What are your opinions ? Let's say Tyrion doesn't end up killing Tywin and he just escapes to Essos and becomes Danny's advisor.
How do you think Tyin would have dealt with Daenerys ? Would he try to have her assassinated 24/7 ? Would he try and contract the faceless men ? Would he sue for peace with her or any other houses, or form a Westeros alliance of some sort ?
he would keep his men behind in the battle of winterfellgrad and then attack her right after the zombies were dealt with
>ywn be a westerlands farmboy getting buggered by prime Tywin
well tywin told joffrey he was a retarded nut job kid for being worried about dany so he’d probably do nothinbg
Negotiate surrender and then drill hookers back at castily rock forever.
Maybe tywin knew that Joffrey wouldn't be around long enough to have to deal with her
yeah, I was surprised at how casual he was about the dragons; though to be fair, they were still pretty damn small at that point, I think if he heard about them rapidly growing he would have gotten his shit together
based and lanpilled
pretend to be on daenery's side during the war against the white walkers, even send a regiment there
then one of the assassins, incorporated into the soldier units for maximum stealth, would cut her throat while she slept
Bending the knee
He would have bent the knee like a bitch the same way he did with Robert.
He would probably be backstabbed by red milkies as soon as Dany shows her dragons
have sex
none of the main characters in the series contracted the faceless men. best assassins in the world, no one uses them.
was there even more than one faceless man, was it just that guy that arya met and that is the entire extent of the clan. who build the house of black and white, who uses the 100,000 faces in there. how was arya there for a year or two but only ever met the plainest looking girl in the series and the original guy in different disguises.
then arya quit, leaving the amazing spooky cult of assassins with one member.
makes as much sense as there being one fucking dwarf left in the world in lotr, and that dwarf being surprised about it when it was clear the other ones had been dead for decades if not longer.
tywin would have done something about it as soon as he had confirmed reports that the cunt had baby dragons.
a volley of arrows would have taken them out.
if not, he had a tactically superb mind, and would have dealt with even full sized ones by way of strategically placed ballistas instead of lining them up in a row with no cross-cover.
Tywin surviving means the Reach never flips, so you still have High Garden and the Reach army. High Sparrow never reaches as high in power, is given faith militant, but then Tywin positions Dany as the enemy of them, not simply everything at random. This means he still has the Wildfire. He was genuinely impressed with Tyrion's tactics on the Blackwater, so he'd probably keep more control over Euron. Euron would attack Dany's fleet with wildfire ships as she's crossing. Damn risky, but it negates the dragons as a threat, since if they set the ship on fire, it simply explodes, and if they are down-wind, you have a wall of fire being blown towards the Targ fleet.
but user, there were multiple dwarfs with Gimli in the fellowship of the ring at the council meeting in Rivendell
problem with faceless men is that they are stupidly expensive. They cost twice as much as a sellsword army to kill a merchant. To kill a queen, with an army around her? That would bankrupt an already bankrupt house.
yeah his surprise was that the huge army that had been sent to Moria, and had sent back reports of success had been killed to a dwarf.
He was a cuck who got arrowed by his midget son while taking a shit
army doesn't matter, which is why they are used as assassins.
if they cost so much, how can they have been used to kill a fishmonger, a local theatre performer and so on.
Probably this
Infiltrate Dany's camp and poison the dragons food or something like that
don't remember that part. still doesn't explain why the dwarves in the cave had been dead for a thousand years, unless dwarves are like downeys and have no concept of time.
morrowind/skyrim etc copied the idea too, empty ruins with the dwarves long gone, stupid steam computers and steam robots too.
this
Because the cost is exponential to the importance of the target. A fishmonger who pissed of a guild? A guy without guards, who has no security in place, and is exposed nearly the entire day? He's going to be affordable for a rich merchant who really wants that guy dead. Local theatre performer, scorned a high ranking guy, refused to sleep with him, but she's got the patronage of someone more high ranked, so he can't attack her socially. So, assassins against a public performer, with no real social rank.
>Would he try and contract the faceless men
How come they don't use them more? How was Arya's master even imprisoned if he was the leader of the whole thing?
Dude, they'd been dead for like a few years. Last Gimli had heard, was his cousin had gone to the other side of a huge mountain range, and had retaken the upper levels of Moria. No news for a few years, so what? They are literally hundreds of miles away with no way of long range communications. then he finds every single one was wiped out.
TYWIN
THE WHORE
A military led by Tywin Lannister, Roose Bolton, or Stannis Baratheon (MAYBE Kevan Lannister or the Blackfish) could have prevented Daenerys from scourging Westeros and have dealt successfully with the wights. The chaos that has befallen the realm could have been prevented.
Come to think of it, are there any military commanders of note left in Westeros?
This while also trying every way to get Targ dragon-whispering genes into his Lannister bloodline like he was already attempting before Robert's rebellion and any existing dragons in Westeros in his lifetime. He would look at KellyC's dragons and thought only two things: Control one of them or failing that have House Lannister outlive them.
I mean, Tormund is pretty good at leading small scale raids and the like, but he's not really a commander. Davos is a skilled admiral. If Edmure is still alive, he was decent at leading men, if a bit rash.
only jon "beta cuck" snow
Go for peace in a way that leaves him still in power or on the council.
Euron has no reason to work with Tywin. In fact he'd be wise to attack the Reach and Westerlands while they're preoccupied with Dany.
Tywin is in a strong position, but Dany will still have 3 dragons + an army from Essos + Dorne. It's still impossible for her to lose without basically purposefully fucking it up like she does in the show.
>problem with faceless men is that they are stupidly expensive
tell that to Euron
This
What exactly do they need money for
Sneed
fuck i miss tywin so much
>targlet mcstarkbrains
>commander of anything but a bunch of exiled criminals
never should've been resurrected desu desu
Then it was poorly portrayed in the film. Have a look at the scene and say how long it looks like they've been there for.
Also, why did the goblins stay there afterwards, waiting for years just in case someone came along.
the guy has artefacts from all over the world, including a full set of valyrian steel armor. he even possessed a dragon egg, that he threw overboard in a tantrum
i don't think money is a problem of his, if he needs some, he just sells some one-of-a-kind-magical-cheat-device from the smoking ruins of a brothel in valyria
In the show, probably Yara, Greyworm, Jon Snow, Davos, Edmure Tully, and Tyrion are the only commanders with successful battle experience I can think of.
It is more or less 100% assured that the target dies though. Worth the investment instead of a faggy golden company that stands and waits to be killed in the thousands.
Hes a cocky asshole he wouldnt do anything but get crushed to paste like his evil children.
heh, damn, that is actually the best solution
Pay Iron Bank taxes but mostly to filter out supplicants. They don't extract gold per se from a contract but a price. Euron could have been taxed Valyrian or Lord of Light artifacts plus his left nut to have Balon killed.
based Tywin
There are people saying that people only call Daeynerys mad because she is a woman as Tywin also sacked King's landing. They seem to forget that Tywin didn't do it for the lulz.
>I aM nOt SoMe BrOoDmArE
Yara runs about 50 men on raids of villages.
Greyaids is a mindless eunuch slave.
Jon Snow is only good at dealing with people and seeing where there is a need for something. He fucked up his tactics completely with reclaiming winterfell.
Davos is a smuggler, that's about it.
Tyrion is a book based larper that was in two battles in his life and lasted about five minutes in each. He has messed up almost every tactical decision and doesn't even follow his own instincts.
Those ones seem to be a "better than nothing" bunch, but there aren't the likes of Tywin, Randyl Tarly or the old guard of kings landing or the night's watch or Ned or the various other major lords of the land who have all been killed off.
shit, meant to answer i can see Tywin thinking he could talk with the Night King
Tywin is a dumbass that underestimates dragons and would get himself floored.
Tywin being alive means Cersei never abuses power, the Faith Militant never gets restored, no trials of any sort, Sept never gets btfo, Tommen never kills himself, no queen Cersei.
Cersei most likely marries Loras and the Tyrells keeps working with the Lannisters in Kings Landing.
Daenerys comes to a "stronger, unified" Westeros. She doesn't have Tyrells as allies, only the Sandsnakes (not that really matters in the end).
Euron probably never plays a big part, he probably tries to attack the Reach and the Westerlands because why not.
He most likely doesn't help in the battle for the north.
From then on, he would definitely have a stronger army and generals working for/with him, a lot could happen. Maybe surrender like the Lannisters did with Aegon, while she lets everyone keep their power? Maybe fake an alliance and kill her in another way, poison or her dragon? or in the unlikely scenario, actually defeat her during the siege with a more disciplined army?
He would have go to the north to help the fight against the night king.
He would try to find out if there was any diplomatic solution while studying the strength and weaknesses of the dragons and Daenerys.
He would try to poison the dragons and assassinate Daenerys.
Ultimately if everything fails he would fight them on open field far away from King's Landing. If he win, good, if he doens't, too bad.
After all he is not a psychopath, or a woman.
i can see Tywin successfully bargaining with the Night King
>3/4ths of the Westeros population is yours, for Casterly Rock. It is done.
Probably have the scorpions not shoot with 15 second fucking intervals between themselves.
Have them all ready to fucking go with scouts ready to signal multiple scorpions. Create a swivel that isn't utter fucking shit.
Not kill Misandei and use her as bait to lure the dragon into a sure shot death.
he also likely doesn't kill Misandei just for the fun of it, he probably holds her hostage/as bait.
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How many Good Men would it take to deal with three dragons?
Make sure that the scorpions are manned by at least twenty good men.
that would have been dope
Dude you're probably the only one who thought they had been dead for thousands of years.
Also goblins live in caves. That's what they do. They were not just there waiting to ambush anyone.
the negress really wasn't important at any point.
you're right about the ballistas though.
simple tactic is to put them on distributed roofs within the city, so the approach to each one is covered by another. it isn't complicated, but they must have had a woman deciding that putting them on the castle walls looks pretty.
in open field, put them on wheels or in wagons like they did, but distributed the same.
no reason to have one.
also midrange mounted crossbows, mini-ballistas for general fire. arrows didn't seem to do much, but 30-40 half-spear sized mounted crossbow bolts would have shredded the wings at the very least.
it's not like they were the first dragons in history.
A dance off
then just cross your fingers the dragons fuck off the continent forever and not rampage in unctrollable grief at the murder of their moms
The Unsulied wouldn't have successfully attacked Casterly Rock either.
check the scene.
magically sealed door with an ancient monster guarding it, whole place is covered with inch-thick dust and cobwebs, everything skeletonised, crumbling apart.
then in strolls gimli saying "HEY GUYS HOW'S THE MINING GOING, LET'S HAVE A PARTY - HUH?????" as though he'd seen them a couple of months ago.
Father...
He would have sacked high garden, and then the loot train massacre would have still happened. At that point he would have bent the knee, no fucking question. His sole motive is legacy of the lannister name. Daenerys would have made him the new Rains of castamere.
He would have made a deal with Iceman.
legit one shot to take out the rider and it's done
im not sure if there's a precedent for rider-less dragon, but i'd assume it'd go batshit and start either being really wild or easy (for a human) to predict and then just be killed
im saying the negress being killed was dumb as fuck and should have been used during the battle
Accurately styled. I read it in his voice and could see his expressions. Best character in the series apart from Ned.
He would've literally invaded and colonized a piece of Essos and rechristened it New Casterly Rock, and waited out the extinction war happening in Westeros between zombies and dragons. This move would cost less in gold and manpower than hiring Faceless Men to kill Dany or throwing in his resources into fighting the Night King.
Also Tywin didint go around pretending to be mother theresa reborn.
Yeah, firing the arrows upwards and having them shower down would have worked. She was scared by one volley from 30 or so archers in the grain wagon ambush.
Given how the dragons seem to have no morality and aren't very well trained, I would expect it would not care about much and after burning whoever shot at it, would fly off to the wilderness to eat some livestock/farmers and eventually be hunted down by the lannistet specialists.
>In fact he'd be wise
Not in the show.
Moria was recolonised by the dwarves after the Hobbit
Probably would build the crossbows out in the hills and forests under cover, and snipe the dragons by suprise.
I checked the books, faceless men have a maximum rate and it is equivalent to hiring about 100 mercenaries. They even have the motto "we do the work of a hundred men, for the same cost".
Faceless men would have been the best option.
Sansa
YOU’RE MY DAUGHTAH
Good plan.
nice try showfag
stick to your tax policy maymays
>didn't bother to read the prologue
All these people having Tywin fight Dany are fucking retards. He's not a risky idiot, he's calculated and cautious. Probably negotiate a surrender with Dany, try and get the King's Hand position, assassinate Jon so he doesn't stop Dany accepting the generous surrender, then marry Tommen or Joffrey to Dany depending on which was alive.
I don’t know but I want to see young Tywin drowning cats/lions painted red the day before he marches on Castamere
Both remaining dragons would single-handedly take out his entire army
Why would he surrender when he holds all the cards. He didn't even consider her a threat.
this. But I don't know about assassinating her. Who can control the dragons?
Dany would never accept his surrender. He was the one who betrayed the Mad King and had whole royal family butchered. He's the one man that she probably hates more than anyone else.
>first gambit fails
>doubles down
mark of a true newfag amateur
Because she has 2 dragons - one of which is enough to win the war and destroy King's Landing. He holds no cards because the dragons are a magic "i win" card.
>dragon got killed by some dude on a ship with a crossbow
dragons are pretty weak
Once she has 3 dragons, the best mercenary army in the world, and the most feared army in Essos he would have realised that a war would probably be a loss, or at least risky enough to not be worth it.
So why didn't that work with the last dragon then? Just one of them was able to destroy dozens, if not hundreds of ballistae. What makes you think it would've gone any differently for Tywin?
This is retarded because nearly everyone was of the mind that the NK would win.
He would've ended it before it started
3 dragons means 3 targets in the air.
Tywin would have either had her assasinated the moment she seemed a threat, while she was still overseas and left the dragons going rogue and eating people in that far away continent; or he would have started building hundreds upon hundreds of ballistas and put them absolutely everywhere in westeros, especially all along the coast.
First time she approached the land, she'd lose a dragon immediately.
They used signal fires in medieval times, to instantly spread news of an invasions across hundreds of miles, even faster than ravens. She'd have found it a lot more difficult to have a nice safe place to stay and put her feet up upon landing. Her army would starve and her dragons would be killed off one by one.
Every lord in the land would accept the dozen or so free ballistas because they all know what dragons do to people/crops/cities.
Dragons are immune to all poisons
He would have gunned them down during war talks like cerci fucking should have. ( and would have if not for QUALITY writing fucking up her chasracter. Tywin did ask the question on whether killing a few generals u fairly in war talks was worse than killing thousands of soldiers in battle. He even was upset jamie didnt take down injured ned
plot armour.
This would have worked if Dany had a fucking huge army there. It would have showed that Cersei is fucked and gave a sense of dread, and it would have made Cersei's decision even more "shocking".
How can DnD be so incompetent? Is it on purpose?
the reason it doesn't make sense is because its a book/movie difference.
in the movie they make it seem like a few years by having Gimli be very certain that they are still alive
in the book its been 25 years since moria was last heard from. gimli is much less certain about the prospects of anyone still being alive:
>At last, however, Balin listened to the whispers and … took with him Ori and Oin and many of our folk, and they went away south.
>That was nigh on thirty years ago. For a while we had news and it seemed good: messages reported the Moria had been entered and a great work begun there. Then there was silence, and no word has come from Moria since.
Gimli might have suspected some dwarves to be holding out in strongholds, but obviously the balrog crashed the colony with no survivors. at any rate, in the book is more fearful than boisterous when it comes to moria.
What about Harry Strickland? As the actual leader of the Golden Company, shouldn't he have some battlesense?
Thanks for the explanation. 30 years becomes possible given the look of the place.
>you will marry the night king, and Tyrion will marry Tormund
Also some two by two "scorpions" dual shootin steel nets. Or even catapults could do that.
There are more dwarves than the ones in Moria. There are still the dwarves of erabor, for one. They just didnt make it into the story
No. He and the rest of the golden company could have been cardboard cutouts and it would have looked the same.
Utter waste. I think it is from d&d fetishising the dragons and the senseless eunuch slave army, they did the same thing in the wagon ambush, annihilation without resistance, when it was already shown in the first series that a dothraki was absolutely no match for an armoured westeros trained fighter.
>Also some two by two "scorpions" dual shootin steel nets.
Do they have the technical capability to produce steel nets light and strong enough to be useful?
Since bending the knee would not have been an option for him he would have went into hiding, moving his assets in several secret locations . After some time he would try and ambush the dragons somehow, killing them in their sleep or at a wedding or some other dumb shit.
Daenerys brought the Dothraki up north so they must have trained there as well in camps
Ah yes after being swarmed by undead and stabbed all over and the other got fucked by an undead dragon. Would have totally won that battle
That'd be cool. Or even chains tied between two of the projectiles to cut through the wings or wrap around it. They used to do that with cannon ball shot to take down masts and wreck hulls.
Who gives a shit about the dragons when they're roaming the north.
I miss him bros
>Tywin fucking guys
Tywin Lannister: Oh, the years punish us as well, I promise you that. My stomach remains quite strong, however. The only thing that might turn it are details of your grandson's... nocturnal activities. Do you deny them?
Olenna Tyrell: Oh, not at all! A sword-swallower, through and through.
Tywin Lannister: Well, a boy with his affliction should be grateful for the opportunity to marry the most beautiful woman in the Seven Kingdoms, and remove the stain from his name.
Olenna Tyrell: Did you grow up with boy cousins, Lord Tywin? Sons of your father's bannermen, squires, stableboys?
Tywin Lannister: Of course...
Olenna Tyrell: And you... never...
Tywin Lannister: No.
Olenna Tyrell: Not once? Not in any way?
Tywin Lannister: Never.
Olenna Tyrell: I congratulate you on your restraint! But, it's a natural enough thing, two boys having a go at each other beneath the sheets.
Tywin Lannister: Perhaps Highgarden has a high tolerance for unnatural behavior.
Im sorry user but it's not happening to you
Pity, i suppose it would kill the budget to show any more than there were too.
Wire is one of the easier things to make, if not from steel then from iron or copper.
They just heat it up and draw it out while it is hot, then wrap the strands together to make a cable. Did it thousands of years ago for jewellery and some armour pieces.
Tywin was already poisoned by the Martells
I don't see the dotraki as easy to domensticate. They were nomadic savages. Even Tyrion was surpised when some spoke the local language. Doesn't make their weapons more effective though. Their inward curving blades would have the opposite effect on plate as they would on skin, and they are shorter than normal swords and spears, giving them a disadvantage. Dothraki were still unarmoured too. One wonders where the archers were for the defense of kings landing, beyond the dozen or so on the walls.
Glad that olenna and her whole house is dead. Disgusting abhorrent degenerates deserved it.
yeah the wall archers got probably burned first along with the ballistas
>Wire is one of the easier things to make, if not from steel then from iron or copper.
I don't have any confidence in their strongest steel being able to withstand a dragon given their armor plate can't stop a blade
Better make it from sheep and title the episode Revenge of the Sheep.
you are so fucking retarded
The idea of wire shot would be to slow down the dragon enough for a scorpion to get a shot in,not to stop it completely
Like this
Hire a faceless man to kill someone close to her, take their face, wear it to get close to her and then kill her. Gg no re, next please???
He would have ignored until it was too late then bent the knee and tried to marry her to Jaime, then when that didn't work pay someone to kill her.
I don't know why the 1 ballista could kill a dragon at 500m away but 50 of them at point blank range couldn't kill a single one.
If you forget to shut your brain off for a milisecond during this series you're going to lose all the enjoyment.
why does everyone only remember his convo with Joff but everyone forgets how during S4 he makes Dany a big deal while talking to Oberyn and the Small Council? Also there is no way he would surrender, in the books he talks about how killing Rhaegar's children meant that House Lannister had abandoned the Targaryens forever. He knew that Dany would execute him regardless of if he fights or surrenders
>poorfag who can't afford to pay for the faceless men
and yet I am your superior.
they could fire a weighted sail cloth and have it wrap around the dozy dragon.
or just launch a catapult full of poison at daenarys.
their plate can't stop a crumbly corpse from stabbing with a rusted knife.
Tywin would have blown the wall up 2 seasons earlier catching winterfel completly offguard
but he would have blown it up the opposite way, so the undead swarmed into essos and killed all the dothraki.
yohn royce
It's not that the FM are expensive you idiots, it's that their price is whatever the buyer holds dearest. So a poorfag could give them even a bushel of wheat if that is what is most dear to him and they would accept it as payment,as long as that is what is dearest to him.IF Tywin himself directly asked the FM,they would probably ask for Casterly Rock. That is why it is so difficult for anyone to hire them
>Tywin Lannister, Roose Bolton, or Stannis Baratheon (MAYBE Kevan Lannister or the Blackfish
Literally every single one of these lost every single battle they were in during the WOT5K
except for Tywin at Blackwater I meant
WOW AN ACTUALLY INTERESTING GOT THREAD, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE....
Perhaps it was the ballistae killing a dragon that was plot armor while the ballista failing to kill a dragon was not.
>Cersei has dozens of ballista made to defense Kings Landing and kills 1 dragon because Danny is dumb
>Tywin, one of the greatest commanders and leaders in the history of 7 kingdoms "both remaing dragons would single-handedly take out his entire army"
yeah, sure mate.
>OK everyone, first person to kill the dragon gets a castle and a shit ton of gold.
bingo bango
Sure, but Stannis won at Storm's End and Fair Isle in prior wars. During the 5 Kings, Tywin won at Blackwater and the Green Fork. Tywin also wins at Duskendale, albeit he wasn't there himself and Roose forfeits that battle intentionally.
Roose loses every battle he is in, but he never attempts the win them so it's a mute point.
Gregor Clegane is also a living, proven successful commander if you count his undead corpse as living.
Leave out a fuckton of poisoned animals and wait for the dragon to kill itself
he would have died in dragon fire too
A ridiculous notion as it means the peasantry basically have unlimited access to them while the nobility has none. Lords would be getting assassinated by their subjects left and right if you could buy a FM with your favorite tree or your newborn.
Grey worm was trained as a military commander from a young age. Not liking the character doesn't change that.
No, they'd probably ask for Jaime's life.
yeah well tell that to GRRM,Im just relaying what the books say
That's what you get with a jewish writer
I can’t believe that was an actual scene
Right. Tywin was probably correct that Dany was not a priority at that specific point in time. It doesn't mean he wouldn't have taken the time to prepare if Dany did begin to pose a threat.
most peasants don't even have the means to leave their lord's land,much less go to Braavos and negotiate with FM
Jon, Davos, and Tyrion probably are just the better than nothing crowd, but Greyworm and Yara are both proven commanders of perhaps a dozen battles each.
Tywin really wasn't an expert battle commander. He wins the Battles of Blackwater (by coming by surprise), the Green Fork (because Robb sends only a token force), and Duskendale (because Roose purposefully loses). Furthermore his mistake of splitting off from Jaime at Riverrun got about a sixth of his army taken down and his son captured. If you were as critical with him as you are with Jon, you'd dismiss him as a failure.
He probably doesn't actually underestimate them so much as talks down to Joffrey in that one scene because he wants to assert his own authority.
It's heavily implied Euron paid for the faceless man with the dragon egg, which puts into perspective how expensive they are.
>Arya gets a coupon for 3 free kills and wastes them on literal whos
Hell
if you don't control them they just fly away to valryia and fuck around there or eat a sheep in the middle east, they only actually cause harm when she makes them do so
Who would pay that to kill a fucking actress?
should've made them more balanced.
the arrangement should've been that you could kill anyone, but you'd also be killed.
Guy couldn't even kill a dwarf before getting killed by said dwarf while shitting lmao
A very petty cunt
Not really, they cost something very valuable to the person requesting the assassination, so for a lord to use them they'd probably gave to give away their wealth or position.
>How do you htink Tywin would have dealt with Daenerys ?
finger in the bum
>he also underestimates robb
That would turn anyone into a suicide bomber that can reach any target.
>For a price, the guild will agree to kill anyone in the known world,[7] considering this contract to be a sacrament of their god.[5][2][6] The price is always high or dear, but within the means of the person if they are willing to make the sacrifice.[2] The cost of their services also depends on the prominence and security of the target.
>The cost of their services also depends on the prominence and security of the target.
>poorly portrayed
>we should go through the mines of Moria, my cousin Balin would give us a royal welcome
Yeah Gimli was a fucking retard who just forgot that his cousin lived there thousands of years ago.
vietnam style attack on drogon with the ballistas
instant attack right after the battle of winterfell
Tywin was too busy holding off the Starks and planning for Stannis' uprising to be woried about some 14 year old whore with dragons the size of kittens that were half way across the world with absolutely no means of traveling to Westeros
>gotten his shit together
>implying Tywin didn't have more pressing matters at his doorstep
No one even knows about Dany at this point except for the small council. Literally a non-issue given the problems at the time
can't jon control the dragons?
When word of an impending attack on Westeros reaches King's Landing unrest will spread. Tywin will plan for an unfortunate accident to befall Margaery during the chaos leaving Tommen a widower in time to propose a marriage alliance with Danaerys. They wed and unite houses Lannister and Targaryen for the first time in Westeros history. Tywin continues to serve as hand of the king.
Tyrell's will suspect foul play though but Tywin will expect this and remind them that house Tyrell are the lords of Highgarden because of the oath they swore to Aegon the Conquerer. Fear of dragons and Tywin's wrath keeps them in line.
House Lannister continues to sit the Iron Throne to this day.
Technically, the Faceless men use the vast amounts of money they charge to give the Iron Bank the capital it needs to be able to afford to carry out it's threat of "Pay your debt or we finance the other side of the civil war". Since the Faceless Men were part of the group that founded the Iron Bank.
Issue is that the target in this case costs far more than anyone can afford. No-one has the money to pay for the assassination of Daenerys by the Faceless Men, which is why they start using cheaper assassins, like the sorrowful men, etc.
This is Tywin's fantasy after the pain of being roasted alive makes him go into numb shock
If they'd done it properly you'd have been cheering for the Tyrells. They were 1 generation away from literally dominating all of Westerosi politics. They had the best lord, the best intriguer, best tourney knight and best fighter/commander of their generation, all ready to go. Hell, in the books, Loras becomes a weird paladin type when Renly dies, he refuses to even consider remarrying, and keeps attacking the most heavily fortified positions to prove himself.
you clearly don't know many actors do you?
>marry off cersei to jon and jamie to dany
>it would work aince jon is afraid of incest
kino ships
They just want a huge personal sacrifice, it's not only money.