Is the handmaiden's tale actually any good?

This happens with every piece of entertainment now

No. It's transparent liberal victim-porn masquerading as Alternate History.

Handjobs tail is a more appropriate name.

considering abortion debate is literally about controlling women, they aren't wrong. Also everyone on Yea Forums now unironically backs religion just out of pure contrarianism

Any hot bitches in it?

Women are so cringey.

Its about the treatment of women in Iran but retarded American woman think that its all about them not being able to go grab a quick abortion at Walmart.

I can't look at that Elisabeth Moss goblin face for more than 10 seconds

>considering abortion debate is literally about controlling women

[citation needed]

Sounds like you're projecting, Martha. Lay off the cheesecake.

Donald Trump is actually a transexual gay black woman

Daily Reminder that the original Handmaid's Tale novel only got written, and only got "popular", because fat Feminist hags were seething over Ronald Reagan getting a second term in Office.

It was literally a piece of retaliatory fiction.

What's it about?

This.

Why are Leftists so hateful and bigoted?

Its a porn show for women that validates their eternal victim complex

Surely it isn't. Propaganda is inherently shit.

>the female body is a sanctuary
>be also fat
That being said, Americans were a mistake

>the female body is a sanctuary
more like a cemetery

Christianity adopts all the negative traits of Islam and then takes over the entire United States.
Women are literally sex-slaves that desperately try to escape the evil patriarchy in order to make it to the Utopia of Canada.

I am not shitting you.

but it is? if you make abortion illegal women by default will be less likely to whore around and conservatives (look at their fucking name), really REALLY don't want women to be promiscuous. Of course I shouldn't have to spell this out but you are evidently a smooth brain

Exactly. Atwood even said it was about Iran and it’s absurd to compare the US today to the plot of the novel

Wrong

I watched a bit of the first season and there is a scene where a wife holds down one of the handmaidens while the husband fucks her. It was pretty fucking hot but the show was boring and elizabeth moss is not very attractive

>literally flipping off a building because it's now somewhat harder to inject acid into your baby's face

Is there anything more cringey and disgusting than a modern Feminist?

>what is human sacrifice

Are we forcing these women to become pregnant?

>using abortion as birth control
lmao

Did you ever consider that it was about the fact that people think you shouldn't be allowed to murder children just because you're a woman?
I know your tiny liberal brain has been propagandized thirty ways from Sunday with literal lies, but stop being an NPC for three minutes and think about this shit.

If it was exclusively about stopping women from whoring around (as if that would even be a bad thing), why aren't they also banning birth-control pills and condoms?
Probably because your Tumblr conspiracy-theory is full of shit.

I'm a bit torn to be honest, I think the premise is interesting enough, but having watched the first season I feel like it has to much awkward sex scenes (aka sex scenes that don't make my peepee hard) guess I'll cont. to season 2 and make up my mind

What about the female infant's body (or male)? Why isn't that a sanctuary? They don't have a choice in getting murdered.

Abortion should be illegal. You already have dozens of contraceptive choices. Getting accidentally pregnant is just you being a dumb hoe. Nobody should be forced to subsidized this or make you feel approval.

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>abortion
>murder
This meme lmao

All laws are meant to control people.

stop having promiscuous, unprotected sex. stop using abortion as contraception because you're a lazy, sociopathic skank. stop aborting children without consent of or even telling the father. stop terminating third trimester infants. stop being a cunt

if you misuse abortion, you shouldn't have access to it. simple

Are you admitting that women literally just use abortion as another form of birth-control, like pills and condoms?

What if you get raped?

>niggers
>people
This meme lmao

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>it got picked up by the Yass Queens of Twitter
it was literally concieved, written, filmed, and marketed to appeal to those people
it's literally about whether women have the right to murder their offspring in the womb

Huh.
Sounds weird.

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Imagine dressing up and going to flip off a building while taking pictures

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Literally less than 0.5% of abortions are reported as being motivated by anything related to "rape". And even that number is inflated by dishonest little skanks who don't want to tell their parents they have been sleeping around so they lie to become a victim and get a free abortion and pity-points out of it.

>if you make abortion illegal women by default will be less likely to whore around
the horror!

>the female body is a sanctuary
a sanctuary for mine penis :)

everyone knows it's murder. "Pro-Choice" activists know it's murder, whether they admit it to themselves or not. Hell, there are now radicals *openly admitting* that it is murder. And they don't care because it's more important that they let strangers cum inside their pussies than not murder an innocent, defenseless human being

It's kino. Don't listen to the incels.

Read a book you idiot fuck

> Have access to a thing.
> Abuse it and show no respect for it.
> Lose access to the thing.

Omg, fascists!

Listening to Feminists discuss abortion is like listening to Pol-Pot discuss the logistics of burying civilians alive in order to save on ammunition.

They make it insanely obvious that they are seething, morally bankrupt psychopaths with no regard for human life.

you'll want to kill yourself after watching it.

>Murder
LMAOO

cuckservatives are disingenuous retards who just wont admit this much, I mean the debate about pro-life is a valid one, but it'd be nice if people were fucking honest about things. Take one look at the seething incels on this website if you want to know what this issue is really about, yet people will fight you tooth and nail and say its about the kids anyway

>the female body is a sanctuary
are many people murdered in sanctuaries?

So many people concerned with other people fucking. Smells like people that can't get fucked. LOL

>Sanctuary
>immunity afforded by refuge in such a place.
>"Let's kill a baby"

This.

The "abortion debate" could save SO much time if Leftist psychos stopped arguing semantics and just admitted what they already know and believe: That abortion IS murder, but they don't care.
Instead they waste time debating what qualifies as a "human" as if it fucking mattered to them. Leftists would vote to legalize aborting three-year-olds with carpentry hammers if their politicians told them that it was the "Feminist" thing to do.

Feminists have to write fictional oppressive scenarios in order to give themselves something to rage about. They pretend really hard that they are real.

>Not murder
LMAOO

I can do that too.

It's the show all the femcels love

Well, yeah. Not allowing women to shoot people in the streets is also about controlling women, do you think we should make that legal too?

consider this, poltards.
nigger babies are the most aborted pregnancies.
do you want more niggers running around?

Stop replying to yourself to pretend people agree with you.

if you argue with most normal people long enough you realize they know, deep down, that it's murder. When I was a liberal I KNEW deep down that it was murder, I knew it was wrong, but the social pressure about HER CHOICE was such that I couldn't admit it even to myself.

It's all about convenience, and how this convenience is more important to them than actual human lives

Well, yeah. A significant portion of coal burners end up on welfare.
If my taxes are going to pay for it. I should have a say.
#MyTaxesMyChoice

>abortion is birth control
lmao

>Literally less than 0.5% of abortions are reported as being motivated by anything related to "rape"
It's not compulsory in states where abortion is legal for women to explain how they got pregnant, and considering how triggered rape victims get by the simple mention of the word and how often rapes go unreported, it's pretty clear that the number is a lot lower than the actual facts of the matter.

>And even that number is inflated by dishonest little skanks
Oh wait, my mistake, I didn't realize you were a misogynist. Arguing with you guys isn't worth it.

Go ahead, do your "NPC/onions/cuck" battlecry to scare me off and secure another win for oppressed white boys everywhere.

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The removal of niggers is not affected by abortion.
We want them all gone. Not just the ones in the womb.

It's literally not even close to murder.

I'm glad people are finally admitting it.

It's a transparent example of Leftist Double-Think.
They pretend to NOT know what they know in order to make themselves feel better, all in the name of assuaging peer-pressure.

The sad thing is that Double-Think and peer-pressure motivate like 80% to 90% of liberal politics.

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it's wrong to murder infants whether they are black or otherwise, jesus christ

The abortion debate is wholly about nasciturus rights. If you admit it has the right to live like anyone else the mother can go fuck herself.

So you admit to blindly parroting shit you read online out of spite. Neat.

If those niggers came to term they would just genocide each other anyway. Look at Detroit. The nigger population is hardwired to stay below 15% once they get near it they start killing each other.

> Killing a human isn't murder.

muhsoggyknee

Based reply, too bad Yea Forums hivemind wont like it just because

I think I used to be a lot like you, but think about it: are the children of a woman who would've aborted them anyway worth keeping around?

>Virtue signalling this hard
You sure you're not a lefty? Kek

and yet if you injure a pregnant and cause her to miscarry it's considered murder.

oh gosh. here we go. bet you're used to getting reddit points for this type of post right?

>MUH MURDER

Also, all of it is coming true if you pay attention.

It's not about killing a baby or religion in my opinion, is about your decisions mattering.
If you trivialize abortion, STDs will multiply tenfold in the next decade, many families will be broken, many women will have mental problems, and basically you're telling people they can do whatever the fuck they want because money will fix it.
There's no right side, both opinions have legit and valid arguments.
Whores should pay for abortions, raped women and legit accidents (every single contraceptive except sterilization can fail).
Also the moment you let a man stick your penis in you and fill you with cum, he should have the right to decide about the future of the kid too.

beat me to it but please explain this

Got to love women. If they want it it's a living human if they don't it's a lump of cells.

shut up retard

>It's not compulsory in states where abortion is legal for women to explain how they got pregnant
No shit, retard. It's based on voluntary polls.

>and considering how triggered rape victims get by the simple mention of the word and how often rapes go unreported, it's pretty clear that the number is a lot lower than the actual facts of the matter.
Holy shit, you're delusional. You honestly think modern women are going to lie about being raped and just say they were sleeping around instead? Because they're just THAT oppressed?
This isn't fucking Afghanistan. Get your fucking head out of your ass. There is literally EVERY social motivation for them to lie about being raped when they weren't and literally zero social motivation to lie about being raped when they were.

>I didn't realize you were a misogynist
Oh, hey, no wonder you stay stupid shit: you're a retarded SJW that yells "misogyny" when confronted by the truth. That explains why you think America is an Islamic Caliphate.

Is it a new, seperate human being? Yes, obviously
Is it alive? Yes, obviously
Does abortion terminate its life? Yes, obviously

Then it is murder. There is no way around this.

>An embryo is a human

From what I hear, it sounds like the left-wing equivalent of cringy right-wing fiction...
> Soon, HETEROSEXUALITY will be forbidden!
> And it will be mandatory to BURN the flag!

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>The female body is a sanctuary
not for babies, apparently

>how DARE you do things that I wouldn't personally do?
wew

You'e not even a woman.

The straight white males who wrote the universal declaration of human rights forgot to include the right of a mother to kill her child, big surprise.

>If I say it enough times it will become true

>Removing some cells from your body is murder
OHNONONONONO. Morphing reality to suit you isn't a healthy way to deal with inceldom and general loneliness, user wtf.

youtube.com/watch?v=DG4EVyfUPc4

Literally nail on the head

see

Sounds more like an arena.

it's not your fault that you're like this

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Anything after a morning after pill is murder tbf

>opposing murder now isn't a legitimate talking-point

Why are leftists so morally bankrupt and generally disgusting as people?

Is it a dolphin embryo? A snake? What species according to you

You’ll never be a real girl, and if you are actually not a tranny I feel so sorry for your parents.

While I agree you also have to remember rape victims are then forced to have the rapists child. It's not about the whores user, there are girls as young as 11 who are innocent who get raped and then are forced to deliver a child they had no choice in having. I see things from the perspective of "I wouldn't have wanted my mom to end me", but in that case I say it's okay. The problem is you have shit to help people all the literal degenerates want a piece of the pie.

Boy I wish we had a plague

Bitter incel, the post.

>murder a small mass of cells

Oh no no no no.

see

>Is it a new, seperate human being?
It's not even conscious until the third trimester, so no, it's not exactly a human being. What the fuck does the it matter if it's "new" or "separate"? Would you sacrifice a living twin just because his stillborn tumor of a brother is sucking his entrails from inside?

>i-it's not m-murder mr. shekelberg told m-me so
explain why murdering a pregnant women gets you charged for a double homicide

>the female body is a sanctuary!

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How little self awareness do you even have? Don't you read your own posts before sending? Out of sight, out of mind, eh?

>being deliberate dense and thinking its an argument
yikes

see

It's a statement of fact. Also, being fat is indicative of a myriad of other physical and emotional problems. It's good info to know.

because it's not an extension of either parent's body, it is a distinct living human and whether or not it's brain capacity meets your standard does not determine whether it is alive or a human.
You can't just kill mentally disabled people. That's murder.

Do you have any actual points or just meaningless noise-making designed to detract once from the thread's bump-limit.

>Bitter incel, the post.

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> A cell is the smallest unit of life.
If cells are alive. So are babies.

>My body is a sanctuary
>Fat
>any old penor allowed in there
>sanctuary has human child sacrifices
Yeah no, you're a cunt that needs to die the way you kill children in your busted hole.

have sex without killing the baby afterwards

>MISORGYNEEEEST!!!!

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>You honestly think modern women are going to lie about being raped and just say they were sleeping around instead?
No, I think they're just not going to respond to a voluntary poll that requires them to give an intimate detail about their life and victimization because for the average person doing something like that is fucking embarrassing.

>you wife can abort your baby if she so chooses so even against your wishes
Hm, sounds unfair, but okay, her body her choice

>your wife can give birth to a baby even if you don't want to be a father and forces you via the state to pay for it trough labor
When don't men get a choice? The way I can see it women can force you to labor for upwards of 18 years to support a baby you did not want. So where's the "my body my choice" thing for men? Do I ever get to chose if I wish to slave away at work or face imprisonment for a kid that I didn't want?

I can't take this women seriously no matter how much i try. They could be protesting real problems women face in the world but noooooo the number one problem is that they NEED to be able to kill babies

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>it is a distinct living human
I just told you it doesn't even possess a functioning, conscious brain until the third trimester and all you can spout memes. It's not even alive by its own choice.

Please explain in what way a human embryo isn't a human instead of speaking in implications, so we can laugh at you for being the one who brings soul into the debate.

Because, honestly, punishment for murder in society just isn't enough and everybody knows it. Any excuse to increase punishment isn't a bad thing, also
>It's in the law so it's 100% ok

Brainlets kek

These people should be shot on sight

I know lots of women who insist Trump is going to make the US just like that show! Rachel Maddow told them so.

>not even conscious
are coma patients alive?

>When don't men get a choice?
uuhhhm, sweaty, the man obviously made his choice when he chose to have sex. actions have consequences. and you should have sex

>considering murder debate is literally about controlling murder, they aren't wrong. Also everyone on Yea Forums now unironically backs religion just out of pure morality
Fixed that for you, Mon Cherie.

Also you're controlling men by making them pay through taxes for your birth control and killing your demon spawn, so yeah, you're a cunt too. Kill yourself.

The most pathetic aspect of this debate is that pro lifers seem to think that they'll get laid more if abortion is outlawed or made impossible by legal means. Y'all are still going to be basement neets and incels. I for one would love to see us go back to a 50s world but in that you people would be shoe shiners and sewage workers, barely human and just barely above minorities.

Not an argument.

that makes absolutely no fucking sense what you just said

The book was much better prior to 2016.

>actions have consequences
Exactly, pregnancy is one of the consequences. I'm asking you why only women have an opt-out? I already have plenty of sex mind you, never got anyone pregnant either.

Again, you can't/won't see that the shit you're complaining about applies to your post as well. And you wonder why the conversation never goes anywhere. fuck dude, you've only got (01) intelligence

Coma patients are fully grown adults and even they can decide whether or not they get resuscitated in such cases.

Notice how you completely abandoned your efforts to prove a brainless lump of cells is basically a human.

That is a very rare exception that pro-abortion advocates always try to use as if it should be the rule. My 18-year-old whore cousin lied about being raped because she got knocked up outside of wedlock. I'm pro-life pretty much by default because there are so many crazed idiots who are pro-abortion.

I was joking retard, I agree with you

>think that they'll get laid more

No one cares about this shit except beta orbiters who have done nothing to develop any charismatic traits, so the only option they have to try and get pussy is to find a pyschopathic feminist and agree with everything she says.

>Fucked that for you, Mon Cherie
Fixed THAT for you, faggot

>all obese

>I'm asking you why only women have an opt-out?
Can you get pregnant? No? That's why.

Read again. Smooth brains like you struggle so the practice might help you.

By definition you can't make conscious choices if you're not conscious.

some anons on Yea Forums just posit that (((progressing))) to a secular humanist society and the death of religion kind of threw the baby out with the bathwater and now western civilisation is faced with the gargantuan task of figuring out what it's overarching moral framework is beyond muh feels

see

It was overrated then and it’s overrated more so now.

No

you didn't make an argument, roastie. seethe

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>If we can't murder the children we bring into this world, we might have to THINK FIRST and have self control over our own actions.
No shit.
You just literally confessed you're too mentally incompetent to cote.

>Because, honestly, punishment for murder in society just isn't enough and everybody knows it.

Literally what the fuck are you talking about you stupid asshole

what if she's raped?

This.

That's a non-argument my fellow anti-abortionist. Don't stoop to their level.

Can we stop pretending that pro-life women just want even less responsibility for their actions (which is basically 0 in 2019.) Giving women the vote was the downfall of western society and even women are less happy than they were in 1950, prove me wrong.

>*ignores last wills, health-related proxies, and the fact that embryos are literally, biologically incapable of even developing a conscious until the third trimester*
Dumb pro-life user.

>Woman gets pregnant after sleeping around
Gotta face the consequences, sweetheart. If you didn't want a baby, you should have been more careful about whose dick you took.

>Man gets multiple women knocked up
Um, excuse me, but why don't I have a say in this? It's my seed. My actions shouldn't have consequences because I'm not prepared to face them. Please don't make me pay child support!

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If your logic actually holds water, how do rapes ever get reported?

My point is that there are better ways to control women than through something so provincial as abortion. Consumption comes to mind, women are already addicted to buying shit they don't need, from clothes and accessories to artificially priced jewelry and even education that pays less in the long run. Real control is the one they pay you for and in that regard, women are already hopelessly sold by their own free will.

How does that change the unborn's rights or lack of them in any way.

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You literally aren’t wrong.

Lol just don't have sex.

>there is nothing wrong with the termination of a small mass of cells
> you’re a fat SJW lmao

>It's about age!
>It's about consciousness!

Better keep your story straight, leftcuck.

Just admit your argument changes based on situation. You have no actual moral or logic rules. Your rules just change depending on convenience.

I've always liked that you can be religious on Yea Forums, but the contrarianism of people pretending to have a problem with abortion and gays is just pathetic. If you don't have the opinion in real life among actual people, don't pretend to have it here.

>you need a functioning, conscious brain to be human
>when you fall asleep you turn into an animal
>people in comas aren't human
>mentally disabled aren't human

>the rape embryo can consent to its own rape-induced conception
Christfags are on some creepy shit.

I'm fine with restricting abortion after theres a heartbeat and instances of rape. Other than that women can go fuck themselves with """"their right""""

What an utter retard. I'm embarrassed for you.

>considering abortion debate is literally about controlling women, they aren't wrong. Also everyone on Yea Forums now unironically backs religion just out of pure contrarianism
m'lady

>>It's about age!
>>It's about consciousness!
Dumb pro-lifer, pretending this are mutually exclusive and not the fucking point of the debate.

Holy shit, you're dumb.

Murder should carry a stronger punishment by default. Why are you so fucking dense? FAS? You should be pro abortion suffering with a condition like that.

If you know exactly where the neural correlate of consciousness is located you should share your findings with the scientific community instead of posting in an anime forum.

but not in instances of rape*

abort the rapist?

>third trimester abortions
>small mass of cells
pick one roastie

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>sleeping brains aren't functioning brains
Lmao, conservatards hard at work ITT.

>Gets badly BTFO.
>I'm embarrassed for you.
Wat

>Murder should carry a stronger punishment by default.

This doesn't make any fucking sense, murderers already are sentenced the longest out of anyone. And if you're in favor of charging someone with murder for killing someone's unborn fetus, then you are admitting that abortion is murder

you're 100% right

there are 45 million nigs in this country, without abortion that number would be 90 million, there would also be a 100% increase in rapes, murders and armed robberies. The only difference between this country and Brazil would be the spoken language

Niggers and women aren’t people.

It is.

Doesn't answer the question you fucking drooling mouthbreather. Why is a baby classed as alive when it suits a woman and a clump of cells when she lets Tyrone and Jamal creampie her in the club toilet?

I think youre the one with the problem when more than 1 person can't understand what kind what the fuck you're even trying to say

Show me, feminigger, the same exact blood lust of women to execute the rapist compared to the desire to kill the kid? Same for incest.
I remember when Bill Clinton was accused of sexual assault and RAPE. The very same feminists came out publicly and said it's okay that he does these things because he supported abortion. This was during the 90s.

Answer me this, why would the first inclination of you be to punish a kid that didn't ask to be put in this world? Yeah it's really rough you got knocked up, but why murder the kid and never, NEVER EVER demand the death penalty for the rapist. Your message implodes on itself.

When you can show me the same energy from the time of Roe vs Wade until today for the death penalty for rapists from the same feminists, then we can talk. But can we also agree you bringing up rape is a tantamount admission you know what you're doing is MURDER and you're looking for external excuses not to take care of your responsibilities you DEAD BEAT MOM?

Over 99% of all abortions are from slags who knowingly had sex and got knocked up. it's a tiny percentage of chicks who get knocked up from rape and incest. How about this, let's deal with the 99% of slags committing murder first, then we'll kill off those nasty rapists. Then you can party because blood will be on your hands, guilty blood: the rapist's.

DEAD BEAT MOM.

>umm no real knowledge exists on this website, how dare you not post a shitty /pol/ infograph I can spam for months later on??
Don't appeal to emotions if you can't handle simple biological facts. The necessary wiring to develop a consciousness begins to develop until the third trimester. The parasite in your fat wife's belly is basically brainless until then. Sorry.

I'm asking you why the state is forcing my body to work to provide for a baby I did not want? My body, my choice, right? I shouldn't be controlled by women.

But the only ones with this inconsistent philosophy are retards like yourself. Conservatives generally believe that abortion is bad and a man not taking care of his kids is also bad. Only feminists hold this contradictory view of men always being responsible but never having a say in anything thus woman can abort without the consent of the father or give birth without the consent of the father while forcing the father to pay for the kid. In essence this literally contradicts the feminist mantra of "my body, my choice" since the man is literally forced to put his body to work (or face imprisonment) in order to pay for something he did not want.

Clearly the only ones with a consistent train of thought here are Conservatives, they put the law on the books that forces men to pay for their kids and are forcing women to stop treating abortion as a contraceptive. You may not agree with it but at least it's consistent.

Can non-rape embryos consent to theirs? Can anyone at any point in their biological development consent?

>sleeping brains are conscious
Imagine being this retarded.

the modern legal system is so in favor of the woman it's not even funny anymore. a man can be indentured to some slut and in some states may not even be allowed to ask for a parernity test if he missed a narrow window of oppurtunity. SOME MEN ARE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR KIDS THAT ARENT EVEN THEIRS AND THIS IS KNOWN TO THE COURT

It’s probably a nigger, woman or tranny who posted it. Not really the heavy hitters of intellect so you can’t blame it for not having critical thinking skills.

most people are lurkers and this is how subtle redpills work

You have absolutely no point, are sperging out incomprehensibly and now you have resorted to
>i-i w-win

It's not enough. The pregnancy modifier is just a loophole to punish perps even harder. Nobody intelligent actually thinks a foetus is a real human life. Wtf

>why the state is forcing my body to work to provide for a baby I did not want?
Because you're demanding abortion be illegal. What the fuck is the state supposed to do? Tell YOUR child to fuck off when he demands a father figure in his life? Are you black, user?

the embryo will inevitably become a human being. ergo it's the same as killing a human being

>simple biological facts
>parasite
Give me the biological definition of a parasite you utter moron.

>quite literally implies sleeping brains aren't functioning because they're not conscious
Keep going, I'm cackling like crazy.

It is, yes.

Not an argument.

why not

>being this mad because Chandler was even dumber in the womb
I'm sorry about your stupid child. Don't take it out on me.

We really need a fucking film board

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>abortion is birth control
lmfao

If a women's body is a sanctuary then a fetus should be able to claim sanctuary in it and not be murdered there.

lmao your delusion is showing, do you have a single shred of evidence to back that up?

Same way as every other crime. Someone calls the police, they answer a self report survey, etc.

Rape takes a lot of different forms. For all the talk of roving rape gangs in Europe, just as many if not more rapes are committed through covert actions like Bill Cosby drugging women for decades. And we know why those rapes didn’t get reported.

The neural correlate of consciousness as it is called is one of the holy grails of science. Finding it will probably involve quantum mechanics, since we know it surpasses algorithmic computing, and whoever finds it will probably get a Nobel. (You) can't ascertain if a fetus has a consciousness or not more than you can ascertain if a fish does.

You said a conscious brain is a prerequisite to being human and are now badly attempting to deflect.

>HOW DARE THE STATE MAKE ME PAY FOR MY BASTARD CHILD
>abort him? Ugh I literally can't
You're not even a woman.

in your mind, should I be allowed to have the child aborted even if the mother wants it? would only be fair, right?

TO ALABAMA

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>Because you're demanding abortion be illegal.
But that's anachronistic and thus nonsensical and a straw man unless you can point to a post where I demanded abortion be made illegal.

>Tell YOUR child to fuck off when he demands a father figure in his life? Are you black, user?
We're not talking about father figures, we're talking about financial responsibility that ties a man to supporting a child he did not want for upwards of 18 years. When a woman doesn't want a child she simply aborts him. What can a man do to avoid the responsibility like women do?

Let me guess? Don't cum inside, use contraceptive? Great, the same argument used against pro-choice supporters.

strange how many vegans are pro-abortion, also mention sterilization and your hitler, but murdering babies is fine, really makes you think

>considering abortion debate is literally about controlling women
false, abortion is about protecting defenseless human beings, even the Romans had laws against abortion

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why wouldn't a fish have a consciousness? it's a fully formed body as opposed to an embryo

>u-u m-mad
Are you are a disingenuous moron trying to hide because you've been called out.
biologydictionary.net/parasitism/
>parasitism is a type of symbiotic relationship, or long-term relationship between two species

>The neural correlate of consciousness as it is called is one of the holy grails of science
Or we could just observe the developing areas in the brain that directly link to consciousness and figure out that, yes, an embryo does not even physically possess the brain matter to develop said consciousness.

You're not even arguing anything right now, btw.

>It is, yes.
mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/fetal-development/art-20045997
>Fetal development continues during the third trimester. Your baby will open his or her eyes, gain more weight, and prepare for delivery. The end of your pregnancy is near!

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Also very curious how they are often anti-fascists while supporting the genocide of people with Down's.

>abortion is birth control
lmfao

no we don't. this is what Yea Forums is; things don't always strictly conform to 1 topic; discussion is free to take whatever course it will. got to r*ddit if you want controlled speech and discourse

>b-but muh sleeping brain
Embryos lack a conscious brain altogether, user. There's no point in debating you because you refuse to accept this fact.

>or we could just guess lol xd xd

Why are liberals always so insufferable? Not even literal holocaust deniers are so obnoxious.

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>should I be allowed to have the child aborted even if the mother wants it?
I love how this post implies a woman would ever get intimate with you .

Fat people need to be eradicated

You aren't debating anything you are trying to deflect and obfuscate. If a conscious and functioning brain determines humanity why can't I murder mentally disabled people and comatose.

t. faggot who only goes on the three biggest boards

>biology is just guessing brah xD

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This is how leftist argue, lol.

because embryos don't even have brains

>oh fuck i'm pregnant! guess i shouldn't have let chad, mike and todd cum inside me, lol! oh well, time to get an abortion!
abortion is used as birth control because women are undisciplined, hedonist animals. you are an idiot

>h-have s-sex ;_;

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>my body my choice
>you must be okay with forced vaccinations though

how do you think they came up with incel? They literally project their virginity

nope. i only use Yea Forums

Literally what you just did. The neural correlate of consciousness is a mystery but your answer is
>lol i know its not there xd xd

>fat SJW hog projecting and making literally everything about sex

Soon you won't be able to murder your children any more and there's NOTHING you can do about it, no matter how many people you call "INCEL" for disagreeing with you.
Seethe harder.

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>If a conscious and functioning brain determines humanity
I said it determines consciousness. You're appealing to MUH DEAR HUMANITY because you're fuming and out of arguments, confounding this debate for a moral one I couldn't possibly be interested in.

>equality is not about equality
>also have sex
ok

>Yea Forums - Television and Film
>obvious pol bait gets 5+ replies

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>dude if i just talk in circles i win

Why do useless leftcucks insist on wasting the time of the intelligent?

You've backpeddled.

>"My body my choice!"
>"The female body is a sanctuary!"

More like a morgue; your pussy is haunted you whores.

user did you not hear about Kings Landing

>all the triggered incels
Based

Then who is the fucking reddit fag here? Go fuck yourself, electionfag

As I said you are not debating. You are losing ground now and go straight to ad homs, then a literal
>i-im w-winning ;_;
followed immediately by giving up. 10/10 based fucking retard.

>The neural correlate of consciousness is a mystery
Lmao you fucking boomer. Lmao.

>Y'all

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i'm not even the guy you were originally arguing with. also that's not an argument

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THE PEOPLE CALLING YOU INCELS ARE ACTUAL THE INCELS THEMSELVES AHAHAHAHAA OHHHH NOO NOOO FUCKING NOOOO

Keep going, brainlet.

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you. and every other tourist who wants this site to be more like everywhere else

have kids

"So what if I want to murder babies? STOP TRYING TO CONTROL ME!"

>Libtards are now campaigning for post birth abortions

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>newfag insults: the post
>"b-brah you're losing"
You're seething, boomer.

Damn, I’ve never seen reddit get blown the fuck out this hard in a while. And I’m even pro choice (because of niggers.)

What a world we live in where the Pro-Choice side is so obnoxious they're making Pro-Life likable. I don't believe anyone besides fundies would have cared about this a decade ago.

Look on the bright side, it's well known that people align their political views with their parents over time and leftists are going extinct by virtue of killing off their offspring so just give it time folks.

Honestly I think this same principle is motivating 99% of the abortionist arguments ITT.

Look at what the abortionist arguments here boil down to:
1. Debating (disingenuously) the semantics of what constitutes a "baby"
2. Calling people "incels"

I think the abortionists ITT are primarily the underaged who are terrified of deviating from the status-quo and defying groupthink.

Based brainlet. Women will argue publically until they are blue in the face abortion is for rape and incest and it's not birth control yet on here anonymously they start losing arguments and admit straight away they want it for birth control.

I support abortion rights just to trigger /pol/, not gonna lie.

And that's a good thing!

If you don't think Yea Forums has moderation to keep people on topic you're obviously an electionfag who comes here to talk about Marvel flicks

Look at you admitting defeat. How cute.

Guys I think we can find a middle ground.
Abortion should be legal but women shouldn't always have a choice, like if it has down syndrome it should be automatically flushed out

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upvoted

What the fuck even kind of argument is this?

Abortionists really ARE psychopathic Schizos.

>on topic
>moderation

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>1. Debating (disingenuously) the semantics of what constitutes a "baby"
That's literally the seething boomer trying to convince everyone ITT a objectively brainless lump of cells is just like a full grown baby.

But he's right

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And that’s because you’re mentally ill and /pol/ lives in your head rent free

/pol/ only supports pro life because it triggers women.
Fucking poetry.

Cringe as fuck. You ran away from a losing debate, tried to claim victory and now resort to
>n-newfag!
like your obsessed self didn't rock up here after 2016 to teach us all how bad we are.

Just because feminists like abortion doesn't make it bad.
Illegal abortion would just mean there would be more degenerates and minorities born.

Based and redpilled.

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>No proof
>relying on saying it enough times in order to make it true

Sounds more like you feel guilty and you're trying to convince yourself, not us.

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if you think Yea Forums is a place where you expect proper moderation you DEFINITELY came here during the election

I would tell you to try another board, but I don't want to subject anyone else to your faggotry. Fine, just stay here on your redditor containment board.

>consciousness is le mystery!!!
>btw you don't need a brain for one, ~GOD~ gives you all that shit xD

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Literally furious. Based Yea Forums.

>abortion good
>eugenics bad

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Let me guess, you got this from Breitbart.

OK, so you DON'T have an actual argument? Just ad-homs?

Literally fuming. To think you're were actually interested in arguing something you clearly knew nothing about.

Abortion should be legal if murder is legalized . Women and doctors shouldn't be the only ones with the privileges of removing people from the world.

>And I’m even pro choice (because of niggers.)
based
rtl.org/outreach/
>despite being only 7% of the population black women...

If you think that, try one of the better boards then. Try to make a post about abortion in Alabama and see how long it lasts.

Based and Eugenics-pilled.

Also abortions of all dwarfism.

Yawn. Imagine thinking you know where the neural correlate for consciousness is when you are so stupid your only response to being ass raped verbally is to start spamming memes.

>>No proof
Worse than I thought: pro-lifers literally don't know how babby is formed.

Exactly my sentiments. The left is so fucking obnoxious they don’t realize they are just pushing people further and further to the right. I would probably be considered a center leftists back in the bush era but now I’m alt-right. Didn’t even vote in 2016 because of the “99% chance of Clinton winning” being pushed everywhere. From now on? I’ll vote for the most meme candidate possible just to see how far these leftists will go. I hope kanye runs in 2024 just for the memes. I don’t even care about anything anymore, it’s such a fucking joke.

Cringe.
>y-you are s-so mad b-bro ;_; i w-won i won i-i won

Based and sex number pilled. This guy fucks.

The brain keeps developing from five weeks into pregnancy until the mid 20's. Far from being "brainless". I'd also like to point out that it's rather hilarious how your argument has morphed from "undeveloped brain that's not conscious" to "brainless". Just goes to show you don't really care either way.

I'd like to know what the (surely to be arbitrary) point is when killing "the clumps of cells" is deemed okay?

Its not murder its an eviction.
Not the evictors fault that the fetus can't survive on the outside.

>Imagine thinking you know where the neural correlate for consciousness is
Yeah, biology is made up shit nobody even studies anymore. You don't even need a BRAIN to develop a consciousness, dude. That's lefty talk.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO LIBERALS LITERALLY ABORTING THEMSELVES INTO EXTINCTION

Pretty much this. I'm pro abortion but these people on twitter are so annoying that I want to argue against them.

You're probably 20 but you have the mental age of a 14 year old

what is context

>DUUUH WERE NOT THE FULLY GROWN UNTIL MID 20S
I never thought you'd stoop to this shitty argument lmao

It's almost like the Slippery Slope was an is a real thing and not a fallacy like the Left claimed.

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there's like a 50/50 chance it will, just like the gay porn and other bullshit that gets posted here and everywhere else that seems to stay.

>I know what science cannot answer
>I keep this to myself because I do not want the fame, the Nobel prizes, the reasearch grants
>I solely wish to argue on the internet all day

>Exactly my sentiments. The left is so fucking obnoxious they don’t realize they are just pushing people further and further to the right. I would probably be considered a center leftists back in the bush era but now I’m alt-right
That's because the left isn't pushing anyone except itself. The fact they keep going farther to the left is what makes you "alt-right", you don't have to move an inch yourself.

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Jesus Christ, it's like you people think the only boards on Yea Forums are the ones that move at light speed and have almost no moderation. It's obvious when I said "better board" you assumed I meant Yea Forums or something

Thanks for proving his point, shit-hammer.

>"I-I-IT'S NOT A BABY IT'S A PARASITE!!! IT HAS TO BE!!! SARKEESIAN TOLD ME SO!!! I HAVE NO PROOF BUT I-I-IF IT ISN'T TRUE I HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT I SUPPORT INFANTICIDE!!!"

>he keeps implying you can develop consciousness without the necessary BRAIN for it
Impossible to argue with people like you. You refuse to even accept your pwecious humanity.

But that's essentially your argument that you're making. Allegedly the fetus is not "developed" enough to be considered a human being so I'm asking you at what exact point does it morph into being a human? Is it the magical birth canal that gives the "fetus" human rights or is it some other point in time?

Still not the child's fault.

I mean that represents the motivation of like 90% of the Democrat party these days.

I don't want to help support kids that irresponsible niggers pumped out then ditched, and for that, I'm pro choice.

You aren’t very good at math are you?

>Sarkeesian
Imagine being this mad about 7 year old events you weren't even here for. Imagine thinking screeching like a fuming retard changes the fact that consciousness develops until the third trimester.

I love how your fat ass thinks "LE BOOMER XD" is an argument.

>considered human
Considered CONSCIOUS, you crying boomer. I don't give a shit about your subjective taste for faggy new wave shit. There literally isn't enough brain for a fetus to develop a consciousness before the third trimester.

Why is it "misusing" it when it arbitrarily goes over the arbitrary limits you yourself think are the line?

not really, it applies where it applies. No I dont think there are too many people in the DIY section or /tg/ that are bothering to bring up politics, but politics is very relevant to certain boards like this one, Yea Forums etc.

>"LET US KILL BABIES OR WE'LL STOP SLEEPING AROUND AND HAVING TO KILL BABIES!!!"

Brilliant. I bet these Leftist retards really thought this was an epic political stand they were making.
Holy shit these people are fucking stupid.

Fucking pieces of trash.

>le fat xD
Oh, you're a girl. It would explain your obnoxious self-sabotaging at least.

>TFW people here cry about how abortion is murder of children and has to be stopped and then go and unironically say in another threads how refugees should all be shot at the border, separating little children from their parents and locking them up in cages after deporting their parents without reunification and ultimately losing the kids in the system (because lol we didn't bother to keep any records) is completely fine to them because they're of the wrong skin color children

All you really need to know that the "muh murder" argument being thrown around is just a facade to have the illusion of a moral highground.

This. Where's the equality? I thought women wanted equality?

>babies can't survive outside the womb for a couple of years after birth, you get charged with murder if you don't look after it

But like, those are just memes, user xD

Now heres a pic of a dead refugee baby with pepe sitting on the corpse praise kek

I'm fine with a post on Yea Forums like "why are there no good nigger goalkeepers", but threads like this are just garbage and don't belong here. There's literally no place to discuss films on Yea Forums despite being one of the biggest hobbies in the world.

you really need to go back to r eddit before you have an aneurysm trying to come up with another strawman argument

I have no idea what you mean.

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A fat dyke pretends that Christians are Muslims.

I mean the picture related is very much relevant to television and film. You can't not admit that the political left are the ones trying to hijack all forms of entertainment to sponsor a political message, right?

Non whites and non east asians aren’t human. My logic is consistent. I’m pro abortion because niggers and Mexicans abort the most. Your move leftist shitskin.

Again,
>making wild claims
>has no actual supporting evidence

Imagine coming up with an arbitrary limit on "humanity" so you can justify killing babies.

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Is a baby just delivered from the womb self conscious? Pretty sure it takes a couple of years before they even recognize themselves in the mirror and its how usually scientists determine consciousness but that's arbitrary as well since what is "consciousness" is not really understood and can't be easily quantified. Regardless, humans take ~18 months to begin recognizing themselves in the mirror so you're saying killing infants already delivered from the womb is just fine.

Lmao

cringe

ummmm alyssa sweetie, please have sex

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Women need to be controlled.

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>very much relevant to television and film
it's not. There are around 3 posts that talk about the show

Yea Forums really is the cess pool of the world.

makes it easier for the police to keep up with potential shooters and terrorists i guess.

and when I saw "talk about" i mean mention the existence of the show

like the recent shooters in colorado?

>millions of women are kidnapped and used as sex slaves around the world, some in their precious progressive hollywood
>lets dress up and be angry we can't kill babies since we are too dumb to use contraception

>leftists and leftits think they are in control
Look I'll tell you this, just so you can realize why you're an idiot, even if your "ideology" wasn't such a shitshow.
Beforehand? Leftists held basically every source of information: universities, book publishers, media, etc etc.
Now?
We got the internet.
The left isn't the gatekeeper of information, the elites exist no longer, at least not in the sense that you know things the masses cannot potentially know as well.
So you lost that game, the game of intelligence/culture/information.
Now let's look at the leftists credo: "Just do whatever man!".
Cool.
Now let's look at the right's credo: "Improve yourself, work hard, be disciplined".
Which one of the two is more predator in nature?

You are on the wrong side in history if only because the right is gong to win and victors write history.
You're still in time to bail, get out of your hugboxes, of your pipe dreams, reality doesn't care about what you think even if you were right (which you aren't), only victory matters and the left is going to lose.
>"B-BUT TRUMP"
Are you stupid?
Europe is rising in a new wave of fascism.
Yeah.
Fascism, actual fascism.
Not the "we don't like migrants" fascism but the "everyone that doesn't work for the nation is a traitor" type of fascism.
Antifa is busy ridiculing themselves and calling everything fascism which only serves the purpose of real fascism, you make it look common, inconsequential and if anything make their "sins" lighter, the same way jews in hollywood make jewish characters that are always the butt of the joke.
"Look at me! I am harmless! I am a fool!", that's how you're making us look, we're wolves and you gave us the sheep's clothing.
You used your weapons so much they are dull now.

Jump the ship while there's still time, you'll be hailed a hero and get the popularity the left cannot provide any longer.

Nig*er, this better be a pasta

why do people use the asterisk like that?

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Banning abortion threatenes women lives because the more strict they get ultimately you end up in situations like Ireland where people die because doctors won't abort a pregnancy that threatens the mother's life. And before any of you fuckheads start saying slippery slope doesn't happen, some states already don't allow abortion if it's by rape and incest and Texas law forces you to carry a fetus that is slowly dying inside of your womb until it can be pronounced clinically dead before they will remove the it, which can take several days, risking the mother's physical and mental health in the process as they have to carry a baby they know is dying inside of them for an undeterminable of time.

don't shit on FA, these guys are singularly responsible for dozens of whores ending their porn career and getting real jobs

well part of the problem is we (as a society) need to stop being pussies about the death sentence. there's too many people already, why do we bother keeping rapists alive? or petty thieves? just shoot the fuckers in the head and use their bodies as biomass. i have literally never committed a crime and i don't plan to, because i am a functional human being. i bet way less 11 year old girls would get raped if getting caught meant getting a bullet in the head.

this

Pro-abortion cucksois getting BTFO with FACTS and LOGIC ITT.

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>all abortions should be legal because 0.5% are legitimate

The damage is already done at that point. Unless they marry a soi beta their partner will dump them the second he googled their name

Wat.

The right nor left have "credos." At best they're all a hodge podge of beliefs.