I'm really sick of people whining about the end to Jaime's arc because of muh character development. Jaime going back to Cersei entirely made sense and showed what was most important to him without undoing the nuances to his character. People are just mad that Jaime didn't become a generic good guy because they think character development is just a train track from point A to point B
Jaime's arc was good
She fucking killed their son, and her being a bitch to Tyrion also killed their daughter.
She also killed their Uncle Kevan, and hundreds of innocent people. No it fucking doesn't make sense.
No, instead its point A to point B to point A.
Him returning the Cersei to kill her to end the war doesn't make him a "generic good guy".
Him returning to her "because he never cared about King's Landing" is legitimately false given previous statements by him and essentially turns him back into a "generic bad guy".
Him returning to kill her but Tyrion giving them an out to escape to Pentos would be more nuanced and better but instead they fucked it.
Honestly, Jaimi should have died when he chose to fucking joust against a dragon. His story is fairly interesting and his lack of eventual redemption is a good story if it wasn't told so shittily.
STFU op,
you think you know characters better than GGRM ?
fag supporting D&D...
Trying to help his defeated sister escape is not an evil doing, you mongoloids.
>but muh, she's evil
So what? He's saving the woman he loves, he always knew what she was. It was entirely withim character.
Also, what "redemption arc" you folks talk all the time? What redemption? What are the good things Jaime did all this time? He's done nothing, he's just not shit talking like he used in seasons 1 to 3 but he haven't done a single good deed ever since untill he went to Winterfell to be an extra.
>No, instead its point A to point B to point A.
Not only that, he went from B to A at the drop of a hat during a single episode right before he died.
This. Jaime turning his back on Cersei and his baby wouldn't have been a good thing, not to mention that he'd also could have potentially ended bloodshed had Daenerys not gone crazy. He did the right thing and died a good boy.
So people in real life never go from point A to point B to point A again?
Life isn't a fucking movie, people are miserable and fail to change all the fucking time. I agree with OP on this, this episode was a great conclusion to Jaime and Cersei's story. If anything, Jaime laying with Brienne was what didn't make sense at all.
the level of cope is immense. got is dead. It's all over u faggots. 49% on RT. this is Lost-tier concluding
True, but this one whining about Jaime makes no sense
got is dead be not because of Jaime. got died in Dorne and the Sand Snakes killed it.
Jamie may be the only character who does make sense this episode. He had an escape plan. Didn't much like his teleporting, but every fucking character teleports to where they need to be so whatever
Jaime was a cuck who's sole motivation was his sister's pussy.
Your the type to uironically agree with the 'SUBVERTED" meme. the reason why its shit is because jamies whole arc is that he wanted to be noble and protect innocents but he also wanted to protect himself and family at all all costs. him just saying nah i never really cared about inocents is retarded because then he killed the mad king for literally no reason
Jaime only loved Cersei. That’s the whole point. He was even deprived of being a dad to the kids he fathered.
When did he say he didn't care about innocents and how could he have stopped Daenerys from burning everything down including innocents? He and Cersei were doomed, he just tried to comfort her in her last moments because Cersei always thought of him as her savior.
She literally says to him "don't let me die like this", like Jaime is some sort of superhuman and can get her to safety magically. That's how highly she thought of him, and he couldn't do anything to save her, so he just said something stupid out of love "nothing else matters but us", when really what mattered the most was that they were going to die crushed under the Red Keep. Him saying that nothing else matters doesn't mean he's happy everyone is burning, it's really just comforting words for the person he loved the most.
I am not mad that Jaime didn't become a good guy. I am mad that Valonqar got thrown out of the window completely. It was an important plot device and moreover I wanted to see the whore who has been fucking moonboy for all I know to get murdered by either Jaime or Tyrion. Both would have been fine as long as she was murdered
Valonqar wasn't part of the show, even though they had the maggie the frog prophecy, so you shouldn't have expected it in the show.
>She fucking killed their son
she didn't
>and her being a bitch to Tyrion also killed their daughter
no, what the Dorne bitch did was totally uncalled for
Besides, did Jaime didn't really "love" their kids. Perhaps Myrcella a bit as uncle but that's it. He didn't really care about them that much
Personally, I like that prophecies wind up being bullshit, because prophecies are such a shitty literary device.
Imagine being so ugly and loathsome that the one person who takes pity and fucks you suddenly regrets every choice he's made that led him into bed with you and turns his back on saving his soul and go back to die together with a monster.
>When did he say he didn't care about innocents
In the last episode?
I agree but GRRM handles prophecy in an interesting way.
>*push him with the wrong hand*
>Woops! Do we do the scene again Dabid?
>No DB we have it
Let me translate this post for some of our new friends
>I'm really fuck desperate to be a contrarian and will use people upset about the end of Jamie's arc because being upset is pretty reasonable and therefore lots of people feel this way and it will be easy for me to stand out and feel special by simply taking the opposite stance. I don't even have to have cohesive reasoning behind my opinion, I can just step by step lay out the opposite points to the reasonable people's logic and claim it's can't be attacked because the only thing that matters is that is my opinion, and wow how special its a different opinion too; i must be a real deep thinker.
And that's a good thing
>Knock up giantess before going on a suicide mission to be with your true love
kinda based desu
Please, someone post the "imagine being Nikolai Coster-Waldau in that scene" copypasta
No, he doesn't.
From a narrative written point of view the story is just fine in the show.
If you bitch that
>Arya killed the night king
>Danny went full retard
>Jon snow didn't have an epic sword battle with night king
>Jamie fight at ending
Consider you have 70 IQ and are a fucking moron.
It is however okay to bitch that
>it was rushed
>Danny went unchallenged on her dragon and her plan to use a dragon to destroy all the boats is stupid
>that they didn't have a scouting boat to move her army through the water when her second dragon died
The shows story is written very well and most likely similar to the book. However they cut corners on logic to push the main plot. But the actual events that unfolded such as Danny going ape shit was 100% going to happen since season 1. Don't be a retard.
>Jaime should have died when he chose to joust against a dragon
It would have been maximum kino if he killed Dany there as well