Thread for those who've been watching cinema seriously for 5+ years and have advanced past blockbusters and other lowbrow schlock.
Don't be offended, this is not meant to be pretentious, it's just that some of us have more developed tastes. Do not troll or derail the thread with off-topic discussion.
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What good films have you been enjoying lately?
the thread for advanced shitters
>Letterboxd/RYM/karagarga profile
Fuck off to tumblr with that shit.
Anyway, I'm getting into Straub and Hulliet.
Nothing by that stupid little retard Godard, that's for sure.
>What good films have you been enjoying lately?
Some early Yang and late Berlanga films, That day on the beach, Taipei story and The terrorizers from the former and La escopeta nacional and La vaqulla from the later.
I wish I have a Karagarga account btw...
>all directors are featured only once
>two bunuel films
One job
what's your top 5 action films?
Mine are:
1. Die Hard
2. Natural Born Killers
3. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
4. Total Recall
5. Robocop
6. Predator
Is it true that you cinephiles don't like action films or can't enjoy them? I rarely see them in your top 10 lists. Why is that? What do they lack? How do you make action film art? What's the most artistic action film? Is it Kill Bill? What's the best action film from this decade from an arthouse-perspective?
Which action film has the best cinematography and why?
>Is it true that you cinephiles don't like action films or can't enjoy them?
Not true.
Tarkovsky was impressed by terminator. Herzog went on record saying he liked kung fu films (although he said it more as a jab to godard). Bresson said that a James Bond movie filled his heart with wonder. Wong Kar Wai directed a martial movie.
There is a purity to certain type of action movies that films concerned with the passing-on of ideas often lack. Moving images we look at for their own sake. Cinema at its most essential.
If I had to pick the most artistic action film (whatever that means) it would be Zhang Yimou's Hero, a samurai flick from either Kobayashi or Kurosawa, something from the Korean new wave, or something by Refn.
My top 5 action films are:
1. The raid 1 and 2
2. Kung fu hustle
3. Hero
4. Terminator
5. Hard boiled
>T2
>Kung Fu Hustle
Tippy-top tier.
Shit, I totally forgot Hard Boiled and also Demolition Man deserves a mention from me.
I think action-films have gotten a bad reputation because of James Bond and how overthetop and unrealistic the plot/action of that franchise is. Making smooth choreography that blends with the cinematography and audiography is a craft of art that not many directors posesses.
Your list is pretty solid, although I can't understand why you rate The Raid that highly. It's basically nonstop choreography that though it's really well made doesn't progress the film in a satisfying way.
T2 has it's faults yes. It's too polished and lacks the rawness of the other great action films of that time. But it also showed that you didn't need all that violence, or rather human blood, to make a thrilling and intense scene. What you get in T2 are two super-impressive car/helicopter chases that hasn't been outclassed in 25 years, two-three really great duels between the terminators, as well as some pretty rad shootouts and explosions and a great display of range of weapons, from pistols, rifles, miniguns, shotguns. Not many action films can pack that into a movie together with a decent story. It's probably the greatest kid-action movie ever made, though I don't really know what the kids of these days think of it.
I like because I get a kick out of it
>tfw not yet a true kinoseur, but not some capeshit mong either
You can always become one of those pricks obsessed with b-movies and exploitation cinema.
Here is some entry kino list.
not an advanced art flick but just saw bad leitnaunt with harbey keitel and it was great. liked it better than the werner one which was also great.
recommend me some good shit to keep on watching tonight. I also recommend the film Birth by the guy who did the non kino alien rape film with scarlett johanson, which sucked major ass. saw both yesterday. scarlett is ugly as fuck and was only worthy of this lords cum back in ghost world
beats being a capeshit retard any day bud
Straub-Hulliet, Manuel De Oliveira, Jean-Luc Godard, the list goes on...
>all but 7
I should probably see those as well, but I'm too busy watching magical girls anime lately
thank you, well I have watched 22 of these so I guess I have quite a few more to go. it will be good
Goddamn the scene where he makes those girls simulate a fellatio make me rock hard every fucking time.
I guess you could watch some Noe film or Bronson by Refn. They kinda give me the same vibe. You've probably already seen them.
It´s an entry level chart, anyway
Which are those seven you didn´t watch yet?
>Gospel according to st. matthew
Watched about half of pasolini films before deciding that I didn't get anything out of his works, though this I always kept on hold because I tend to like religious films
>Gertrud
Huge shortcoming from my part I admit
>Badlands
Never been fond of malik
>Journey to italy
Definitely should have seen it by now. Idk why I didn't still.
>Kes
Never seen any by this director
>Beau travail
LGBT films bore me on average unless they are by Fassbinder
>Zero de conduite
Legitimely never heard of this before. What's up with that?
based fpbp
Gertrud is great, but I reccomend you watch Dreyer´s other big works before getting into this one, it´his sparsest film and it feels like a farewell
Badlands is, along with Days of Heaven, the best way to get into Mallick, give it a shot.
Kes is good, but you must enjoy social commentaries and really miserable settings and human beings
Beau travail is also great and quite subtle for a LGBT movie (but not as good as Happy Together in my opinion, the greates gay movie ever made)
It´s been a long time since I watched "A gospel..", I need to watch it again one of these days...
I should be more or less on par with Dreyer's big works.
I liked days of heaven, but it's the only movie by malick I liked. Idk might give it a shot one day.
I'm usually fine with miserable films, but that's not an exact science. I love lav diaz for instance.
Agreed on happy together, but I think it is good mainly because it is a great love story that happens to be aboout fags.
hes better than the rest of those hacks
No he isn't, and those aren't even his best films
Block's your path
>those aren't even his best films
This, Los olvidados master race
I like the discrete charme of the bourgeoisie and phantom of liberty
What's Yea Forums's opinion on Marco Bellocchio? Is he good? Where should i start with him?
Just go to Yea Forums if you want to talk about teenage art hoe shit with mid 20s male snobs
Have you seen any films by John Woo?
Hard boiled, a better tomorrow and face /off are kino, MI2 is underrated imo
He makes quality action kino which is accepted by most as having artistic value
Sbatti il mostro in prima pagina and I pugni in tasca are a good starting point.
He's a fine filmmaker, but italian social commentaries movies are a dime a dozen really.
Thanks, i will check those out. He has a new film in cannes which looks very interesting, Il Traditore.