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The problem I have with GRRM is that I feel he applies a very modern ethos of warfare to a medieval society. For example western European standing armies raping, murdering, and pillaging the peasantry en masse.

Exactly.

People forget that Medievals wouldn't necessarily fight to the death or that armies would sometimes gamble to determine who won a battle. Not fighting was preferable to fighting for most people in most cases. GRRM doesn't realize that.

ya but the tax policies

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Enslaving - yes, but only certain groups did it, such as Vikings
Raping - maybe, but there isn't much record of it, which is strange because they made records of sex and even sex toys
Murder - maybe but usually not and only if someone stood up to a raider or Viking
>looting/stealing - yes
>conscription - no, not technically, if you couldn't serve or didn't want to, you could buy your way out of it with either money, goods or labour

Because the commoners don't have anyone that would risk their lives for them. Also, as one user stated, in the case of northerners it doesn't makes sense given they believe in other gods.

Makes sense that the Northerners wouldn't do it then. For the commoners though, who cares if they couldn't find anyone to risk their lives for them? Surely fighting for yourself, regardless of the odds, is better than certain death.

Not just the Seven worshippers, but Andal culture in general is based on chivalry, something that is not shared by other cultures

But we are told Tywin and the Lannisters pillaged and raped KL when Aerys felt - Tywin looked the other way abd allowed his troops to vent and loot shit - very much as it happened in the Middle Ages. And people remembered this with anger but nobody got punished and Tywin pretended he had nothing to do with these excesses - Just like in the Middle Ages.

We also see Lannisters rampaging through the Riverlands raping and looting, and Stark troops killing random peasant girls (S3 IIRC)

I don't see anything wrong with GRRM's writing, it was "realistic" in the way it portrayed a Medieval society.

It was DABID that showed inconsistent writing by turning Dany and his Dothraki rapist hordes into feminist icons that can do no wrong, chaining her dragons because they burned a single kid, making the Greyjoys reject their raving and raping ways, only to turn around and burn the entire city of KL and turning all cartoon villiain evil. Both extremes (le feminist compassionate ruler and the psycho genocidal queen with WMDs) being unrealistic.

Combats weren’t always to the death, either. A trial by combat ends when the champion yields. Lady Arryn’s champion lost and Bronn gave her the option of yielding and she refused to.

>in the case of northerners it doesn't makes sense given they believe in other gods.
And northerners usually take the black.

You'd have to fight yourself if you couldn't find someone to fight for you.

>Raping - maybe, but there isn't much record of it, which is strange because they made records of sex and even sex toys

Rape was so common that it wasn't something people would mention specifically.

>it was "realistic" in the way it portrayed a Medieval society.

Anyone doubting these excesses to be realistic should read about the 30-year-war, the battles and the aftermath with ex- soldiers and mercenaries roaming the countryside aimlessly killing, raping and stealing whatever they could find.

>and the psycho genocidal queen with WMDs) being unrealistic.

Ofc Dragons are unrealistic, but destroying an entire city isn't something thats unheard of in human history.
The Romans destroyed Carthage entirely. Another drastic event is the sack of Magdeburg (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Magdeburg)

> Magdeburg, then one of the largest cities in Germany, having well over 25,000 inhabitants in 1630, did not recover its importance until well in the 18th century.

Or battles during WW2 where entire cities were flattened. Stalingrad, Warsaw, Aachen..

30 year's war is the exception because of how bloody it was. 30 years of war, 8 million dead, overall male population reduced by half. Plus the overwhelming amount of atrocity was committed by the mercenary armies.

Indeed, and maybe 150+ years after the events of the 8 seasons of GoT people in westeros will say the same thing.

>8 seasons of war, xy million dead, overall male population reduced by half and the capitol burned to the ground. Plus the overwhelming amount of atrocity was committed by the armies of the various houses including the dothraki hordes and wildlings.

Never read the books, but, how are they in medieval era, Jon says the Wall has like 8 thousands years, how in that much time nobody has invented a steam machine or combustion motor??

The dothraki are still in essos and the wildlings
Jon believes the wall is that old, it doesn't mean it truly is, most of the history of westeros was wrote by the (((Andals))), and pretty much everything they say is just a half truth.

Another famous example is when British troops razed washington during the war of 1812 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

The Great Pyramid of Gyzah was already 2100 years old when the Greek historian Herodotus visited it. It was 3000 years old by the Middle Ages. Stonehenge was +10,000 years old by then.

tl;dr - Don't be a retarded nitpicker user

well humans didn't really invent any of those in the first couple of hundred thousand years at least.

And yet they built a monumentous wall that survived the test of time, just like irl.

Although there are some weird archiological findings that do point out that some one these cultures had at the very least attempted some extremely curious experiments on what is considered future technology to them, like eletricity for the Egyptians. You still cant prove they had a wide use of it, but they certainly had a primitive form of chemical batteries, which have unknown purpose as of yet, but could easily be used to power eletric lamps. Curiously enough, there are glyphs that somewhat resemble a weird lightbulb, but that is up for debate since it could be a lot of things.

The description of some ancient texts also point out some mysteriously advanced civilizations, mostly around the mediterranean. The texts of Plato about atlantis, for example. Supposedly their city had buildings at least 4 stores high, with canned water, both cold AND hot!

You can refuse a mans right by trial by combat unless youre a knight or some shit. Littlefinger was a manlet

user, stop taking /pol/ and /x/ so seriously. In general you are right, but some of that it's pretty retarded, as for electricity it was used a medicine.

>stop taking /pol/ and /x/ so seriously.
I never did either, these things actually are written in his works, and the chemical batteries actually do exist in museums.

>as for electricity it was used a medicine.
So we agree with each other on the chemical batteries?

And yes, the greeks were famous for their extremely capable engineering, specially when it involved hydrodynamics. They were able to move water through archeducts for long distances, make it move uphill using extremely clever devices, it is not really far fetched that they could have water heated or build 4 stores high buildings, or that they could build pipes out of metal.

Not really sure what seems retarded about it all, care to explain?

>suggesting or discussing the possibility that ancient civilizations may have had advancements we are unaware of
>omg le /pol/ and /x/
Stupid boogeyman poster

Its more the sudden jump thats unrealistic I think