Does anyone else feel like the rewatch value of this show was destroyed due to how they botched the white walkers and Dany's endings? Every time you rewatch any scene with the night's watch you will know how shitty the whole story will end and how they are not a threat at all.
Dany scenes will also be a pain since you will know of her shit ending too.
I don't care.
Season 1-4 are still kino.
Gods episode 3 was shite. Thanks for reminding me.
Eh, I'm content with rewatching seasons 1-3.
basically. I'd be surprised if it did anything good for GRRM's book sales and (especially) HBO's spinoffs, longterm dvd/bluray sales or subscriptions.
D&D's career probably can't simply end, but there will definitely be repercussions both for them and the franchise. I doubt they'll have the same independence of decision-making again.
the fun part is they appear to have planned madDany from the outset (the dream sequence at the end of season 2 with the ash falling on the ruined red keep) just because it was a twist, and been 100% confident that it would work as well as the Red Wedding.
I think after the people defending Dany's decision rewatch the show, they will definitely change their viewpoint
The last episode was one of the best episodes of this show ever. You're all faggots.
Was thinking this exactly.
A shit ending can ruin ANY kino. Actually a shit second half
MadDany is a Kino idea. The execution is just so jewish
i recently rewatched s1 and it's still pretty comfy desu. granted i havent actually watched s7 or 8 because i couldn't endure dumb and dumbers fanfiction shit anymore
there's a mixture of two groups of people doing it.
The first are just in sunk cost fallacy mode: they need to show to not have been a complete waste of time, so they have to go "oh it does all lead to this".
The second are the kind of person who skips chapters of characters they don't like because "they're boring". They apply different standards to those characters than to, say, Eddard, Arya, Stannis, etc. They only log the things a character does if they align with their preconceived notions of the character.
If madDany had REALLY been foreshadowed properly, no one who thinks it was good would be as interested. It appeals because it's half-fanfiction, it's the kind of thing you can IMAGINE happening and being cool but only as long as the story is telling you Dany's actions are justified.
The thing to understand is that D&D were committed to madDany before ADWD came out: madDany is actually their baby. We know this because of the dream sequence in the Houses of the Undying with the ruined red keep and the shadow of drogon on the city. They simply misjudged what a good ending would be and then stuck to it: they (like madDanyfags) really thought the existing events of the story would be adequete foreshadowing for her murdering people at random.
>they (like madDanyfags) really thought the existing events of the story would be adequete foreshadowing for her murdering people at random.
Yeah, and they were. Or would have been at least, if the show wasn't racing to the finish line. The only issue with her characterisation is that it has been rushed to fall in line with ending the whole show in such a short amount of time.
you could spend a whole season setting up madDany, but the books haven't done that, because in the books Dany is actually more reasonable than in the show.
so the notion that GRRM is going to spend all of TWOW and half of ADOS setting up Dany being mad, when he already has the madCersei plotline well-established with a direct link to Aerys made by Jaime, is a fantasy.
Imagine people idolozing seasons 2 and 3 like everyone wasn't calling them shit when they came out
this is wrong
the end of DWD is Dany going "eh, fuck this learning to rule business, I'm just going to give them Fire and Blood". We're also shown from other POVs how catastrophic her decisions have really been. She's not going to turn into a cackling evil mad Villain, simply because that's not how Martin likes his characters, but she IS going to fuck things up and our other main characters are going to think she's mad and fight against her.
no, it isn't.
many other characters have executed people in the books: Eddard does it as part of his job. a large swathe of the fanbase of the books just applies a different standard depending on whether they like a character, it's totally straightforward. D&D happen to be as bad at judging art as you, that's all.
Dany's chapters in ADWD were meant to be contrasted with Cersei's in AFFC, GRRM admitted it was a downside of splitting the books.
Cersei is the bad queen in a situation where she has everything, Dany is a good queen in a bad situation (her ports were blockaded by the Yunkai from her 3rd adwd chapter, which contrasts with Cersei losing her whole fleet by bad appointment of who to put in charge of it)
D&D really just wrote their own arcs from GRRM's cliffnotes, NK doesn't even exist in the books, etc. pretty straightforward.
So, do you believe ASOIAF is about how war and conquer via dragonfire is justified when it's your birth right and you have good intentions? How exactly do you see her story ending?
AFFC and ADWD *REALLY* should have been split down the middle rather than by plotlines.
>multiple occasions of people teleporting hundreds of miles from the island of dragonstone to kinglanding when they don't even have ships
>The entirety of the Golden Company of 20,000 which is clearly only 1,000 due to standing in copy pasted 6*20 cgi blocks outside the safety of the castle walls was destroyed by the gate exploding
>dothraki shit on a stick swords actually are effective all of a sudden against armor
>a 10 year old dragon was able to cause more devastation than when there were multiple hundreds of year old dragons
>cersei's prophecy was completely forgotten
>literally 4 scorpion shots were fired at drogon the entire episode and not a single arrow
i hate you