SURVIVOR REUNION

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Last thread of this season must have the real and only skeleton waifu

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Now that the dust has settled

What did you think of the season?

winner of my heart

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>island of the Idols

OH NO NO NO NO NO

HAHAHA

looks like total shit

previous one
Boston Rob essentially won All-Stars desu

4/10 trainwreak of a season

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I feel like we just went back in time to the early 20s era.

I have zero expectations for next season

tfw vic gf

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next season looks terrible. survivor aint the same game those two played.

I haven't been watching the last few episodes but i watched this with my family, how much have you guys been jerking off to vic and lauren?

>Those big head structures
Cringe as fuck

THOSE FUCKING BROB AND SANDRA STATUES LMAO IM DEAD

Mediocre. Had some good moments in the middle. Ending was a shit show

Manu is up there in terms of most kino tribes ever, even if the season as a whole wasn't great. Every single member had entertainment value. The David-Kelley proxy war carried the season for like 4 episodes, Devens-David broship was fun, Wardog was great, Lauren was hot. Reem was fun on extinction, Keith was another black guy who couldn't swim, Wendy was insane. And Chris came in with a big dick move to secure the season.

i liked it until double boot episode, then it became a Rick show and he didn't even win in the end lmao
2.5/5

Rob can at least teach somewhat, but Sandra's way of playing just doesn't translate well to teaching others.

how am i going to go on without seeing her on my tv every week?

I don't know how they can think Island of the Idols is a good theme. Like wtf are Rob and Sandra gonna do?

Imagine her brapping on your face hahaha ding-dong diddly mint

>>Jerking off to Victoria

You don`t do that to waiffus user, on the other hand Lauren and Aurora...

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PFFFFHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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limited budget and they decide to pull this shit

by following her social media posts

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Boring, just some of episodes were good

>I only jerk off to Wendy, who was obviously the best girl of this season

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how can this cuck keep podcasting about survivor strategy after this season?
is he going to pretend that Chris win was just a fluke?

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Victoria a shit
Lauren a slut
Aurora best girl

I think the people behind The Bachelor/generic dating/couple shows may have hijacked Survivor.

this is unbelievably based

Island of the Idols? But we just saw that season

based

You know at least someone will try to piss on those statues

The only way to save next season is to have it be like BRob and Sandra's original seasons. No idols, no advantages.

>Premerge
Manu carried the season. Joey Amazing kept his tribe out of Tribal Council so we got a lot of Manu early on. Keith and Reem were good and didn't overstay. Wendy was pretty much the star of the premerge and David vs. Kelley lead to some great votes. Seeing Rick in the premerge though, you'd never think that he would blow up as much as he did. There was also some good stuff with Joe, like actually trying to give him a personality.

>Post-merge
Par for the course and Wardog looked great. Like he was running circles around these chumps. Then we get the double boot followed by Wardog and Ron and suddenly Rick just dominates the edit. But he didn't win, and the actual winner was invisible for most of the season. So uhhhhh yeah fuck this gimmick.

if they don't set those on fire by the end of the season

>Aubry gets outplayed by someone
>butthurt about it and votes for someone she never had any relationship in the game with

hahahaha, she went full circle

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she doesnt seem that into social media

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based me

>mfw

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Such a smol jury, Uncle Joe was based though

suicide livestream incoming

Not great. They fucked themselves over with the twist. How do you edit a season where the winner leaves the game in the third episode and doesn't come back until the last?

gabon tier/10

I masturbate exclusively to the thought of Reem humiliating me after I get blindsided with an idol in my pocket.

What a fucking farce of a season, I would've been fine with any of the F5 winning, not some random come from behind EOE returnee who spend about 10 days in game.
With the next season reveal, I hate to say that survivor has jumped the shark...Hopefully S40 is good

be nice to robert he feeds his kids with this shit

one more month until the real reality show starts

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>Voted Out 3rd, Day 8
>Returnee, Day 35
>wins

what a joke

redpilled

at least BBCAN7 had a great endgame, literal kino from F5 to F2

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EoE would have been fine if it were capped at like 5 and they had to do challenges whenever a 6th showed up.

>tfw Kelly W

Can't wait for some Grodnerball

Gabon was at least funny
>Corinne telling Sugar and Susie to eat shit
>Matty’s turkey laugh and dive into deep depression
>Ace and his “sleek weasels”
>Randy bullying people
>Dan being disturbingly needy
>Crystal unable to compete in physical challenges despite being a former olympic athlete
>Dindu literally named “Golden Child” tries to abandon his tribe

gabon is pleb filter. the king of smash carries

what if there is a second "extinction" house for evictees with live feeds?

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imagine he immediately canceled all the survivor shit and just did rob and akiva need a podcast every day for the next ten years.
>mfw

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I didn’t watch it lol
so 10/10

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Gabon is a top tier season, this one was bad to mediocre.
The Fang tribe had unreal entertainment value.

Even redemple temple was better; a proper sendoff, and it doesn't create a situation where the person who spends the most time there is the automatic winner based on how close they are emotionally to everyone voting for a winner. If the jury were smaller, Gavin probably wins. The experiment was cool but it ultimately rewarded absolutely retarded gameplay.

pure kino, way better than bbcan6
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see you guys when bb gets here

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shit returnees this season as well
bring back some old school chads

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Easily one of my favorite seasons. Shit strategy and winner, but great tv. Also I forgot
>Retard bipolar pinup model finds the idol before the lawyer

When will everyone realize South Pacific was the peak of Survivor (TM)

>Gabon is a top tier season

r8 this all winners cast i made

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Holy shit is that Burton on the left?

damn ethan looks great, you cant even tell he had cancer.

Maybe if Coach hadn't shit his pants at Final Tribal and won. Sophie winning just ruins it.

LETS GO

Right is the only one I don't recognise

this. i hate how history revisionists make sophie into a good player when literally the only reason why she won is because coach didnt own up to his game

Ethan, winner of Africa, competed on Allstars

wtf I’m gay now

>not 20 people
>pretending that Brian, Chris or Vecepia would get a call

meh

Holy fuck I'm blind, I associate him with his curly hair so much these days

vecepia unironically has a good chance seeing as their so few good female winners

It makes it even better lol. It's basically the new testament acted our irl between two cults. Ozzy (Jesus) sacrifices himself to save his tribe going into a merge at 12. Cochran is saved by this, but he (Judas) betrays Ozzy and flips on him, temped by the devil (Coach). Coach, Sophie, and Albert run the game from there, w/Rick & Brendan as allies. Coach additionally had Cochran and that weak asian chick. The three of them made a run. The alliance of 5 was a cult at the end was a cult that ran the entire game (even called out by early redemption island boots). It's nuts how it all plays out. Better on a rewatch. End of rant

burton is based

Yep. Survivor is a social game. Coach recognized that Brandon needed to be kept under control and formed a fucking religious cult on a desert island and got his whole tribe to buy into it. He got Cochran from the other fucking team to buy into it. I think it's the best social game anyone has ever played on Survivor and he just fucked it up with his dragon slayer autism at the end.

What happened with Brandon in Caramoan should retroactively just give coach the win in SoPa.

This season has some great camera work

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Pearl Islands was kino

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very based

Even on RHAP Jim has said he should've voted for Coach, but he had such a shit jury speech.

To this day, one of the best seasons. Top 5 material.

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tiddie kino

Hold up I wanna look for the possible cast list for season 40

apparently they are flying out to Fiji today-tomorrow, it should be spoiled in the next 7 days

loved the whole thing

this desu

Will there ever be a bigger asterisk next to a winner? and victoria was robbed

Natalie did literally nothing other than not be Russell Hantz

Hottest female this season?
>inb4 Reem

The fall of the Family towards the end was messy, it was always going to cause issues for all of them. Good thing Albert was like a fucking lightning rod for that drama

Top 5 season honestly

Gavin was robbed

man Kelly and Lauren were insufferable. At least Lauren had a nice ass

But Natalie was literally Victoria
>voted correctly every single time
>haven't won immunities
>haven't found idols
>made one move she could take ownership of, otherwise just followed
>relied on her social game

So this is why Lynn Spellman was fired. Despite all the gimmicks and twists production's golden boy couldn't pull it out. It's your fault the season turned out this way Jeff don't blame it on her lmao.

west coast just now watching

wew lauren did her boobs get smaller

Natalie is Russel Hanz, they're the same type of player, effectively lost for the same reasons

Victoria did a couple blindsides and was pretty much always able to sniff out what was happening. Natalie always knew for sure what was happening because she was the mob boss's side piece.

When people starve their fat reserves get depleted

This season was bottom 5.
Change my opinion

Imo Vic's game was more impressive. The aubry blindside was great and she organized the Ron vote split. Also we saw more intelligent confessionals from Vic than Nat
I truly think if Chris didn't just come in and say "yo the jury really likes Vic she has the best chance after Rick" than she would have had a strong case to make it to the end

Parvati should have won HvV and is the GOAT Survivor contestant.

i agree

I'm sure a few contrarians will chime in but I don't think that's going to be an unpopular opinion.

Disagree. Her social game was shit compared to her run in Micronesia. She played great strategy, but didn’t take any time to form bonds with the heroes, aka the majority of the jury. Even she knew that Sandra would beat her if she made it to the end because of it. She even warned Russell about it twice. If she got rid of Sandra and took Jerri, it would have been a perfect game.

I literally can't
>38. Redemption Island
>37. Ghost Island
>36. Edge of Extinction
>35. Blood vs. Water
>34. Game Changers

Victoria went out on an idol which had sat dormant the entire game that she had 0 way of knowing about. She played a fantastic game.

Ghost Island, One World, Redemple Temple, and Game Changers are all worse

But in all seriousness I agree this season was pretty garbo

it's better than Redemption Island, Caramoan, One World, Ghost Island, Game Changers

they're too chad for modern survivor

EoE was boring as fuck throughout. You can still have a good season if the premeege was good like Cook Islands, even though the ending was eh.

Blood Vs. Water was good.

Parvati is overrated as fuck. Her win in microensia is so overrated, cirie was doing most of the work

this

I forgot caramoan but that was worse too. So eoe was AT worst bottom 6

i want to see auction challenges again

Call me crazy but I'm fine with One World. It had a cast full of idiots but a lot of the more entertaining, drama-creating idiots went deep in the game like Tarzan, Kat and Alicia.

This season is worse than Redemple Temple, in the sense that the winner was voted out day 8 and had two chances to make it back in, and then won due to an extended jury and positioning. At least Boston Rob was a reasonable winner in how he controlled the game

Kat is one of my favorite idiots in the game, One World had some funny shit.

>Colton's reign of terror
kino
>after Colton quits
mostly bad, but it's actually kind of feel good that Kim just walks through the game. She had unreal charisma you could feel through the screen and I was happy for her when she won. Also Kat being completely exposed was hilarious.

i am not rating based on a winner
i am rating based on entertainment, this season was ok until mid post-merge
Redemption Island was shit after first 2-3 episodes

WHY DID SHE PLAY THAT IDOL FOR CHRIS WTF

As much as I love Rob, he makes the game boring when he’s actually in power because his manipulation is so effective that no one even tries to backstab him. The same is true for Allstars. He makes great tv when he has tough opponents, Marquesas Rob and HvV Rob > Allstars Rob and RI Rob

>another idol for devens

lame fuck idols

that's not an opinion, that's a fact

How did Lauren’s tits stay in that Victoria’s Secret push-up bra the whole season? That’s not even a sports bra....why?

Wait for it user, you'll like what comes next

>the absolute state of vic and rick after not getting picked to go on reward by Julie

so are amazing race threads dead next week :(

I dont understand why people though Vic was deserving to win. She did nothing of note the entire time. Just because she was the smartest person on the show this season, doesnt mean she should win.

you can always give it a try
I don't know if I'm gonna keep going with it, was watching for the cool wine aunts.
How hard are the TAR ratings gonna tank next week?

Would Island of the Idols - Zeke vs Varner been better?

She and Gavin were a package deal, and between the two Vic seemed the better strategic player (I won't get into social because both of them were tied there)

>chris not asking for devns idol and giving his to lauren

fuck these dicks, she made it so you were both safe

>Game Changers - no Mike White = shit season
>HHH - no Mike White = shit season
>Ghost Island - no Mike White = shit season
>DvG - Mike White is on = great season
>EOE - no Mike White = shit season

i am seeing a pattern, guys

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nah
russell wasn't going to win because they didn't like him and he was a rookie
and parvarti wasn't playing better than sandra and had some people on the heroes that hated her. I will admit she made one of the best moves in all of survivor with the double idols at merge though.

parvarti's best showing was micronesia and even there she lucked out that it was a final 2 and not 3 because Cirie would have smoked her and amanda

There are a lot of contestants I'd be happy to see back from DvG
>Christian
>John Morrison
>Angelina
>Mike White
>Davie
Hell even that Pat guy who got evacuated early could probably get another shot.

>Ron
>Wardog
>Kelley
>David

Who deserved to win?

coach is my favorite player of all time.

>Angelina
word

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wardog

Wardog had the most impressive game of anyone this season but he did it too early. None of them deserve to win.

I said it when he got voted out and I'll say it again, whoever won the season (Chris) would have Wardog to thank for it. He was the only one who had the cajones to take out Kelley, whose alliance was reaching critical levels of power with the right voting bloc and two idols in Lauren and Kelley's pockets. David/Devens was the second biggest threat and he cut the head off the snake there too.

Yeah, the moves left him as the biggest target, but if they hadn't happened when they did, Wentworth would have run away with the game and NOBODY would have had a chance.

lol i dont even care who wins now

this is worse than the end of GoT

Based and Wardogpilled, his run of control was magical. Although I didn think that he was crazy for sticking under Kelley so much during the premerge, but he proved me wrong.

Nah

Of those four? Unironically wardog.

is there any ponderosa vids up?

I remember your post weeks ago
Wardog is based af

Anyone have webm of Lauren’s nips getting diamond hard after she finds fake idol?

>this is worse than the end of GoT
if the leaks are to be trusted, nothing is going to be worse that that shitshow of a finale on sunday

no

>devens getting all the advantages
>oh gee he found all the idols too
>someone coming back to F6 without having to face tribal or be on the side of the vote

yeah this blows

Will be rewatching Chris' boot episode, probably a lot of foreshadowing I missed out on there

>we need a perfect jury threat with several sob stories
>how about this black female gay superfan military vet that had a brain tumor operation year ago?
>perfect

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It was patently obvious for weeks that he was the EoE returnee. He got a bunch of confessionals of "I wanted to play perfectly but I failed. I need to redeem myself." They should have played up Joe and maybe Aubry too so that there was at least a little mystery going into the challenge.

The Exile stuff in general was the most ridiculous part of the edit. I felt like there was no point in the gimmick when it never showed the exile guys interacting or suffering or planning or ANYTHING.

early postmerge boot is her ceiling

Probably because the exiles did nothing all day lol

Man I wish that reem had come back she would have been fun. Besides like 3-4 people most of this cast were duds.

>a 14 episode season of a show is going to worse than 8 years of 73 hours of content dropping the ball the entire last season

nope

The vast majority of every cast is duds, I think that some of these guys were good but EoE just drained them of any energy. It was only good when they had them finding advantages and getting puzzles. Like when Keith booked it to try and get something before the rest of them.

LOL devens BTFO by fire

just like that last ep of GOT, one of the best eps ever when dany went crazy

I mean yeah every cast has its duds, but there were some cringe ass people in this season. that older guy was a cringy villain, that black kid it was like you're a total moma's boy wimp, it's tiring seeing Joe/Aubrey yeah they were fun their first seasons but now they're just over played. Victoria and Gavin were just there I guess?

>Wardog
>Kelley
>David
>Lauren
>Wendy
>Reem
>Victoria
>Devens

were all good TV. Ron was kind of infuriating at times but it was at least fun to see him eat shit. Aurora was at least hot and did cause a little bit of drama. Chris was fine for what he was, not his fault the gimmick sucked ass.

>Keith (though I always enjoy seeing the black guys who can't swim)
>Joe
>Aubry
>Julia
>Julie
>Eric (who even is this, I actually had to look up the cast list)
>Gavin
were all duds.

Honestly the issue is that all the real kino players were (correctly) voted off in the immediate postmerge. The David-Kelley-Wardog mindgames episodes were actually really good.

>watch know it alls just to see
>instead of fishback and sophie, it's hannah

dropped

Can we just make this a bb thread now.

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I meant more like his interactions with Rick before he got voted out

LETS GO

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Going to give it a try for the first time when the new season comes out. Do you watch the livestreams or just the show?

24/7 streams seem excessive

At least with BB I already expect Grodnerball.

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I feel bad for Ghost Island
Production probably thought they were doing something great for the fans by including so many throwbacks to past seasons
But then the season sucked and fans hated it so they said "Fuck it, they hate everything we do no matter what, might as well do another battle back season"

Still cant believe kc won bb20. Shes probably the most forgettable winner outside of drew and eddie

Streams and chatting with the /bb/ bros is the best part. The show OK at best.

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can't wait to spam Dougylicious instead of Devin in BB21 threads

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and worse is the big shitty cringe level 6 tattoo she did on her arm

Mostly streams but I don't watch it 24/7. It's usually the best at night, and in the first few weeks when the alliances are forming and breaking and the crazy people are still in the house.

>24/7

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Sophie is on way to Fiji, she's gonna slay hard

Still can't decide if this is the most based thing they've done in a decade or the most retarded

I wanna suck a fart out of shelbys brapper.

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>Streams and chatting with the /bb/ bros is the best part.
based and true

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It would be interesting to see her again when she's not stuck pretending to be super religious to fit into a cult. She's one of the players I legit can't tell if she was good or bad.

What a fucking bizarre season South Pacific was.

is big brother actually good?

Depends on the season. Last season was pretty good. The season before that was garbage.

no, it's just a friends simulator and an excuse to shitpost in dedicated generals

no ponderosa?

It seems like a meme for obsessed waifuists to me but I'll give it a shot.

It depends on the season and moment. It's like poetry for life.

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it honestly depends on the twist(s) and players just like survivor

the big difference is there are two versions of big brother each season
-there's the fake show, which is the edited tv episodes that leave a lot out
-then there's the real show, which is the live feeds

if you're going to watch big brother, you need to watch the live feeds because that's the best part of it

How are the livefeeds not just 90% dead air?

Cant believe we live in a world where sabrina got more jury votes than based poutine papi

I really enjoyed the edit of ozzy feeding his opponent before sending them on their way. He was so fucking close.

Of nonreturning players in Edge of Extinction who should be brought back for future seasons?
I would like to see
>Rick
>Lauren
>Victoria
All brought back.

just dropped
a bunch of group ones and individual ones for Vic, Lauren and Devens
youtube.com/watch?v=bXSsrcI2xIs

Wardog, Reem and Wendy if they're willing

the first couple weeks of live feeds are great because there are so many people and you can watch then manipulate and scheme in real time, but they only get boring with a lot of downtime when you're down to final 6-7 when they pretty much know what the plan is

Reem, Ron and Lauren. Even though I was rooting against him I'd watch Rick again. I'd like to see more Victoria but I don't think it would happen.

That finale was so bad it's making me lose faith in the whole show. I just feel so empty.

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it can be, for sure. but when it’s good, it’s really fun, especially with simultaneous shitposting.
everyone else has already said the same thing apparently.

has someone from your hometown ever won bb/survivor?

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laurens legs at the beginning of the episode

holy fuck someone gets to fuck those thighs

IVE BECOME SO NUMB

We had a great season just a few months ago with DvG. The show is still capable of being good, but the EoE gimmick was clearly a dud.

Hoping that next season is more low-key with Rob/Sandra just hosting challenges and maybe advising the winners as reward and fewer advantages overall.

closest I got was baller

show is for watching comps and DR sessions

I just worry that now default Survivor is mediocre, with really good ones like DvG being an exception. I dunno

lauren ponderosa

youtube.com/watch?v=bXSsrcI2xIs

So Todd tweeted that he's not a part of 40. Pretty disappointing. Dude had probably the GOAT final tribal.

vic
youtube.com/watch?v=Y4evaMYyjO0


youtube.com/watch?v=oDRw6wC2JlE

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>vecepia
>adam

Boring. Replace them with Tyson and Todd. Todd can count as a female b/c he a gay

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last one

youtube.com/watch?v=Xyuco2xg4fU

youtube.com/watch?v=nrlxgdz7lcc
Are the older intros better than the newer ones?

They don't put effort into newer ones since they don't even play them

youtube.com/watch?v=ZQqqhLfJ3Bc
The uniques songs and pictures of the players instead of just action shots was better to me

And this too, if I was on the show I'd want to see myself in the intro.

Victoria is unbelievably likeable and unironically played the most strategically sound game this season. She played a stealth game so she probably won't be invited back but Jeff seemed to like her but who knows.

In a pre-season 20 game of Survivor she would have probably won convincingly.

...so is everyone gonna pretend this isnt a thing now?

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>i havent weighed below 150 lbs since 8th grade

lost 11.5lbs to 141

nice, keep it up.

How fit do you have to be to get on Survivor?

They take pretty much anyone if they think you're good TV. I'd argue Devens actually had a pretty decent advantage coming in with fat to burn. He hit a second wind late in the game while Lauren and Victoria withered away and was a physical beast.

Personality over looks, unless they want you as eye candy.

117lbs to 101

>i havnt been 100 lbs since i was in middle school

lost 16lbs

I liked Wardog, the problem is that he was just so bad at challenges that I don’t see him being very competitive if he were to return.

Unless you have a pre-existing condition that would get you killed out there they could take you. They have put people with only one leg on the show before. You also have to pass a psych exam. But they have let some fucking sketch people on the show before so I don't know how rigorous that is.

But this:
Unless you are that hot you need to be entertaining and someone who would make good TV.

they're gonna self fellate themselves all season and not get anywhere close to winning s40.

Sandra:
>i'm the queen long live the queen, i just coached you where's my paycheck jeff

Rob
>me and ambah, powah couples are so dangerous. Trust me. I. know :) i wrote, the book, on survivah.

Boston Rob looked fucking old on the preview. Sandra surprisingly has barely aged at all. Is she still with her military husband?

How did Aubrey look so much younger and hotter at final tribal than at the reunion?

aurora is attracted to victoria

So did Victoria and Lauren and Wentworth and (arguably) Aurora. The island makes people sexy, it's some innate primal part of our brains.

Or maybe the CBS makeup people are just shit at their jobs? Sometimes less is more.

Any mirrors yet for non-US?

Possibly makeup, a lot of it is diet and environment, getting all that sun and trading in American food for a more eastern diet of rice and fish is cleansing and does a lot more for you than make you lose weight

Is Chris Yea Forums or reddit?

dafuq is Yea Forums?

Chris is neither. Victoria is somehow both 4channel and Reddit. It appears that waifus rule both places.

You would think wendy would be the waifu of the season

lauren is kind of annoying in her ponderosa

Lauren is definitely not the smartest person on earth

Looking for good Yea Forums people for my online version of survivor: Strandedgaming com to apply, $100 cash prize it’s legit

I can't think of a single person who wanted Chris to win

>$100
woah here’s my social security number and a semen sample

Lauren has pretty great genes preserving her physique through the weight loss.

she was annoying all season

All she did all season was roll her eyes. Don't know how people find her endearing

She clearly suffered the island conditions because for some reason her body rejected rice and she still made an honest effort at almost all immunities. I wasn't a fan of hers but she was hot, her personality wasn't atrocious, and she made it pretty far even after her meal ticket Wentworth was canned. She wasn't great but she wasn't bad TV.

Reddit is so mad Chris won LOL I love it

Old Rob is either going to be horrible or kino, there is no middle ground
>tfw he’s only 43, must be the 4 daughters

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JUST

He ended up having 4 daughters!? What a cuck!!!

>Ambuh please give me son, Ahm beggin ya

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>Yfw

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>Comes out with a fedora and a "lil hantz" birth mark

Aaaambuh wiiiye!

Why didnt gavin make fire in f4 and why was there no vote?

Did they change how final 4 tribal works? For example the 3 people could have voted chris out since he gave up his idol, why was gaven also safe?

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Can someone please explain to me why the fuck I find Aubry so god damn attractive? I just don't get it. Lauren is a fucking smoke show and Victoria is qt as fuck, even Aurora is nice and /fit/. But for some fucking reason if I had my choice I'd still pick Aubry every day of teh week and I don't know why. Am not jew

They changed it a few seasons ago in order to let a wacky idol man win. F4 is no longer actual Survivor, instead the Immunity winner picks one person to automatically proceed to the finals while the other two make fire to see who stays.

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wait, are you guys kidding? did somebody really leave on the third episode only to come back in the last episode and win? i didn’t watch this season, is that really what happened?

Yes.

Poor weatherman choked when it mattered most (twice). By the way, what's a good season of Big Brother to start watching?

holy shit, and to think I thought the season concepts couldnt get worse.
Were forced to see these two fucking dinosaurs all season, might as well be called edge of extinction 2.

would/10 still though

no, she was cute and humble

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