BRAVO GRRM

Apparently he ripped the hole kings and queens thing from history as well. Cringe!

>hole
Spotted an actual retard.

>TWO
>RECTANGLES

In the books i think its mentioned to be able to go west and arriving in the east.
But if you take the GoT opening as a real world globe thing. Got is inside a globe planet. Like this hollow earth idea.

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what's east of YI TI?

>Westeros
>Essos
>Sothyros
>The North
This pisses me off

Are Essos shitskin?

Ass hai
land of ass and dragon eggs

>literally copies the Wars of the Roses
and we all know how that ends

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>west
>east
>south
>north
Its a little bit on the nose, but considering people always named things very on the nose. Its just over time the language changed and most isnt that obvious anymore.

Teh Norff

>Lannister
>Stark
>Tyrell

Gurm is such a hack

It ripped far more from TAK than from the War of the Roses.

>cities in Essos are not video game-tier in terms of size and population
>more technologically advanced than Westeros
>magic is much more powerful

Why? You are comparing apples and oranges. North isn't a continent

TAK?

Indeed. But he was always honest and said its the inspiration for it and how a real world plays out.

The only way that geography would make sense in the slightest is if it were a ring

Why?

The Accursed Kings.

A series of historical novels about the leadup to the Hundred Years War. In 2013 GRRM admitted that he pretty much based GoT on it.

Which makes it even funnier how many people just discovered what Dany is all about when you realise that both Dany and Cersei are based on the SAME CHARACTER in TAK.

Planetos is a square with 4 realities

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I mean he based ASoIaF on it of course.

It's amazing how unnoticed that went, even though it's right there on his blog. For some reason everyone keeps memeing the War of the Roses instead.

The lair of Elizabeth debicki

I don’t get it. What do the circled spots signify?

That's Anatolia, not "Turkey".

The map of Westeros is so unforgivably shit. I've seen D&D campaign maps more believable.

Thats dumb. Who comes up with this?
You know that if norways sea would be frozen, norway and america and siberia are connected?
Who made this map took it too serious with east and the land of ice!

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Reference points

Brainlet here, which character are both of them based on?

But it’s the same points. It makes no sense.

The square thing is dumb as fuck but the north being connected to essos is cool

Isabella of France

Cersei's book storyline is when she's married to the homosexual Edward II of England, gets the Burgundy sisters locked up for adultery and all that. Then she exiles herself to France, where she builds up a mercenary army to conquer England from her husband. That part is Dany of course.

It ends with her having her husband murdered by getting a red hot iron shoved up his ass.

That last part never happened

I think you want to flip the UK map too

It sure does in the books

BTW before that he's locked up in a cell that has a huge bottomless hole in the middle with nothing to keep him from rolling in.

Next you'll tell me the first men are Celts and that Andals are Angles and that Aegon the Conqueror is William the Conqueror

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the Seven Kingdoms

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The donut in the Jade Sea is totally not-Ulthuan

Finally got the pun: George RR Martin / J RR Tolkien. Very clever, I get it. Good one

>every body of water is named "The X Sea"

>western region is called Wessex
>eastern region is called Essex
>southern region is called Sussex
which hack wrote this tripe?

don't forget, middlesex

also
>norfolk in the north
>suffolk in the south
>northumbria in the north

They don't know what an ocean is

>wessex, sussex, essex, and Kent
Truly the work of a mastermind

Gee guys, it's not like George said he was inspired by real history or anything

>mediterranean sea in the middle of the world
>north sea in the north
jesus christ

>norway's sea
You mean the Arctic Ocean? Norwegian sea is a very small sea. If it froze, Norway wouldn't even be connected to Greenland.

>random bits of land just sticking out of giant landmasses going nowhere
>people don't even live there, it's just barren rock
wow, amazing design

I was pointing out that every body of water is classified as a sea, despite there being enough water to have an ocean, not the actual names retard.

war of the roses is babby's first feudal conflict

and i was adding onto it, not criticizing or mocking your post

what infuriates me even more is how much he just borrowed from history.
literally everything about his lore is straight from history books. Tolkien at least had to do research on nordic mythology, write his own creation myth and invented multiple languages.

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the saxons

England is also mirrored in the middle. That's clearly Not-Wales on the eastern coast of the Norf

Borrowing from history is one thing, but ripping off from historical novels comes a lot closer to hack-ness.

Because everything about it is legends. Asia and Africa were supposed to be full of half-dog men and people with their faces on their chests

westeros makes sense since it was named that either by the first men or the andals since they migrated there from the east. Essos is stupid tho. Imagine if europe was named "westland" by europeans or china referred to itself as the far east.

also first men is retarded. they should have their own name for their people.

the worst thing about grrms world building are the endless descriptive names. he lacks creativityto the point that he couldn't name places but instead just describes them.

>THE SHADOW LANDS
What a fucking hack

>writes 2 books in 20 years

What did he mean by this?

People in essos don't use the word "essos".

>winter fell
>white harbor
>iron islands
>king's landing
>dragon stone
>high garden
>the reach
>the vale
>the wall
>castle black
>bear island
>the westerlands
>the stormlands
>the riverlands
>the north

is Dorne the only location in all of westeros that has decent naming?

>fiction inspired by real life? this cannot stand!

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>copy a history book
>shuffle some names around
>describe how the characters take shits on riverbanks
>publish it
>some jews call you up, saying they want to make a show based on it

I read the accursed kings (in the original french, school forced it) and it's a huge stretch of the imagination to say Fat Fuck ripped anything from it. I can see why he would be inspired by the atmosphere of european political intrigue. The only scene that is actually similar between GoT and TAK is a minor one that most people probably forgot: when Joffrey shoots birds with a crossbow in the first book. There is the same scene in TAK: a weak spoiled child ascends to the throne and becomes king (Louis X) and he displays cruel tendencies which are exemplified by one scene where his idea of having fun is to shoot beautiful birds with a crossbow. The birds are released from a box at very close range. It's fucked up but people smile and clap because he's the king. He also has a thing for punishing female servants. The general idea is that a child king cannot possibly grow healthy or responsible which spells doom for the political scene of the kingdom. Both Joffrey and Louis X have their reign cut short.

>the king dies during a hunt
>his heir gets poisoned
>suspicions about illegitimacy
>at the end some character turns out to be the true heir

Are you kidding me? Yes obviously Joffrey is based on Louis the Quarreler, but is that the only similarity you saw?

What about Cersei/Dany and Isabella like I mentioned?
Stannis and Philip the Long?
Melisandre and Beatrice d'Hirson?
Olenna Tyrell and Mahaut of Burgundy?
The Tyrell sisters and the Burgundy sisters?
Renly and Edward II?
Lloris and Hugh Despenser?
Tyrion and Enguerrand de Marigny?
Littlefinger and Tolomei?
Jorah Mormont and Roger Mortimer?
Tywin Lannister and Charles of Valois?
Aegon "Targaryen" and Giannino Baglioni?

This is for characters, as for scenes and plot elements there are too many to count. There are even scenes in GoT that weren't even in ASoIaF but that were ripped from TAK, like the one with Tyrion the chairs in the small council, which shows that the show writers read TAK as well.

>died during a hunt
A bit of an exaggeration after you look at the details. The king was old, fell from his horse, got a bad head injury, got a fever and died in bed (recorded in history as having a cerebral stroke). That's a bit different than getting gored by tusks while drunk. Aside from that, poison and illegitimacy and hidden heirs are common in political intrigues from every country and time period.

I've seen worse, pic related

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then who is best boy, robert d'artois?

Disputes of legitimacy that focus on hair colour? A hard and self-righteous pretender to the throne having his brother and his nephew poisoned by a sultry witch who believes in a Cathar heresy about how the world is a battleground between the Lord of Darkness and the Lord of Light? Pure coincidence!

Nobody exactly, because Robert is really the protagonist in TAK and GRRM didn't want to make one central character. But his character is found in Robert Baratheon, while his stature (and some more concrete stuff like a rape scene) was recycled for the Mountain.

that's the best part, fantasy names are fucking gay. King Bolombi from the Dushari Empire and shit. Places in real life are usually descriptive as well anyways

>Galway is King's Landing
noice

>the dark lands
wow, problematic.

It's supposed to be inaccurate. Like our old maps.

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AMERICAN TOLKIEN

It get's better. The Badlands are home to the greenskin tribes. The warmongering savages who declare "waaagh"

Sounds like something a German would do.
Saxons .. yup.

I mean another ice age that reaches to norways coasts. But yeah, thought it would be obvious that i mean an ice shield from pole to norway. My bad.

The Ogre Kingdoms are a bunch of beady eyed, Fu Manchu facial haired monsters that run around, kill and eat everything. Sometimes on cavalry.

A great waste that is meant to parallel the Land of Always Winter, hence the big ass forts in a row.

>nippon
What the fuck man

GoT has some of the dumbest nomenclatures and names that feel amateurish and disconnected from any esoteric/pseudo-historical meaning. It’s also psycholinguistically inconsistent with other names it presents over various geographies. It feels like a child with no knowledge of the outside world trying to come up with fantasy names based off random objects he sees in his room.

Robert D'Artois is a master manipulator and conspirator, how the hell is he Robert Baratheon who hates those things?
>he's big, he must be like the other character who is big

No.
Region are north, east, south and west, ok.
But you have also states that are named after houses, tribes.

I mean his personality, on superficial level.

But like I said he doesn't really fit anyone in ASoIaF because he's too many things at once for GRRM. Probably same reason he split Isabella in two.

why does GRRM writes tournament melee as "mélée" when there isn't any fantasy french in his story and it makes absolutely no sense for one word, and one word alone, to have french accents?

He does this to make words seem more old timey, like he also spells jailer in some French way, like geolier or something.

Can you give me the gist of War of the Roses user? I don't know much about it

>West Saxons
>East Saxons
>South Saxons
>Middle Saxons
>Northern Folk
>Southern Folk
>North of the Humber

Bruh, it's TAK, not War of the Roses

not entire world is revealed, speculated to be 8% bigger than Earth

>kent is the kingdom of jutes
>anglos and saxons always get all credit

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Destiny is all

>speculated to be 8% bigger than Earth
speculated by who lol

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Fuck off we are full

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Nope, noone has gone to the west and returned

Is this not one of Euron's boasts?

>forgetting Sutherland in the North

Nah he talked about going all the way to valaria in the east

Why does anyone cite this as a problem? I dunno shit about why or how geography is formed so it seems like a smart way to handle a realistic world.... by using ours mixed together in sensible ways.

It's a stupid nitpick especially when the usable parts of the world make sense. And considering the fact that seasons last decades, it's not a big deal.

Pandaria

Seasons don't last decades. The only one that was longer than 10 years was the summer at the beginning of the story, and just barely.

Lancaster = Lannister

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>Nobody knows what's west of Westeros
>The seafaring nation of pirates is on the west of Westeros
>They never had a look

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you just want to reach out and slap GW

Tripfags deserve to get shot. Seriously fuck you man.

Tolkien did it too even worse than GRRM

It's a retarded nitpick. All writers use people from their life/historical figures/famous people as prototypes for their characters. All writers base descriptions of scenery on views they've already seen. Write what you know.
>Oi lad, wot if Hadrian's Wall was this made of magic ice, yeah, and it's made to keep up these magical zombies norf, right.
Sounds decent, Charlie.

>seasons don't last decades
>the last season lasted over a decade
wew

Barely over a decade is not "decades".
One season is not "seasons".

>So what's in the far east?
>I dunno. Asia. *racist Asian voice* Asshaaiiiiii
>perfect, print it

Lots of peoples' name for their people just means "people" in their language. Sometimes it's some other real simple stuff. Even in-universe Dothraki just means men-who-ride.

Give them a few more hundred years. Same happened with Portugal. They didn't find anything west of The Azores so the crown dedicated itself to explore the south of Africa.

That copycat!

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Yeah it's from Horsa and Hengist who brought it over from there.

Scotland flipped upside down works better than the whole Great Britain

in the books there's specifically a guy in the kingsmoot who wanted to go fuck around and explore the western sea

Everything is more interesting when it's a promise. Once you get there, it's just more of the same.

Look at Elder Scrolls, all the lands not explored, all the cool stuff, oh wait no it's actually boring shit, more boring than what we had before in fact, every time we go to one of those places.

Seasons are just fluctuatation in climate. Like our temperature fluctuated too.

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>the lands of always winter
is this for real?? who watches this shit

the story is "Westeros centric" sort of like how Europeans in medieval times probably thought that Africa and Asia were distant lands with strange animals

One house divided by a sea!

and we are all going to burn, thanks to you listening to oil company propaganda because it fits your worldview

Based time square poster

Good. A Malthusian catastrophe leading to a complete systems collapse is inevitable, might as well let climate change /accelerate/ it so i'm still young and fit when it happens.

Have wessex

I like the implication this map makes that the Irish are swarthy brown people.

Kingslanding itself is based off Byzantine culture, though its analogous location on an English map would be London.

Just hear me out what if the contents didn't have names till some sailor said this land is Westland, this land is Eastland and this land is southland. Then since it was easy, it got accepted by common tongue.

heh

>the thousand islands
>nowhere near a thousand islands
GRRM is so fucking fat holy shit

poor little brit boy

Just like IRL.

Funny, how you think that because of a scientific picture.
Besides i dont deny climate change, it happens and our c02 is responsible.

British Isles*
ftfy

Where is Greater Israel?

fuck saxons

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>Nippon
>Kingdom of Ind

Well, yeah, Westoros is supposed to be a post-apocalyptic Earth.

This.
I mean Ancient Greece location names are pretty mundane in Greek.

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I was in South West Ireland which is nowhere as mountainous as the vale but the resemblance is truly remarkable

Essos fucking sucks man, that's basically a boring rectangle and any interesting part protrudes out or the edges. That's super boring

It gets worse. Look at this shit.
>leinSTER
>munSTER
>ulSTER
>uh... connacht
Nice naming consistency, dipshit.

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>Look at me, I'm a bloody Jute!

And to the East of Araby you find an Ancient Egyptian like civilization with brown people and pyramids

westeros

So if Sparta had a celebration day that's specific to the city i'd be called The day of Rope ? Interesting.

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What do you expect, OP? The man practically wrote the same generic Medieval English schlock fantasy writers have been for ages now. Fantasy is the most creatively bankrupt genre around.

>imagine being so FUCKING DAFT that you think fantasy authors/writers come up with their own worlds completely, without referencing real world geological features

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Not-China would be kino

>fertiliser
>in a bog

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That is reasonable criticism in the worldbuilding. These guys are absolute boat autists and the biggest unexplored sea area is next to them.

>he doesn't know one Stark King actually sailed to Lonely Point and beyond but never returned
read the fucking books nigger

Applied to the entire world.

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What was Cersei's tax policy again?

Wasn't there a winter that lasted a whole generation?
>Aegean sea
>Water
kek

The Orient literally means the East. Nordic means Northern. Australia means Southia.

>Asia means land of the rising sun
>Nippon means place where the sun rises from
Wow, what a shitty writer. He used the same damn name twice.

all the way the east beyond the montains of morn
>carcosa
hmm

Not a bad idea to make it seem like a natural landmass

Yea it’s hard to say the things that seem off about the setting is the irregular seasons.

Blackpilled as fuck

>Bone Mountains
Either Yi Ti collided against the Dothraki sea or that makes no fucking sense. Why the fuck are we not seeing the full picture, goddammit.

The North is in Westeros, you plonker.

>Dat distance between Spain and Morocco

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Basing the warhammer world on earth is the best thing they could have done

Having a geography so the cultures fit and compliment their neighbors just like ours do in real life makes the word fit better together and makes the stories written to reflect a level believability

Nobody knows

Also nobody nows about a continent to the West (America of Westeros) and they also don't know the shape of the south continent (Afrika of Westeros)

>I'm Jute uncle barry

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yeah the lore about the five forts and Bloodstone Emperor are very interesting, and in universe I think bravos is the real cutting edge part of the world.

>Dark Elves live in Canada

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Pretty much this. I bet in YI TI 50-60 years from the end of asoiaf storyline they will believe the remote west is a strange land were beastmen rule over normal men as kings, and about a war where the werewolf king of the north attacked the half-stag half-lion ruler of the south while both had to defend themselves from the kraken lord from the deeps and the fire dragon godess

Sound cool compared to boring YI TI human stuff, right?

No one has gone and found anything and returned other than 1 ship that found 3 tiny islands and then turned around whilst their sister ship continued.
At some point in the books someone sees the ship that continued in Asshai in the east so its likely its just round

seethe faggot

This. It’s is clearly a hollow planet.

That’s kind of cool, especially then the seasons could be caused by whatever the central “sun” is and maybe it just has unpredictable fluctionations in light and heat

That is kinda a cool thing to cover the fact that sometimes truth will be warped if there is no big and accessible history memory.
And that in simpler times people take it too literal. Best example is the varus fight which might influenced the niebelungen song. Some scientist think that the roman legion marching symbolised the dragon and so on.

>The map the iron bank doesn't want you to see

We know that our earth magnet field isnt constant and even switched several times. Maybe its just the fluctuation of the iron core that chages from time to time?

>They never had a look
They have, but nobody has ever found anything beyond lone point, or if they did they never came back to tell.

>Land of the strong ones
>Land of the really strong ones

>it's supposed to be shit

It's incredible to see that there are brainlets in Yea Forums learning that naming conventions and, in essence language, is simple, utilitarian and descriptive through these posts. Is like people think that things are named like they are to sound cool and imaginative.
Here let me bring another revelation, know how all the words about killing end in the sufix "cide"? Like homicide or suicide? Its latin, it just mean "kill", is that simple. No group of retards came together to invent cool sounding words, suicide just means "to kill oneself".

>reading genre fiction
>reading asoiaf, the absolute bottom of the barrel of the fantasy genre
That's a major yikesaroni

The thing that bothers me is that Westeros is the size of a continent but has less diversity in language and culture than just England

>Wessex
>Essex
>Sussex

Havesex.

Hold me bros, i just want to be a Black Sorcerer's apprentice living in Asshai enjoying a comfy life of spellcrafting

Hello, I am an Englishman, here are some English places:
>Wessex
>Essex
>Sussex
>Norfolk
Thank you for listening to my TED Talk

You just know that a seething attention whoring freshman wrote this diatribe

>Give them a few more hundred years.
It won't, GRRM world has been absolutely stagnant for three thousand years.
Also, the stupid thing is that at least the ships in the show are carracks which were developed in order to cross the Atlantic Ocean...

how can a something flat be hollow?
fuck off

It's almost as if Gurm is a hack or something

Well, it is a unified land with a unified tongue, and all humans pretty much come from only three different ethnic groups (First men, Andals and Rhoynar) whose particularities have been eroded. Still, culturally there are differences between the kingdoms, specially in the North and in Dorne.

This would be excellent ammo with a source

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>it's a unified continent, not a country, a continent, with a unified tongue, just because
Bravo Georgey

Implying apprentices in Asshai don't get sacrificed unless they usurp their master and sacrifice him first.

land of the north and depraved

IM CALLING YOU OUT YOU FAT FUCKING HACK FRAUD

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>just because
Not just because, it is know that the culture of the Andals conquered that of the First Men, that includes their language and writing system. That is the reason why only people like the tribes of the Vale and the Wildlings beyond The Wall are the only humans who still speak the old tongue and write in runes.

Only because it is mostly legends and the world view is based on Westerosi maesters. Asshai and the ruins of Valyria are confirmed to be interesting however.

This is a 12 year old's understanding of cultural and societal shifts.
>there was only one culture in this continent sized landmass and then it was completely replaced by another big culture
GRRM is a fraud who copypasted the brit history of Anglos and Saxons into a fantasy framework without giving it an ounce of thought. Who reads this cheap bullshit?

user I already knew that you were a retard wanting to shitpost but if you want to insist on shit that has already been explained suit yourself.

Read more books. Your wiki tier "explanations" of Gurm's lazy uninspired writing are embarassing.

It isn't global

based and redpilled

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Not the guy you are replying to but pray, tell me. What highly popular series of novels have you written?

So which is better, cowland or goodcattle land?

Such is Life in the Black City
What's more interesting is that The Shadowbinders are the creators of the first dragon eggs. So Dragons may very likely be demons summoned from hell.

Is that confirmed? Thought it was just one of the Maester's theories? Along with they were the result of interbreeding Firewyrms and Wyverns.

Dude it’s a fantasy novel compared to most it’s very well fleshed out and complicated

Do you expect the guy to invent a history and world as detailed as our real one?

This one
>pray tell me
Reddit.

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>culture in England

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>write fantasy soap opera whose only forte is complicated sociopolitical landscape
>underwrite every single aspect of that landscape
As I said, read more books instead of defending hack writers on the internet

>war of the roses is babby's first feudal conflict

War of the Roses took place when true feudalism was almost gone.

>go on the internet and get this riled up about fantasy world building

I can smell your fat greasey fingers from here

Dany's Dragon came as Eggs from Asshai and they were turned to stone from possibly thousands of years of dormancy. This means that they predated Aegon's Conquest and the Doom of Valyria as well.
It's said that the Asshaie traveled to Valyria and taught them their ways and gifted them dragon eggs. It's likely that Dany's dragons are original eggs then and were created by the Spooky magic of all the shadowbinders, pyromancers, and Those who practice control over life and death in Asshai.
There's also a good chance these Asshai wizardsare immortal and use sacrifices to extend their lives, an art that Asshai Native Melisandre made good use of.

So you are trying to tell me you are Erikson? Sure. Also I am pretty sure G.R.R.M and Erikson are friends, or at the least acquaintances. SoI doubt he would come to Yea Forums to shit on another author's work. But sure. I will believe you are Erikson.

>Wasn't there a winter that lasted a whole generation?
That's the mythical period the last time the Others invaded. Whether that happened at all is completely up for debate, both in universe and out. Considering how quickly the Others were dealt with this time I'm inclined to doubt.

>haha you're talking about stuff on an imageboard made for talking stuff
Gurm's fans are mouth breathers

read a book

So what you're telling us is that you are a salty fanboy of Malazan?
I have read House of Chains and I like it, but I don't understand why you're angry with a book series that you haven't read.

Mopatis said they came from Asshai. That doesn't make it so. More likely they are the 3 dragons eggs that Elissa Farman stole and later sold to the Sealord of Braavos.
Also "it is said," does not mean that it is so. It is also said that "dragons were hatched from a second moon that came too close to the sun and cracked." This does not make it so. The Valyrians being taught the secrets of Dragon magic by Shadowbinders from Asshai is a theory of the maester's not fact.

I'm Steve Erikson (my friends call me Steve) and GRRM is a fat fuck

Steve Erikson isn't his real name though...

Sounds moronic, its the size of england now compare the north of westeros to the south.
One is a permanent arctic wasteland the other one temperate lush farmland.

>we all know how that ends
False - I’m American

I didn't tell Erikson was my last name, I said friends call me Steve, you mongoloid faggot

Have sex

>Norfolk
>Not even in the north
our country is wank m8

>american doesnt know the roman/medieval warm period
google the era associated with temperatrue fluctuations, its all there.

>I'm Steve Erikson (my friends call me Steve)
>I didn't tell Erikson was my last name, I said friends call me Steve
What do you mean by this?

Fucking sjws i swear

I'm Steve Erikson, the writer of Malazan. That's the name on the books, retard, never said that was my real name. This your first day out of dumb school?

So what you're telling us is that you haven't even read the Malazan book of the fallen series and just got a picture of a well regarded fantasy series that has a lot of worldbuilding.

some are incorrect though

Its Malazan book of the fallen, LARPer.

>Home of the Thunder God
metal as fuck
also, Poland is incorrect, in Polish it means "of the Polan tribe"

It means he just looked at Steve's wikipedia article.

Malazan is the proper name faggot, the rest was added by my retard publishers. Cope

Mordor is simultaneously analogous to Nazi Germany and Austria and also Ottoman Anatolia.

South Gondor is analogous to British Palestine.

Gondor is simultaneously analogous to the British Isles and also Lebanon and the rest of the Levant

Rhun is analogous to Russia.

Near Harad is likely analogous to the rest of Arabia and some other areas in the MIddle East.

Khand is analogous some other areas of the Middle East further East and Central Asia.

>calls other brainlets
>talks about latin suffixed and prefixes like it would blow our minds

>Nobody knows what's west of Westeros
Its actually implied Elissa Longstrider or whatever her name is managed to nearly circumnavigate the world sailing west, as apparently her ship was found in southern Asshai a few years later.
>The seafaring nation of pirates is on the west of Westeros
>They never had a look
They did though, multiple excursions. Most ships turn back due to a lack of supplies or disappear.

>Sudan
>Land of the Blacks

so steve, how about a pic of yourself with a timestamp?

what lies to the west?

It was Elissa Farman who sailed west.
Longstrider (Lomas) was a was one of the first Westerosi to go east and catalogue the wonders of the world.

>Literally a fucking boot

Who designed this garbage?

Attached: italy-map-physical.jpg (800x924, 109K)

>posting timestamped pics on the infamous hacker known as 4channel
I'd prefer to continue selling my books to mongoloids like you

whatever you say user