was in Hell. When I found myself submerged in radioactive water, and my legs were caught by death ray-emitting drums, death's hot embrace enveloped my body and began to pull my consciousness into a warm daze, in that moment I thought I was only 20 years old and I did not want to die. Just then, my friend and savior Semenov, risking his own life, freed my legs from under the nuclear waste drums, and we emerged at the pool's surface.

Both workers were sent into the showers for decontamination. The dosimeter's arrow kept passing tens of millions of beta decays. Both workers had hair removed from all parts of their bodies, they slept separately from everyone else and received food in rubber gloves, since their bodies themselves were now sources of gamma radiation. The dose to which they were exposed is unknown, as their dosimeters sank in the pool.

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I'm smiling right now comrade

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I did a few hours ago
She's like 5'2" so the overall mass is pretty low. Just gigantic hips and thighs, tiny waist, and big tits.

there was graphite in the snow

youtube.com/watch?v=eukb4C2Dg-E

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>When nuclear fuel drums were unloaded from building #5 to be loaded into the dry storage containers, it often happened that cells, deformed from physical impacts and ice, spilled nuclear fuel. The working sailors then used regular shovels to pour the fuel into the cement-encased vertical steel pipes of the storage containers. These actions lead to accumulation of critical mass and subsequent uncontrolled chain reactions, glowing from Cherenkov radiation and emitting a buzzing sound, which quickly subsided.

>sailors then used regular shovels
>subsequent uncontrolled chain reactions

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REAL TALK:

Would a good SPF sunscreen protect you from Reactor-chan's loving beams?

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14 PENTILLION CHEST XRAYS

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This is pretty mild for Soviet naval nuclear disasters.

So anons this kino has me researching more nuclear accident kino. Besides the SL-1 accident in the USA this one in the UK is a pretty good read. Theres also a good doc on YT.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire

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No.

how did their balls fare user?

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Can someone recommend me a modern, affordable radiation meter? I've sold some stuff recently that got rejected by the shipping center for being a radiological hazard, so I might actually have a use for it beyond Stalker memes.

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OC request: steamed hams screencap with superintendent Chalmers but with Gorbachev’s birthmark and glasses and the subtitle “You made lava?” And then Jered Harris/Seymour Skinner looking nervous

Fuck me what is it with Russians and nuclear disasters???

>graphite in the snow
Delusional.

6 years for the douche turned scared.

herre

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>KINOBYL

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Do you really need a fucking general??

youtu.be/9Jz1TjCphXE

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thanks for thiss user

hell yea

>I've sold some stuff recently that got rejected by the shipping center for being a radiological hazard,
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SELLING?

yikes and infirmarypilled

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Do you really need to be a little bitch?

Slightly burnt concrete, it's nothing.

Back to your 800 GoT threads faggot.

goddamnit these threads are so comfy

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Comrades, does anyone know the actual story of the three volunteers at the end? I'm finding mixed results. It definitely happened but I cant tell if they ended up dying a week later like it said or if their light really did go out.

This man is in shock, janny take him to the infirmary

Is this show made by the same people who did The Terror?

Reeeeeee

The only thing I don't like about the show so far is Gorbachev. They needed to find someone better for that part. As it is he looks like some SNL skit person in poor makeup.

I keep reading that one died in 2005 but they all made it out of the ordeal alive. But who knows could be Soviet plants.

>There are retards ITT that think that Comrade Stalin isn't just resting for his final boss battle

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Isn't that about $400? Anything decent that's cheaper?

Camera lenses. So in modern low-dispersion/aspherical lenses they use fluorite in the glass to improve the optical properties. You know they used back in the old days to do the same thing? THORIUM BITCHES. A Kodak aero lens is remarkably radioactive. I had one of those, plus an old Minolta lens rejected by the eBay global shipping program because their sensors thought it was Pripyat time.

Two are alive, the shift supervisor died of heart failure in 2005. They've done interviews saying that they knew the risks and knew it was a suicide mission and were prepared to die

Yeah I saw that too. I'm interested to see how it plays out in the show considering how much speculation is involved

I'm dropping the show if they pull some bullshit and they crawl out of the water dying

goodnight chernobros

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Her character was an amalgamation for story telling purposes and the constraints of a 5 part mini series. Why introduce a bunch of literal who's in order to explain something relevant for a half episode

Nobody believes Akimov, but they send him to the roof. Where is logic? If you don't believe a guy why would you send him.

Updated

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>tfw no comfy commie science office

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Theyve done pretty good so far from what i can tell so I'd be extremely disappointed if they fuck if up

inb4 all three volunteers die despite only one of them actually being dead

>all those technicians who died because their boss didn't want to accept reality
big F

fucking this... i love these threads and all the memes coming from them ...its gonna be sad once its over

I fear her being an amalgamation of a lot of people will lead to stupid stuff like her explaining things she can't possibly know, the game of thrones route

Reminds me of Taboo and Terror.

>helicopter crash
>6 months later

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Can you do one for Emily Watson's character? She seems such a knowledgeable and successful person, I'd love to see what happened to her in real life.

>Why introduce a bunch of literal who's in order to explain something relevant for a half episode
Holy fuck you really are a shill. Why do I need a meme character in order to explain something relevant for a half episode?

We'll just have to wait and see. A lot of people here predicted a hamfisted political agenda and we've had none of that so far in my opinion

Nite bro until the next day of memes its a long wait until Monday.

They produced that model of bus until 2008.

Fomin was sent to a psychiatric hospital after being sentenced in the trial, attempted suicide, got better, then worked at a nuclear plant near Moscow in his later years.

Kek

Are you telling us to have sex, or adding that you intend to have sex with her?

Privyet from /g/!
Old Soviet maps
maps.vlasenko.net/soviet-military-topographic-map/map200k.html

aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

youtube.com/watch?v=urGYMs0-UcM

Please edit in Alexei Ananenko (plant engineer), Valeri Bezpalov (plant engineer) and Boris Baranov (shift supervisor), the Suicide Squad.

All 3 were on the Day shift and volunteered to enter the reactor building to open the sluice valves to drain the bubbler tanks, as the series shows. What it hasn't shown yet (but hopefully will) is that all three of them lived, in spite of the almost certainly lethal conditions they were exposed to.

Ananenko is still in the nuclear energy industry.

Bezpalov is alive, but has retired.

Baranov died in 2005 of heart failure.

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>Taboo and Terror
go on... you have my attention

>Here’s hoping @realDonaldTrump has been watching @HBO’s #ChernobylHBO. Maybe then he’ll realize why we don’t play nice with Russia.

Guys, do you think the divers will get their 400 rubles, or not? It's heavily implied that they'll die in the next episode.

>russians are so shorthanded they put a literal nutcase who helped cause chernobyl back in control of another nuke plant

What the fuck man

someone make an edit with the bad guy from james bond

Yee reactor-chan would have a big girthy control rod under her biological shield.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taboo_(2017_TV_series)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terror_(TV_series)

Seconded

LOOK AT THIS DUDE.
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD.

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His name is Mads Mikkelsen you fucking pleb.

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Like I said her character was an amalgamation in order to avoid introducing dozens of nameless scientists in order to explain something relevant for the second half of a single episode. The story has to be condescend to some degree in order to fit in a 5 part mini series. This isn't uncommon in TV/Film adaptations

OH NO NO NO

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>and behind them, buildings began to grow

t-that's not how buildings work

>I want every member of the United States government to sit and watch #ChernobylHBO; I want them to see, in unflinching, gripping, devastating clarity, what happens when you choose fear, ego, and party loyalty over what’s right in front of your face. #Chernobyl @HBO

based history horror

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>Watching Chernobyl, I feel so utterly frightened. I’m thinking of our corrupt, criminal president, @realDonaldTrump and how he has thrown himself and the entire @gop in with the Russians. All the lies, lies, lies that killed thousands. He would do the same to us. #ChernobylHBO

Why is she so heroic and smart compared to other characters? She even tries to break through soldier's outpost.

false flag

BECAUSE THEN YOU DONT HAVE THE MANDATORY WOMYN EMPOWERMENT DUM ASS!

ITS THE CURRENT YEAR AND THATS NOT ALLOWED

AH, SO THIS IS "THE COST OF LIES" (TM)

Because she's a composite character and she represents a community of THOUSANDS of scientists. She's wielding the narrative bat to speed the plot along. Without her they'd be shooting like 50 extra scenes involving half the scientific community of europe.

That's why the character EXISTS - they made the character a woman for yaas queen brownie points.

Mhmm

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AHEM

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that's actually a kino webm

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But this show absolutely destroys leftists.

>The nuclear reactor was what is termed an air-shielded reactor. This means the reactor was unshielded when removed from its storage pool. Each time it was used to irradiate a product of any kind, it also irradiated the surrounding landscape and forest. After only a few uses, all the foliage surrounding the reactor area had died.
So this was a reactor in a pit that was raised to kill everything around it? Can we make a religion out of this?

Incoherent Mockingbird.

Don't say it, comrade! Think of the party interest!

She's selfless yes but I wouldn't say that was in any way unique to her. I think the show has done a pretty good job of emphasizing the selfless nature of Soviet citizens due to the collective nature of their society.

>She even tries to break through soldier's outpost.
I wouldn't say she tried breaking through IIRC she said she was a nuclear scientist and suggested it would be best to take her to the highest authority if they were indeed going to take her in custody.

This. Let's hope Jerrold Nadler's congressional aides are watching and realize how insane it would be to facilitate Nadler's insanities.

I wish to god these idiots hashtagging 1984 would read the damn book.

The scenario writer could have left out how she joined the team, so it wouldn't look like too unbelievable, you know?

they're already on the pic you daft cunt

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>I think the show has done a pretty good job of emphasizing the selfless nature of Soviet citizens due to the collective nature of their society.
When they're not party bureaucrats covering their own asses. I think the selflessness is just human nature in the face of trial, it's present in every disaster. Certianly not unique to the USSR.

So being a composite character makes the Soviet Union not exist any more. I see. Then that's stupid and lazy and they shouldn't do it. The scariest part of the show is the fact that there is no superwoman coming to save you.

Oh, whoops. Kinda wish someone had highlighted them. They're as kino as colonel 15,000

Leftists have no self-awareness, inner monologue, or objectivity. They cannot learn that they are wrong about something. If they could, they'd be too volatile to be followers.

> Certianly not unique to the USSR.
Yeah, there is a mystic ЯUSSIAN SOUL trope.

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tfw you shid 30 times a day

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I had to read that twice to figure out what you were saying.

And no, shooting 50 extra scenes so you could 1) reinforce the level of obstructive bureaucracy present in the USSR and 2) identify the water tank problem would not be kino.

Neither of us would care if it was a guy.

>gamma radiation levels in the vicinity of the nuclear waste drums reaching 17,000 R/h

>pouring in 20 sacks of flour, thus filling the cracks with dough.

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so radiation is good for regularity then?

graphite

If Game of Plebs gets 20 threads at any one time, we can have this.

I did like Shcherbina's '1000 years of sacrifice' speech. But truthfully I think any civilized people would have been able to find the volunteers to do it. Everyone knew the stakes.

Hell, if I knew the layout of the reactor, I'd do it, and I'm not even a communist. Millions of lives were at stake. A human has a problem if he's the one who can do it and chooses NOT to.

>I think the selflessness is just human nature in the face of trial, it's present in every disaster.
I agree

>Certianly not unique to the USSR.
I never suggested it was. I do however think the Russian people are unique in how much they've sacrificed and suffered throughout their history. Very few societies compare in this regard perhaps maybe the Chinese

Russians certainly have a history that makes justifying it easier. I think that also predisposes them to weigh lives less strongly than most.

Whether that's good or not depends on what you're buying with such currency, I suppose. There is strength in it, and I respect that. I just don't agree with it. I'm not Russian.

Yea it definitely could've been handled better. That being said I it takes up very little screen time and certainly wasn't bad enough to ruin an otherwise excellent episode

massive brainlet here, what significant things have happened in Russia's history involving sacrifice?

>no one will ever love you this much

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>There is strength in it, and I respect that. I just don't agree with it.
There certainly are advantages to a collective mindset and society. A lot of people claim, and I'm not sure if I believe it personally, that only a communist society had the means to react to a disaster of this magnitude. I can see what they mean, I don't know if a individualist capitalist society would be quite so willing to throw all the human bodies necessary at such a disaster in order to contain it. Granted a capitalist society would never have such a disaster to begin with.

Mongols, Napoleon, Hitler

Actually the deduction that Chernobyl is catastrophically damaged is pretty much spot-on. She does it quite fast, but perhaps she's been told BS by the Party before and assumed a cover-up.

>alarm in my office when the window is opened: airborne contaminant
>airborne contaminant is iodine isotope: U-235 decay, must be a reactor
>can't be a bomb, I build those, they would have told me
>closest plant doesn't have a problem and they're as worried as I am
>next closest plant won't pick up the phone
>next closest plant ALSO is too far away to trip my lab alarm unless the reactor core has exploded
>conclusion: chernobyl reactor core has exploded

Imagine if you're into radiation/scat fetish AND have a gf like that who's also into it

>entire show so far is just everyone being in denial

>I don’t believe you, I need to send more people to go look.

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All of its history is basically autistic screeching: FOR THE MOTHERLAND!

Mongol Invasion and subjugation
The tyrannical and violent reigns of figures like Ivan The Terrible and Stalin
Napoleon
WW1
WW2
Russian Civil War

That's just off the top of my head I'm sure some /his/ bros can chime in with more

iodinepilled

>Granted a capitalist society would never have such a disaster to begin with.
There is that. Assuming a disaster of similar magnitude, however, I suspect any nation would tackle it with the same enthusiasm, if not the same methods. The Bio-Robots, for example. But when sixty million people are going to be poisoned unless you do something, you simply have to do something. There isn't any room for politics.

>radiation fetish
wat

Episode two was about them realizing the severity of the situation. Episode 3 will be full on liquidator kino.

Deduction is a red herring, why does Soviet intimidation culture magically not apply to her? Because the writers screwed up.

Welcome to the USSR, Comrade

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Russia has a long history of buying their continued sovereignty with blood. Napoleon, Hitler, the Mongols. It's said you never start a land war in Asia - they're costly and ugly. But a costly war is almost always costly for both sides.

Of course other nations have suffered as much, if not more. But much like America worships the gun, Russia has a cultural fascination with sacrifice for the greater good. It may be an echo of the Soviet system or it may be older than that, but it's there.

thats a fake character?

>Deduction is a red herring, why does Soviet intimidation culture magically not apply to her
She's young. Young enough to be taking Glasnost seriously.

And again the woman represents entire cabals of scientists asking the same questions of thousands of party officials. as Watergate proved, government cover-ups are HARD. shit leaks.

And in the case of Chernobyl the whole thing became moot when the radiation tripped alarms in SWEDEN.

Oh shit, facts

America "worships the gun" because we are the flowering of English common law tradition. Consider what Orwell warned about that rifle over the English fireplace.

> Granted a capitalist society would never have such a disaster to begin with.
It's a very disputable statement. Fukushima was not a long time ago.

episode 3 will be the miners
episode 4 will be the sarcophagus, and the bio-robots

the communism thing happened and every scum in eastern europe went around killing and robbing their neighbors in the name of equality or something

Yeah, the one who is totally different than anybody else and so stands out.
The other characters are solid and the show is kino except for her.

Eh, not the place to discuss the REASON for American gun culture. We can at least agree that it's there.

russia is just lucky they have brutal winters

This really looks like film is fucked by radiation actually

Ignorant reply, young people were less willing to challenge the State. Ask yourself who would doubt Hitler sooner, an old person who remembered a different system and had seen multiple leaders, or a Hitler Youth leader?

They are brutal as in Canada.

Imagine if soviets weren't 3rd worlders we'd currently all be speaking russian

or by the very least all of europe

I'm off. someone don't forget to make a new thread, don't let it die again

>young people were less willing to challenge the State
Right, because Tienanmen Square was full of retirees. Young people are naturally passionate about their beliefs. If their beliefs conform to the State view, they're loyal party members. If they DON'T, then they're the most outspoken dissenters.

The old dissenters will be dead or have fled the country.

Fukishima occurred largely due to a natural disaster

Repeating nonsense doesn't make it logical. I look forward to a show about the Islamic Republic of Iran where there's a chick walking around in public disrespecting the mullahs, and when this is pointed out, people are told it's okay because she is a "composite."

If history is anything to go by it would be the Hitler Youth leader.

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how do you figure?

My answer was objectively correct and improves the Russian independence argument.
>but the NRA has magic powers
Okay, that would explain how they bamboozled the Founding Fathers.

You want logical? Explain how this would be an issue if the composite character would be a guy.

They would still be wielding the narrative bat.

The Chernobyl disaster happened due to an experiment. As if experiments gone wrong never happened in a capitalist societies.

Please fish in another pond. This is /RBMK/ not /pol/.

Terrible example. Chinese are always more conformist and just to make sure they killed all their dissidents.
Tienanmen Square was full of college students led by older people, encouraged by the fall of Soviet communism, and initially set off by being forced to share facilities with misbehaving Africans.

Do you know who the people in the two pictures I've posted are?

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A badly-run experiment headed by party loyalists coupled with a badly designed reactor whose flaws were covered up by party loyalists coupled with a badly run work crew headed by party loyalists.

There were a LOT of problems, all of them exacerbated to the point of disaster by Soviet mismanagement.

Look at his idiotically cherry-picked example: a failed terrorist organization, about as representative of that society as holding up David Duke as an average American.

>I look forward to a show about the Islamic Republic of Iran where there's a chick walking around in public disrespecting the mullahs
How is that at all comparable? Soviet academia had a large percentage of women it's not like this doesn't make any sense whatsoever in the context of a Soviet society. I agree it could've been handled better but that comparison you made simple doesn't make sense.

Go into the water.
Live there. Die there.

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>Grobachev still alive
Btw has anyone made a Gorby with lava lamps meme?

It would be an issue for the same reasons. None of the complaints were about her gender, that was a cheap straw man damage control ploy.

This is not /got/ general, comrade. Characters can actually use cars, helicopters and planes to travel hige distances in short time.
Minsk to Chernobyl is like 400-500 km. You can drive that distance in a few hours - and she departs around noon and arrives in the evening.
Chernobyl to Moscow is like a 1000 km, thats less than two hours away on an airplane

What's a romanian soldier got to do with that?

I have very surface level knowledge but weren't they students who resisted the Nazi government? I don't understand how this ties into a Nazi Youth leader being more likely to question the state. Nazi Youth were indoctrinated pretty heavily.

It did not happen due to an experiment, it happened during one, which was badly distorted and constrained by the failures and compartmentalizations of Soviet society.

shit i didnt really pay much attention to her, she wasnt contributing much but now i realize how stupid her character is, i was born after the fall of the USSR and even then women didnt drive cars, only men, probably becuase they didn't have power steering and now i remember her driving from minsk to chernobyl to warn them about the water tanks. kind of ruins the show now i hope she doesnt have a bigger role

How can looking at the light kill you?

Then go write an episode's worth of filler for the all of two narrative things she actually does:

Seriously that is ALL the actual narrative agency she's had in the story so far.

You can't shill like that here. You know who else had female academics, genius? Iran. Women, yes. Omniscient superwomen who totally break the setting, no.

The light isn't the problem, it's what's generating the light.

Comrade, consider the popularity of hitchiking in the Soyuz.

It's actually less than 1000. It's 700. But there is no landing strip in Chernobyl or Pripyat so they used helicopters. Still pretty fast.

>REEEEEEEE CAPABLE WOMAN REEEEEEEE
exhausting

The percentages are not at all comparable. IIRC women comprised something like 40% of nuclear scientists in the Soviet Union the fact the amalgamation character is a woman isn't totally outrageous

>You know who else had female academics, genius? Iran
Very very little in comparison to the Soviet Union. A female amalgamation character would stick out far more in such a setting

>Omniscient superwomen who totally break the setting, no.
I think her character definitely could've been handled better yes.

There's more there than just visible light.

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This isn't about representation of common views in society you illiterate fucking nigger, its about who commonly makes up dissenters who are virtually always a fringe minority.
>terrorists
Kek those leaflets were very scary weren't they.
>Nazi Youth were indoctrinated pretty heavily.
Clearly not heavily enough.

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>You can't shill like that here
What the fuck is he even shilling for? Why do zoomers use these words that they don't even understand

Yeah, that's why a small Moscow kingdom, constantly defending neighboring foes became 1/7 of the Earth landmass.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1

So borium and gravel is all you need to stop the core?

No that was just to get radiation levels down to not insta kill levels

hahahahaha NO.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1#Consequences

>Even without an engineered containment building like those used today, the SL-1 reactor building contained most of the radioactivity
As opposed to the Chernobyl building, which exploded.

>During the response to the accident, 22 people received doses of 3 to 27 Röntgens full-body exposure.
As opposed to the literally tens of thousands the firefighters at Chernobyl took, which killed almost all of them within a month.

>The accident caused this design to be abandoned
RBMK reactors are still in use today.

The light is so powerful it pushes electrons out of the molecules that comprise your body.

It *is* the light, actually.

Can someone with knowledge on this answer why didn't the fire responders have any kind of radiation gear with them considering they were dealing with nuclear power plants? And fuck off with your /pol/shittery ain't interested in that.

There was just some tar burning and stinking like hell

Why would they need radiation gear? RMBK reactors can't explode. It's just a roof fire.

why would they

No, the visible light is caused by ionization of the air due to the radiation. The radiation shows itself by doing to air what it does to you - otherwise it's invisible.

Not that big of a difference, but it's there.

It was actually borium carbide, lead, and dolomite.
It was done to absorb the radiation from the core and cool it. They later started to drop glue on the roof tops to get the dust out.

>Visible light
Not what I was talking about.

Because it was a commie shithole

> As opposed to the Chernobyl building, which exploded.
That's because there is a difference in scale
> As opposed to the literally tens of thousands the firefighters at Chernobyl took, which killed almost all of them within a month.
Where did you get this information?
> RBMK reactors are still in use today.
Old ones are still in use today, but there are also new models with changes.

A nuclear power plant on fire no matter if it's just a roof fire always exposes risks, and a fire department working in a city with an active nuclear power plant ought to know this.

Because RBMK reactors dont explode, comrade, so why would they have special gear?
Communism causes permanent lack of everything, so as someone living in a post-communist country, this is obvious and completely not surprising.

Because initially, people thought it was hydrogen tank explosion and the radiation levels were ok. That's why Bryukhanov went to jail.

>Where did you get this information?
The debris field in the plant's parking lot was emitting 15,000 roentgen per hour. The firefighters were on that site from about 1:30 to at least 3:00 - 22,000 roentgen per man. Simple math.

As for when they died, I googled it.

Amazing, 6+ replies before an actual good one without /pol/shittery or dumb memes.
Thanks, at least one good poster on this board.

> As opposed to the literally tens of thousands the firefighters at Chernobyl took, which killed almost all of them within a month.
I hate to be that guy, but where is the proofs?

>during the start-up of the first reactor at the Balakovo plant in Russia, a relief valve burst, and superheated steam at 300 degrees centigrade escaped into the annular compartments surrounding the reactor well.
>Fourteen men were boiled alive
cool

This man is delusional. Get him out of here.

There's also the fact that in the scene most people are complaining about, she's addressing a local party boss, not the central committee of the CPSU, notice how her tone changes dramatically when she's in the room with gorbachev

fuck you comrade

>local party boss
A local party boss could fuck up your life beyond belief and you wouldn't want to get on his bad side.

Please escort this man to the party headquarters. Thank you for your service.

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Dude they had 3 dosimeters in the whole city. A shitty one, a not great not terrible one and a good one. Three.

Why do people behave like it's unrealistic for a nuclear scientist to immediately know that a power plant accident occured the moment they identify the isotope?
All radioactive elements have well known decay chains, which results in the production of elements that otherwise don't occur in nature in large quantities. Note that the Swedes knew immediately that a nuclear plant accident happened as soon as they detected the iodine - and after they made sure none of their plants was damaged, they knew it was the Soviets. If I had a spectrometer and a book with decay chains listed I could do that too, a nuclear scientist would have all of that memorised before they even graduated.
Is it just shitposting, or are people really that dumb?

>Why do people behave like it's unrealistic for a nuclear scientist to immediately know that a power plant accident occured the moment they identify the isotope?
The fuck are you on about?

>eh
>>>reddit

you or me sure, but someone in her position, the head of a major soviet scientific institution, could expect to get away with more in general. In general if you were of some kind of importance you could be surprisingly blunt with local bosses

>... the tips of the rods were designed to remain at the ready, just inside the active zone of the reactor-where, if they contained boron carbide, they would have a poisoning effect, creating a slight but constant drag on power output. To stop this from happening, the rods were tipped with short lengths of graphite, the moderator that facilitates fission.
Based Soviets giving us the most efficient and powerful reactor design in history.

That's not true. They had good dosimeters at the reactor 4 building. Access to one was blocked by debris and the other one was malfunctioning since it was not in use for quite some time. That's why inspector Laushkin was sentenced to prison.

The state's position is that there is no risk of radiation. You aren't opposing the state, are you comrade?

>IIRC women comprised something like 40% of nuclear scientists in the Soviet Union
Found the problem guys

>Based Soviets giving us the most efficient and powerful reactor design in history.
Dude, it produced 20 years worth of its planned output in 4 seconds. Beat that efficiency.

Nah, chief. Only NKVD could fuck with institute-director level people.

>Boris actually died 4 years later

It might no be related to radiation, cause the life expectancy was low in the SU.

>Characters can actually use cars, helicopters and planes
ONLY IDIOT MALES

WHO COULDNT POSSIBLY IMAGINE AMONG THEMSELVES THAT FIRE ENGINE PUMPS RUNNING FULL BLAST COULD FILL UP WATER TANKS

BRILLIANT STRONG WOMAN MARYSUE TELEPORTS BEHIND STUPID PATRIARCHY TO DAB ON THEM #YAAAAAS

FANTASY CHARACTER, FANTASY POWERS :^)

Mostly because they got the jobs thanks to a powerful backing and nepotism. If you were at all capable you lacked those connections.

There is a shitton if posts about how Ulana >>magically>with no infornation

So it's okay when a guy swings the plot advancement bat?

A lot of the pocket dosimeters are also radiometers/Geiger counters, they can be set to measure ambient radiation levels as shown or act as an alarm once a cumulative level is reached to help workers avoid overexposure.

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> Mostly because they got the jobs thanks to a powerful backing and nepotism. If you were at all capable you lacked those connections.
Do you have any proofs?

He also was head of the government committee mitigating the Armenian earthquake disaster in 1988. He did not simply pussy out.

Someone stated it was 23% women and 77% men. Found the problem guys.
He was 71 at that point, he fought in a goddamn Finnish war ahainst speed overdosed Perkeles.

>debris field in the plant's parking lot was emitting 15,000 roentgen per hour

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Can you link some of those posts?

Nah, that aint chief. Soviet Academy of Science and its institutes was not the same as the party. Nepotism did not work there that well.

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> believing in soviet propaganda

SWINGING HOW
AGAINST THE HEAD OF THE PATRIARCHY? #YAAAS?

DABBING ON IDIOT SHOE FACTORY BOSSES, IDIOT NUCLEAR SCIENTIST BOSSES, IDIOT DOCTOR BOSSES
ALL MALES BTW :^)

WHY WASN'T THAT IDIOT DOCTOR AN OLD WOMAN IDIOT DOCTOR HMMM? MUH SOVIETS HAD SO MANY WOMEN IN MEDICINE!

WANT TO ASK OTHER BRAINLET QUESTIONS AND GET REKT? YOU JOKE OF A MORAN LMAO

SHES A SHITTY MARYSUE INSERTED FOR HAMFISTED FEMALE EMPOWERMENT
NYT KNOWS IT, EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS IT
JUST OWN IT YOU BITCH

>Scherbina was in charge of rebuilding my hometown after WWII
Guys I think I found a new role model

neat

those caps tho

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Are you from Хapкiв?

So that 100-300 micro Sieverts per hour on some parts of the building outside the original sarcophagus? What is that in terms of dosage?

Da

>THROW UP SOME WEAK PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE FAULTY LOGIC POSED AS A QUESTION
>GET LITERALLY RAPED

D-D-DESPERATE.JPG

LMAO, U ARITE SWEETY? :^)

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Can you call these guys to ask them what they think of the show? souzchernobyl.org/?section=56

this article is written in broken english and has almost no sources. I'm sure there's truth to it but it probably has a lot of mythology too.

I see there's a whole section on the website about debunking chernobyl myths. Though it might be influenced by anti-soviet propaganda. Would read that now.

the nazis were the good guys by the way

Nah, they are pretty based. There is an interview with Ananenko there.

socialists are never the good guys

there were many yesterday, can't find any ITT. seems like the permavirgins got BTFO and left

souzchernobyl.org/?id=2440
Memories of the senior mechanical engineer of the reactor workshop № 2 Alexey Ananenko

when we were on our way to “two zeros to the first” we approached the entrance to the transport corridor 4 blocks, Baranov BA stopped, pushed the telescopic handle of the DP-5 to its full length and stuck the sensor into the corridor. “I looked over Baranov’s shoulder at the readings,” recalls Valera, “the device went off scale on all subranges. Then a short team followed: “Move very fast!”. Running through the dangerous space, I could not resist, looked back and saw a giant black cone of fragments of a blown-up reactor mixed with concrete chips, waking from above through a technological opening from the central hall. A familiar metallic taste of fluid radiolysis appeared in the mouth. ”