Artemis, the name of the mission to return to the surface of the Moon by 2024

>>literally wasting billions of dollars on building an army that isn't needed

what is deterrence ?

The first moon landings were a dick measuring contest with the Soviets so it makes sense for the next ones to have a feminist agenda since there is little sensible reason to send humans to the moon.

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>Including the first woman and next man
>And next man
I feel like "Putting a man on the moon" meant mankind, and was never meant to refer to men as a gender.

have sex

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>Mars in 2025
We'll never make it to Mars lol

women dont like that because they hate the idea of unity

Why could she even do up there to justify taking her? Is she gonna fuck the flag?

Well they were sterlizied and still seen as untermensch

But yeah, honestly blacks in Germany had it better than blacks in America

We've literally already been there several times you fucking retards.
There is nothing worthwhile in space. Get your fucking retarded star-trek and star wars fantasies out of your head. It's called 'space' for a reason--because it's goddamned empty as fuck and everything is so far between each-other that nothing mortal will ever be able to bridge the goddamned gap.
Goddamned, we have real problems on this earth, and you fucking morons want to spend billions of dollars to jerk your cocks raw over a goddamned pipe dream.
Fucking faggots.

>spending $1.6b+ to go to the moon
>possibly spending billions on a wall that illegals will just get over anyway
>we have starving men, women, children, and animals on the streets
>millions of people with assisted living that can't even afford basic necessities
>but yeah let's go waste money on things that don't matter! :D

>I'm now actually rooting against going back to the Moon
Jesus fucking Christ, is there anything these "people" will not ruin.

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I'd rather get a high-speed train than have some egghead on the moon

We should spend that money nuking Gina and saving all those poor dogs and cats. Would be better for the environment too.

Man is a gender neutral term. Mankind is the plural of Man while the plural of man is men.

1.6 bil, why that's less than half what we give to israel on a yearly basis. We should be spending that money on israel instead

this. there's a lot of economic-redistributive (i.e. GIBS) lefties who don't want to "waste money" on the "white boondoggle" of space exploration. Shit like this has always been NASA's PR excuse to get fundidng

There are already bases on the moon

>MUH SPACE FORCE

Bravo Donald

>return
>implying we were there in the first place

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>Why could she even do up there to justify taking her?

she's gonna say "one small step for a man , one giant leap for womynkind".

based and goypilled

WE don't really need the army anymore either, but it's such a big part of the economy now that we'd enter a world-wide recession if we draw down.

The guy being sent up is a pilot for the Kenyan space program. You know what they're going to do

Is it even possible to traverse the Van Halen belt?
They still haven't managed to pull that off.

I wonder how many like you there have been over the millennia, 'there's nothing over that ocean' etc

Based Trump supporter

Moon babies?

you know, if the problem hair brigade is what gets us back into space I've got not problem with that

the right nowadays seems more concerned with pandering to appalachian subhumans

Actual problems on earth like what? Not enough welfare? Why are you faggots so offended by space travel and take it like some personal insult?

guarantee they intend to make them both blacks

So what is it you conspiratards think happened? That we faked it, and despite the soviets have satelites and telescopes and a large spying network AND hating our gurs, the Soviets just decided not to embarass us to the world and our own people to be nice?

they should make the first human on mars a gay tranny black muslim

Well fuck, now I'm hoping China gets there first again with an all male crew and keeps Americans from landing on the surface.

Hell, I hope China just keeps all this SJW bullshit from leaving the planet.

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it cost money where my koolaid stamps at

Complete fucking retard.

there is no point in arguing against somebody who axiomatically disagrees with you.

cringe and whitey-on-the-moon pilled

Why go to the moon? Why not invest in more reasonable space research? There are hundreds of potential launch projects to all sorts of objects within the Solar System that gather dust on NASA shelves because of no funding. Send a probe to Enceladus, send one to Europa, send one to Titan. There is nothing more worth seeing on the Moon.

fuck off shill

that would be eric, simply eric

>what is deterrence?
Who are you trying to deter? Aliens?

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It's goog that they're doing this since it's been too long since the last moon mission and butthurt, jealous little nothings from garbage countries keep trying to push the notion we never actually went to the moon, harder and harder.

>WHITEY ON THE MOON

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>being this fucking picky about NASA getting literally 0.5% of the budget
>despite them constantly working on and inventing new technologies, while also stimulating the economy and allowing high risk businesses to actually flourish
If you want to make the "we have problems here" argument, then that's fine, but starting with NASA of all things is retarded. The US has major, major fucking funding problems in other areas, where the quality coming out the other side does not match the money being put into it. You should focus on those enormous holes before bitching that an actual beacon of innovation and achievement gets axed.

>The first moon landings were a dick measuring contest with the Soviets

That gave us shitloads of new technologies you use today you retarded ape.

Once space race ended progress of technology slowed down hard.

*blocks your path*

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Like tackling the inevitably problems of automation, like income inequality, like global warming (which is real, just not going to be as fast as scientists claim).
I'm offended because it's a waste of time you Sci-fi loving wankers think will let you play space explorer. But it won't. It never will. There is nothing up there to colonize. There is no other species for us to meet. There is no technology that will let us go to another viable solar system. You just want to do it because you loved Battlestar Galactica or Farscape as kids and never bothered to learn how ridiculous the idea is in reality.

Most likely this is a deal with the devil to virtue signal and get more funding, however we all know that devilish deals don't end well

we should send israel more money i think

>translation: you should be spending it on gibs
This planet WILL become inhospitable, probably sooner rather than later. Not even talking about climate change or Malthus. We have the resources and energy now, and we won't if we wait around for the third world to catch up.
It's a long shot but it is also the only shot, for America's future in particular.

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I just hope that he didn't think about that angle of it, and how ridiculous it is that someone with the means and desire to reveal our fraud wouldn't have done so.
Some people can be reasoned with.
I guess you were right, though.

>after a series of legal proceedings in Britain, Home Secretary Theresa May withdrew her extradition order to the United States.
possibly the only based thing May has done in her life

>if we wait around for the third world to catch up
So?

Yeah give that money to Israel and welfare instead

Other than saying 'we did it!' what's the point? There are enough problems on earth to waste money on Sci fi circle jerking.

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I hope there ins't too much wind on the moon this time

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NASA's annual budget is 20 billion $. That's the price of one modern carrier.

USA's social budget is 700 billion $. We also gave Africa 900 billion $.

Literally fuck off and die.

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Are you a woman? You're spouting pure stupidity and ignorance.

You might as well just burn all this money in a pile.

The fucking entirety of the space program is useless nowadays, complete waste of money.

I don't think it's a deal with the devil, I think most of NASA are legit tumblr-lite. But it doesn't matter to me personally because I will side with whoever is going back to space. In the long term muh race or muh faggots doesn't really matter so long as we get off the planet.

TO BOLDLY GO WHERE WE'VE ALREADY GONE BEFORE!

Imagine all the conspiracy retards in few years once both USA and China has people on the moon.

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jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/infographic.view.php?id=11358

Oh yeah dude, no one ever would have invented a portable computer if it weren't for the space race. Seriously, the space race is the most overrated event in history. It's so important we just stopped fucking going.

>it happened before so it will happen again
Irrational

>return
as if we went a first time lol. It was all just a con to get the russians out of space and it worked. But we can stop pretending that people actually walked on the moon.

Other than saying that mars has water like 10 times in the last 5 years has nasa achieved anything worth mentioning in the Last 20 or 30 years? They spend like 20 billion a year (the tallest building in the world cost 1.5 billion to build) and literally have achieved nothing. Just like modern art, sounds like a way to put money in the pockets of pot bellied and hook nosed semites

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Exactly.

Good on her for once.

>first woman on the moon
Jesus christ who fucking cares good for her just send her up there why does this need to be a thing just let accomplishments be accomplishments.

The money wasted is actually fairly low, in the grand scheme of things. We could make that much back and more with smarter decisions in other areas, like healthcare and education.

The US should also strive to be the world leader in scientific output. You could say they still are, but things are definitely slipping, and the success of the American space program is an accomplishment no other country can claim.

>what is deterrence ?

A complete meme. Nuclear weapons are all the deterrence you need. Ask North Korea.

USA has insane military budget for force projection not deterrence. Same reason why China is investing in army so hard, they need force projection in Africa.

>problems of automation
sterilization
>like income inequality
sterilization
>like global warming
sterilization

The solution is there but people are too chickenshit to do anything about it

Let's not pretend the Left isn't concerned with pandering to subhumans of other groups.

And wanting to get back into space isn't inherently noble.

Okay, you fucking faggots who think this is a good idea, tell me what the fuck you reasonably expect to get out of this retarded drive to see infathomably large, black psuedo-void incapable of sustaining life of our type?
It made some sense back when we started it. We didn't know as much as we do now, and our civilization had unprecedented wealth and luxury for its citizens. But the luxury is dwindling. Our share of the world's GDP is a fraction of what it was then. This is just a government pandering to a populace raised on sci-fi fantasy.

He said, posting from a country that can only exist because America shoulders 85% of the NATO burden while your country sits there and complains.

wasting money to do the same shit with a less optimal human sex.

>USA's social budget is 700 billion $. We also gave Africa 900 billion $.
Based anime posting retard.

Can't wait for people to go through the astronauts' twitter history and demand they be fired (out the airlock) for something they said in 2014.

>billions and several years to recreate 1960's tech
yeah, we totally went to the moon

The number of people opposing space programs is reminding me of why I love it so much.

Get me off this fucking planet

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I don't get it
By the time the third world catches up, they won't be the third world. Their culture will be much more developed

>There is nothing up there to colonize.
there's a shit ton of resources in space. We can do that without taking massively from the other precious things.

Space science has become the religion of the socially inept and retarded. I'm sure the US government throws money at NASA just to give the incels some hope of future progress and keep them in check and away from AR 15s

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There are wires in the fag so that you can actually see it, you moron. I wouldn't want my country represented by some flaccid flag

>Nuclear weapons are all the deterrence you need. Ask North Korea.

North Korea has a massive standing army compared to its size/population you ignorant shit.

nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/benefits-for-humanity_third.pdf

That's just the ISS. That doesn't include all of the other satellites in orbit. Am I going to have to explain to you that GPS is impossible without satellites?

you can't return to place you've never been before

i have planned out the trip, designed the groundwork technology to put men on neptune within the decade. oscillating nuclear engine capacity, ia superconductor technology as well as the ability to control the energy stored in it. the ultimate goal was to have a craft capable of travelling at speeds over 500 km/s.
i've made the largest progress in hyperdrive technology since 1954, and i'm the first to perfect theoretic use of solar propulsion.
i estimate that with my hyperdrive technology, humanoids will leave the solar system within the next 10,000 years.
i'm aiming for mars at the moment with an penultimate goal of putting astronauts in it's orbit by 2025, by using the world's best hyperdrive technology
one of the major technical challenges is finding energy sources powerful enough for my machines. if i had the budget of nasa you would be seeing me in the news.

The reason that people are hating this is because they realised people they don't like will be taken off the planet too retard.

Why does NASA even exist nowadays? Their whole existence was to fuck with the Soviets, well they are not around anymore, they should just cut their funding already.

Is like NATO still being around, completely pointless.

>in the last 5 years has nasa achieved anything worth mentioning in the Last 20 or 30 years?
Look up NASA inventions

>NEED MO MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMS

Fuck off, nigger. Become self-sufficient. White people are busy literally conquering the stars.

And yet they still want a nuke, because they know having a nuke will allow them to disband more than half of their standing army. Nobody is stupid enough to attack a nuclear armed nation.

litterally no reason to go to the moon now that we've been there before. will not help us at all its just a publicity stunt you guys are dumb enough to fall for

It is still moving, retard

>believing space is real
>in 2019

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Because human spaceflight, while not economically or scientifically sensible, is pretty fucking rad. It's a monument to the greatness of our civilization.

Leftist dogma has never sold. The only things that truly sell are sex and capeshit.

Once space industry gets going it will be worth trillions. Anyone saying otherwise is a complete idiot. Thank god for China because thanks to them everybody else realized they need to stop being retarded and go back to space for real otherwise Chinks will rule it in few decades.

Zero G manufacturing in the future this is why richest people on Earth are investing in space. Who dominates it first will be swimming in money for decades.

Faggots screaming about space being worthless are like religious idiots calling Columbus a retard because Earth is flat and he won't find shit there.

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lmao false. Show me a single video of it moving

She's being sent to monitor the rest of the astronauts for toxic masculinity.

Their funding has been cut, consistently, since the space race. They're at a fraction of the total US annual budget they used to be.

Incels oppose going into space as much as niggers do. Funny how that works

White Christians, apparently. Because everyone else just waltzes on in.

Where else would they spend all the billions?
Free health care? Lol

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I'm don't advocate building new carriers, either. We can already curbstomp the entire planet if we want to.
The aid to the Africa at least has the posibility of making someone's life better. The social budget as well.
lol, you're just trolling.
And if they hadn't, we wouldn't be facing an automation crisis that will push most people into unemployment, causing massive crime, terrorism and destabilizing most of the industrial world.
Yours is an argument of creature comfort, but the creation of these devices have made most people's lives worse while acting as nothing but the 'circuses' of bread and circuses.
Yeah...so you want to start a world-wide civil war and watch your kids get blown up in busses. It's not a matter of being chicken-shit, it's a matter of not being an evil brainlet who understands that this will cause most people to kill one-another. And despite your fantasies, you won't be one of the breeders.

>Jews getting richer is a good thing

>North Korea has a massive standing army

To control the starving population not to defend the country. They would get raped in a week in conventional war by SK alone.

Don't say this, it will trigger the religious nutjobs. Some people would just rather die in the mud, and they'll fight with all their might to drag you down with them.

NASA does more than space shit, you ignorant nigger.

True. Us pussy slayers love going into space. Gotta stick together, bro.

No, incels fucking love science, especially autistic space science they can project their hopeless dreams into

Then prepare a manned mission to some other destination, Moon is absolutely retarded. As I said before, Send probes on Enceladus, get to know the area, then send a manned mission there. Repeating the same feat again and again is fucking stupid.

Are you telling me I'm gonna be stuck here with you all for the rest of my days?

And you're going to be stuck here with me

>telescopes
Yeah they probably just saw the man on the moon with their telescopes and saw that we really did it.

Are you two autistic or what? Sterilizing the poor would only increase inflation for the rich and create civil war. Then the poor will create a communist system which will leave the rich out of the picture. They will die.

no space program

You know, I'm actually praying to God the whole thing fucking fails and blows up. Hoping everyone on board dies.

>first woman
>dont even have the program yet
Just fucking nuke us china. Im ready to become a bugman

Space is fake btw

having a moon base will drastically lower costs for the eventual mars mission

>that one flat earth retard who always tries to conflate science with religion because pop-science exists

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At least you admit the actual reason others have for wanting this.

What is the point of going back to the Moon?

starving is good learn to fasting faggot

Imagine being an US citizen, the country all fucked up and the government wasting (your) money on useless yass queen space garbage. Must be frustrating

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i'd love to know what country you're from

Like I said, sci-fi bullshit. Humans can't remain healthy long enough in space, so the transit costs will be prohibitive. You'll have to mine everything up there AND manufacture it up there, and without your consumer base also being up there...

it's to be the firsts to put a woman on it, duh

>income inequality
>global warming

YOU TELL EM', BERN-BRO!!!!!

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True. Nations with nuclear weapons become impervious to invasion. You can't mass troops for one without seeing your entire army get vaporized.

>Sterilizing the poor would only increase inflation for the rich and create civil war
How the fuck did you arrive at that conclusion. Decreasing the size of the labor force means wages will rise due to lower competition.

SHAME..

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Yeah because the astronauts moved it, you mong. There's no air in space so there's no resistance, meaning the flag would move the same way a pendulum would for a good while.

I mea you literally posted a nazi so clearly it's something you should think about.

typical religious person

North Korea is guaranteed by China, though.

They could disband half their army by next week and be fine.

That poor woman, looks absolutely famished.

OK, so sounds like both of you are admitting he was RIGHT, but you still want to be salty about it. Good to know.

>And wanting to get back into space isn't inherently noble
An insurance policy should an giant meteor, supernova lasers or nuclear war wiped us out is vital, you triple ni99er

only took women a hundred years to catch up with male space travel

Andorra

that wasn’t me

You realize things can move without wind, for example a flag that you just planted? Due to the lack of atmosphere it wil even keep swaying for a longer time than in a windstill atmospheric environment.

Reminder each Saturn V launch costed 1.16B in 2018 dollars

I'm not American, but they should've done way more long ago. They just stopped like retards despite having the resources for it.

Yeah, such bullshit that all those billionaires including richest guy on Earth are investing all they can into space.

Obviously some fag posting from his mom's basement knows better.

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*tips fedora*

I would much rather we go to Mars, sure. But if a moon mission will get us color video of square-jawed American males eating Jello somewhere beyond low earth orbit, I'm all for it.

I don't vote Dem. But there is no doubt that with current technology, you can't allow this to continue on the path we're on. Building things that blow up is just too easy. Look at Israel. Where will they be once even primitive guidance systems can be attached to those homemade rockets? Now imagine what people that desperate with western-level IQs can do. We'll have an American ISIS in a few decades as is.
And the only people who don't believe CC is real, don't understand what a carbon-sink is or what the atmosphere of this planet was in eons past.
I am not ideological. I believe in tackling all problems with any solution available.

>And if they hadn't, we wouldn't be facing an automation crisis that will push most people into unemployment, causing massive crime, terrorism and destabilizing most of the industrial world.
>Yours is an argument of creature comfort, but the creation of these devices have made most people's lives worse while acting as nothing but the 'circuses' of bread and circuses.
The solution to this is not to halt but to accelerate. Soon enough robots will do all the work and money won't even be a thing anymore.

Costs of having a Moon base in the first place is drastically higher that whatever lowering of the costs it will bring for Mars mission. It's also retarded thinking that sending people from the Moon will be cheaper than sending them from Earth, since you have to send people to the Moon FROM Earth to begin with. You're only adding an additional stop to an already expensive journey. Reusable rockets already pave the way for cheaper space travel. Invest in the development of that technology or EM motors or shit like that. Moon is useless, a Moon base in the foreseeable future is a childish fantasy with no productive scientific outcome and no amount of patriotic dick swinging is going to change that.

Fucking retards in this thread arguing against space exploration, the only possible way to keep our species alive for more than 200 more years.

Its almost as if space shit is useless

This is most likely one poster or an extremely small number of posters

Your reading comprehension is terrible.

I said it's not inherently noble, not that it's not "vital" -- which it could be in the case of a giant meteor. Sending a woman to the Moon because she's a woman isn't worth money and it's not noble to science.

This must be bait because if it wasn't you would literally be too brain dead to type words.

To start a base and moon mining. Once you can effectively mine on the moon and assemble things in orbit you pretty much won the world. This is new colonialism.

Well people used to say things like "you'll never circumnavigate the world" and "You'll never fly the sky and reach the moon" as well

Dumb nihilist

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Did you forget JFK existed?
There's a difference between incels and regular autist scientists

It's amazing that morons who want to explore space don't get how little momentum something in space loses from the minimal resistance there--despite that knowledge being extremely important to successful space travel. Most fuel is expanded during take-off from earth for that reason.
Like I said, they are sci-fi loving morons who never looked into the realities of space travel.

>return

There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?!

>But if a moon mission will get us color video of square-jawed American males eating Jello somewhere beyond low earth orbit, I'm all for it.

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Accelerating only works if we can legislate in a way that makes the transition to an automated society smoother.

But let's be honest, western governments are slow inefficient pieces of shit. They're going to get caught with their pants down when automation becomes widespread overnight and people are still trying to function in a society oriented around a 95% employment rate

>Faggots screaming about space being worthless are like religious idiots calling Columbus a retard because Earth is flat and he won't find shit there.

>Flat Earth
>Religion
>in 1492

Athishits outing themselves as ignorant turds again.
Learn some fucking history before opening your mouth.

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>the only possible way to keep our species alive for more than 200 years
Source? Is it black science man?

>religious idiots calling Columbus a retard because Earth is flat and he won't find shit there.

No one said that actually