Admit it

Imagine building up Jaime's character arc from being a self centered horrible person to a selfless caring individual for 8 seasons to have him throw it all away just to die in a tunnel with your evil whore sister.

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I didn't, but it was a sad goodbye, Cersei was a character who's affairs I was following for almost a decade, tragic to the very end. I teared up at tyrion's goodbye

I cried that they decided to ignore all the ground work that had been laid for them for some bullshit scene that doesn't fit the characters anymore.

and not only that, he didn't fulfill the prophecy

I didn’t cry, but I felt something

I thought it was the best scene in the episode, and one of the better deaths in the series.

He loved her.

And more importantly, she carried his unborn child. He is a reel human bean and if you think otherwise you might not have a soul

For what? A terrible conclusion? Nah

Jamie deserved better and Cersei deserved worse

You and I can probably agree with it being written poorly.

But I was angry too until I realized that Jaime's story is not a story of a hero. It's a tragedy. It's a story of a doomed man who, in the end, makes the wrong choice because he loves what's terrible.

And you know what? Sometimes stories like that are worth telling. Even if I don't like the ending.

Cried for Jaime's butchered character. Unbelievable that they could fuck that up that badly.

I guess fucking my own sister would make me real human being. Whatever you say guy

it was one of the better scenes yes

It does fit the characters if you aren't a brainlet. People don't change completely. They can change a lot, but still have many of their basic flaws and feelings. Jaime became a completely different person for the most part, but the one part that didn't change completely were his feelings for Cersei. Despite all he went through, he still wanted to try and save her, which is human. His feelings for Cersei were his greatest weakness, and it killed him in the end. It was a fitting end for his character. He came into the world with her, and he left it with her.

the prophecy where she was going to be killed by her brother was only in the books, the show prophecy only said about her kids dying

>nd more importantly, she carried his unborn child.
she lost that one tho.

This, but it didn't have much time to sink in as I was quickly wisped away to hit the next plot point.

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Jaime wanted a good girl, but he needed the bad poosay

How do people still take this series seriously enough to actually cry?

Admit it, you cried

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White men are cancelled

the episode was good

The moment Greycuck comes up after he stabs the golden company guy was possibly one of the WORST green screen shots I've ever seen.

You would have a point if, like so many others have said, it was written well. Jaime's transition from selfless back to selfish was very abrupt and forced for the sake of the plot. It didn't have any foreshadowing.

If I get dubs they live and the scene is a meme death just like Bran out the window fake out

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i got a bit of a feel when arya called him sandor then just said "thank you"

i think he knew exactly what it meant

It varied between embarrassing fanservice (cleganebowl, immortal arya) and ironically entertaining (random slaughter, jaime v euron). The dramatic stuff is so contrived at this point i don't understand how anyone can engage with it seriously

what exactly did it mean?

what's random about the slaughter?

to me it was basically bran telling theon he's a good man. just that she won't forget everything good he's done even though he's a flawed man

I agree that the story wasn't told very well.

I do think this will end up being Jaime's story. He will fight for a "noble cause" for a while, perhaps. But, like some addicts, he will fall off the wagon. And his actions will kill him.

*farts loudly*
That’s what I thought of that scene

?

what do you find random about dany's slaughtering?

Have sex

cope harder danyfag

Watching that scene, all I could think was: Joffrey is insanely hot.

Holy based

based and redpilled

deep

My point is, the way and reasons for his death stayed was in line with his character development.

You Rick and Morty autist.

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Based poo and fart poster

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>has her entire familys legacy destroyed and forced to confront her and her unborn childs death
>people complained that she cried too much this episode
I wish she did more but I thought the end of her arc was really tragic and well done. When she was insisting her child survive it got to me.

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This and Tyrion talking for the last time, even if both scenes were cut far, FAR too short. Lazy cunts.

I actually felt bad for Cersei. Props to the actress

On the other hand I just didn't feel much when Jaime and Tyrion said their goodbyes, despite them being far more likable

Why'd he go back to her? What was the point of all his development if he was just going to end up in the same place he was in Season 1?

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Because this isn’t a shonen anime where the bad guy becomes good after being around the protagonist, despite how many Yea Forums autists want it to be that way

If you want to see a strong self centered guy become a cuck just focus on Vegeta’s scenes in the Namek saga

i cried when tyrion was thanking jaime

i dont care about this shit dyke

>Because this isn’t a shonen anime where the bad guy becomes good after being around the protagonist

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Because contrary to what the media feeds you, people sometimes don't change. In fact, 9 out of 10 times, they don't. Jaime tried the good guy act for a while, wasn't feeling it, realized that ultimately all she really cared about was her sister, and embraced who he was. Go watch shonen if you want every single character to have "muh heroic redemption arc" retard.

>cersei has almost no dialogue the entire season
>stares out a window with le smug face
>no insight into her character, what she is thinking/feeling
>like during the battle of the blackwater all of the dialogue between her and sansa
>nope just staring out a window
>le smug face turns into le scared face
>dies
tripe

This isn't Chernobyl, blyat

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>Jaime tried the good guy act for a while
Why the fuck did he kill the Mad King then if he was always just a bad guy? Just for fun?

On the inside I did. Outwardly it was very difficult to muster sympathy for someone who had done what she did.

Fag

D+D have done it again

>le smug face turns into le scared face
That was the point. She was a delusional paper tiger who fell from grace in a way that turned her back into the scared little girl she had always been, same as Dany.

Fuck you, I spat my tea

With the obvious caveat that Dany wasn't a paper tiger, just if that wasn't clear.

Point is there was no drama or intrigue or depth of character, just typical lazy writing. No impassioned or embittered dialogue. Nothing. This was the end of Game of Thrones. A facial feature turning into a different facial feature after 5 episodes.

I did a bit

It fits the character well. Did you expect redemption and jamie to live happily ever after with brienne?

That's the woman hes loved all his life and shes carrying his child. He knows what she is but he still loves her

Literally why would be betray her for dany after the army of the dead is defeated?

I guess modern low IQ audiences cant appreciate a tragedy. Everyone has to have a heroic ending even if it doesnt actually fit the character

Oh yeah no question it was trash but the story is not as incoherent as people want to believe. Even Dany's descent was hinted at in earlier seasons, Dabid just fucked it up for the last two.

Theon was never a bad guy

I already cried tears of laughter at everything prior to this

Lannisters seem to all get killed off by gravity

ok bro

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He's more of a zuko-like character who wanted to be loved by his family

If it was actually tragic. His arc was being written by an eighth grade girl for the past two episodes and his death fell completely flat.

why

She knew the hound was going to die

The hound and arys are mirrors of each other. Arya becomes "no one" the hound becomes a figure rather than a person. This point is hit home in the books when the hound is raping and pillaging the riverlands and has a bounty on his head, only its not sandor it's someone who found his helmet. Sandor is in a religious monastery right now and the priests say "the hound is dead. I buried him"

Sandor was treated like a trained dog through the early part of the series. Just a killer. He knows that. He long ago gave up his humanity and only lives for the day he gets an excuse to fight gregor.

Arya was going down the same vengence and loss of identity path but sandor stops her and tells her to go home. She listens and leaves. He goes to his death.

Her calling him sandor is important because thats his name. No one ever calls him sandor though. It's always the hound. She remembers who she is and lets go of vengence and as their last goodbye she thanks the person for helping her see what route she was going. The person, not the dog

>shes carrying his child.
no she wasn't

breh, I was being sarcastic, you have to be brain dead retarded to not get that exchange.

No. I did not cry. To have Jaime, the Kingslayer, and Cersei die indiscriminately among a pile of rubble, ash, stone, and fire is tragically poorly written. I guess I'm supposed to assume that Cersei and Daenrys saw each other at some point during that bloodbath and resolved themselves on their course of action, but I really wanted there to be some words shared between the two of them before whomever ascended the throne- some acknowledgement of Cersei that she played her hand poorly to Dany- maybe even some graveling on her part. I don't know. Maybe this is a decent resolution after all.

All I could think of while Cersei and Jaime held each other was that this is possibly the greatest brother/sister love story ever written.
>tunnel collapses

Yeah. This scene got to me a bit too. Tyrion's betrayal was made far more meaningful through their dialogue, and it was much easier to empathize with Tyrion's position especially while lamenting how Tyrion will surely die at the whims of his queen, which sort of counters all the times he was threatened yet saved by Cersei.

I'll admit .. I didn't want Cersei to ...

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The people who complained dehumanized cersei. It's like they forgot the character or the show theyre watching.

The show burned you in the early seasons for believing the fairy tale good vs evil bullshit then they lulled you back into it and burned you again.

Cersei might be pretty awful but shes still human. Her actions are the result of her experiences in life guiding her there.

People wanted to see her die violently or something because they forgot. They went through a lot of effort humanizing her up until the sept blew up.

Why wouldn't she be scared, cry, and cling to her brother when it all comes crashing down around her?

> guy who pushed kid out window deserves redemption

lel

To add, this series is about how fucked up war is. Even the worst person ever is still human facing certain death with the love as Daenerys Stalin is burning berlin. You can still have sympathy for the "bad guy" in that moment

Always loved her character, it was sad to see her show emotions

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Yeah, imagine doing all that character building stuff with that one most character defining quote from Jaime summarizing his entire character motivating his every action through the series
>the things we do for love

Yeah, same.

She didnt need to say anything though. Her tears as she learns all her defenses are gone say enough. Only brainlets need dialogue to figure out whats inside a character.

She put on the stoic reagal exterior but when it all came crashing down she was just a human. Started off delusional and then as the realization crept in her inner emotions were going crazy but she kept her stoic exterior, she still couldnt stop herself from letting tears come down.

Then everyone in her circle was dead and she was alone and lost as everything was falling apart and she saw the one person who was there from the beginning and she broke down

It honestly wouldve been better if cersei said nothing in the episode. Just sat there quiet as reports came in and when she ran into jamie she saw the blood and you saw the reaction on her face that she knew he was dying and then as they reach the tunnels and are trapped she says her first words of the episode "I dont want to die"

>When she was insisting her child survive it got to me.
Literally, Cersei had every vantage point to weigh the consequences of her actions. Wanting for her child to survive seemed like a peripheral idea when you consider all the steps she took, some even unnecessary, to almost ensure that her child would die. I mean, it was pretty laughable at that point. With that said, I still didn't want to see it happen but it seemed like everyone, except Cersei, would accept the possibility.

It's established cersei is his evil addiction that drives him to do bad things. He does good without her, and hes an honorable knight when cersei is out of the picture. That doesnt mean hes capable of giving her up

You knew what this character was because they told you what he was. You expected him to change because you assumed he would. Why?

Realistically was there a better actor than Lena Headey on this show? Dinklage was good and Emilia going full Dothraki almost redeemed her from the past few seasons but nobody even touches Headey. 2 seasons of looking out the window and she was still less cringey than Arya / Sansa / basically all the main characters.

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i did feel extremely sorry for them.

i agree. seeing heady not act like cersei is creepy

Mate if you din't, you have as much empathy as a rock

But the end of last season was literally Jaime walking away from Cersei - choosing to do the good thing against his sister's wishes. Your interpretation doesn't jibe with what we've been shown thus far.

Charles Dance was pretty great. Iain Glen was always pretty great too, even if he's been consistently sidelined throughout. Headey was up there though. Dinklage stopped caring a few seasons ago.

>Cersei GoT a better send-off than Dany will

honestly I agree with the girls. Killing slave masters isn't the same as killing innocents. Her whole point was to liberate and protect the innocent, so yeah her killing all of them doesn't make any sense. THe incels on Yea Forums saying this was foreshadowing and well executed are the same incels who were crying about the character assassination of Stannis when he killed his daughter.

Both of them are out of character and terribly executed.

That’s true Charles Dance was probably the best, but he also benefitted from being killed before everything went off the rails lmao

people make mistakes

Tywin

All she's done for the past couple seasons is stare off into the middle distance and look smug.

>foreshadowing
a targaryen alone in the world is a terrible thing

It was foreshadowed not well executed wtf. Stannis wasn't even foreshadowed, he just got suddenly fucked by 20 good men.

Joke post?

>jamie and tyrion scene
not
varys and tyrion
>good bye old friend
i didnt cry but that was pretty deep.

>all this Cersei whiteknighting
Get the fuck back to twitter. She deserved her brain splashed on rubble by a rock. Jaime deserved much better than her and the writing he got.
The only scenes I felt a hint of emotion during was Varys saying goodbye to Tyrion and Arya thanking Sandor.

Aye

The two character that the show doesn't completely take a shit on for their arc.
People complains about Jamie turning back to Cersei as a "reverse character development" is missing the point. Jamie isn't returning to Cersei to help her with w/e stupid shit she's doing. He returns to her to be with her at the final moment together. Cersei might be a fickle lover to Jamie, but she's still his beloved sister and she's a Lannister. She still means a lot to Jamie and he will gives his life to protect her and comfort her even if he won't do any evil deed for her.

It's the problem with normal fags unable to look pass any media beyond the veil of good vs evil. Popularity of capeshit also is a part of the symptom and part of the cause for this state of mind even more. That's why D&D dumbed down the story to good guy vs bad guy to pander to the normies.

>she says her first words of the episode "You're a big guy"

this

i always have a soft spot for brotherly love, especially when it's so special sinse jaime was the only one who didnt hate tyrion and actually loved him. truly a touching brotherhood.

They both did a great job. I loved the scene.

i smiled actually

I always felt like her being pregnant was a fucking lie though