Two dragons are dead

Dario would’ve saved her

She had Meereen, she's obsessed with Westeros because it's "home" and her birthright.

Why do modern audiences need everything explained to them like they are babies?

>been violently murdering people since season 1
>been threatening with burning down cities since season 1
>built up more
what

build up isn't the same as explaining or spoon feeding info, you retard

>defend a woman who burned women and children alive
well i'm sure not all of them were innocent

>pointing out obvious snap reasons is *defending*

If she hadn't sperged out she would have proved everyone who doubted her and plotted against her wrong, though. People have would still been afraid of her. It's funny to me how they didn't show a single collateral civilian casualty before she went before her chimpout. It's like D&D were sabotaging their own script and had to rectify it then by her committing a massacre without needing to. Why not just have the attack be a success but resulting in a lot of dead women and children on the side?

Can someone explain why she would kill innocent people, including kids? I get the paranoia and hate for Cersei, but why not just fly straight toward Cersei and kill her, instead of murdering innocents?

The build up has been since season 1

This.

But then a bell rang in the writers office announcing "edgy time" and they came up with this garbage

Because she comes from a long line of inbred retards that are known for randomly snapping and going mad

>After *ding* *ding* Cersei jumps out of the window
>Dany looses her shit and unleash anger on civilians
is this better?

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And it wasn't very good. She was presented as heroic for most of it. Yes, she killed people in brutal ways but never women and children.

like a human pitbull

its funny that suddenly no one gave a shit about Cersei. I mean isn't she their arch enemy over the last 8 seasons?
Arya was just like "yeah fuck revenge anyways" and no one else was trying to capture Cersei.....

Nigger I'm not saying you're wrong in principle. Her actions by themselves set this up, you are correct on that account. But that's not how the show meant is to perceive them at that point. They were deemed justified by the show (heroic music etc., visual cues, the whole cinematic language) and she had unwavering support by supposedly smart people until the last minute when suddenly Tyrion and Varys were shocked by the idea of people dying in a war and the mother of dragons actually using dragons.

to show how nuts and dangerous she is, so people won't try to replace her with Jon Snow, she'll probably try to keep herself isolated and only rely on loyal soldiers like Grey Cuck and the mongolians

>Yes, she killed people in brutal ways but never women and children.
it was just done off camera, i'm sure when she murdered the slavers some of their families were women and kids too

What else can you pull out of your ass?

>"yeah fuck revenge anyways"
Cersei was dead anyway, she could give herself the satisfaction of killing her with her own hands, but the Hound talked her out of it

To subvert expectation and shock viewers, don't try to apply logic to the shows writing, logic is not important to d&d

>Slavers
They deserved it

>They were deemed justified by the show (heroic music etc., visual cues, the whole cinematic language)
and if they used the same cinematic tricks and didn't show close ups of civilians they could have made normies clap at the burning down of King's Landing. They just decided to play it up in a dramatic way because something has to happen on the last episode

yes, the season is rushed, but her snapping is not the main issue, specially if you pay attention at how isolated she is currently. The main issue are all the other character arcs being wrapped up in a shitty unsatisfying way

have sex

it wasn't rushed, it's been building since season 1

why can't you danyfags get that?

try me, she's been always nuts, the whole "save innocents" angle was just because slaves worshiped her so pushing that pushed her own ambitions and self-aggrandizing

But it was. Since s1 she’s shown she’s sociopathic

why were all stark men raping and killing innocents?

She was portrait as a maniac the whole time. You are Just to dumb to see it

>why she would kill innocent people
they were not innocent tho
they were kinda white
they had to be purged so that theres no tyrants in the next gen she said it herself
and the next gen are the shitskins she brought into pseudo europe
don't worry you non playables don't get it but your subconscious does so it's ok

where did the stark men come from?

the northerners were devastated three times (red wedding, battle of the bastards, and battle of winterhell against the undead). where did this new army come from?

Cringe post

USA.

All good questions. For another time.

See it's a plothole and they rushed it. That's why Yea Forums can only give meme answers.

If Tommen and Smirkfu were alive, would she be content with keeping them as her personal concubines?

Anyone have a link to the episode?

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>Are people truly this repulsive and evil?
Yes

No proof this happened, retard.

D&D reduced the respawn timers

you're right i'm sorry she killed innocents because people with light skin and hair are inbred and crazy power hungry oppressors even if they pretend to be progressive

>Can someone explain why she would kill innocent people,

I wouldn't give a single fuck about innocent people in her position, though.
Those innocent people had all those days, weeks, MONTHS to start killing lannister soldiers on their own, if they didn't like something.

They didn't, they preferred to be sheeple for their comfy lives. So they died like ones as well.

shes a targ. Shes been leading up to it. She was always unhinged. Remeber burning the lannister men

but why not just fly straight toward Cersei and kill her, instead of murdering innocents?

Also, in season 7 she said she didn't want to be the queen of ashes

there are incels in the north too

I agree.

Link, anyone? I need a link.

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>They deserved it
"I can commit all the murder and genocide I want so long as I have a tenuous moral justification for it"
Oh to be naive and have such pliable ethics.

>do everything just as planned
>defeat fleet
>destroy the gate
>destroy all scorpions
>everything goes extremely well, pretty much win the war with just your dragon
>everyone drops their weapons, church bells signal that you have obtained a flawless victory
>THIS WAS TOO EASY AND EVERYTHING WENT PERFECTLY NOW IS THE TIME TO SNAP AND KILL EVERYONE INCLUDING ATTACKING YOUR OWN ARMY
Yeah this made total sense. Everyone would have gone mad at that point.

In season 7 she said she didn't want to be the queen of ashes, so she had changed. When she said that she wanted to burn cities down, it's taken out of context. She was talking about her enemies

yes, i'm sure her "intelligent burning down of cities" never killed a civilian before

> Do evil despicable shit
> Get hit back
> MUH WOMEN! MUH CHILDREN! MUH WARCRIMES!

Yes, remembering about whamen and kids only when you are about to kick the bucket is what repulsive and evil people do.

Oh my gosh I need a link to see the episode! Please someone, link!

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Still cringe

Why were the Stark men randomly raping people? Lazy writing. Bad writing.

go home glownigger

It was rushed she had no reason to kill the civilians that's what you don't get. Everyone would not be surprised if she had gone to the Red Keep and burned it down. Even if there were civilians inside, but she burned the whole city, from the slums to the bay and to the markets. She murdered all that people without any justification. It's not like they were a rebel movement like the sons of the harpy or anything, just smelly plebeians living their everyday lives.

she is isolated, cornered and thinks she has to reign through fear, it's spelled out in her conversation with Jon Snow

There are no innocents to her. She resents that the Westerosi hate and fear her for being a foreigner invader bringing armies of slave-soldiers, Dothraki rapists and monsters to attack them.

LINK! NEED LINK! Where can I watch the episode?

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She burned them because it's a war, you pussy. People die in wars. Cersei wanted to fight, not just give up the throne. Plus, in season 7 she said "I don't want to be the queen of ashes"

>insane people need reasons to kill

Woah...

It's like you don't even pay attention to what she says lol

lol, i'm sure people living in the north are all just morally pure

>explanations
>believability

She never actually did it, retard boi. Ffs please get off this board.

>I don't want to be the queen of ashes
well good job I guess

>Remeber burning the lannister men
she's supposed to be 14 years old idealistic retard

what happens when you free the slaves

they starve because they have no jobs

the movies made her into some sort of messianic revolutionary who fights for social justice while she's supposed to be just a dumb impulsive child who knows nothing of real life

No it hasnt youre just being a contrarian faggot.

My guess is that most people would have been afraid alright after she burned the entire fleet, every single ballista and the golden company in just minutes. It was an overwhelming demonstration of power. The enemy surrendered, it was an absolutely flawless victory.

>dood she's just crazy XD
you are stupid

Then why even wait for the bells to ring? lol Why didn't she just do it immediately. I don't understand that whole thing

okay let me try again

why did she murder all them people she was a good grrrl

Why do people keep calling the civilians innocent?
In Dannys eyes theyre not innocent she states as much, saying that they should GAMERS RISE UP! and overthrow Cersei like the slaves, since they didnt theyre not innocent and have chosen Cersei over her.

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Please, someone has a link to watch it.

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Because you absolute brainlet at this point in the story its not about the innocents but what the city represents to her. She gave the city every chance to surrender and warning to her will and they arrogantly slaughtered her best friend and failed to supply them with soldiers which resulted in her other best friend dying at the hands of the undead. Every attempt by her advisors about dealing with the city peacefully has bit her in the ass and gotten her children killed.

It makes total sense for her to go 'fuck this city' and is the only episode of worth in this god awful rushed season.

Spread your legs, sweetie.

>mass murder isn't crazy
>she hasn't been talking about razing cities since season 2

you are just mad, and i love it

how do you not know how to internet in current year

Fair point. I just expected them to not do that since they highly respected Jon Snow

Apogalu fro brat engisch
Iwas show the Throne game
Dagon laddy kil allá Citi peable with dagon hot hot sprai
me : `no`
And you?????

because they are, dany is just crazy

Not addressing my counter-argument. Nice. Btfo retard boi

So how exactly made that episode sense seeing how Daenerys was the most reasonable she ever was in season 7? She saved Jon Snow, she agreed to pretty bad terms in order to fight the night king and save humanity and she was pretty docile and open about all war matters and showed unparalleled mercy.

me : `yes yes`
den me fap fap

>Why didn't she just do it immediately
she had to grow her balls first, it's not an easy thing to do

But why did she even wait for the bell to ring, if she was going to do it anyway? Explain that, you brainlet

sacking cities is also common in history, you don't get to """surrender""" once the siege has successfully breached your wall, you should surrender BEFORE

based. there's only one more expectation that needs to be subverted, that she'll obviously be killed in the last episode. the weak should fear the strong. burn all the normies, queen

someone PLEASE post some of the Daenerys oraganizes the defense of the norf memes

Yeah we live in bizarro world. When she was a retard, the show and normies were fawning over her. The first time in eight seasons she's making sense and everybody declares her insane and backstabs her. I hate how they put the needless massacre in there to retroactively prove Varys and the others right when they were just bullshitting.

If she would've just stopped at the sound of the bell, do you think people would've feared but still respect her? Or do you think they were all going to fear her anyway because that big ass dragon and bc she used that dragon to wipe out some Lannister men?

and what did she get from it? being betrayed by all his advisers/friends, lost his closest people, became isolated, and kept getting into a worse and worse fighting position by following the advice given to her by her council

>WHY SHE WOULD BE TRIGGERED BY BELLS

The bells indicated surrender. Surrender means Cersei remains in the Red Keep until terms can be discussed. Discussion means Cersei and her advisors will have Daenerys and her advisors in very close proximity. Close proximity means an opportunity for murder. An opportunity for murder is an opportunity for Cersei to defeat Daenerys.

Daenerys already mentioned the fact that Cersei counts on her adversary having mercy, and mercy is the weakness that Cersei preys upon. Daenerys determined that the bells were Cersei's way of calling for mercy. Daenerys decided to not show mercy. In doing so, Daenerys left Cersei with no winning option. Daenerys finally rid the world of the Lannisters and plucked Cersei from the Red Keep root and stem. Victory! Daenerys did nothing wrong. Nothing.

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>I really hope she kills Arya and Sansa.

So do I. I hate the Stark kids. I truly do. And I hope she dracarys Jon and Tyrion as well as Sansa and Arya.

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She should have killed Tyrion then since he was the root of all her misery but she still gave him yet again another chance even though she was already completely cold blooded at that point.

Leaks confirm Jon kills Dany and Bran takes the throne, have fun

BASED

>children
>well i'm sure not all of them were innocent
Damns those kids and babies, sinful little fuckers.

>that webm

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Oh yeah why didnt the 5 year old and her mother pick up spears and start a revolution? Its not like the city watched a bitch nuke the Vatican. Everyone in the city are hostages and instead of going straight for the Red Keep and Cersei, her actual enemy, Dany has a brain shortage and destroys the city she is avout to take over.

Its actually retarded. Everyone still fears her if she falls the Keep and still rides Drogon. She literally won but i assume its a bullet point GRRM gave that she massacres civilians and D&D couldnt realistically make the character snap. Its It's completely illogical even for an insane person. Everyone already fears her, she just killed any chance at ruling.

The bell was rang and the fight was over.

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she also probably realized that them surrendering wont mean shit because nobody supports her in westeros.
now that she has shown that she will use her dragons if you dont submit she actually has a chance of ruling in peace.
Jon is an idiot who doesnt get it because hes a leader but not a conqueror.

>She should have killed Tyrion

Agreed. Tyrion did nothing but weaken Daenerys. Tyrion should be the first person executed in the final episode. And shortly thereafter, the executions of Jon, Sansa, and Arya.

>So how exactly made that episode sense seeing how Daenerys was the most reasonable she ever was in season 7?
she always wanted the throne, more than to free people or fight evil dudes
when she realized that she probably isn't getting the throne she just destroyed the city that she always thought will be hers
why else would she obliterate the red keep which belonged to her ancestors
she just said fuck it if i'm not getting what i want fuck you then no one will sit on the iron throne

she wasn't ever reasonable she just wanted the throne

shut the fuck up you stupid nigger. look for it yourself

It should have been built up more
>Amuse at the death of her brother via "golden crown"
>Burn the blood witch alive instead of just beheading her
>imprison some black fat man in a total dark safe with no food,water,sunlight or air
>Burn people alive
>Crucify people alive
>Burn people alive 2 Electric Boogaloo
>Forcing people to accept her
>threatened people with fire and destruction everytime she met someone new
The list goes on and on and on.

and what's Bran going to do? does he have any motivation? telling people about all the times they were raped?

>there are people unironically making excuses for this show
>there are people unironically using their head cannon to explain shitty writing
>there are people unironically arguing that the show isn't that bad or that it's still any good at all
>these people vote
>these people drive
>these people are considered your 'equal'
i understand it's been 8 years, but give it up, we don't have time to sit here while you go through the stages of grief, just go straight from denial to acceptance and move on already

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That user has a point though. She was so kind to Jon in season 7 episode 6 and 7. It seemed like she cared.

you think japan would've surrendered if america was just like "d-don't fight us w-we have nukes"?
you drop two nukes and ask them where they want to meet to discuss their terms of capitulation.

>burns prisoners
>unparalleled mercy

you must be a saudi or something

based and blessed kotposter

>take several years to get there
>lost 2 dragons and big part of your armie defeating night king
>the city surrender after 5 minutes of battle
>all that hardship was for nothing
I might have burned the city out of frustration too

What the fuck do you think surrendering means? That is the fear based support, the presence of Drogon is where everyone should fear and worship her. They just cant fucking write logically, nothing is gained from continuing to roast women and children they already would support her out of fear cause she has a fucking DRAGON but the show for some reason still has people question her its just so stupid

But shes been using her nukes on Westeros the whole season. Thats like the US carpet bombing Tokyo, its completely absurd overkill

>Tyrion should be the first person executed in the final episode. And shortly thereafter, the executions of Jon, Sansa, and Arya.
i hope this happens without "twists", would be pretty based

That was bad writing. No meme answers. I just really want to know what she was thinking. Like, why did she go and kill kids instead of just stopping or maybe flying straight to Cersei?

I was at home drinking brain fluid

the series may be garbage, she going crazy is not the reason why, it's been building up to it since forever

>give prisoners the option of living or dying
>people choose to die
>why did she kill them????

Nigga this is the equivalent of America dropping two nukes and Japan surrendering only for America to drop two dozen more on small town villages with no industry and cultural sites for good measure

she gave Jon a chance to fuck her in the last episode, he didn't man up and caused this
>Thats like the US carpet bombing Tokyo, its completely absurd overkill
lol, but they literally did it user
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo
>16 square miles (41 km2) of central Tokyo were destroyed, leaving an estimated 100,000 civilians dead and over 1 million homeless.

>>give prisoners the option of living or dying
>not crazy???
thanks for proving my point

>Like, why did she go and kill kids instead of just stopping or maybe flying straight to Cersei?
listen brainlet
she knows that everyone knows by now that jon has better claim
if she was reasonable she'd say great news jon let's marry and rule together and preserve the bloodline the way targaryens always did
but she was like don't tell anyone i'm the only queen
she's like viserys but with a vagina that got her much farther than her brother got with a dikc

Doesn anyone have this in better quality

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She was reasonable in season 7, though.
>Saves Jon Snow
>Tyrion gives shitty council, still keeps him alive
>Tell Varys to tell her when she does wrong
>Jaime kills Olenna like an evil cuck but people ignore that
>Dany says "I don't want to be the queen of ashes"

She had changed, dude

you don't surrender AFTER the siege breaches your city, you surrender BEFORE

im not defending her, i just want her to sit on my face after shes done with the butchery is that too much to ask?

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Your point was that she didn't show mercy which she did. She is an empowered woman so of course she is crazy to some extent.

it was filmed during hilary vs trump hysteria before season 7 and after she was a bitch

She only killed people who tried to murder her or slaveowners who are evil anyway.

>Forcing people to accept her
Um aren't all people supposed to accept the king or queen? I mean, if someone treated King Robert poorly he would execute him, I'm sure of.

>Wahhhh people died in a sacking
Low T

They burned prisoners because it's war. She can't have traitors alive who fight for Cersei. You're telling me Ned or Robert wouldn't kill a traitor or someone fighting against them?

my point stands, she didn't show mercy. "serve as my slave soldier or die" isn't mercy to prisoners.

>They burned prisoners because it's war.
That's not a thing and you know it.

>She can't have traitors alive who fight for Cersei.
1) They're not traitors. They swore no oaths to Dany.
2) They're prisoners. They can't fight, they're captives.

Aegon Targaryen had the right of it. Show mercy and you convince more people to join you.

But Dany is crazy as that episode and last episode confirms. Who can know how a crazy person thinks? (Except sociopaths)

So bad writing. Thanks for proving my point, brainlet

Coward logic. By letting Cersei rule over them and funding her through taxes they were supporting her.

1. I'm not a brainlet for asking questions. Many people recognize D&D are shit writers, you fucking shill 2. Why did she even try to seduce Jon at the beginning of episode 5? If everyone already was gonna find out, and she wasn't going to share the throne, then why even use that scene?

>could just burn cersei
>nah its better to just burn the whole town lmao

>slaveowners who are evil anyway
slave owners feed and shelter slaves
you don't free the slaves by killing their owners
you reform the economy that relies on slaves into something else like feudal system in westeros where they aren't called slaves
or you give them jobs and wages so that they buy their own shit instead of their owners doing it

to see if she could still control him with her pussy, she couldn't so Jon is a liability now and she has to fix it somehow

She was guaranteed to win, she had 3 dragons and everyone saw that. Everyone on that battlefield knew she would win the war with absolute certainty. Offering prisoners in that situation to join your cause is a complete act of mercy. She didn't need any additional soldiers, everyone that stands in her way would have died anyway and they would have served under her rule anyway. There was literally no other option than to die or serve the new queen.

Those soldiers wouldn't even have to fight for her, she just asked them to accept her as their queen. It's like going around with nukes in medieval times and knowing that death awaits for anyone opposing you and after showcasing your absolute might the biggest act of mercy would be to ask the enemy to join your side as your victory is assured. Any act of hindrance just mean more deaths.

Fair point about the economy. But she's young and naïve and thought she was doing a good thing. I remember she was shocked the slaves were asking for her to allow it again. I don't rememeber how she resolved it (please tell me) but she was really reluctant about it. My point, she meant well. She believed it was an evil act to own slaves (Most people do) and she thought killing them was an easy fix. She didn't think about the economy stuff

>Why did she even try to seduce Jon at the beginning of episode 5? If everyone already was gonna find out, and she wasn't going to share the throne, then why even use that scene?
nah she wanted him as her cuck she said something like am I just your queen? she wanted to be his lover but without him being her king husband

You are correct but the point is that the show portrayed it as good. Tyrion didn't have a problem with it. Varys didn't have a problem with it. Jon didn't have a problem with it. But when she wants to use her most powerful and signature weapon in a war against Cersei they all go
>she's clearly gone crazy

That's my gripe with it. It's emotionally dishonest writing.

war prisoners are a thing, not all defeated armies get absorbed or murdered

Then why not kill Jon?

Would it have worked it she had a bad pusy?

she probably thought about it, probably thought a better option was to burn King's Landing and cuck the northerners into fear. Maybe she still had feelings

>ruling with fear
I'm not saying it's impossible. All I'm saying is that you need a staff of very good people and you need to be a very good ruler so you don't wake up with a dagger in your back 1 month into your rule.
Both of which Dany clearly lacks

War prisoners don't make sense at that point. If you show someone complete and utterly overwhelming domination and they are still not accepting you as the winner than they are beyond salvation. This is just willingly inviting rebels into your empire. In this case it's just an act of stupid pride and honor.

So is Jon to blame for her going mad? If she just attacked kings landing in season 7, wouldn't all of this had been avoided?

why didnt she just fly up to the keep after the surrender and roast cersei

if she didnt unknowingly block their escape with rubble cersei would have gotten away

he has the cucksullied and the mongolians, which are mindlessly loyal, probably a good idea to keep everybody else at a distance

of course Jon is to blame, he should either have supported her and fucked that pussy or betrayed her and take responsibility for the kingdom, the whole "i don't want to rule myself but i'm too much of a pussy to fuck my aunt" indecision caused this

The Unsullied got btfo by guys with masks and knifes. The Dothraki don't know the concept of warm clothing so they will die during winter.

They basically killed TWO episodes to explain that burning Tarlys was wrong, but people still don't get it.

Ser Barristan the Bold got btfo by guys with masks and knifes.

>if she didnt unknowingly block their escape with rubble cersei would have gotten away
Well to be fair Cersei would have died of exposure and thirst after trying to cross several hundred miles of sea on a dinghy boat with a one-armed rower

she still was able to keep Meereen until she decided that fuck this shithole country and their people and left

IT WAS HER TURN!

I too massacre entire cities out of frustration

the dothraki follow strength. if she loses the dragon the dothraki will pass her around like a bong before cutting her throat

lmao retard

>Here is the roadmap of stuff that makes her go crazy!
>Uh, we showed all the events so our writing is good
>MIssandei and Jorah dying, the dragons dying, each of these four deaths were supposed to be built up with the same care and have the same impact that Oberyn's death did
>that took a season
>do all four in like five episodes
>brainlet retard contrarians on Yea Forums now think that Dany is le epic genocider
>fail to understand what writing even is or why the show was great at the start

Sorry little guy! Doing A B C and then D isn't good enough for a story! For example, Missandei said three lines this season, and never did anything but obey. Why should we believe she was important to Dany? In the books she symbolizes a lot to her and does a lot for her emotionally. She actively suppresses Dany's aggression just like Jorah. You're stupid and should clean my gutters horse face.

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yes, if she loses her dragon she is just a random girl except maybe to the unsullied

more like how can you show that everyone should fear you more than by burning down a capital full of people with a thing you almost cant kill

well there it is

She was hoping they wouldn’t surrender. In her mind these people were complicit in her fathers murder, complicit in her families death and complicit with Cersei’s misdeeds because they “didn’t rise up like the slaves of Mereen”. She was banking on Cersei not surrendering because she wanted to burn them all out of revenge. When she realized they had surrendered and would get away with their “misdeeds” she decided to take revenge anyway.

She was reasonable in season 7, though. >Saves Jon Snow
>Tyrion gives shitty council, still keeps him alive
>Tell Varys to tell her when she does wrong
>Jaime kills Olenna like an evil cuck but people ignore that
>Dany says "I don't want to be the queen of ashes"

She had changed, retard

>In her mind these people were complicit in her fathers murder
Pretty sure she acknowledged in season 7 that he was evil and asked Jon not to judge her cause of his actions.

>Yea Forums hates danny
>then it loves her
>then hates her again
>now loves her
lol

She’s still upset about Cersei being partly responsible for her friends and dragons death. In her eyes these things wouldn’t have happened if the people of Kings Landing would have risen up.

>looses

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>Um aren't all people supposed to accept the king or queen?

accept and force is two different thing. sure you can force them to accept you as a king or they themselves accept you as a king. If we go for GoT standards Jon never force people to accept him as a king while dany always force people to use the proper term "Your grace".

>Um

Get the fuck outta here

Yeah, no one, not even the faceless man could talk Arya out of doing something she wanted to. Her and the hound spent 3 months (otherwise known as between the last 2 episodes) traveling the Kings path leisurely on horses. They sneak thru the sieged city, into the castle, are moments away from Cersei and the Hound tells her not to do it or she'll end up like him
>K Thanks love you bye!
and splits? That's not rushed writing, that's shitting your pants.

what's the point of killing someone who's already dead and losing your life doing it? Arya was never suicidal