>executed a man who tried to overthrow him >understood that kings must rule with fear >confident in his decisions >had pretenders to the throne killed >interest in hunting, swordplay, and military command as a young boy >cant be influenced except by margery but only for the better >didnt slaughter thousands of innocent women and children >knows curiosities on the far side of the world are still dangerous >charismatic when he wants to be >acts diplomatic and kingly when the time calls for it >asserts authority and obedience >he wasnt even an adult yet and he was like this
Something I found interesting about him too is he actually wasn't going to marry Margery because of the pact his father made, he would have still kept Sansa as his queen. It wasn't shown on screen often at all but he had loads of respect for Robert and the fighter that he was, even showing that by insulting Tywin to his face talking about it.
Landon Morris
And look how fast the Sword of Damocles beheaded him.
Nathan Myers
>executed a man who tried to overthrow him >so why again was he a "bad king"?
Joffrey sends Ned to the wall, he's both rid of him and he doesn't have to deal with the North going to war with him. He trades back Jaime for the Stark sisters and they find peace.
Ned becomes Lord Commander after Jeor dies. Stannis still goes to the wall, but Winterfell isn't razed and seized by the Boltons. Maybe he and Ned do something together? There's no reason to make the same deal he tried with Jon since Robb is now Lord of Winterfell.
Cameron Lee
Nigga pls, my left nut is more charismatic than him, also >didnt slaughter thousands of innocent women and children did you miss the part when he had roberts bastards butchered, including babies
Liam Clark
if they had heard him about the dragons everything would have been fine if the people around him werent stupid and didnt let arya get way things would have been fine if tyrion just let everyone die and stannis win everything would have been fine
joffrey did nothing wrong, tyrion did everything wrong but still joffrey is seem as the bad guy perspective is a hell of a thing isnt it
Oliver Collins
If he had just executed targ loyalists like varys and sent his mom away and let tywin rule he could have lived a good life
Jeremiah Lee
Did you forget when he rips out a man's tongue for singing a slightly-offensive song and when he orders the kingsguard to abuse Sansa? Also when he crossbowed the whores?
Connor Howard
He was such a prick to those around him and didn't play the game that he got himself poisoned. Tywin was much more kingly and is shown in the one scene where they send him to bed so the actual members of the small council can speak.
>so why again was he a "bad king"? He was cruel and sadistic, as well as a moron. The battle of the blackwater is why he was a shit king
Carter Collins
that shit with the whores was a creation of the show to make him look bad, make no mistake the joff is based
Jacob Gomez
>start thread on Yea Forums - television & film >op image from tv show >"b-but the book is different!" pathetic
Elijah Rivera
That tongue scene was so brutal. I hate any kind of mouth stuff.
Brandon Fisher
>didnt slaughter thousands of innocent women and children He kind of did, or at least his armies under the liutenants HE CHOSE.
>kingly when the time calls for it Did not lead his troops to victory, or even stand behind them giving orders during the siege of his castle.
>so why again was he a "bad king"? He failed to use his spy master to his advantage, allowing an assasination plot to take place under his nose. Failed to use his king hand to his advantage, allowing internal strife. He failed to predict that a man in such a position is bound to experience an assasination plot or a few, he should have hired a food and drink taster. He also failed to contain his arrogance, by tormenting the dwarf he created the perfect escape goat that allowed his assasins to get away cleanly with his murder.
He was a fool.
Gavin Murphy
But user He was a cunt to characters we liked, so we're supposed to hate him.
Nathan Scott
can you elaborate ? he didnt want to marry Margery ? Also when did he insult Tywin ? I dont recall...
Nolan Johnson
>seething tranny mad that the book isn't as pozzed as his show dilate
Easton Roberts
tfw you are brain is so broken you admire and idolize an objectively bad person
Colton Robinson
>Also when he crossbowed the whores? Based whoreslayer. Protector of the viewer and the realm from shitty OC characters. If only he had been around to slay Olyvar.
he had a pee pee only front hole persons are good rulers
Christopher Reyes
You can find the scene where they first meet. It took convincing from not only his own mother but the maester to have him go away from who his father wanted for him. The Tywin insult was about him not winning the war and hiding, how it was Robert that was the hero.
Henry Reed
The real truth is that LF was right Ned coulda wipped this boy into shape after sending his mother away, and with LFs help coulda made him into a force to be reckoned with
Dominic Miller
Regent Ned trying to teach Prince Joffrey how not to be a cunt What better show could you ask for?
Leo Baker
he was young, whiny and fruity so things he said that were "normal" coming from Daenerys' mouth sounded gay and unmanly and unworthy hence evil
there was never any difference between him and miss "I'm entitled to invade other people's home because it's actually mine bc dragons" (while telling middle eastern men that their fathers' wealth didnt belong to them and they werent entitled to it unlike her and the throne)
He was a bratty spoiled mentally unstable edgelord, who was desperate to prove how badass he was and didn't even bothered to understood how politics work. Kings like him are laughted at throughout history.
Brody Ortiz
>bratty spoiled mentally unstable edgelord, who was desperate to prove how badass he was and didn't even bothered to understood how politics work. >Kings like him are laughted at throughout history.
>Help him Ned! >But Robert, the boy is a bastard not of your blood... >don't you think I know that Ned, seven kingdoms couldn't make me forget the cucking Rhaegar gave me, so don't tell me I wouldn't know when it was happening in my own keep! >then why Joffrey? >the boy is evil Ned, he'll fuck the so called great houses into the ground and from their bloody carcasses will rise a nation state, with an army Ned! A real, professional standing army with one purpose, destroying that Targ bitch and her spawn with her.
Samuel Foster
Alexander was an autistic sperg-lord. He only cared about conquering and he was so good at it no one could get on his way, even though he was shite at everything else a ruler is supposed to do.
James Harris
yeah it's her at her youngest, she had to be hot and even show nudity
later on she's all "lol what are they gonna do, fire me?"
STANNIS Don't you shit on the most based man the seven kingdoms have ever seen you serf
Anthony Green
THATS SHOW CANON NOT BOOK CANON
Connor Wood
I wasnt shitting on the Mannis just pointing out that a character not known for his charisma (in the social sense we all know that the mannis inspires by being a man of action) is still more charismatic than fucking joffrey.
Joffrey fags are very delusional, but at least they saw their boi go down in his prime and not crashing and burning.
Kayden Thomas
He was very. very, very annoying.
Liam Edwards
It always confuses me that the stormlords are known for being warriors but side with an untested boy instead of one of the greatest warriors in the realm.
As far as I understand Stannis wasn't a great warrior, he was a great commander. His personal combat skills aren't really mentioned, just that he's a genius strategist and a great leader who inspires loyality. But yeah, your point is a good one, unless Renly maxed out Charisma
>killed innocent women >made the hound kill a boy he didn't liked
What a great guy. Am I right?
Adrian Bennett
Though to his credit he never blew up an entire city.
Angel Campbell
And not a single stormlord realized that the Baratheon they were backing was nothing but a puppet of Highgarden. Then when they lose in the blackwater most bend the knee to joff, not exactly the most competent bunch are they
Jose Gutierrez
the same reason people dont like tywin, hes a meanie :((
Aaron Ward
Don’t a lot of people like Tywin?
Isaac Fisher
not the normies whom cheer for danny
Hunter Morris
>letting a woman make his decisons more like letting his mother make his decisions which is okay for i child >into gingers based >hated dogs muslim confirmed yes, that's the point where he looses me too
Aiden Nelson
Joffrey is 19 in season 4 and irl Kings started their personal rule at 16
Julian Foster
no way! source for that?
Liam Collins
See:
Jayden Diaz
actor or character? that's no source >Age: 15 in Season 4 see, equally good source
Parker Fisher
The blond hair meant he was this guy's son The family resemblance is uncanny isn't it
I miss this smug cunt like you wouldn't believe, shame the actor fell off the face of the world. If he got jacked he could play a perfect evil aryan in those Creed movies.
>It took convincing from not only his own mother but the maester to have him go away from who his father wanted for him It was also that he had made a vow to marry Sansa and didn't want to break that vow, which puts him leagues above Robb. He did decide not to marry her though.
Evan Lewis
They already had Cersei's wig which was cheaper than hair dye, they needed ever last cent of budget for those dragons.
Jeremiah Stewart
Its because he enjoyed tormenting sansa not out of anything decent
Jack Gleason (Geoffrey) never wanted to be an actor. He wants to be a professor of ancient languages and acting was just a hobby for him. So he pretty much quit after GoT.
Matthew Morgan
I really wish there was some sort of explaination as to why theyre so fickle and retarded only the ironborn and maybe riverlands novles come close to how boneheaded the stormlords behave.
I really disliked the scene where he forces Ros to beat the other protitute. Being fucked is one thing but the fact he gives Ros a scepter with the noble baratheon stag on it to do the deed just seems disgraceful and insulting to his heritage and the royal iconography.
Thomas Torres
Good for him.
Charles Wright
it was symbolizing the stag domination over others
Camden Hernandez
it was a jape
Mason Lee
Prostitution is degenerate user, he'd get Westeros rid of this abomination one whore at a time.
Jacob Anderson
Incredibly based and redpilled
Joffrey was too good for this world
Ayden Rogers
>dominating protitutes very authoritative. But seriously if i was a king and found out my predecessor used the royal scepter to torture prostitutes id be pretty disgusted even holding the object.
Jackson Smith
>t. lolbertarian
Jackson Powell
he wasnt exactly in a sane state of mind
Justin Thomas
I mean, if he had a dragon I wouldn't put it past him to burn some villages for sport.
Daniel Hill
>executed him >started a rebellion
great work faggot, should have just sent him to the wall
Nathan Nelson
and that's why you will never rule the seven kingdoms, faggit
Nicholas Hall
>not wanting to sully the dignity of royal regalia and treating the family sigil with respect is a bad thing Ok then
Connor Nelson
Stannis one upped Joff by trying to ban all brothels period
He kept her around (partially) to torment her, though he couldn't have gotten rid of her as she was a valuable hostage, but he actually did intend to marry her based on his previous vow.
Noah Robinson
>Letting your enemy live so he can keep plotting against you...
user I...
Jaxson Allen
>ned stark >night watch >plot lmao are you fucked user
Hudson Diaz
He only kept her around to abuse her and his forcing to marry him so shes stuck in that prediciment forever is a really shitty thing to do
Carson Hill
You missed his most based line >I've considered making their perversion punishable by death
