Clinical psychologist Janina Scarlet says Game of Thrones has functioned as a kind of refuge for trauma survivors who were able to feel and establish a sense of connection with characters who endured suffering from physical disfigurement to the loss of multiple loved ones. So Khaleesi's heel turn is particularly troubling for fans who might have felt a true sense of connection to her character following her epic story arc, which has seen Dany escape some awful circumstances to literally walk through fire, free the slaves, bring Dragons to the north and help rally the troops to defeat the Night King. She has basically been Abraham Lincoln, Hercules and Winston Churchill combined into one person riding a dragon.
Scarlet uses the term "parasocial relationship" to describe the bond a fan might form with a fictional character or celebrity. >"Parasocial relationships can help fans to feel less alone in their mental health struggles, can inspire hope, and create a dialogue about trauma and recovery," Scarlet explained. "Seeing a person who came from an abusive childhood, experienced violence, assault and tragedy can inspire many other trauma survivors, especially"
'Scarlet is also a self-proclaimed geek, author and creator of Superhero Therapy, which integrates beloved characters from comics, science fiction, fantasy and video games into certain types of therapy. Scarlet, who's based in San Diego, works with clients to identify their own skills and strengths using characters like Veronica Mars, who has a talent for detective work, as role models.'
>"For many fans, especially women, who might identify with Daenerys in terms of being a survivor, this sudden change can be both confusing and emotionally distressing. Such story arc can appear to take away from agency that many trauma survivors may develop through parasocial relationships."
'Scarlet agreed with countless fans on social media -- and everybody watching in my household -- that the Mother of Dragons' slaughter of thousands at King's Landing doesn't exactly jibe with the image of Daenerys Targaryen we've become familiar with from the good old, chain-breaking days in Meereen and beyond.'
'She's also concerned the depiction of extreme violence against a multitude of unnamed characters in "The Bells" could trigger fans.' >"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff, especially when writing storylines dealing with trauma, shock, and horror in order to be conscientious about the potential effects the particular episode or scene may have on the viewers."
Easton Flores
Honking just became ringing
Matthew Martinez
Based psychologist BTFO'ing DnD.
John Butler
These people need to die off so humanity can progress.
Gabriel James
psychology is a fucking meme science
Adam Phillips
More proof that women would act exactly how Daenerys did, and if anything she showed restraint compared to the people who project themselves onto her
Parker Walker
>'She's also concerned the depiction of extreme violence against a multitude of unnamed characters in "The Bells" could trigger fans.'
Is television in general going to be banned because of snowflakes?
Nathaniel Miller
a "refuge for trauma survivors"
>>one of the most violent, bloody and traumatic shows on TV where the good guys are always fucked over and killed
kek
Jeremiah Brown
But can she explain why anons like her after 7 seasons of bullying?
Nicholas Jackson
PETERSONFAGS BTFO
YASSSS
Levi Scott
looking at pictures of women on twitter losing their shit has been so amazing it literally GAVE ME 10 MORE YEARS OF LIFE so I am sure I will live 90 or 100 years!
>OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE D&D bait and switched SJWs and showed them to be the mindless NPCs they are... in hilarious fashion.
The epitome of a woman... >can't lead without male advisors telling her what to do >gets rejected for sex, goes crazy >make freeing king's landing all about her >overly emotional >virtue signals to others but inside a heartless cunt >low IQ and controlled by feelings etc.
Instead of letting this issue divide us and liking how the latest episode 'triggered the libs xDDDD' why can't we all just agree that our hate for this awful fucking ending is a chance to bring everyone together.
Nicholas Perez
Now she has a personality
Adam Cox
I watched all of GoT and this bitch is making it up. Dany was always screwing up everything she did, she was not a Mary Sue or some feminine Superhero destined for a perfect ending AND IT'S GATE OF THRONES, NOTHING IS PERFECT.
Wyatt Williams
>It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff
hahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahah what a loser
Nathaniel Thompson
This is why women struggle to create great art.
Grayson Ortiz
>Superhero Therapy, which integrates beloved characters from comics, science fiction, fantasy and video games into certain types of therapy. fucking bugmen
Daniel Green
>Clinical psychologist They misspelled child.
Ethan Peterson
>>"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff, especially when writing storylines dealing with trauma, shock, and horror in order to be conscientious about the potential effects the particular episode or scene may have on the viewers." She says that as if authors D&D and Martin don't love fucking up their fans. Nothing like building up a character and have them take a tragic turn that rips out the hearts of your readers.
Shouldn't this be empowering though? Like, "Look, I came from a defeated past, but now I am a literal dragon god who can accomplish anything at any cost."
Gavin Johnson
But women are exactly like Daenerys. That's why they are so upset. Nobody likes to see their ugly projection turn evil. Liberal women want to allow hordes of brown people to come to our cities to rape and murder us. Liberalism will burn our cities to the ground. Millions of white children will die screaming. Being hit with this makes the uncomfortable
Hopefully the re-election of trump is finally enough to drive these people to mass suicide
Jason Cox
>the Mother of Dragons' slaughter of thousands at King's Landing doesn't exactly jibe with the image of Daenerys Targaryen we've become familiar with from the good old, chain-breaking days in Meereen and beyond
lol feminists can't admire or appreciate a flawed character, everyone has to be a Mary Sue
mass suicide?? hell no I want to see them suffer on tv and have nervous breakdowns. a few can kill themselves. the only bad thing is that our ENTERTAINMENT industry is led by these fuckers so they will pour all their politics into it like they have done with star wars, comics and video games
>it is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff
And there you have it, the modern racket. She's not suggesting this because she's an idiot, she's suggesting it to provide jobs for her failing work sector. Just like Diversity Consultants. Everyone wants a piece of the diversity pie.
Adam Perry
>this shows not allowed to make an edgy and shocking move because its become too popular Jesus christ
the obvious progression of this is that we get to a point where if writers make their characters behave in ways that upset viewers, the viewers are victims of abuse and have right to legal recourse against the creators, and potentially the characters (reparations from which would be supplied by the studio/network).
Christian Taylor
>show is chock-full of gratuitous murder, torture and rape that didn't even exist in the books >"ahem pls trigger warn this particular episode"
>Scarlet is also a self-proclaimed geek, author and creator of Superhero Therapy, which integrates beloved characters from comics, science fiction, fantasy and video games into certain types of therapy. Scarlet, who's based in San Diego, works with clients to identify their own skills and strengths using characters like Veronica Mars, who has a talent for detective work, as role models What. The. Fuck. Am I reading.
>she likes the genocidal, magic-supremacist, KKK-hat-wearing house lmao.
Hunter Kelly
Women were a mistake.
Hunter Lopez
It suddenly makes sense why they felt like Arya had to kill the Night King. They knew feminists were going to lose their shit over this Dany stuff and felt like they had to throw feminists a bone, hoping it would make up for it
Jose Perry
Danyfags btfo like anybody with a brain knew they'd be. Make way for the one true Queen of Westeros.
first psychology was used to separate religion from self help, and now psychology is being paired up with Marvel, Disney and other franchises. It's truly interesting to see how the city leftist professions like psychology will literally never go back to Logos, they will only descend further. I used to be a hardcore leftie, but I don't think the rest will ever awaken.
Noah Nguyen
How fucking selfish do you have to be to force a show that's for a general audience to cater to your own needs? Go watch a show that's about female empowerment. Nothing wrong with that. But the world doesn't revolve around you.
Luis Sanders
>woman >psychologist Two reasons not to believe a word this cunt says.
Caleb Butler
>take a morally grey show and use tropes and le current year trends to gradually steer the audience into picking and rooting for protagonists over the course of 5 years. >Make violence cool by framing it as Tarantino-esque expression of overcoming personal oppression. Yay strong Stark girls, murder your oppressors, feed Ramsey to the hounds, feed Frey's kids to him, slit Littlefinger's throat. Return the violence that has been wielded against you by your oppressors throughout the show. > Have the audience literally rooting for slaughter of the people who stood in the way of the subtly established protagonists, then given them a full dose of what they want. Force them to look at mothers and children being burned alive for 20 minutes, "good" Northern soldiers raping and murdering women, honorable and disciplined unsullied murdering surrendered prisoners. >Do much of this through the perspective of Jon and Arya who have been built up to be unstoppable badasses getting utterly crushed by the carnage around them. There's no going back to warrior or assassin from that. >You can't turn away. You've been self-inserting into these characters, contemplating things from their perspective, weighing their decisions against your moral compass. You're a feminist, Dany's a Strong Woman in a world of cruel men who goes over the line (BECUZ ITS REALISTIC) but tries to be just. You're conditioned to support her >People snap, cancel Dany, screech about white men, do ANYTHING not to feel disgusted with themselves and being tricked into letting their worst instincts take over. But ultimately the lesson that War is Hell even if you think you're on the side of the angels will seep in. Which really is what the entire series is about for better or worse.
Given the cultural saturation of GoT, is this the greatest subversive mindfuck ever pulled? Not Rian Johnson le Epic SpaceBear subversion, but legitimate Michael Haneke fool the audience into hating itself hypnosis level mental meltdown.
Carter Bell
The only people posting the 'HAA TRIGGERED LIBZ HUR' posts are shitposters. Virtually everyone agrees that this season is fucking horrible
Carter Kelly
this
Wyatt Bailey
I'm genuinely worried about the infantilization of adults in 1st world countries
Justin Moore
tl;dr
got fans are literal retards
Blake Watson
You both obviously want to fuck your mothers
Caleb Thomas
>is this the greatest subversive mindfuck ever pulled Only if you're a literal retard who didn't read the very not-subtle hints of the past several years that were leading up to Dany wanting revenge on the people who killed her family.
Easton Collins
>she unironically never realized that GoT was set-up to be a tragedy bittersweet ending my ass. there's no coming back from the abysss for dany.
Anthony Butler
>that the Mother of Dragons' slaughter of thousands at King's Landing doesn't exactly jibe with the image of Daenerys Targaryen we've become familiar with Have these idiots ignored the past three seasons of the show? What the fuck are they talking about
They already showed us northerners are unhonorable rapist murderers in the last episode so meh.
Dylan Gonzalez
Highschool education forces you to consider all works of fiction as sets of themes, symbolts, and representations. Nothing is just "a character doing character things", it always symbolizes broader elements or is an allegory for something greater.
That, and people unhealthily identify with characters "literally me omg" so a character doing anything that isnt pure power fantasy feels like an attack on everyone that worships it.
What the actual fuck is a 'french door refrigerator'?
Jonathan Campbell
This. Problem is too much media is just voyeuristic power fantasy so the plebs go crazy when it doesn't go that way.
Jaxon Ramirez
>It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider hiring someone with my specific degrees and qualifications Just can't fucking help themselves, can they?
Tyler King
>northerners are unhonorable rapist murderers in the last episode so meh With Sansa on the throne they wouldn't dare. Dany lets her people run wild like disgusting animals, Sansa will install order and morals, like her father did.
>but legitimate Michael Haneke fool the audience into hating itself hypnosis level mental meltdown
It would have been a fucking masterpiece of performance art if it had been done on purpose, but we all know D&D's writing skills or artistic integrity are up to the task. Jon's an Arya's nerfing from superhero-esque back to normal people were done only because it suited the plot, and Dany's actions were written that way only so that they could shock the audience (they've expressed numerous times that they are dumb fucks who think they are clever and like to shock people with unexpected moments) rather than because they want to showcase a morally gray lesson to the audience via a bait-and-switch.
>People trying to sue D&D forces HBO into bankruptcy, but not before they finally fucking finish Deadwood Please, I can only get so erect.
Landon Davis
Based Dany killing the plebs. Reminder that those were the plebs who slut shamed Cersei.
Christian Ortiz
Look at how many people are freaking out lol. It's clear it worked insanely well even if you were too smrt for it
Connor Powell
not really, qualitative data is still data
Nolan Jones
Yes, themes, symbols, representations. But no one seems to look past "is MY group being attacked?", "can *I* victimize over this?"
Oliver Barnes
>"parasocial" relationship I think they mean parasitic
Jeremiah Morgan
>Her views on them are still idealistic. John needs to order decimation to discipline them but I'm not sure he has it in him.
Everyone was afraid of Stannis sacking the city and he is the sternest of disciplinarians. You can't control the soldiers during a sack. Command and control becomes next to impossible once the soldiers spread into the city and are angry about having to breach the walls. Not even Stannis would be able to stop it. Traditionally, a sack would last three days if the town refused to surrender and the attackers had to breach the walls.
Jordan Gomez
>the only good episode in the season >psychologists literally condemn it
Jace Sanchez
That or imaginary.
Carson Turner
Meh, much of Star Wars fell into place by accident as well. In a way the fact that prior sloppiness reinforces the effect makes it better. If Arya didn't become Mary Sue Ninja Wonder Girl her getting demolished into a scared little girl by the full on horrors of war wouldn't be as effective. Killing the night king vs watching women and children next to you get napalmed made for a great juxtaposition of self insert action figure hero fantasy and reality of war.
It probably followed GRRM's outline, he's very much about turning fantasy archetypes on their heads so people think about what's happening to all the commoners that get glossed over. And DnD may not be the greatest but they're not idiots, there's no way they did the most on the nose GRRM thing they could (here's what it looks like when your "bad guys" get destroyed by the "good guys" up close, enjoy the show) by accident.
Asher Reyes
respect. she mastered fighting on fucking dragons. she was always incompetent on dragons. this was legendary.
Logan Taylor
This is what women do, user. Have you never heard one of them, when hearing a song on the radio, say "this is my song"? Now, you may think they mean it in a general sense, but they actually mean it literally. Women who have nothing in life but the entertainment they consume, childless emcels for instance, are especially prone to this behavior.
Justin Sanchez
nice take
Lucas Turner
she's trying to create an epoch. she must have unquestioned power and dominance. pax americana resulted from hiroshima and nagasaki. that is how the world works. they have to know you will kill anybody and anything at any time.
face it, heathen. mankind needs a god. dany knew this all along. by instinct.
Carter Wilson
>...women are just WaY ToO EmOtIoNaL to be leaders! imagine not being able to understand why this is fucking hilarious
Is fiction really supposed to be about messages now? Why can't people just create fucking stories. Jesus fucking Christ. I fucking hate these people. Nothing makes them happy.
Camden Clark
Destroying everything you love makes them happy
Hudson Miller
Best episode of the past few seasons. I thought the show had gone to shit after all the sjw predictable crap then they pull this! Epic, it’s what I always liked about the show from the beginning the gritty rawness of it how things can just change all of a sudden and your favourite characters are either dead or now the bad guys
Christopher Morales
>"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff, especially when writing storylines dealing with trauma, shock, and horror in order to be conscientious about the potential effects the particular episode or scene may have on the viewers" And once Tv and movies are "fixed", what's next? Books? Are they going to start burning books again? I never thought I'd see shit like that in my lifetime. Fucking lunatics.
John Reed
>show known for senseless slaughter, rape, vulgarity, brutal murder and anime plot armor >refuge for damaged people
But Abraham Lincoln didn't free the slaves because he wanted them to be free citizens. He wanted to ship them back to Africa and have nothing further to do with them. Then he got assassinated.
Ethan Ramirez
>When it's not the handsome white guy but the dopey hotwheels and white girl who are the rulers
Those common folk all cheered when Ned's head came off. They celebrated Robb getting murdered. They sat in the comfortable South while the Northerners held off a zombie army.
Fuck King's Landing and fuck the Lannisters. The North Remembers
Ian Thomas
I am convinced that out world is a parody of another, more sensible world. Embrace the absurd, anons.
Aaron Gonzalez
good take
d&d isnt intellectually capable of this though
Eli Richardson
rage ate a pizza///// HAAHHAH no wonder these sjw cunts are always fat. i will have her raped by my dothraki blood riders
Nathan Allen
did anyone tweet her "have sex" yet?
Elijah Long
>IN THIS CURRENT YEAR OF ALL CURRENT YEARS!
Liam Reyes
'Fat'.
Charles King
Let me guess she called the fans a bunch of incel racist, Islamaphobes?
Colton Moore
Now we get GOT and capeshit in our psychology.
A clown world indeed...
Ryan Morris
>It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff,
Just fucking ban TV then.
Jesus I feel like im back at primary school being around modern "adults"
Brody Miller
>Danyfags btfo like anybody with a brain knew they'd be. Make way for the one true Queen of Westeros. It's Bran.
Jeremiah Myers
Buckle up, people are only going to get more autistic at this rate.
Connor Stewart
If Bran gets throne and not Sansa SJW are going to riot.
It's would be glorious.
Chase Ortiz
>woman wants to bog down the creation of art with a bunch of bureaucratic nonsense Imagine my shock
Alexander Reed
leftism
Jace Morales
Didn't she fail at restraint a ton? Didn't she have to be reminded of restraint more often than naturally picking the right choice? Didn't she also lose an army, two dragons, her best friend, her best guy friend, all for people who don't give a single shit about her?
Why is it so hard to understand that a person would snap?
Cooper Davis
Have sex.
Leo Perez
>self-proclaimed geek in other words, attention whore
Isaiah Price
>If Bran gets throne and not Sansa SJW are going to riot. He is. The leaks are 100% accurate up to this point, so salt prices are going to crash next Sunday.
Elijah Harris
this guy was the polar opposite of a larry stu, though... the first season was almost impossible to watch because of him (just my opinion, I know tons of people love this show, and I can understand why)
Colton Murphy
She is supposed to be a psychologist, yet she is not addressing the fact that viewers not being able to separate fiction from reality is unhealthy.
also
>people relate to fictional characters
More news at 11.
Nolan Perez
>She is supposed to be a psychologist, yet she is not addressing the fact that viewers not being able to separate fiction from reality is unhealthy. She literally incorporates that shit into her therapy, even though most fictional characters aren't very realistic by design.
Levi Barnes
>I just rage-ate an entire pizza to prove my point. I hope you learned your lesson.
this is satire. it has to be.
Carson Rivera
Absolutely not. It's just been severely degraded by degenerate liberals (like all things).
Owen Stewart
I saw that leak too, and I just cannot understand how or why anyone would choose Bran. It's completely fucking out of left field. We* the viewers know Bran's story, but only a select others, and especially not the regular people
Zachary Clark
just because shes a psychologist doesnt mean shes a not a dumb cunt, she probably watched the show with phone in her hand and not paying attention lmao
Jaxon Cooper
These people are going to drop dead in 2020 when Trump wins reelection.
Tyler Bailey
How long before these psychopaths truly run amok, lads? Is there enough time to go stock up at the grocery store?
>believing in generationalist bullshit >like every retard who gets old has done before them >thousands of years of civilization >i seriously...
David Ortiz
If the commoners don't really give a shit, then the support of the lords is the only thing that matters.
And since the only intact houses are all in the North...
Nicholas Lee
I completely understand. Few times in media does a TV show respond to a certain audience as heavily as Game of Thrones. Yesterday, I felt betrayed. Hurt. And almost made me want to give up on the show (but this would mean giving up 10 years of my lives)
The first season came around my Junior year of High School, and has shaped the way I viewed media as a young student to a college graduate I am today. My girlfriend feels the same way as I do. We actually started watching Big Little Lies instead, because Game Of Thrones is just that emotionally draining.
Jace Robinson
All these damaged, fragile, fucked up little bitches. Why Game of Thrones? Why expect ANY kind of happy ending from this of all series?
Jackson Thompson
You're pretty dumb.
James Gutierrez
>Game Of Thrones is just that emotionally draining No shit. That's the point
Zachary Lee
>angry because a fictional character did something you don't like
how far can the clown train go
Brandon Collins
Don't have to stock up. They're self destructive. Their rage is impotent and internal. It's not like they're capable of organization or effective action. They just scream on social media and rage eat pizzas.
Eli James
>My depression is a patriarchal, oppressive abuser.
I'm also a clinical psychologist and everything she said is bullshit, a giant amount.
Cooper Barnes
dumb bitch hercules murdered his wife and children he never has been any form of hero to those who know better/didnt learn of hercules through a disney cartoon
Brayden Nguyen
>rage eat pizzas Mostly ice cream and chocolates.
Jason Thompson
they're obsessed with control to the point even fiction has to be according to their whims.
Adrian Adams
Back to plebbit you insufferable faggot.
Nicholas Cook
based and redpilled
Thomas Wood
maybe you don't have access to the same pamphlets she does
Alexander Campbell
>twatwaffle >asshattery what other curse words do redditors use?
Matthew Hernandez
you realize the "frankfurt school" conspiracy(and those other conspiracies like it e.g. the illuminati) is a tool zionists use to identify anti-zionists and then coalesce them into groups that then support anti-zionist movements that are actually zionist fronts, right?
This whole time you thought you were working against zionism, you've been playing into their hand the entire time.That's why I just mail my checks to Tel Aviv and save myself the trouble. Because, why would Zionists make the most obviously zionist nation actually be zionist? Therefore, it's actually Anti-Zionist. u retard lmaoo
Matthew Johnson
Was it fahrenheit 451 where they had thehj TV shows where you voted on what happened, sounds like that's the way they want things, literal fanfiction
Jonathan Morgan
you're right, we got 50 years left, tops
Aiden Butler
based
Caleb Gutierrez
Anyone who is not a child who wears a graphic tee gets the rope
Luke Evans
Daenerys in the biggest special snowflake in the series, that gets away with some serious bullshit because of her plot armor. It's not surprising that other special snowflakes get triggered seeing her getting owned by reality she's unprepared to face and losing her shit. Dany is actually a perfect metaphor of today's American youth.
>Misandry dies because of misogyny It's like poetry.
Alexander Morales
>chain-breaking days in Meereen
Daenerys "Kill All The Masters" Targaryen
Jaxon Long
>establish a sense of connection with characters who endured suffering from physical disfigurement hey now maisie cant help it
Jason Gutierrez
fiction is not reality, it will never be a 1:1 and it isn't meant to be.
It's perfectly normal to relate to characters, but you have to realize they are not real and that you shouldn't be taking it so personally if something bad happens to the character.
Of course it upsets you personally if you really relate to the character and grow to care about them, but it's just a fictional character and I highly doubt the author wrote it just to specifically piss you off like they know you personally.
I think there is a conversation that could be had about why an author decides to make certain decisions and how that could relate to misogyny, but just assuming is ridiculous. And even if he was a misogynist cunt, who gives a fuck? It's a fucking tv show. You are in far more trouble about the fact that you are looking at fictional stories to tell you how to live your life.
This is really prevalent now and it's honestly concerning to me. So many people are taking fiction so seriously and it's honestly hurting literature and art. I don't like it at all, but what to do about it?
Brayden Baker
Are they just bots? wtf?
Daniel Roberts
I'm in the medical field (RN) and one of the many things I've learned is that the HCPs that go on TV to give a medical diagnose on someone or people involved with some hot topic are usually shitty hacks trying to make a quick buck and fame. Diagnosing someone takes a lot of assessments, history taking, and testing to accurately do. For her to imply that the majority of the fan fury comes from some sort of refugee for mental trauma... without even sitting down 1-on-1 with a lot of these people... Jesus Christ, what a hack.
Can't it just be simply that like with a lot of beloved characters; many people invest a lot of time and interest in these characters' stories and they want said characters to act in the established ways they approve of as well as have stories they find acceptable? Why the fuck does she need to hamfist the victim complex into this?
>not really, qualitative data is still data It literally isn't. It just muh feels and interpretation at that point and Literary studies tier
Angel Perez
>Scarlet agreed with countless fans on social media -- and everybody watching in my household -- that the Mother of Dragons' slaughter of thousands at King's Landing doesn't exactly jibe with the image of Daenerys Targaryen we've become familiar with from the good old, chain-breaking days in Meereen and beyond.'
I'm not even in the medical field and every time I see a "professional psychologist" show up on tv to give an opinion, I know they are a certified sellout and hack. It's just common sense that you can't diagnose someone unless knowing A LOT of things because every situation/person is different.
Noah Lopez
>pay a shrink to treat you >proceed to tell you to watch a tv show Clown world
Aaron Torres
How fucking entitled do you have to be to think that a project should bend over trying to appease to the way you see the world?
Lucas Edwards
>It's just common sense
Apparently it's not because this shit keeps happening and seems to get enough attention to promote it to continue to happen.
Eli Moore
Psychology is the practical study of human behavior and not a "meme" in any way. Often people refer to psychiatry and the pseudoscience Freud and Jung popularized as "psychology" but that just shows ignorance on their part.
David Gray
>Psychologists are now talking about parasocial relationships as a good thing Every day we stray further from God’s light
Showfags can burn in their own feces I don't give a fuck, only a brainlet would predict "game of thrones" would have a happy ending that didn't include the entire cast dying or succumbing to what everyone does. This episode has the same consistency with the rest of the season I don't think anyone doubts that.
Nolan Hill
This episode just keeps getting better and better. All hail Queen of Fire.
Jace Rodriguez
>mops floors in a hospital >claims to be in the medical field
Gavin Wright
>really says a lot Yeah, it says everyone - yourself excluded - realizes how irrational your attachment to the character is.
Lucas Howard
>and seems to get enough attention
This might blow your mind, but a lot of what you see on tv or social media is overblown to be made out to be a big deal when most of the actual world who doesn't live on social media/glued to the tv/computer give zero fucks.
I just gave you an example with myself. I watch that shit too, but I know it's fake and dumb as shit. Are you just assuming everyone who watches that stuff can't see through the bullshit?
Tyler Clark
>whites can't help people
Josiah Collins
No fuck off. This episode was the least bad one since season 5. These people hate the show for the wrong reasons ans they’re still why it went to shit to begin with
Asher Jones
its just a fucking tv show holy fuck
do these people literally have no lifes outside of complaining about shit
>>the Mother of Dragons' slaughter of thousands at King's Landing doesn't exactly jibe with the image of Daenerys Targaryen we've become familiar with from the good old, chain-breaking days in Meereen and beyond It really isn't the same as when she killed everyone in Qarth and Mereen
Michael Howard
A psychologist doling out escapism.... what could go wrong?
Nicholas Anderson
>do these people literally have no lifes
Probably. They also just want attention, and social media is like an instant way to get attention or "validation" if you tweet stupid enough or recently "woke enough" stuff.
I'm convinced at least 50% of people who get so "outraged" on social media don't actually care and are only doing it for clicks. I've seen numerous isolated cases of people moving onto something a day or week later when the last week they were acting like they were going to die about their previous obsession.
Carter Powell
>this misogynist show based on misogynist books that has been on for 8 misogynist seasons did a thing that triggered me, so I'd like to welcome y'all to my TED talk.
>Abraham Lincoln, Hercules and Winston Churchill combined into one person And then she went and did what Churchill did, so what’s the problem?
Cooper Butler
This type of internet hyperbole extends beyond TV shows and entertainment. It whips up a whirlwind of fear and paranoia that leads to doxing, lawsuits and even real life physical violence. Cyberbullying and death threats most times are taken with a grain of salt. But cyberstalking and defamation have quite literally led to job loss and all kinds of other misery. These petty squabbles on social media tend to snowball when left unchecked, and big corporations do their best to enable this attitude for clicks and likes, rather than aim to keep the peace. Journalists even more so. It's all a mess, and it will get worse as long as people like you continue to pretend it doesn't exist.
Joseph Allen
>degraded Mate, remember Freud It was a poisoned well from the get-go.
Lincoln Wright
They latch onto whatever is popular like parasites and try to feed off the attention.
Christian Rodriguez
>durr this fearmongering is bad! >proceeds to fearmonger
Most of the extreme cases like doxxing you talk about are still pretty rare and it's pretty tame to me considering how many fucking people are on the internet that only a small percentage are actually engaging in this behavior publicly.
Humans are fucked up and will hurt others. More news at 11.
I hope they eat each other. I don't have to worry about it because I'm not a fucking brainlet like you who posts on or worries about social media. Like, just don't post on twitter dumb bitch.
Ethan Flores
Don't guys, especially white guys, have parasocial relationships with comic book superheroes, at least before they started becoming SJW superheroes?
Jack Flores
I'm going to stop listening to any further crap that's going to come out in regards to the Zionists. They may be Zionists, but they're not Zionists for religious reasons. They cannot support any organization like that. Just because there might be a faction who supports Zionism, doesn't mean they don't have an agenda. They could be pushing a similar agenda in regards to Islam, but I refuse to believe the religious side is pushing that agenda.
Luis Howard
Amen
Easton Walker
The sad part is that she's completely right. Martin is a talentless hack.
Jace Green
When that ignorance is practiced on multiple large universities, you can't really keep using the excuse.
>not a "meme" in any way. Replication crisis Also, where are ANY actual verifiable models of literally anything? Imagine physics being on the same level psych is today. It would be calling lightning a "Tesla-Edison Flash Phenomenon" and produce countless papers on how the phenomenon MAYBE might happen, sometimes. Somehow. For not sure what reasons and can't actually measure to what extent. But hey, we've observed it and gave it a fancy name so it's Science(TM)!
Dylan Green
Why do I find reactions of guys in Burlington bar videos so unnatural and weird?
>dude literally giving the middle finger to on-screen characters >mouth wide open during scenes >weird fucking gesticulations all the time
I know that they know they're being filmed, so there's that. But still, I feel like there's something else wrong with them beside being turbo-hipsters.
Adam Hill
Freudian "psychology" isn't taught seriously in any reputable universities. Give it up. Television is not reality.
Carter Ramirez
behaviorism has literally a century of experimental demonstrations of functional relations.
Xavier White
This has to be a meme account like Titania McGrath
social psychology, sure but no one actually listens to that shit. other branches of psych aren't invested in trying to push weirdo agendas in the way social psychology is
Kayden Price
> 'Scarlet is also a self-proclaimed geek, author and creator of Superhero Therapy, which integrates beloved characters from comics, science fiction, fantasy and video games into certain types of therapy.
jesus fucking christ
Ayden Barnes
how fucking weak are these people?
Kayden Reed
>GOT is a mental playground for nutjobs
Sounds about right
Christian Cook
in all the handwringing and clickbait articles over the last 24 hours, has anyone provided any sort of clinical explanation as to what exactly made Dany look so fucking hot during the bell ringing scene?
Austin Garcia
And its completely ignored in favor of pseudoscience.
Jeremiah Thomas
Jordan Peterson was literally professor psychology in harvard and he literally don't know anything (even foucault or subjects on psychiatry) except Jung. What the fuck are you talking about
Luis Miller
just like physics, biology, astronomy, and math
Jordan Davis
These people have pozzed their own souls out of existence.
Of course next to Freud anyone, even Jung seems like a genius. Historically relevant at least.
Wyatt Gonzalez
>multiple rapes >a show where a prostitute gets bludgeoned to death with a chair leg >a guy gets his eyes gouged out >a child gets nailed to a wall >a child gets burned alive >a child gets thrown out a window >a child gets poisoned >someone is left to die in a dungeon >someone is flayed alive >someone is eaten by dogs >someone stripped naked and sexually assaulted >hundreds of people get blown up >hundreds of people get crucified A "REFUGE". This proves the trigger shit is complete b/s and only happens when its something they hate
>my boyfriend had sex with me once when i wasn't in the mood which made me feel powerless and worthless for a decade until i "met" dany who had the same thing happen with drogo but she became the messiah as a result and it makes me feel special like the messiah too because i'm literally dany
Noah Kelly
>pre 2019 >make shit writing >claim you're racist if you say it's shitty
>2019 >make shit writing >you're a cuck and sjw if you say it's shitty
Truly the biggest subversion
Tyler Evans
Imagine western art & entertainment if these people get their way.
Matthew Cook
Haters can hate, but I still believe in Sigmund.
Everyone might say he's a joke, but he has an explanation for why contemporary slang is obsessed with the word "ass," for example; it's because most people never get past what he identified as the anal stage of child psychological development.
need more twitter screencaps. I also want to increase my lifespan like that other user
Wyatt Torres
>"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff, especially when writing storylines dealing with trauma, shock, and horror in order to be conscientious about the potential effects the particular episode or scene may have on the viewers."
BTFOing sjw always puts you on /tvpol/s good side.
Jayden Rogers
the entirety of modern intelligentsia is just one massive fucking circle jerk
Ryder Bell
that's like 25% of psychology. other shit like perception and cognition and neuroscience is very rigorous.
Leo Miller
>hundreds people get crushed under cars >hundreds people get shot and killed by guns >hundreds people get burned alive by the fire in their houses >several people have been burned alive at the stake >a man is forced to watch his wife and children tortured >a man has sex with his sister >a man has to lick a corpse >many people die from hunger >a woman is stoned to death by the authorities >hundreds of people get beaten to death by their families >a thousand people are thrown into jail and burned in effigies >a dozen people are stabbed to death >a hundred thousand people burn and loot houses at night >hundreds starve >200 people are shot dead by armed forces >a number of women are raped by local tribesmen >a woman is executed by religious authorities >a huge fire destroys the market of a large city >hundreds of Christians are massacred in the name of Islam >200 people get killed by Muslims in the name of Islam
Parker Young
we're going full steam into the dark ages of cinema and filmmaking boys
Jaxon Price
Gee, I wonder who in particular she wants these people to hire as their consultant. This kind of blatant self promotion is embarrassing.
Ryder Kelly
>he doesn't want to btfo sjw What a fucking cuck you are, holy shit, piss off back to plebbit.
Every major blockbuster or tv series from now its gonna be like the MCU, basically so shallow and inoffensive and packaged for a generation of children who can't separate fiction from reality.
Xavier Barnes
nice
William Davis
More like 99%. Neuromeme has potential but it's mostly bullshit currently and has little to no application in current practices outside pharmacology and even less in clinical psychology
Dominic Jenkins
>>too smrt for it >baseline intelligence and comprehension of story >this means DnD are epic performance artists or some shit you have to go back
Bentley Bell
This guy gets it. It's the same shit as the Apu controversy on a larger scale. When the guy who did the documentary says it should be an Indian voicing him, what he means is it should be him
Bentley Gomez
ah ok so you have literally no idea what you're talking about
Ryan Mitchell
You know it is not 25% when one of the most authoritative person in social psychology admits meta analysis is one total bullshit
Chase Cox
no u
Hunter Lee
ahahah how HIGH do you even have TO BE to even write something like that?
Josiah Barnes
>go with handsome white guy who was "born right"
Completely ignoring the fact that her womyn hero his born as "fire resistant, powerful beasts falling into your lap because of vagina" person
Matthew Martin
One of my majors in college was a "studies" degree. I wish I could drag the profs and admins who prop that shit up out into the street and shoot them in the head on a livestream.
>Liked GoT all the way up until now >Thinks show-Dany was a good, well-built character who made sense up until now >Thinks her opinion on what constitutes "Good storytelling" is even remotely valid L O L
Evan Long
I think Freud's work says a lot more about Freud than it does about the human condition.
Ethan Richardson
>social psychology, sure but no one actually listens to that shit. ... >Scarlet uses the term "parasocial relationship" >trauma survivors may develop through parasocial relationships
>look at the term "parasocial relationship" >literally made by two sociologists >only concerns in social psychology
They hate seeing their nature being exposed as anything other than perfect and worthy of everyone bending over to praise them.
Samuel Myers
>There will no doubt be a lot of ink spilled over this development as fans and critics digest what may very well be the final major twist in a television show a decade in the making and 25 years in the writing. In the end, author George R.R. Martin’s story is in part that of a woman who spent her entire life training and studying to one day become the leader of Westeros, only to become someone the country’s elites deem “too dangerous” to be allowed to take power. It looks increasingly likely that the savior of the country will be a man who knows almost nothing about ruling it. Even knowing this is based on an ending Martin had plotted out decades ago, the shades of the 2016 election are too hard to ignore.
>The “A Song of Ice and Fire” novels and the “Game of Thrones” adaptation both appeal in part because of their anti-patriarchal themes. But the idea that toxic masculinity hurts everyone has always existed in contrast to a production and writing team comprised almost exclusively of white men. (The show has had an all-male writing and directing team from season five onward.)
>Unlike in the show, the novels describes many of the biggest surprises from the character’s viewpoint. In this first-person perspective, the events make more sense. Ned believes the world is honorable. Catelyn and Robb believe their allies have their backs. Losing that connection is a mistake. Daenerys would almost certainly have been better served by being able to narrate her own thought process ahead of her apparent moment of madness. Instead, bells rang and a woman who had been hanging by a thread, driven to the brink by a patriarchy that does not want her, snapped.
NBC news.
Brody Ross
>And once Tv and movies are "fixed", what's next? Books?
Your brain.
Oliver Scott
RN's officially on blast
Jayden Reyes
>Jungs ideas are actually pretty well rooted in evolution theory
So basically they are bunk to start with.
The best thing that can be said about Jungian psychology is that it is only slightly damaging when used to treat psychological disorders, unlike Freudian psychoanalysis, which is terribly damaging.
Jayden Moore
Is this one of those kino episodes that only men can understand?
Daniel Evans
>power fantasy the show has never been a power fantasy do these retards even watch the show? almost every powerful character has died
John Williams
clown world indeed it never ceases to be jarring no matter how much I think I've come to terms with "the new normal"
Landon Evans
Underrated
Brandon Fisher
>Psychology is the practical study of human behavior and not a "meme" in any way. LOL Friendly reminder that serious, reputable universities had "Parapsychology" departments all the way up to the 1980. LIterally studying ESP, reincarnation and astral-projection as though they were a real and relevant aspect of Psychology. The dicipline isn't even close to being reformed into a proper science.
Nathan Martin
too bad none of that character development means shit once reality ensues, she realizes Westeros gives no fucks about "stronk wite womyn freeing the exploited brown people," and those incest genes start kicking in
ring ring
Christopher Carter
>leftists crying for muh wiminz model What part of Daenerys snapping and torching KL is due to her being a woman ? She's been betrayed, rejected and turning paranoid. Just like her old man, incidentally.
Jesus, do these people think with their vaginas or what?
Kevin Brown
Not saying he was a scientist but at least he looked at science and drew conclusions from that which is pretty much the only thing you can do when it comes to the human psyche.
Jack Smith
Honestly she's not wrong
Evan Bell
>a caricature of a white racist kills le innocent black man >just ignore this goyim!
Xavier Russell
Its tribalism.
A woman on screen represents ALL women.
Tyler Edwards
That screenshot shows exactly why Martin is quite talented, he;s only talentless if you're female
Christian Nguyen
That's correct, psychology only really started to emerge as a real science in the 70's through 90's. However only the projects that focused on real life observations produced results.
David Bennett
god i love the onions boy meme
Xavier Lee
>a woman who spent her entire life training and studying to one day become the leader of Westeros lmao the only thing she did was get raped by a biker and ask men for help in what season does she join politic science college?
Caleb Bailey
>t. C- stem student who's "really good at pattern recognition"
Ryan Carter
She is wrong if she seeks mysogyny in a story thats whole premise is exploring moral relativism.
Ryder Brown
Penis envy explains this latest era of feminism to a tee.
Jack Hill
Really want to see all the traitors executed next episode.
Execute Brann Execute Sam and his kid (to finish his bloodline) Execute John Execute Sansa Execute Arya Burn the northern armies and lay waste to Winterfell for their leaders treachery Execute Tyrion
Live happily ever after
Luis Wright
psychiatry is the science of physiological phenomena that can be demonstrated and proven
psychology is the fluffy pseudoscience where people get ripped off to talk about muh feels
Samuel Sullivan
just turn the tv off
jesus fucking christ
Caleb Garcia
She was always a heel. She's killed people just for calling her names. And she insulted them until they said they'd punish her and only then when she had the result she wanted did she kill them to justify her insults and behavior. She doesn't care about anyone but herself and what she thinks she's owed.
Carter Richardson
make sure to tune in sunday you wouldn't want to miss Dany getting penetrated by Jon on last time
Jaxon Jackson
Separating the study of the human mind from its occult roots in the first place was a mistake. Indeed psychology should be thought of as "spirit science".
Luke Ortiz
Lmao people actually pay this quack for this psycho babble bs I hate (psychology)
Cameron Foster
pfffffft
Dominic Mitchell
Did you just type that out and think "yep that sounds smart". Well I have news for you buddy, it sounds absolutely fucking retarded.
wow, just imagine if this were a matter of opinions, your post might actually have some value!
Ryder Sanchez
Psycholgists and psychartrists are hacks and pseudo-intellectuals which has been proven by a german con artist.(postman who larped as the chief psychatric of a clinic for 10 years)
Jordan Cooper
At least this one has read the books. A lot of journos acted as if this episode pissed on GRRM's 'heroine' when they've clearly read nothing. Yes she's better written, but Daenerys is clearly being set up to be insane in ASOIAF
It's the same when these retards were angry about the Jaime-Cersei or Sansa-Ramsay rape. If the show is 'misogynistic', so are the books. And actually there are tons of rape scenes in the books that aren't in the show
Samuel Gutierrez
Are you fucking retarded? When exactly was psychology "Pure and untainted" by liberals? Before the 80s when reading fucking tea-leaves and speaking to ghosts was still considered to be a proper aspect of Psychology?
Brody Watson
>best argument you can come up with is "u r dum"
James Hughes
Unearned Power Single Mother of non biological dragons An honorable man bending the knee to you and loves you
but who was become hysteric lunatic?
Hudson Bennett
>"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff"
I bet roasties are complaining about 100 of hours of emotional labor invested only to get back stabbed.
Are they going to sue HBO and Rape Rape Martin?
Is this emotional assault? Is this actual rape?
Roasties BTFO eternally
Jeremiah Torres
I am not aware of who that is.
Thomas Anderson
I like to think that I am easily far better than this woman for not going on Twitter and complaining about my worldview not being applied onto fiction for likes and retweets.
Carter Morgan
>bemoans stereotypes about hysteria >proceeds to display hysteria over a tv show
Tyler Wilson
>You can't control the soldiers during a sack. Command and control becomes next to impossible once the soldiers spread into the city and are angry about having to breach the walls. That's why you need good officers, to keep man in line everytime
This Book Dany is someone who means well but who rules entirely based on her emotions, to disastrous consequences, everything she touches falls apart because she doesn't really know what she's doing. All she needs is enough pushing for those emotions to turn grim and there's no limit to the attrocities she'll commit.
Carter Long
it's exactly the fucking same, she was a psycho from the start, she just got aimed at people that a modern viewer would see as terrible, thereby giving a false sense of heroism
Gavin Peterson
>>"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff, especially when writing storylines dealing with trauma, shock, and horror in order to be conscientious about the potential effects the particular episode or scene may have on the viewers." It legitimately scares me that this viewpoint could possibly become popular in our clownworld society. This is how you kill entertainment media.
Connor Moore
>Scarlet is also a self-proclaimed geek
Cooper Morris
A wacko who runs a Youtube channel called "Spirit Science" where he talks about chakras, speaking to extra-dimensional gods with telepathy and jews being from space.
Charles Gonzalez
>When exactly was psychology "Pure and untainted" by liberals? When it was still called alchemy.
Justin Foster
In what possible way is alchemy the predecesor to Psychology?
Tyler Ross
>hours of emotional labor I hope someday we get to see the professors who made this shit up get massacred in the streets
Owen Adams
So... kinda what Dany did in the episode. And they still claim it didn´t fit her character ":D"
Xavier Morris
Reminder that psychology is a meme field with weak scientific basis
Lincoln Reyes
>She has basically been Abraham Lincoln, Hercules and Winston Churchill combined into one person riding a dragon.
>Even knowing this is based on an ending Martin had plotted out decades ago, the shades of the 2016 election are too hard to ignore. >the shades of the 2016 election are too hard to ignore.
Why. Why is everything about orange man bad. Why does it need to be tied to that. It has nothing to do wit-
>woman who spent her entire life training and studying to one day become the leader of Westeros, only to become someone the country’s elites deem “too dangerous” to be allowed to take power. It looks increasingly likely that the savior of the country will be a man who knows almost nothing about ruling it.
IT WAS HER TURN
Jesus H. Christ, these people are actually fucked in the head
Hunter Allen
At its core alchemy is the study of human soul and psyche. The proto-chemistry aspect of alchemy makes lots of people get the wrong idea about it but it's a spiritual tradition first and foremost with the ultimate goal of perfecting the human soul.
Jordan James
>Oh really? No one's ever really gone? Has anyone really been, if you think about it, far even as decided to use? Even go want to do look more like, for that matter
>The “A Song of Ice and Fire” novels and the “Game of Thrones” adaptation both appeal in part because of their anti-patriarchal themes. But the idea that toxic masculinity hurts everyone has always existed in contrast to a production and writing team comprised almost exclusively of white men.
>these "people" actually believe the solution to patriachy would be a female Dictator.
Jason Lee
>>"It is my hope that in the future, writers of television and films will consider having cultural and/or mental health consultants on staff, especially when writing storylines dealing with trauma, shock, and horror in order to be conscientious about the potential effects the particular episode or scene may have on the viewers." Could ANYTHING be more antithetical to art? As if suits don't have enough fucking power in the artistic process.
Joshua Cooper
Fuck. Now I have to go watch some Violet Monroe scenes.
Michael Peterson
Still miles ahead of sociology and social science. That shit isn't even science.
While many psychology field drift into that shit, much of psychology is in the real of real sciences like biology and chemistry.
(Though certainly there are plenty of quacks looking to make a buck and get media attention like the psychologist in this article. )
Carson Sanders
Maybe when she was younger, but she was way used up by the time I got in there.
Xavier Hernandez
What are they wrong about?
Justin Walker
The slut shaming was purely for sexual. Don't tell me it didn't move a little bit, user...
Ian Ortiz
>Dany escape some awful circumstances to literally walk through fire, Yeah, the fires she stared to kill people with.
>free the slaves
With no plan to transition them into paid employment, just expecting an ancient civilisation to deal with it.
>bring Dragons to the north Eat everyone's food and scare the shit out of women and kids at a sensitive time
She's a crank
Christopher Wright
>[my character] is supposed to win Please fuck off