What the fuck was this. Game of Thrones is supposed to be a low magic setting. Not fucking Dungeons & Dragons...

Is low magic even a thing? I've heard of high and low fantasy, but never high or low magic kek

Too bad there’s way more magic in the books than in the show. The show hasn’t even touched euron’s kraken powers

Euron doesn't have kraken powers in the books you fucking retard

>A firemage in Qarth could use flames like a ladder than teleport. Nothing ridiculous like this.
>use flames like a ladder than teleport
>Nothing ridiculous

Attached: eeh.jpg (623x735, 238K)

High fantasy takes place apart from the real world. Low fantasy is present in our reality. Whether a fictional piece is high or low magic depends entirely on how much is explained, or how much is in your face. GoT and LotR are high fantasies with low magic.

t. illiterate mentally retarded low iq burger

insh'allah brother

Gee it's almost like they've been off-book for several seasons or something

based grrm

Have sex

all the surrounding wood was doused with gasoline retard

Attached: 96uucbv2nuu21.jpg (1242x1232, 86K)

Okay now explain the hundreds of swords

Victarion is not on the show

All of that is low magic.

magic
aint gotta explain shit

Imagine not reading the books

Read the preview chapter.

nigger they ride giant ice spiders in the book

you need to be an incredibly angry virgin like
to truly understand

>reincarnation is low magic
>making a really big ring of fire is high magic
based retard

Attached: 1502294906400.gif (320x272, 2.71M)

>The White Walkers in the books never summoned the fucking weather
A storm followed the attack at the Fist of the First Men
>The red priests never conjured fire barriers or precisely lit hundreds of swords on fire
Because the book hasn't gotten that far
>The head red priest (Benerro) of Volantis only traced runes mid-air using flame. A firemage in Qarth could use flames like a ladder than teleport. Nothing ridiculous like this. Fuck it.
Teleporting isn't significant? What about Thoros, who has brought someone back to life 6 fucking times? How about Moqorro giving Victarion a fucking lava hand?
>So why the fuck is the Night's King this superhuman fuckbag who can throw a spear really fucking well like the fucking Hulk?
There is no "Night King" in the book

>resurrection is low magic

>Chapters are told from a character's point of view

Have you ever considered that the narrator is unreliable? Or that characters believe magic is real, so this influences their perception, just like religious people witnessing miracles.

who gives a shit? christ what a pathetic loser

Attached: 1487487096347.gif (250x233, 1.5M)

Thoros of Myr revives Beric multiple times, who then revives Catelyn Stark.

You know resurrection indisputably happens in the show and the book, right?
There is also a pov character who personally gets a fucking lava hand

>The White Walkers in the books never summoned the fucking weather.

They make worse. The night king brings eternal night. He literally stops the planet's rotation and translation

Hey its in the shape of the dothraki weapons that she lit on fire

>indisputably happens

How could you prove this when all your information comes from a subjective POV?

Westeros has more magic in it than Lotr and this is your argument

How is a bloated corpse in a river being brought back to life subjective?

BAD WRITING
You want logical explanations for your show but you won't get them. Do you want to know the real answer? It happened because D&D thought it would look cool.
That's it. Nothing further to look into. That's all there is to it.

Because you don't know it was actually brought back to life. Everything you 'know' is filtered through the perception and interpretation of a character with a subjective bias. So if you had a character who was particularly religiously inclined or predisposed to believing in magic, they might be easily convinced that someone was 'resurrected' or brought back from the dead when in fact they were just resuscitated, or they were wounded but not totally gone. Most of it isn't even directly described, but comes from second or third hand reports from characters we KNOW are biased - e.g. Thoros.

calm down, freak
its just a garbage TV show

you heard the queen. have sex, incel!

>Because you don't know it was actually brought back to life
The pov saw it get up and start coughing words out of her cut vocal cords. What do you mean it isn't alive?
>they might be easily convinced that someone was 'resurrected' or brought back from the dead when in fact they were just resuscitated, or they were wounded but not totally gone
We aren't talking about Aeron Damphair giving Ironborn that are drowning themselves in religious ceremony CPR.
We are talking about a week old bloated corpse with it's throat slit ear to ear being fished out of a river and revived infront of a pov character.

i don't think you're right.

i thought there was an idea in the books that with the appearance of the Others and the return of dragons... that magic (which had been dormant and almost gone) was making a return to the world.

I could've sworn I remember reading something about the red priests climbing ropes of fire.

I think that specific red priests parlor tricks used to be far less impressive, and that with the return of magic to the world he (and magic in general) was getting stronger or something.

>giving birth to a demon baby is low magic

I'm not saying it's actually the case, but it's worth considering certainly for some events, especially anything narrated by Dany. If GRRM were a better writer he'd play with the whole idea of the unreliable narrator more.

>The White Walkers in the books never summoned the fucking weather.
Yeah they did retard

Still see no krakens

>bringing someone back who died recently is high magic
>lava hand not black, charred hand

Did you even read the fucking book?

>but it's worth considering certainly for some events
Just not the ones you were trying to argue?

[citation needed]

Krakens are the culmination of the battle of blood. Summoning them isn't magic, he's just going to dump a ton of blood in the water.
More likely he intends on doing something when the kraken shows up, like sacrificing all the priests to try and bind it to him or something

Nice theory idiot

>resurrecting someone who was lanced through the heart, as well as half a dozen other ways he died isn't high magic
>resurrecting a bloated week old corpse that you fished out of a river isn't high magic
>healing an infected and festering wound by torching the entire hand, which then becomes stronger and hard
Did you even read the fucking book?

>What the fuck was this. Game of Thrones is supposed to be a low magic setting. Not fucking Dungeons & Dragons. The White Walkers in the books never summoned the fucking weather. The red priests never conjured fire barriers or precisely lit hundreds of swords on fire.

Did you read the books, you fucking mongrel?

Because in the books it's openly accepted that magic exists, dragon riders ruled the earth mere 300 years ago, Gods are real, as are monsters (Krakens, children of the forest, etc, etc, etc)

The only thing who's existence is doubted is the Others (white walkers) more so because people just dont want to believe that there could be an overpowering danger that's stronger than all the Great Houses combined (which is why common people believe in it and the lords dont)

It's only in the TV series that they changed the setting to >muh generic medieval world with some MYSTERIES like MAGIC and WHITE WALKERS. A song of Ice and Fire never was Twin Peaks in medieval ages. Only the Game of Thrones is.

No, he's right. Magic wasn't D&D horse shit either back then, it involved sacrifice and it was all very niche. The setting is low magic no matter the era it takes place in.

Let's hear what you think Euron is doing with half a dozen priests from different religions bound to the prows of his ships, and a giant cog filled with blood?

Oh noes. Healing magic is high magic. Jesus Christ you are brain dead. Maybe if they resurrected bodies from the fucking soil and hundreds at that, sure, but... No. Just no. You're a deluded dumbass. Good bye.

>Maybe if they resurrected bodies from the fucking soil and hundreds at that, sure
what, like the Others do?

Necromancy, you mean? I don't see them bringing them back to life, biological functions and all, dipshit. kek, you are pretending to be a book reader and this is hilarious.

>glass candles
>resurrection
>pyromancy
>undeath
>colder than any normal cold whenever the others arrive.
Stop pretending to have read the books and go hit the wiki more

>No, he's right
No, he isn't. Magic is referenced in both the book and the show as getting stronger with the return of dragons (or the red comet, or anything else it could happen to coincide with it). Glass candles that haven't been alight for hundreds of years are working again. People that were only able to do parlor tricks are now climbing ladders of fire.
>dude resurrecting a week old bloated corpse isn't high magic
>Jesus Christ you are brain dead. Maybe if they resurrected bodies from the fucking soil and hundreds at that, sure, but... No. Just no. You're a deluded dumbass
Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle nigger

>Gods are real
No. Martin is leaving this vague. It could just be their faith + magic. I mean, go back up and see what Martin said. Fucking child.

I hope this is an attempt at bait

>I don't see them bringing them back to life, biological functions and all, dipshit
nor are the fire wights in the book. Beric and Lady Stoneheart don't have a heartbeat but they're clearly more than just reanimated corpses.
Just because the magic isn't Elder Scrolls/DnD hurling fireballs doesn't mean it's not 'high magic', it's very clearly a magical setting

Okay, guy. Go against the words of the writer. GoT has always been a low magic setting, and you're an utter and literal brainlet for thinking anything other.

Attached: 1533402301424.jpg (1280x720, 61K)

This thread ended here D&D kiddos go back to /tg/

>bringing people back from the dead is less impressive than starting a fire
You need to seek professional help, user.

Fire from nothing is more impressive than reviving biological functions that already/formerly existed, yes.

You are retarded if you think resurrection is low magic.
It isn't. You're just wrong.

you are literally complaining about the climax of the magic side of the story. The bring a terrible cold with them anyway, why is a blizzard such a big deal. You literally can't compare the night king with the books at all. The books are fairly low magic, the show has always been medium to highs

>GoT has always been a low magic
yeah, because a wall made of ice thousands of feet high built to protect against a race of ice elves that raise the dead and are diametrically opposed to the god of fire are all definite 'low magic' elements

No, it isn't.

>going against martin like an idiot
Thanks for agreeing with the OP

Okay, you're apparently a brainlet then. If you started fire using magic using actual, flammable materials, you'd have a point. But from blood/nothing? No, that's far more impressive than re-instigating biological functions. This isn't even remotely debateable.

Sorry, just repeating the author. If you don't like it, I guess you an choke on my throbbing cock.

It doesn't matter what the writer says when we have clear use of magic in the series.
And it doesn't matter what you think or how you feel, resurrection is high magic.
No, it isn't debatable. Resurrecting a week old corpse is way more impressive than setting some swords on fire, which I might add Beric has been doing with his own blood for like 5 seasons now.

>Martin calls GoT and LotR low magic
>this royally devastates the Yea Forums faggots

Cope more. You're not the authority here. The fat man has you beat. If you think resurrection is high magic, your idea of what low magic is must be a sour, paltry, pathetic little thing. You are a funny guy, guy.

>You're not the authority here
Neither are you
>The fat man has you beat
I can call my dodge a ferrari, but it doesn't make it true.
>reee resurrection isn't high magic!
Yes it is, go cry about it on /tg/

Imagine being this schizophrenic

Nah, not high magic. You're pissed the writer said a thing you don't very much appreciate, eh? You're a little bitch baby. Sad. I await your next pathetic excuse for a response.

Point to the part where grrm says that resurrection is low magic and stating fires is high magic. A large part of the books, and that entire point of that quote, is showing how the introduction of strong magic is warping what had been a mostly low magic society.

>if you disagree with my dnd ruleset you must be schizo
yikes
>Nah, not high magic
It is.
>You're pissed the writer said a thing you don't very much appreciate, eh?
He can say whatever he wants, he's just wrong.
>You're a little bitch baby. Sad. I await your next pathetic excuse for a response
Weak bait

Jesus Christ how do people like this even stay alive? I really hope this whole thread is some weird bait.

A large part of the books is that the series is incredibly low on the magic. If you haven't already gathered this, you're intentionally fan-interpreting the series as something Martin did not, just not, set out to do. Magic is returning, this doesn't actually make it high magic when the magic itself isn't explained, is unwieldy, practically unusable, and the costs make it practically unworthwhile. There is no basis to call it high magic, especially not when the author itself calls it a low magic setting; see above or forever hold your status as an incredibly low-IQ imbecile.

Pretty sure it is, but it's usually amusing to engage anyway

>He can say whatever he wants, he's just wrong.
How is the author wrong about his own world and magic system? Are you intentionally being dense?

>this doesn't actually make it high magic when the magic itself isn't explained
It doesn't need to be explained. Resurrection, which has indisputably happened in the books and the show, is high magic.
It doesn't matter who calls it low magic.

That's not high magic. You calling it high magic doesn't make it high magic. You haven't even applied your reasoning behind this view.

This is a Daewoo K1a automatic carbine rifle. Daewoo classifies this rifle as a submachine gun. Based on the definition of what a submachine gun is, the K1a is not a submachine gun. Therefore the manufacturer has misclassified their own rifle.

Attached: K1A.png (310x275, 22K)

No he's just the average Yea Forums mutt who pretends he's read the books

>A potato analogy
Um, okay. I see now you're not just dense, but mentally inadequate to continue this conversation.

You calling it low magic doesn't make it low magic, either.
How about you go back to /tg/ and circlejerk over some dnd rulebooks over what is and isn't high magic.
I read the books. That doesn't mean I have to accept a false definition. If anything I'd argue you are just misinterpreting a quote from George that was probably in reference to the world at the onset of the story.

What?
I think you might be retarded. Do you need me to call someone for you?

No, you obviously did not read the books. I am inclined to believe you're sour over a setting you want to enjoy, but just can't on its own.

Also, please substantiate your claims. You're going against Martin here, so, good fucking luck.

You still haven't given your reasonings behind your autistic and baseless opinions user

Attached: 1540419150603.jpg (440x410, 25K)

You clearly haven't read any of the books, sweaty.
And what do you think I need to substantiate? That resurrection isn't low magic? I would hope that it is pretty self explanatory.
Bringing the dead back to life is high magic, not low magic.
Why don't you try and justify classifying resurrection as low magic, instead of high magic?

You mean when magic was still thriving at the Wall and the far East? Did you even read Melisandre's PoV? The magic going away isn't some global thing, it's evidently a regional one.

You're a gigantic retard if you take anything Martin says seriously he contradicts himself, constantly switches between it being a very magical world and a magicless world.
Asshai and Valyria or extremely magical places yet we're supposed to believe only a tincy wincy bit of magic exists while people are communicating through dreams, morphing their faces, coming back to life, telepathically controlling animals, making pocket world's in towers, weaving Ice, doing whatever the fuck the shrouded lord does, rising dragons, moving lava with magic, being immune to fire and much much more

Attached: 1496754821934.png (277x271, 5K)

The east also has dragons.
Just as it's possible the far north does, as well as other sources of magic.

#CopeMore
#LowMagic

no u

user. Just stop. Go back to fanfiction.net if you want to write a D&D campaign setting for ASoIaF. You're just giving yourself much room here.

nice argument

Yes, and the way he implements all of that borders on the fringe and the low, so, low magic. You lost the moment you argued Martin was wrong on his own fucking magic system.

Not that guy, but maybe he is trying to summon a sea dragon? Nagga was a sea dragon

>The White Walkers in the books never summoned the fucking weather.
This isn't true. One character says of them "They come when it snows, or else it snows when they come" or something like that
>The red priests never conjured fire barriers or precisely lit hundreds of swords on fire.
This is true.

Why would I need to make fanfiction when common sense would dictate that resurrection isn't low magic?

isn't he right? i just read some chapters and something in fire and blood and that other book about his world, but while surely magic is mostly unpredictable stuff, it seems pretty heavily present even if with a high variation depending on the area

Then you lose this

Attached: 1544742468447.jpg (470x470, 31K)

Fuck the books! Books is for faggots anyways.

To an extent. The magic back then wasn't fireballs and rainbows. Martin had as much to say when Valyria was brought up. It wasn't common even then.

Okay now what makes you think healing/reviving magic is high magic in a world where gods probably aren't real and the afterlife probably doesn't exist? If said gods existed, had there been a provable afterlife, then yeah probably you'd have a point here.

Attached: 1542358223334.jpg (337x301, 106K)

It's amazing when you think about it
8 seasons, and noone is looking forward to be surprised next episode.

All the buildup hype for an amazing ending is gone.

We will get "an ending". Not "THE ending". And nobody cares, even after investing so much time on GoT.
Even the dullest franchise has THE ending, spending all the arcs, plots and shenanigans in the end.
It's amazing.

You still haven't given us your reasoning.

Martin is constantly fucking wrong about his own books! Watch his interviews he's a fucking moron. He made an extremely magical world as time passed yet is such a brainlet he considers it to still be a low magic fantasy series.
If you have wieldable magic
Magical places
Magical creatures
Magical races
Magical weapons
Magical items
Necromancy
Enchanting
Alchemy
You don't have a low magic fantasy series. His problems all stem back to how the books started off as low magic yet he continued to build and build upon magic too much.
Half of you are disagreeing simply for the sake of having an argument on a message board but the rest of you are legitimately retarded and haven't read the books

guess so, the part about Aerea ending up there due to Balerion was very nice, with all the weird stuff she came back with, which could be called magic but also any sort of weird parasitic life form
i think in general it's never a good idea to bring in resurrection magic, it always sounds dumb
in general i like how magic works here, even supposed experts are basically trying there luck and hoping it works, without any sort of landscape destroying magic

What makes this common sense, user? Do explain

Have sex

>Half of you are disagreeing simply for the sake of having an argument on a message board but the rest of you are legitimately retarded and haven't read the books
No we're just calling you out on your retardation.

Are you underaged

Attached: 1533539802352.jpg (1024x569, 109K)

B8

God you're fucking dumb. Like, SOOOO- dumb. I can't even describe how dumb you are. Dumb.

>You lost the moment you argued Martin was wrong on his own fucking magic system
People can be wrong about classifying their own creations since those classifications already have set definitions

Would be cool. A Kraken/Leviathan was seen off the coast of Dorne recently, though. So evidence suggests that is what is going to happen

Okay, user. Sure.

I don't see how gods or an afterlife is at all relevant.

Genuine question have you ever read the books or even watched Martin in interviews? He can't keep track of his own story and the books have gone completely overboard. He has to have people remind him what's going on in his own story. His other books range from fetishistic to dogshit and he got way over his own head with this series. He clearly lost control after the second book

>Genuine question have you ever read the books or even watched Martin in interviews?
No, user. You can't switch this on us. That's not how this works. Cute.

You're right I should have caught on to the b8 way earlier.

>Gandalf never tries to solve the problem by whipping up a potion or a spell. When he’s attacked he doesn’t throw lightning bolts from his fingernails, but picks up a sword like everyone else.
this always confused me as a kid

Shitty bait

Low magic is low because of the scarcity of its use. Not the fucking effects, unless literal cosmic-tier bullshit. The idiot calling GoT high magic is mentally insane

We all know you're one person

A dead guy writes more than the knock off.

limited mana, can't waste on little bitches, save for big spells
i never understood why a grandpa should be good at sword tho

>I don't like this person's opinion therefore it's bait

Attached: 1547159302276.jpg (328x396, 20K)

>Low magic is low because of the scarcity of its use
I disagree

You can stop now

But Martin still says you're wrong so you're wrong lol.

This.

Gandalf isn't human.

-"Fantasy needs magic in it, but I try to control the magic very strictly. You can have too much magic in fantasy very easily, and then it overwhelms everything and you lose all sense of realism. And I try to keep the magic magical — something mysterious and dark and dangerous, and something never completely understood. I don’t want to go down the route of having magic schools and classes where, if you say these six words, something will reliably happen. Magic doesn’t work that way. Magic is playing with forces you don’t completely understand. And perhaps with beings or deities you don’t completely understand. It should have a sense of peril about it."

I mean, he says it right here

>Game of Thrones is supposed to be a low magic setting
No it's not. The Others in the books are demons made of ice and cold, maybe still originally created from humans but they aren't the drauger looking dudes they were in the show.

The wall is made out of magic ice. The castle of storms end is made out of magic rocks. The continent Is covered in magic trees, it used to be inhabited by magical tiny forest folk, who can apparently cast magic missiles and explode reanimated corpses.

Read the lore about Valerya. It was some crazy futuristic magic society before the landmass exploded. There is blood magic, fire magic. In the faaaaaar east the city of winged men.

his body is human tho? dies like everyone else if you stab him, phisical power same as a human
saruman was stabbed by wormtongue like a bitch

“There is magic in my universe, but it’s pretty low magic compared to other fantasies.”
— George R.R. Martin

Even more

People can be wrong, even authors

"I think you gain a level of, I don’t know, realism. You’re not going to be careful in fantasy because it can easily pull apart. Magic is a particular — I mean, my fantasy is quite low magic compared to the majority of it out there. And in that sense, I was following Tolkien’s footsteps because if you actually look at Lord of the Rings as I did when I was writing this, Middle Earth is a very magical world in a sense, it’s a world of wonders and marvels and so forth, but there’s very little onstage magic. You know? You never see Gandalf doing a spell or, or creating throwing fireballs. You know, if there’s a fight, he draws a sword. You know? He does fireworks… his staff will glow. Minor stuff. Even the magic rings, I mean, the big powerful one ring, all we ever see it do is make people invisible."
-Martin

Key words
>"my fantasy is quite low magic"

Yup...

>No it's not
Hmmm...
And you're wrong for thinking he's wrong on the matter. He's bringing something up that plagues countless fictional pieces.

Isn't iron man way more filled with magic than got?

You sound retarded too holy shit

>us
Who is “us”? You and the voices? I thought I was supposed to be the schizophrenic one here?

Exactly. High fantasy with low magic. The faggots here are too illiterate to understand the difference.

The people shitting on your opinions presumably

Attached: 1530833330792.gif (375x375, 179K)

He’s a fucking angel basically

This thread is just you raging against the rest of the world. If you honestly can’t see that then god have mercy on you.

but his phisical output was always that of an old man, he couldnt run faster or longer than a normal human
he can respawn and doesnt need batteries on him when doing speleology but he shouldnt be particulary skilled with sword, unless he was granted magic sword ability, in which case he should be superior to anyone else, which doesnt seem the case

Its almost like people can afford to do that here

Magical physiology. It's pretty clear during his fight with the balrog. I'm more annoyed by the elf acrobatics in The Hobbit.

>The Hobbit
what about dwarf's barrel control magic
the fight between elrond, saruman and nazguls was kind of cool tho, probably because of the confusion

What kind of fucking low fantasy can you find in our reality ? You fucking retard, actually arguing about low and high magic. Its all supernatural

This is mid-low magic. Ice and Fire setting was low-low ALTOGETHER until Daeny's dragons hatched and then the potency of magic in that entire world went up. How things were before Valyria got owned isn't clear but I'd estimate high-low.

if you think asoiaf is low magic than dumbledore has to be gay.

It's "low" in the way that there's no clear cut magic system, no mana etc. There are magic users but in general they don't stand there in large armies spamming fireball etc. Yes he's wrong to call it low fantasy, it's very clear there are places in the world with it active, but the majority of the stories focused on early are just politics in a continent that thinks magic is dead, because for them, it basically is. It's their own hubris about sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring just how much magic there is, that is meant to make them ignore the legends of the past and be ill prepared.

you are thinking of hard vs soft

>low mid high mid-low mid-high low-low magic
the fuck are you talking about you fucking nerds

>writers are literally called D&D
>"Game of Thrones is supposed to be a low magic setting. Not fucking Dungeons & Dragons"

Attached: Cc.png (1200x675, 985K)

Gandalf was a guardian angel of mankind. He wanted to see the race of men triumph but at the same time he wasn't capable of doing everything himself and wanted them to unlock their own inner strength.

>Durrrr there's no magic!
>Besides these examples of magic and the dragons and the snow zombies and the huge continent-spanning wall and the children of the forest and Dany surviving the fire and the prophecies
>But besides all those there's no magic at all!

Attached: 1447866110791.png (224x205, 55K)

Doesn't John literally get resurrected by magic? ...And like, a bunch of other people in the books?

>magic has been slowly growing every season since the dragons were born.
that means dragons still living in Essos and Asshai because magic remained there to a certain level

jon is still dead in the books, beric gets resurrected like 8 times tho
>are you my mother thoros?
gets me every time

plus the old tully bag

>the books
Even GRRM gave up on his books, you should too

i dont understand how people can call books good when lady stoneheart exist

The books had a magic talking door that quipped at people

I don't understand why Lady Stoneheart is supposed to be inherently bad

everything beside hanging brienne of fucking tart

>D&D
>Writers
No such thing

>...Uh it's all bad?
Don't strain yourself too much here user

Gandalf literally threw exploding acorns are wolves in the Hobbit.

just burning, pines are dry and filled with inflammable resins

There's something fishy with red priest revival at least, something in their words resurrects. There's no major codifying magic system in the series, but fire resurrection is words, ice is a hand gesture, other magic require items/sacrifices, warg is pure mental. And it's clearly different to ice variant. At least in the books those resurrected are still fucking rotting (slowly), losing what little mind they have, genuinely still seem to be dead (none of that appearing all healed crap) etc. Fuck the show for not showing Jon slowly lose himself like Beric or Cat.

We know that no god/avatar of a god will show up, but there's also the weird 'guiding hand' aspect to some characters who are outside of Westeros, Bloodraven can't quite reach them properly to manipulate them into where they need to be. So there's probably more to Red God/Fire sight than just it being vague as fuck.

Are they supposed to stay alive only until they fullfill some task? Or just dude resurrect lmao.
Because Beric in the show died immediatly after saving Arya, but Jon seems like he was resurrected for shock effect and will live however he likes, according to spoilers.

>The White Walkers in the books never summoned the fucking weather.
[DOUBT]

>Game of Thrones is supposed to be a low magic setting
Wrong. I bet you're one of the retards who claim it's low fantasy too.

It's not clear. Red priests obviously think that there's a 'point' to the resurrections. We haven't seen an instance yet of attempting to resurrect 'non plot' characters and failing. Thoros is just morning his dead friend (and about the same time drags/comet have already happened) so he gets back up. Does it again with Cat.

The show also fucks up with Mel dying, so why didn't Jon, if it follows the pyramid scheme like ice? Like in the books it's not a real back to perfect health resurrection, the fuckers have holes in them.

low fantasy =/= low magic

he never said his setting was low fantasy

So a status like Benjen would be more accurate? He also jobbed when you could say he fullfilled his task, even if he did it in a pathetic dumb way.

Not him but could you briefly explain the difference?

You fucking retard need to realise you are arbitrarily categorizing a fictional mysticisim into two different things based on a notion recognize nowhere else but some fucking autistics forums on the internet. You act so highly about everyone not agreeing with your stupid claims because they make no sense when you are the one acting like a mentally chalenged autist.

...

Thats simply stupid, what purpose does it serves ? Its all magic, you cant explain shit, even when there are spells involved you cant understand it criticaly, you have to believe spells does magic because. Why does mana exist how its used or replenished whatever retard like you believing it can makes sense under some rules, its all fucking magic. you can say there is a little magic in this story but i prefer when theres lot of magic in my story. Fucking geek ridiculing others when he believe in concept of high and low magic that dont have any real standards

Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking faggot

Thats all you could ever respond in this thread to anyone chalenging you on your fucking stupidity

based No! poster

Nigger

Stupid autist

Weird example, undead Benjen is TV only. We don't know for sure if Coldhands is Benjen (it's more stated he's not because he's centuries old and had long affiliation with the children, they could be lying, but doubtful). Coldhands seems to be way more like ice revival, but still rational. He feels dead and cold like an ice wright, but his eyes ain't blue. It leads more towards the others are children's creation theory, showing they have a resurrection ability as well, but he's also somehow warded against going in the cave.

What? It's just a simple name/clarification for how much magic is in a setting. You're overthinking it.

Attached: confused black girl.jpg (403x389, 20K)

I see. But would it be all the same? The world of LOTR seems far more fantasy than got. There are species that don't exist, immortal elfs and so on, while in got you have men and that's it. Targaryens are more versed in taming dragons but they don't have specific talents (ignoring the fire resistance that i think doesn't exist in books).
Magic creatures like dragons can also be killed by conventional means, while killing a balrog seemed impossible with anything but other magic.
Ents were suckers tho, maybe it's just the balrog.

why didn't droggo just rip the night king apart with it's claws when fire didn't work?

They are definitely not perfectly alive again. The books make it out to be more wights, only they have their own minds still. Not mindless zombies like the ice wights. Fire ones are still undead walking around like living people.

Game of Thrones has the Others, Children, Ibbens, Giants, and the brindled men.

With others, children, and giants appearing in the show

>If magic is systematic, then it’s not magic

JK Rowling and getting dabbed on

Americans are disgusting pigs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Attached: Screenshot_20190516_012259.jpg (1080x1401, 373K)

What if Coldhands is Benjen's dead body, but the "centuries old" man warged into the body, having kept himself alive that way throughout the centuries? It's apparently hard to warg into another living human because the mind fights back, but that'd be taken care of if the person was already dead but animated by the Others, leaving a door open.

Its overcomplicate the thing. What point does it make to argue against people who dont agree with those arbitrary terms ? It would be fine of there were clear defined rules about. Instead its angry retarded nerds who act condescendingly against people who simply seeagic as magic. Its fucking retarded when you decide rules for something that doesnt even serves any purpose then act all high and mighty when somebody may (reasonably) disagree with your stupid arbitrary pointless rules

>tries to write fantasy
>writes degenerate shit
sucks at writing fantasy AND writing interesting political setups besides "I betrayed you and you'll die the most retarded way to surprise the brainlets"