/RBMK/ Chernobyl - New episode edition

this guy seemed like hes a total dick at first but he turned out to be prety based

and the female scientist was kinda annoying but she didnt ruin the show like i thought she was going to. jared harris was fucking great as always

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6/10. Would have preferred trading the scientist lady with a POV of your average Joe in Pripyat during the period before the evacuation.

Post Chernobyl kino
youtube.com/watch?v=nf6ON6pbDDA

These fucking guys.

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perfect amount to trigger retards and culture warriors, while not actually being anything that grown ups would concern themselves with. They made a composite autist of a bunch of people and made it a woman. The woman is a smart nuclear scientist and acts autistic and aloof. This is something that seems to bother stupid reactionary virginal types that spend a lot of time radicalizing against the concept of women on the internet to justify their sexual frustrations.

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The Resident Evil movies are 100% kino

I was annoyed by how she figures out so much about the water tanks etc despite not being there, and only with the magic of science and some code words exchanged via a phone discussion. Otherwise she's okay. Kind of bland compared to other characters so far, but it's only ep 2 so maybe she'll grow on me.

what happened to him in real life? executed/gulag?

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boom goes the dynamite

kek

>he still thinks there's graphite on the roof

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>3 million billion trillion bullets

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the graphite exists in your imagination, comrade

President Lincoln, the Confederate negro reactor has exploded, what do we do?

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based and residentevilpilled

That’s over 9000!

Comrade, Igor has a gameboy

Kek

2/10
not enough helicopters

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What were they even panicking about, surely they know the danger going in. I'm not talking about the torches I mean before that.

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Reminder: that is 3 followed by (6+9+12) 27 zeros.

Also Stellan was more accurate than Harris when he guessed that neutrons specifically were the bullets. Nobody mentioned photons but, eh, you can only ask for so much.

>torches
I know this is just bong speak for flashlights but why didn't they literally bring torches?

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cuz they retardedly gave them dosimeters that are blaring frighteningly

You want me to get a thousand tons of lead on two days' notice? Where am I supposed to get that, Billy?

based and iodinepilled

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He got 10 years of prison as well as other 5 people that the government committee found responsible.

3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

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>I mean, I don't know where he got the idea that giving the reactor a blowjob would stop the release of more radioactive material...

the blowjob isn't to cool off the reactor
it's for Comrade Shcherbina, so he doesn't throw us out of the helicopter

I hope there's more of these two working together. Shcherbina is based when he needs to be

>Haven't watched ep 2 yet, how bad is the insert lady?
A non-issue.
Emily Watson is also incredibly lovely compared to the cytotoxic waste that is Emma Watson

How did they get on this roof?

What do you mean? Even commieblocks have roof access.

Jesus i love these long coats. I miss the times when we didint allow people to dress like fucking retards.

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They have absorbed so much radiation they are unlocking hidden powers such as teleportation.

They hopped on one of those trillions of bullets

Is it a trap door, I couldn't see any doors in the panning shots

Perfectly fine. As the cretors correctly pointed out in the podcast, the USSR was all over the place when it came to gender equality. The power structure was almost exclusively male, but there were a lot of female medical specialists and academics, especially compared to the US at the time. It was normal and expected.
As a personal example, my mom, who was born in a conservative part of Ukraine, went on to study engineering and then worked in a military nuclear sub facility and nobody thought there was anything unusual about it.

a wizard did it

Eh I didn't really mind her except for the exchange with her manslave as she abruptly storms out of her office
>Where are you going?
>Chernobyl.

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They jumped up.

There's something about this show that is absolutely top class, it's hard to put my finger on it exactly. It's a combination of the looks of the characters, their costumes, the actual sets are believable, the general actions and ideas of people are spot on, it's almost as if you are transported there. if someone thats more eloquent could describe this.

Especially how they flew from Moscow to Chernobyl then back to Moscow with the sciensechick and then back to Chernobyl. All in one day.
They could not simply call the guy.

*creators

>it's not 3.6
>it's 15000

THIS IS FINE COMRADES

most people look like douchebags in those

THE METAL IS FUCKING RAAAAW
LOOK AT ALL THIS FUCKING
WHO'S PUT THIS IN THE CORE?
HOW MUCH IS IN THE CORE?
LOOK!
LOOK!
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

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yeah, they usually have roof hatches

That's peak fashion. Not bad not good komrade.

not great but not horrible. Carry on

>fireman is called IGNITEnko

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even more amazing when you find out the guy who directed this usually does schlock like Scary Movie 4 or The Hangover 3

Kind of has that 'Ayo hold my beer' vibe to her, which is pretty annoying.

youtube.com/watch?v=WTROon-xI9g
EP 3 Promo

I thought science chick drove from Belarus to Pripyat where the rest of them were staying

Pottery

so...
>proceed to pierce the paper with the pencil

So, possibly
>biorobots shoveling graphite
>corium magma
>hospital body horror
next episode? That's what I got from that.

Ignatenko, user.

hes a guy who understands the system and its consequences but means well and will do what he can when he can

how did other countries react to detecting radiation coming from russia
>you guys ok over there? anything we should know about?

they have to dig that tunnel under the reactor first
bio-robots will probably be episode 4

She did. They flew to Moscow to report to Gorbachev after that.

I'm confused, they already evacuated pripyat, so when is parade supposed to happen?

>corium magma
God I hope they show the elephant foot

Don't spoil the fun, fren or one of my soldiers wil throw you out of this helicopter

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She wasn't nearly as bad as the doomsayers claimed. It also helps that in the post-episode commentary, they're being very upfront about the fact that not only is she a fictional character, but she's also an amalgamation of many scientists across the country, so of course she's gonna feel a bit marysue-ish and know-it-all.
Also I barely have felt any bit of wahmen empowerment. Even the scene in the fat guy's office was more about the weight of hierarchy in the soviet system, regardless of gender, rather than "pfft silly woman, know your place".

This is of course as far as episode 2 goes, things may change later.

I don't understand how you would get a thermal explosion of 3-4 megatons when the corium lava contacts the water pool. Seems a bit too much.
4 000 000 000 kg of TNT explosive power from flashing into steam.

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Here are the remains of your reactor, bro.

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Sweden figured it out first; we;;, they knew radiation was coming from SOMEWHERE, but not yet Russia specifically
they called the IAEA to let them know
the IAEA then phoned around to everybody they knew who had nuclear reactors and asked "hey, y'all doing okay?"
eventually, US spy satellites made a pass over Ukraine and got pictures of the giant plume of smoke pouring out of the reactor, and the cat was officially out of the bag

pbpbpbpb

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Nothing to worry about comrades

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1st of May. In Kiev and Minsk.

the parade would have been in nearby cities, like Kiev
IIRC, the director said on the show's podcast that they wanted to do that scene, but just didn't have the room to fit it into the show

like, "lava" lava?

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It's also so hot the water is separated into hydrogen (explosive) and oxygen gases

Oh i thought they were doing it in the show. You faggots hyped me up for no reason

how else can this meme format be used?

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That scene did not happen IRL. The committee was assembled in Chernobyl itself, not in Moscow.

>BUT THE FIRE WAS WAY OVER THERE AND WE WERE WAY OVER HERE

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That's pretty cool. Incels btfo once again.

This is not Game of Thrones, it's 80's Soviet Union. They had helicopters, jet aircraft and cars. Moscov is just a few hundred km from Chernobyl.

Pretty much the same way they reacted to the 2017 Russian radiation incident.
>European power plant 1 detects radiation: >Guys, did we fuck up something?
>Nope, it;'s coming from the outside.
>European power plant 2 detects radiation:
>The fuck? Does anyone know anything about this?
>European nuclear authorities collectively trace the source to USSR/Russia:
>Is there something you want to tells us, comrades?
>USSR/ Russia:
>....Uh, it wasn't us?
But then it was exposed anyway.

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It's because they just used the Chernobyl wikipedia page as their script

The episode was kino save for the scientist lady. Taking a couple of points off for that, so an 8/10 hands down. Boy had I no idea the whole thing could escalate as fast and hard as they explained it.

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Trillions of bullet, Mister Gorbachev. The size, of an atom

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I think that's what this show is excelling at that makes it so engrossing. It's using this dire, seemingly apocalyptic but man-made situation to show how our common threads of bravery and honor always persist regardless of any repressive environment we've lived or grown up in. That's how you subvert expectations effectively and it's fucking kino

>hits table

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>tfw want to watch this but two other friends want to wait until saturday so we can see it together

Yeah, except the committee did not meet in Moscow. It was assembled in Chernobyl. It would be retarded to fly back in worth several times a day just to say a couple of words.

>Saturday
what the actual fuck

It's the authenticity. As a russkie I can tell you this is precisely what an average soviet city looked like in the 80s. They absolutely nailed every detail down to a t.

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Yeah, because we usually gather on saturdays anyways to play board games or watch a movie so they want to combine it. But i want to watch this episode asap so i can talk about it with my bros here.

Watch it now and read up on everything so you can autistically explain everything to them now on saturday, make sure to pause often aswell.

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Read his biography, he later was coordinating government committee on Armenian earthquake.

I usually just watch it anyways and then watch it again and pretend like it's my first time if I'm that impatient

This show is better than Rome. I'm bored of this show and I'm only on episode 2 brother -hh

>be nuclear scientist/engineer
>know dosimeter maxes out at 3.6
>see constant 3.6
>assume this means the real value is 3.6

Why is there a man tangled in the rods? That must be at least 3.6 roentgens

prove it's not 3.6, comrade

It's a completely bullshit theory pushed by one fringe soviet scientist. It's very sad that they choose to include it and undermine the credibility of the show.

>Sm delaminated again ai law 2 call shuttle

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not terrible

Anyone here unironically considering at some point to maybe go to Pripyat?

go to bed, Yuri

well it was a woman's idea

Well the dosimeter says 3.6, so when someone goes "what does the dosimeter say?" I guess you answer with 3.6 and then move on with your day. It's someone elses problem now

nah, I'm good

have

Last time I was in Ukraine my phone and PSP were stolen, and that was way before the crimea shitfest

>dude let's go to the radiation capital of the world for fun, it's comfy lol cyka blyat

post yfw the episode is complete shit

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Retard its gone now you dum dum

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>be at a nuclear plant
>have a dosimeter with max value of 3.6
Were they retarded?

>go to Ukraine.
>get robbed by feral khokhols way before you reach Pripyat

I hope they don't cut the scene where the firemans waifu eats an orange or whatever he offered her while hes literally nuclear like in the interview

*throws up

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That's why it's not terrible.

they had at least one other dosimeter that went higher, but it was destroyed in the blast

I am

No, they were not. It's just the show is stupid.

they had others they just malfunctioned when they turned em on lol

...water in my reactor core? I'll have it thank you very much

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so Mary Sue even The Guardian noticed it

Got all teary eyed when the divers volunteered

Brave men these

3.6 nothing to worry about comrade

It's only slightly higher than background radiation and you won't have any lasting effects as long as you don't drink the water or eat the dirt

They survived it btw. 1 or 2 are still alive, one died of unrelated causes 20 years later

Sherbina

I laughed out loud because they could only communicate in grunts, should've been sullen silence and heavy breathing

How do fearmongers explain that?

Based.

>sneedwater

--->

It's Shcherbina.

Well now I (and probably a lot of posters here) feel pretty silly for getting hyped so much by the first episode

I don't know. My biggest problem that it's starting to become a big tourist location. Last thing I heard about the place is that volunteers were cleaning up the town because tourists have left so much trash that it started to ruin the authentic look.

a lot are still in denial, blaming it on our soggy knees

THIS ! it's not the first time I've heard these numbers and they always felt fishy to me.
Of course, just a few hundred or thousand KILOGRAMMES of explosives equivalent would be enough to blow up the other three reactors and make the meanest dirty bomb ever, so the threat was there nontheless.

But having a steam explosion rank in the MEGATONS of TNT order of magnitude ? just no. according to the scientist, there were approximately 7.000 cubic meters (or tons) of water in the tanks, so even if that whole lot was instant-flashed into steam, I fail to see how water would have roughly 500 times more explosive power than pure TNT.

Then comes the problem of instantly steam-flashing such an amount of water, both in terms of distributing the heat-source all across that huge volume in a fraction of a second, and in terms of the raw amount of energy required to do it. The corium lava had a temperature of a few thousand C°, would likely have bleeded into the tanks in a small and slow continuous stream (not like if you dumped the whole reactor in one go and more like insular volcanoes ditching lava into the sea) and water typically has a very high heat capacity (plus the huge amount of energy required for its liquid=>gas phase change), unlike metals.

So again, a localised explosion at the point of contact between the lava flow and the water was definitely possible and may have been enough to damage the whole plant and its three other reactors. But instant-flashing all 7.000 tonnes of it seems dubious on a logistical level, and even if you could, the megaton range yield of the explosion seems even more dubious.

why would I? Episode 2 was kino

>when you know too much about concrete

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This is the same nerd who got BTFO in the other thread

I've had worse sunburn desu

Same case in eastern europe. Women were all over the place, from menial jobs like cleaning to industrial ones, operating lathes, welding etc. My mother studied economics and finance and ended up working in the financial department in a heavy machinery plant that employed 10000 people.

You really think someone would do that? Be disingenuous on an anonymous imageboard?

>he's seething about the female composite character

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Why do you think I'm being disingenuous? Episode 2 was pretty good I thought not as good as the first one but still very well made

just turn your brain off bro

>You really think someone would do that? Be disingenuous on an anonymous imageboard?
said the shill

If you didn't like ep 2 you're a cunt. post pictures of your gash cunt.

who here begging for that bullet? I should have never started watching the new episode.

However it would be easier to talk about the things I do understand instead of the things I don't understand.

>It's fine, only 3.6, nothing more than a chest x-ray, just go :^)

Oh and fuck "street artists" who think that fucking up the buildings with some "deep" graffiti is clever.

it went from 8/10 to 4/10, and not just because of 1 fictional character

>said the shill
exactly what am I supposed to be shilling here

That's because those numbers are bullshit. The theory was that it will make a 30 km blast, that's why Ryzhkov evacuated 30 km zone on May 2nd.

>it went from 8/10 to 4/10
What issues did you have with the episode?

The guy that was on the roof in first episode is okay, right?

Stay mad, flat earther.

>exactly what am I supposed to be shilling here
culture wars autism prove me wrong

I know, I'm Polish and watch it with subs but it's still funny to hear their pronunciation
It's surprisingly good tho and costumes and interiors are based af

yes of course, I'm fine

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If you want a vision for the future imagine 20 stories high concrete commie blocks stretching from horizon to horizon.

>2012
>unable to discuss media I like online because feminist shitters keep derailing conversations into political bullshit

>2019
>unable to discuss media I like online because subhuman /pol/ fucktards keep derailing conversations into political bullshit

>tfw there is no longer a place on the internet to escape this nonsense

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You were thoroughly and repeatedly blown the fuck out in the last thread why are you here still making the same arguments?

>ZERO memes out of the new episode
well this took a nosedive

if dubs all nu-Yea Forums politically deranged zoomers fuck off and we have a comfy Chernobyl thread

@114741027
into the filter it goes

Bourys Sherbina saved the episode, It was a bit worse but they need to show more boring events too

>You were thoroughly and repeatedly blown the fuck out in the last thread why are you here still making the same arguments?

You are delusional, go to the infirmary.

God damn it, who decided drunk Russians should get to play with atoms and shit?

Stop consuming Anglo media

It's actually 15000

isn't there a civil war in Ukraine right now?

that's Sitnikov, knew he was dead when he looked at the core.

Who was more fucked him or the 2 that were in the water turning valves.
I assumed those 2 would be dead but they were in hospital, I don't think they showed this guy though

*projectile vomits*

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Numerous, mainly nonsensical plot points, lazy writing, complete left field departure from being somewhat accurate to the real events
the show was good when it was dramatizing a series of well documented events, but when it came time to make some shit up it completely fell apart, even the pacing suffered, the one potentionally good scene was ruined and cut short

but why should I explain myself when I'll just be called a shill doing some culture war thing the kiddies on papercraft & oregami board buzz about

Pripyat is not anywhere near Donetsk.

Nah, they are in "cease fire".

>"Then I'll do it myself"
Fucking balls of steel and a true hero

Fifty thousand people used to live here... now it's a ghost town.

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the range of any instrument is inversly proportional to the accuracy. Higher range=less accurate.

Before Chernobyl no accident of the same scale had ever happened and 3.6R is actually orders of magintude higher than you would encounter even if a leak happened. These dosimeters were there to detect a malfunction/leak and it is perfectly sufficient unless the core blows up - and for that they had the high-range dosimeter that got buried in the rubble.
It's like asking why a kitchen thermometer does not go up to 2500 degrees in case of a thermite fire breaking out in your kitchen.

This. A lot of it was setting up for the rest of the show, with the meetings and new characters being introduced.

couldn't take him seriously after he threatened to throw Jared Harris out of the helicopter and execute the pilots desu
he calms down somewhat after that, but terrible intro to the character

>yfw it's only 3.6 roentgen

He's name was Vladimir Pikhalov.

...

it's a lot bigger than I thought if this is accurate

>Numerous, mainly nonsensical plot points, lazy writing

nice buzzwords you mong, just say what was wrong with the episode rather than try and weasel yourself out of an argument by making blanket statements

>mainly nonsensical plot points
such as?

>lazy writing
any examples?

>complete left field departure from being somewhat accurate to the real events
The limitations of it being a 5 part mini series means some things must be adjusted and condescend. That being said wouldn't you agree it's still pretty accurate when compared to other shows?

>even the pacing suffered
how so?

>but why should I explain myself when I'll just be called a shill
I've been pretty courteous to you I don't know what makes you say that

I agree, I would have much preferred a POV from a Pripyat local going about his daily life, during the period before the evacuation.

and people wonder why there's no discussion on this board

I was planning to do a road trip a bit before I found out about the series

take lots of time to explain why a FEMALE couldn't understand the complicated science

I'm legit curious to hear what exactly you found nonsensincal, lazy or inaccurate

>fire breaks out in kitchen
>maybe a family dies, and maybe next house down catches fire

>reactor core explodes
>60M dead, entire continent basically unlivable

Yeah, there's certainly no need for higher range equipment in one vs the other.

I need the soundtrack that played before the lads suit up.

It shows how party officials operated in ussr, he's a good man but the way the system operates forces him to act accordingly to stay afloat

>>reactor core explodes

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>5 years

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what does POV mean?

youtube.com/watch?v=aIC73xZPLgU

this guy has a few videos where he explores the surrounding area, meets some dude meeting with his 120 year old mom out in the middle of nowhere in the video i linked.

user we're both nuclear shitposters here explain to me how one cute tummy posts results in a complete ban

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No one expected that it could explode and there were no contingency plans for that. Worst case scenario was that a fuel channel explodes, a person or 2 get mildly irradiated and the reactor has to be repaired.

I want to watch the damn episode
Can you guys give me a link? I don't want to download it tho

>Point of View

Over 200 GoTgens have been measured on the catalog. I say we evacuate the board.

I think the lady scientist wasn't that bad as other anons are saying, or even that article.

not a bad episode, 7/10, this one is mostly about setting the ground work and plot points for the rest, not bad imo

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You're on this committee. But we don't grant you the rank of comrade.

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He served only 5.

prisoner of var

radiation poisoning takes time to kill, many weeks in fact. As the show is currently something like 2-3 days from the disaster noone has died of radiation yet (besides those killed immediately by the blast), but a lot of them are dead men walking with no hopes of survival.

based and rationalpilled just you lads wait for the miners who had to tunnel underneath the plant in order to place coolant under the reactor that will be pure kino

We need to drop a 5000 ton mix of sage and spoilers to contain the spread.

I loved how Bryukhanov and Fomin tried to pull the "how does the reactor explode" shtick but it didn't fly with Legasov and Shcherbina.

Scientist lady and how she finds out about the disaster, her reasoning being incompatible with her later theory of the multiple megaton explosion (complete horseshit at that point), timeframes not lining up at all in any of that.
Mainly skips over evacuation of Pripyat which I thought was gonna be the meat of the episode, also depicts it as more rushed that it actually was.
Boris Shcherbina behaving like ebin hollywood bad russian general was pretty lazy, but he gets a little more human after that.
No apparent time transitions between Gorbachev meetings, I gathered he must've been in Kiev the 2nd time around

I could nitpick all day, but this board ain't conducive to actual discussion and I don't have all day

This series cured my depression from GoT's shitfest.
I'm fucking hooked. Too bad it's only 5 episodes.

Just sign up for a month's free trial in some streaming service like Netflix or HBO.

but there was a high-range dosimeter on site, one got rekt and the other failed after it was turned on. For everyday operation the 3.6R dosimeter was more than enough and there had never been a similar disaster before (at least officialy, as Mayak disaster was kept secret)

He died 4 years after chernobyl, in 1988 he was apointed to Spitak earthquake's comission. Those were tough last years for him

watch The Terror if you haven't already, at least that takes 4-5 episodes until sliding downhill

I'm about to delete these Chernobyl kinos from server. Anyone interested in them?

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It's the second biggest european country you know.

fili dot cc, It's with polish subs but if you click ENG under the player you can watch it without them

>Scientist lady and how she finds out about the disaster
What issue did you have with this in particular?

>her reasoning being incompatible with her later theory of the multiple megaton explosion
how so?

>Mainly skips over evacuation of Pripyat which I thought was gonna be the meat of the episode
That seems more like a personal complaint rather than an objective problem with the show.

>No apparent time transitions between Gorbachev meetings
I think this is a result of them having to condense down the events to fit into a 5 part mini series more than anything

>but this board ain't conducive to actual discussion
When you call people disingenuous for just suggesting Episode 2 was kino then perhaps you are part of why this board is so shit tier for actual discussion

They didn't place the cooling device they intended but filled it with concrete instead.

That's how Shcherbina and men in his position were supposed to act. Only after he was told he's gonna die in 5 years did it sink in for him. Flying people to meetings is an afterthought when you're in an emergency situation so they could have made the trip back after checking the plant out.

>there were a lot of female medical specialists and academics, especially compared to the US at the time.

And then USSR collapsed, and collapsed HARD. Am I surprised?

uuuuuhhhhh like coincidence much?

No, because I've learned through experience that visiting most places that are attractions is unfulfilling as fuck. Literally the most boring times of my trek through yurop was when we went to all the meme locations like eyeful tower, berlin wall, etc. The best part was just wondering around from neighborhood to neighborhood and catching glimpses of everyday life. That's why I can guarantee if you went to Pripyat, you'd get bored inside 5 mins
>wow it's all abandoned just like they said it was!
>*takes picture of nothing*
Just replay STALKER (1 or CoP), it'll be a far better experience.

>Scientist lady and how she finds out about the disaster
okay, I'll give you that. Having her do the job of a hundred soviet scientists was lame, but that's about the only thing I didn't like about the episode
>her reasoning being incompatible with her later theory of the multiple megaton explosion
>timeframes not lining up at all in any of that
How?
>Mainly skips over evacuation of Pripyat which I thought was gonna be the meat of the episode
Well that's like, just your opinion man. I liked it as it was
>Boris Shcherbina behaving like ebin hollywood bad russian general was pretty lazy
So like any high-ranking official in the first episode? It's perfectly in line with what was established before, nobody knows what happened, those who do are called delusional
>No apparent time transitions between Gorbachev meetings
What's wrong about that? This is an emergency of unseen before scale, figure he could find a window in his schedule?

wtf i hate women now

>OP YOU ARE TOO CLOSE TOO FAGGOTRY DO YOU COPY
>OP!
>OP!~

Might as well go visit my Grandparents old farm. I'm sure they look similar.

Not spending the last 10 years embroiled in a war in Afghanistan. It's because there were women doctors, thanks mr. Best Historian.

>raised 10 children in that shed

based babushka

It didn't collapse because of its academics, that's for sure. If you want to drag muh culture wars into it so much, you might want to note the preceding part of the sentence:
>The power structure was almost exclusively male
Letting men make any decisions was a mistake, I guess.

>First episode is a total sausage fest
Unanimously "OMG so kino"
>Second episode has one completely non-controversial female character
Incels sperg out

Letting drunk and weak retards to the top was the real mistake. Weak leadership opened a crack on the authority and USSR collapsed in the first opportunity.

radiaton can't interfere with electronics in a fucking torch

you have a good point. actually.

why was work mandatory for women in the USSR, who stayed home to watch the children?

I've been told to have sex and to go back to /pol/ for having problems with Emily Watson's character last thread, but she seems to oddly be the sticking point, so here we go
she at first dismisses the radiation being result of a weapons test because she sees evidence of uranium decay, not plutonium. Then the megatons explosion theory gets put forward by her, and that would be from plutonium in the core lava going supercritical from contant with water? It's a fringe theory, and there was risk of a 2nd explosion, but not immediately after the first steps of liquidation and not MEGATONS, destroying everything in a 30 km radius. So she gets BTFO by the show's own logic, if that's not nonsesnical and lazy writing I don't know what is.

I have more complaints about the majorirty of the scenes in the episode, but that is nitpicky and time consuming for me to articulate into something coherent and solid

Nice strawman nigger faggot. It's not about her being female, it's about her effortlessly doing what in real life took a hundred scientists' hard work

it collapsed cause a bunch of old men tried to stop any progressive reforms with a coup

nice buzzwords

Why would you let half the workforce stay at home when you can employ them? Some schools had after-school programs where they kept kids until they got picked up.

>solves your flashlight problem

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i find it ironic that firefighters died outside yet 2 out of 3 volunteers are still alive and kicking
businessinsider.com/chernobyl-volunteers-divers-nuclear-mission-2016-4

Eagles you moron

Actually ...

>why was work mandatory for women in the USSR
For many reasons. First, the country was in dire need for labor after the losses in WWII and its economy couldn't take any ideological hang ups that would prevent women from working. Sitting at home simply wasn't an option. Second, if the country wants to be productive, the more educated working people you have, the better.
>who stayed home to watch the children?
Nobody. If the family was lucky, they had grandparents and elderly relatives who would look after the small kids, or they sent them to daycare. Older kids (we're talking 7+ here) were usually left to their own devices, so they would play together, visit their friends' grandparents if there were any, or go to extracurricular activities in school or elsewhere.

The firefighters had no protection and were surrounded by highly radioactive blocks of graphite and breathing radioactive dust for hours

i agree rather than having a composite character they should've crammed in the hundred additional characters solving it instead.

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Even a small group of 4-5 people would've made more sense than a single ubergenius.

I'm reassured now.

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could have had the other scientists she works with show up to work and have her act as the emissary for all of them

>english accents

thank you for your service

should have drank more vodka

The firefighters had no masks and no protection suits.
They were exposed to the scattered core fragments and the irradiated air for quite a while.

Do you feel in charge?

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during this scene i kept imagining myself giving him a bj under the desk

She gets annoying with as she seems to figure everything out based on nothing, but at least for now, she isn't ruining the show or anything

you would not, for the life of you, made me watch this show if the accent was russian/slavic

>I promise you if you reply directly to that tripfag by tomorrow you'll be begging for that ban!

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guy on the right (Fomin) goes insane and breaks his glasses and slits his wrists open before trial but gets saved.

Females have no place in the workplace, they are mentally and emotionally equivalent to children

Can a comrade explain the drinking glasses/superstition bit from the bar? You will get a 400 ruple stipend.

>400 rubles

Some are and some are not. I've met women who were capable and men who were incapable of doing something and vice-versa. You blanket statement is like me saying Americans have no place in food preparation because everything they make is burgers and they're fat.

He wanted the freshly cleaned one and not the one potentially collecting radioactive dust

is the core lying in the same position in the present as it was after the disaster ? that looks pretty fucked

Ok watched the episode, the lady certainly felt out of place, knowing everything and magically being able to access places and information.
Also still the 4 Mt steam explosion sounds like bs
youtube.com/watch?v=ahZD95l1MvM

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t NEET

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Remember, Alyosha, the roads of Smolenshchina,
Remember the rain and the mud and the pain,
The women, exhausted, who brought milk in pitchers,
And clasped them like babies at breast, from the rain.

The whispering words as we passed them - "God bless you!"
The eyes where they secretly wiped away tears!
And how they all promised they would be "soldatki",
- The words of old Russia from earlier years.

The road disappearing past hills in the distance,
Its length that we measured with tears on the run.
And villages, villages, churches and churchyards,
As if all of Russia were gathered in one.

It seemed that in each Russian village we passed through,
The hands of our ancestors under the sod
Were making the sign of the cross and protecting
Their children, no longer believers in god.

You know, I believe that the Russia we fight for
Is not the dull town where I lived at a loss
But those country tracks that our ancestors followed,
The graves where they lie, with the old Russian cross.

I speak for myself, but in countryside Russia
It first came about that I learned to belong
To the tedious miles between village and village,
The tears of the widow, the women's sad song.

...

Post new memes, or i'll have one of these soldiers throw you out of the helicopter.

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The whole suicide squad story is grossly overblown. There was no such danger of a fucking megaton explosion, nor did the guys sent in died so fast.

from wiki:
However, research by Andrew Leatherbarrow, author of the 2016 book Chernobyl 01:23:40,[86] determined that the frequently recounted story is a gross exaggeration. Alexei Ananenko continues to work in the nuclear energy industry, and rebuffs the growth of the Chernobyl media sensationalism surrounding him.[92] While Valeri Bezpalov was found to still be alive by Leatherbarrow, the 65-year-old Baranov had lived until 2005 and had died of heart failure.[93]

cont.

Remember, Alyosha, the hut at Borisov,
The cry of the girl as she mourned, and the sight
Of the grey-haired old woman, her velveteen jacket,
The old man, as if dressed for death, all in white!

And what could we say? With what words could we comfort them?
Yet seeming to gather the sense of our lack,
The old woman said "We shall wait for you, darlings!
Wherever you get to, we know you'll come back!"

"We know you'll come back!" said the fields and pastures,
"We know you'll come back!" said the woods and the hill.
Alyosha, at nights I can hear them behind me.
Their voices are following after me still.

By old Russian practice, mere fire and destruction
Are all we abandon behind us in war.
We see alongside us the deaths of our comrades,
By old Russian practice, the wound to the fore.

Alyosha, till now we've been spared by the bullets.
But when (for the third time) my life seemed to end,
I yet still felt proud of the dearest of countries,
The great bitter land I was born to defend.

I'm proud that the mother who bore us was Russian;
That Russian I'll fall as my ancestors fell;
That going to battle, the woman was Russian,
Who kissed me three times in a Russian farewell!

freshly washed=less radioactive

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There is almost no core left. That huge gap underneath the thing with all the control rods is where the core used to be.

>next morning after Taco Bell

But wasn't there still a risk of a massive contamination

Why the fuck do you all need memes? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>It's surprisingly good tho

Croat here, i'm surprised that they're not butchering most of the pronunciations in the show, good effort from the lads

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>food analogy

>series takes place in the 20th century
>durr why didn't they use 21st century technology

>knowing everything
>nuclear physicist
almost like they go to school for a fucking decade and then spend their whole life working in that field or something
> and magically being able to access places
literally asks to be arrested

The comrade was probably asking if there really was a jinx involving a drinking glass in the slavic folklore.

>sexist statement with 0 base in reality
Two can play at this stupid game.

The fear about the explosion was very real at the time, even though it proved to be partially groundless later. The potential consequences were so horrifying nobody wanted to risk it.
You're right about the guys living, though.

get a load of this hot head

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Cool show. I did wonder about having a foreign scientist in the meetings with the soviet top brass though.

Her determining that the lower level would be flooded alone was a bit out of the blue

honestly i thought he was worried about being poisoned in the glass somehow, but then i remembered shcherbina died irl due to radiation getting in his drink

>specialist of RBMK reactor dosent think about the water pipes that broke and flooded the compartement below the reactor
>some fictional nuclear physicist take a look at the rbmk reactor schematics and in 3 secondes she know everything and become the reason that they prevented a catastrophic explosion
>they even tell Gorbatchev that without her help they wouldnt have knew

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bless

>invented in 1965
>employed by the US Navy starting in 1973
seemingly the soviets would have at least been aware of their existence by 1986

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>knowing everything
She wasn't as annoying as i thought. BUT she wasn't anywhere near the plant and didn't know that the firefighters flooded everything with water. What a sick wild guess i suppose.

You are right, regardless a a physics degree holder this overdramatization of numbers bother me.

how can I filter tripfags on Clover?

She saw fire engines. She says this when she first meets Legasov and Shcherbina.

Yes it can but it requires tons of radiations, something like at least 10 lethal doses. That's why only the robots sent on the roof for hours got fucked.

Anyway, what they showed never happened. The guys went in and were perfectly fine, the radiations didn't fuck their flashlights.

But I mean even southern Belarus being uninhabitable is cataclysmic

>out of the blue
they spent the whole episode showing how she learned things and showing her desperate journey to get there and make the point.

Her being a composite character representing what a likely every nuclear physicist was doing at that time is just easier.

If that character was exactly the same kind of aloof and autistic and self-assured, but was a quirky boy nobody would give a shit. Had it been a Jeff Golblum type that did literally the exact same plot none of the virgins would be bitching.

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Actual pictures of that lid.

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Man, you can see when all of them snapped prior to the explosion.
It's sickly looking.

>BUT she wasn't anywhere near the plant and didn't know that the firefighters flooded everything with water.
its on fire. and she knew what they were doing by giving the iodine pills to the secretary and using that to curry favor and call her and ask what they were doing.

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the core is 12m wide and 7m deep

>dad studied physics in the 70s
>went to eastern europe numerous times in the 80s
>want to watch the show with him
>he was already sceptical how factual episode 1 would be (and I think he still believes a lot of propaganda the soviets put out back then to he west)
>episode 2 seems to make up a lot of stuff and to be muss less accurate than episode 1
>no way I'm gonna watch it with him now

wanted to hear his opinion and thought he might enjoy it, but opportunity wasted

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Women are so dumb and incompetent the entire medical field is being overtaken by them.

yeah and by the way i don't know much about glirious soviet engineering but they probably didn't put computer microchips in something as simplistic in its design as a flashlight.

if lights really did go out in real life it was probably due to equipment failure, not radiation.

He's delusional, get him to the infirmary.

It's better to understand the numbers and statements springing up in the show as how they were uncovered or just hypothized, not using our benefit of hindsight. This is not a documentary.

I thought she was okay, but was disappointed when I found out she didn't exist and was an amalgamation of IRL people.

Will she be alright?

She saw the fire engines so she guessed, nothing spectacular.

Once upside down wont accumulate dust.

> Before Chernobyl no accident of the same scale had ever happened
user...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster

She's already dead

just try to remind yourself that you're not watching a documentary, user. distortion of facts, inaccuracies and outright fiction for the purpose of drama are fine as long as we get served quality kino.

>Iodine QT will never give you a spicy handjob

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Bingo. It was an unprecedented situation and a lot of catastrophic scenarios were seen as extremely likely because everything looked terrible at the time.

>It's easier to write a single mary sue than a couple of scientist characters, if you think it's a lazy shitty idea it's because you hate women
I really fucking hate this board

Is she dead?

>who stayed home to watch the children?

The children were at school or kindergarten.

It's like how pic related figured out that the core exploded by seeing the report about spicy rocks and realized it was graphite which meant it exploded.

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Nursing is nothing more than babysitting

But it was physically impossible with an RBMK reactor, so no need for high range instruments on that site

> I think the lady scientist wasn't that bad as other anons are saying, or even that article.
Agreed. Her worst moments was the scene with the "I prefer my opinion to yours" guy and her saying "I'm sure you would" condescendingly to her co worker.

Her introduction with her and the co worker widdling down down the potential sources was great.

>I really fucking hate this board
good. Fuck off faggot. GO BACK.

It did but thank god Shcherbina knew his concrete well and saved the day.

How long do I need to study concrete and fully understand it?

The details about the Mayak disaster were only declassified in 1989, three years after Chernobyl. The only more or less public account of it before that had been dismissed by everybody.
>In 1977, Medvedev published Hazards of Nuclear Power, which mentioned the Kyshtym nuclear disaster in passing. At the time, the disaster was essentially unknown, and his work was dismissed as baseless propaganda even by his Western colleagues.

are those the rods?

You need about 20 good men and have worked a lifetime in a shoe factory

Studying civil engineering would be a good start.

>specialist of RBMK reactor

Legasov is no expert in RBMK reactors, he was a chemist. Screenwriter confirmed that in the podcast.

6 min in you have the radiation lady working when nobody else is and deducing there's been a problem in chernobyl and the nurse telling a doctor he is doing things wrong knowing perfectly how to deal with radiation. Can't take it seriously after this

>be Soviet Union
>be such a trainwreck of a country your RBMK reactor explodes
Come on

So guys, what are the best Chernobyl documentaries?

Is the Discovery Channel one good?

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He studied nuclear energy after his graduation as a chemist, he WAS an expert on RBMK reactors.

>this character is literally the only one willing to stand up to the bureaucrats and "magically" figures out things that nobody else thought about
makes sense. based.
>another character does the same thing, but is a woman
HACK WRITING. TRIGGERED.

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But he would hate the dramatisation and outright invention of events and even characters. He seems to have watched a newer documentation on Chernobyl and hated it. But he seems determined to believe what some soviet scientist said in May 1986 and has a knee-jerk reaction to anything that suggests nuclear energy could be dangerous. I guess because there was so much hysteria in the west about it.

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He was still talking about the army making them look bad when Shcherbina arrived. He was still in denial or actively covering it up. They even made a list of those responsible so they wouldn't be blamed.

That's Fomin in the pic.

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It's even on his wiki page.
>Valery Alekseyevich Legasov (Russian: Baлepий Aлeкceeвич Лeгacoв; September 1, 1936 – April 27, 1988) was a prominent Soviet inorganic chemist and a member of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR.
>He received the degree of Candidate in 1967 and his doctorate in chemistry in 1972
Legasov was a brilliant guy, but he wasn't even a physicist, let alone RBMK expert.

But nuclear energy is dangerous as fuck

one is real, other not

Except one was real and the other an insert.

>and "magically" figures out things that nobody else thought about

Wew a scientist knowing scientific shit while shoe factory directors don't sure is magical.

Your dad sounds like a real square.

>He graduated from the Mendeleev Moscow Institute of Chemistry and Technology and then studied at the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy.
>and then studied at the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy.

Read the full bio. He graduated in chemistry, doesn't mean he stopped studying after that.

Wonder if Gorby will watch it, he'd be surprised at who this literal nobody was

can someone here make a webm of this scene, it felt like a morgunov skit

Didn't Fomin get his nuclear physics degree by correspondence?

have sex incel

Jesus fucking christ, I never said he was not an expert in radiation. He was a nuclear scientist, one of the most prominent Soviet nuclear scientists - but it does not make him an expert in RBMK reactors. He knows a lot about the chemistry of radioactive compounds, but he has no expertise in this particular reactor design that would exceed that of any other decent Soviet nuclear scientist.

Well, if you build some shitty reactor in the 50s and let it run by commies. But its actual much more safer and more environment friendly than coal-fired plants, which are often build in replacement (even if you calculate in the biggest accidents like fukushima). I'm actually all for nuclear energy, but for some reason my dad can't stand it when I want to discuss the dangers or fuckups in the past.

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I'm innocent. Dyatlov made me do it.

You think Gorbachev is somehow unfamiliar with the concept of composite characters and creative license?

technically no. they're both actors in a tv show based on true events. One is a fictionalized version of a dead person. They other is a fictionalized version of multiple likely-dead people.
lol "insert."

god im so sick of the stupid LAAAADY from sweden or minsk or whatever irrelevent bullshit place shes from it took loads of scientists to figure this stuff out 99% of whom were men not one dumb fucking broad and now shes RUINING THE SHOW

I think it'd be puzzling to him that those who were wrecking their brains trying to figure out the situation were composed into a singular character

>virgins telling people to have sex

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Why are redditors so obsessed with lurking these threads and taking their content? Went there after finding that other guy posting here yesterday and their board is all reposted Yea Forums posts like this

reddit.com/r/ChernobylTV/comments/bo8qcz/comrade_do_you_mind_explaining_to_me_how_exactly/

Legasov was first deputy director of the Kurchatov Atomic Institute since 1983, he was a certified chemist but he then studied nuclear energy and became the deputy director of the most important nuclear institute of USSR.

So yeah, he knew about RBMK reactors since they were designed by the Kurchatov Institute which he directed.

If you're a chemist, you're by extension a bit of a nuclear physicist

i guess i should use that image(for meme purpuse) , the specialist i was talking about was that guy (image related)

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I guess that is a good way to describe him. Even though weed is no big deal to him and he is/was quite "sexually liberated". But I guess he was young in the 60s.

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>redditor pretending to be surprised about redditors

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Give me 3 good men!

No, Legasov just happened to study radiochemistry that's why.
Then this also

lad

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Oldguy who has worked in offices with and without women. Offices with women are noisier, there's more office politics/gossiping. Everything takes longer because women have to have a conversation about things rather than just doing them.