Suppose for a moment that the War of Five Kings and all that never happened and that Robert is still on the Iron Throne, not dead from getting tusk-raped by a pig. The continent is not exhausted from war and the Westerosi political landscape is stable and agreeable.
Now have Dany's path through Essos play out exactly as it already has, with no changes. She becomes Khaleesi, burns a bunch of fuckers, crucifies some people, breaks a few chains while being smugly in love with herself, etc. She has all three dragons, her Dothraki, her Unsullied, and so on, and she's finally coming home to claim her birthright by fire and blood and also probably a lot of rape from her troupes along the way.
Does Westeros stand a chance if they band together? If the North united with the South and the Lannisters stopped being abrasive self-important cunts for a bit, would they be able to stand up to Dany and her unified military might, dragons included? A single one was more than enough to utterly decimate the largest city on the continent and bring a military to lay down their swords, but having character like Tywin and Olenna back in the game as strategists for the unified army could result in some clever tactics that can help to even the odds.
>clever tactics that can help against dragons Name one. And don't say ballista.
Xavier Edwards
Tywin would betray Robert.
Dorne sided with Daenerys.
Martels are opportunist cunts ss usual and wait until they see who has the upper hand and join the winning side.
Ayden Sullivan
Seducing them.
Jaxson Wilson
I for one would like plague or poison gas bombs designed by the maesters. Huck a couple hundred up into the air and have Drogon and his brothers breath in sweet death before they can so much as flap it away with their wings.
Angel Butler
My guess would be that Dorne would outright side with Danny, the Reach would try to arrange a marriage between Loras and Danny (perhaps Littlefinger would try and squeeze himself into the negotiations to gain favor with Danny), and the Iron Islands would use the chaos to raid the North and the Westerlands.
The rest of the kingdom might try to somewhat unite and put up a fight, but they would lack the manpower to defeat her. And the Vale might try to stay neutral and side with whoever the winner is (especially if Littlefinger is somewhat in charge over there at that time)
Easton Sanders
There's really not that much you can do against dragons. Westeros would win only if Tywin or someone else arranged assassination of Dany or some archer got a lucky shot when she's flying burning everyone.
Asher Scott
Yeah just start lobbing poison into the air, that'll work.
>plague Actually this. Give a few sheep and cattle the Grey Plague or something, dot them all along the path to King's Landing, let them shop their disease around, and let the dragons kill themselves while eating tainted meat.
Luis Sullivan
Just have sex already ffs.
Hunter Johnson
Can dragons contract greyscale? Can dragons even get sick at all?
Before the new dragons were born the old ones were said to have grown smaller and more sickly as time went on (one had the skull the size of an apple tywin said), idk if it was some kind of dragon inbreeding or just their dragon magic waning from the world
Robert Long
Why wouldn't they be able to? They've living biological organisms, magical or not. We have no reason to think they have special immune systems.
Adam Ross
They would use the dragon control horn to bring the dragons to their side or at least cause enough confusion to kill them. But realistically the 5k unsullied and 100k dothraki are not enough to win without the dragons. Each of the 7 kingdoms of Westeros could easily field 50k each.
Dylan Martinez
The same thing really. Even their madness could be because they were never in full control of their abilities.
Dorne is key. You land there and make the alliance. After that you start burning the Reach until the Tyrell's bend the knee.
Caleb Gutierrez
Not an argument.
Sebastian Kelly
Could gathering up the citizens and harnessing their braps and shooting them at the dragons work?
Robert Morris
The original book conceit is that they likely would, yes, but that the self-inflicted chaos in Westeros is causing them weaken while they turn a blind eye to the threat in Essos
Joshua Lewis
Load a ship with wildfire, surround wildfire shrapnel. Dragons burns ship, ship explodes, shrapnel tears dragon apart.
Hunter Gomez
Just kill the bitch herself. Dany has been shown to be retarded (or rather it is the showrunners who are retarded) therefore if we are talking about show Dany, just assassinate her
Carson Perez
except that those are the exact same conditions Aegon had and he was able to conquer the 7 kingdoms just fine.
Jayden Parker
>Tywin would betray Robert. No he wouldn't. Robert's "son" is a Lannister, Tywin if nothing else always puts his legacy first.
Wyatt Hall
There isn't anything they could realistically do to stop her 3 dragons.
Nathaniel Evans
Ballistas/Scorpions exist.
Hudson Gutierrez
Dragons are supposedly intelligent. Would they throw a tantrum burninating the countryside of Westeros out of revenge if mommy was assassinated?
Maybe, but plenty of dragon riders have died in the past and most of the time someone else ends up bonding, and become the dragons new rider.
Connor Sullivan
They’ve killed a dragon before in Aegon’s War of Conquest, dipshit.
Levi White
No, it's >don't suggest D&Ds shitty fanfiction for killing dragons It took years and tremendous luck to kill one. In OP's scenario Dany has three.
Wyatt Hill
And in reality you would never be able to hit a dragon with it. It takes minutes to aim and load one. You can't hit a fast flying target with that.
Jaxson Jones
Aegon also had 2 other riders and dragons with valyrian steel swords.
Elijah Walker
The Targs wouldn't let them fly free anymore, they all withered and died from being held in dragonpits
Nathaniel Campbell
Danycucks on suicide watch
Benjamin King
>don't suggest D&Ds shitty fanfiction for killing dragons It’s canon that Meraxes was shot down by a scorpion. Cope harder.
Aaron Morgan
I thought they only let Targs ride them. Is that not true? Are there examples from the books of non-Targs riding them in the past once their original owners died? Because the only other one left is Jon, I guess, and he might not even know about his lineage when Dany comes.
Aiden Harris
With one, sure. With a hundred, who knows
Grayson Reyes
You could just send spies/blackmail one of the main advisers in Danery's camp then whenever she's dead killing a couple of dragons is as easy as killing a bear
Asher Evans
Holy shit you idiot, I addressed that. The bottom line is an unprepared Westeros is absolutely fucked by dragons, and it would take years of preparation to maybe stand a chance.
Ryan Thomas
This chick's dragon was shot in the eye with a Dornish(?) one in the books, and she fell off it and died with it. You are factually wrong. Scorpions are Martin's idea, not the showrunners'.
They were even more unprepared when they were 7 separate kingdoms, you stupid fuck. Again, cope harder.
Justin Gomez
You have to be of Valyrian descent. Everyone who has ever ridden a dragon has been in some way Valyrian. *Most* Valyrian people who ever lived in Westeros were in some way related to Targs but not all.
Robert Anderson
Why are Dornishchads so based?
Oliver Flores
No. Daenerys wins in every situation. user, there's something you haven't noticed: Daenerys is the villain. She has the Death Star. She has the One Ring. You ever wonder why the heroes don't have that all powerful shit? Because the villains should not be easily defeated. Instead the heroes have the tool to defeat the villain's super weapon, which require great bravery to be used. Valyrian steel is the sharpest metal on the world. Dragons have scales as though as iron. Gee, I wonder what this metal is used for.
Isaac Morris
Stay wrong, you dumb faggot.
Justin King
It wouldn't be a united Westeros. The Dornishmen would throw in with Dany, she'd win the allegiance of the Greyjoys easy enough, and fuck knows what Highgarden would actually do in any given scenario.
That + 100,000 Dothraki and 13,000 Unsullied puts whatever the Baratheons/Lannisters/etc. can muster in a lot of peril
Matthew Reed
Bush doctrine. Fight in the east to avoid fighting in westeros. Prop up the slavers bay city states. Bribe the free cities to harass her. Fight a guerilla war much like the mereenese did but orders of magnitude more active. Develop weapons and tactics to counter her forces. Poison the dothraki horses somehow. Get to the dragons when they were chained up. Read and employ The Art of War.
Levi Bell
That was atrophy due to Targs in the middle of their dynasty deciding to keep their dragons confined to the dragon pit, but it does show that they're susceptible to at least that form of fleshly decay, so disease and poison is likely an acceptable option.
Isaac Hill
>would they be able to stand up to Dany and her unified military might, dragons included? Their only chance would be to pick off dany somehow and to hinge on the fact that unlike aegon she doesn't have a military mind and may make blunders if her counsel isn't careful
But realistically, they have almost no chance. Yes they would have the advantage of knowing the full potential of dragons unlike the folks from the days of the conquest, but unlike Aegon she would have two extremely capable military forces instead of just a standard army. Assuming she makes landfall and her transports aren't sunk by the iron fleet, westeros is in for a world of pain
>Dothraki Would be unmatched in the open field vs the standard basic knight/footmen combos of the westerosi houses. They would have uncontested mobility, and if the westerosi try to be smart and hole up in their castles against them, they are just going to get HARRENHALL'D by dany's dragons >dragons self explanatory >unsullied less useful than the other two, but would be extremely efficient garrison troops for holding areas she'd take. Their morale is unbreakable, and they have already experienced atrocities in their training. Unlike westerosi troops who could be starved out of a castle and forced to surrender willingly, the dothraki would hold until they died, either in battle or of starvation
Aiden Phillips
Scorpions. Technically I didn't say ballista.
Thomas Baker
Rhaegal
Jason Collins
I'm appreciative of the surprisingly specific circumtance that has justified you posting this gif in response
uh I mean, lol bashful dragons haha
Aiden Russell
>Dothraki >Would be unmatched in the open field vs the standard basic knight/footmen combos of the westerosi houses. nah just have The Mountain stand in an open field and Clegane all of their horses in half mid-charge as they rush him
Dylan Diaz
Nah man just listen to the based retard he'll show you how impossible it is to hit a massive dragon with a gigantic crossbow, even though there are multiple examples of that happening.
Connor Gray
kill their master ballista trebuchet/catapult underground trap ...
Isaac Thomas
>One time it happened to one dragon
Yeah and other than that one time no dragon fell in combat against anything other than another fucking dragon. It was clearly a freak occurrence and you're stupid if you think otherwise.
Jason Thompson
>kill their master Their master has a self defence dragon idiot.
>ballista >trebuchet/catapult >just hit a fast and agile flying creature with a slow projectile
What if a nine month pregnant Anne Frank had teleported into the Small Council meeting as Robert shouts "THE WHORE IS PREGNANT"? Would this pregnant Jewish girl from another world be able to end the feud between Houses Targaryen and Baratheon?
Does it even matter? The show has lost any modicum of realism since the absolutely dumbshit power level fluctuation.
Shes literally staged a war over 2 continents, one against the literal fucking undead where they overwhelmed and overran her troops. She is the first leader in history who without a strong navy never and in foreign terrain didnt get harrassed while moving literally her entire fucking army up and down a continent TWICE.
And somehow she comes out of all of that shit with "we still have half our troops"
There is no realism in this show, theres no point in discussing what-ifs if the showrunners literally just magic additional troops whenever necessary or just say fuck it and have Arya literally kill an entire army in the middle of the night by herself without anyone noticing (Freys)
Isaiah Hall
Dany would win in an outright war, but I believe she'd be assassinated, poisoned or tricked long before anything happened.
She isn't very clever as we've seen time and time again, and she'd have to outsmart Tywin, Varys and Littlefinger somehow. It just wouldn't happen.
Jackson Bailey
There's evidence to suggest they were being poisoned in secret.
Alexander Hernandez
The Dothraki don't seem to have any of the tactical nouse or very effective compound bows of the Mongols, if they tried their retard charge against properly formed infantry or to go toe to toe with armoured horse they'd get shitcanned. The dragons and Unsullied would be the biggest threat I'd love to see a Bobby B training montage too, going to the Eyrie and pushing wagons up mountains to get back in shape >DROGOOOOOOOOOO
