Was cleganebowl worth the hype?

>the fire in the braziers play no role in the actual fight
Oh shit I had forgotten we never saw him get over his fear of fire. Wasted opportunity.

It was shit. He was not even fighting his brother, his brother died fighting the red viper

Why did the mountain protected the queen before, at the colisseum, in a very military fashion against the hound and then lost his shit in the red keep?

Here's what an actual arc would have been:
>the hound confronts his brother
>they fight a little
>he burns his brother with fire showing he's no longer afraid
>he gets over his revenge, he has grown as a character
>he leaves without killing his brother
>his brother dies anyway
That's would be an actual arc with emotional catharsis, as opposed to just jumping off a building and commuting suicide after having the viewers spend 8 years watching that fucking character.

But they needed to insert Arya, the fan favorite, user...

There's a certain catharsis to a man fulfilling his own self-destructive lust for vengeance.

Suicide is, poetically, the only way he could have stopped his brother. He was killed by fire. Not just the fire he fell into, but the fire that burned him when he was younger. D&D probably didn't write this pottery, and that's why it's so poignant.

I'm pretty sure they got killed by the fall, retard. D&D had everything to do with it because this the cleagenbowl is reddit, no GRRM.

The fact that they fell into fire isn't a mistake. It was chosen for its symbolic resonance. You're just anti-reddit signaling to show how cool you are. Braindead fuck.

>wasn’t a mistake
No shit nigger the whole city is on fire

FUCKING DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I think Sandor killing his brother in a "you should have died long ago but look at you now" sort of way would be better

You didn't even watch the episode, dipshit. There were many places that weren't on fire.

So was Varys the mountain all along?

I don't remember this scene from Attack of the Clones

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no he just jumped off a cliff and killed himself for no reason
could have slung clegane off when he impaled him

>>the hound stabs through full plate armor somehow
because his sandor fucking clegane

youtube.com/watch?v=9izyQ7zdE2Y
Whole fight reminded me of The Punisher vs The Russian from Punisher (2004). Even ends in a similar way.

>>for some reason the hound's sole motivation in life is revenge now
what was it in the books?
seems like he was always just going with the flow and doing whatever the fuck he wanted
he's the only reason i watched this shitty show

this
did that happen in the book as well?
i want him to fight his brother at prime

sandor really should have lived

only for memes

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kek

>two more names off my list, heh

in the books he doesn't really give that much of a shit about his brother, he hates him and would be perfectly happy killing him but it's hardly his reason to get up in the morning. like you said he's pretty much just doing whatever the fuck he wants. he's trying to bring arya to robb to get a lordship, but obviously that doesn't turn out as planned.

last we saw of him he was living with some priests on a religious island recovering from his wounds.

This. Fights him not for revenge but in order to free him from an existence as a perpetually-rotting corpse would have been kino, showing mercy to an unmerciful man who fucked up his childhood

No but it was okay. Mountain being a zombie would always have ruined it, Ser Robert Strong will likely be more interesting in the books when the fight ends up happening.

Brienne vs Hound is how I would have liked it to go down. Dirty, rough, just savage fighting

lmao what the fuck

youtube.com/watch?v=t08RN2yPJik

I felt nothing.

why in the fuck was he varys instead of thor?
he looked nothing like before and it was fucking stupid

any chance of the fat fuck remaking the show with the original actors?
sandors actor is so perfect

in the books The Mountain has a similar fate, but he becomes a knight under the name "Robert Strong" and is virtually the same.
The only major problem(s) with Cleganebowl in the show is that it makes fuck all sense for Sandor at that point, and doubly so once Gregor's helmet comes off. Who the fuck wants revenge against a dead man? The Hound should have just fucked off at that point.
Also The Mountain's actions make no sense.

Gregor was poisoned by Oberyn's spear and died screaming in the dungeons.

Sandy as a guy who found God was always an interesting concept and I’m sad they didn’t particularly use it in the show. Sansa sang him a song about the Mother and he literally cried, you’d think a brush with death and getting saved by monks would make him sort of devout

no it was rushed and poorly choreographed just like the entire season

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not really considering the mountain died a long time ago.

would have been better if the hound realized that after stabbing him through the gut.
maybe then he could have escaped and lived a decent life on a chicken farm.

PLAYED COLLEGE BALL YOU KNOW

Brienne vs. Hound was one of the few show changes I really liked

did he get brought back somehow?

because we gotta wrap this shit up so we can get on with prequel series and star wars
on the subject of that retarded arena scene you references, why didn't Dany/Jon/Tyrion pack that shit with King's Landing inhabitants?
You know, instead of trusting Cersei, you could've doubled down and had the people of KL to back you up and potentially overthrow Cersei if she refused/backed out.
THESE FANTASY POLITICS REALLY ARE A BIG THINK

In the book Cleganebowl has been theorized because even though the Hound has been left for dead, Brienne comes across an abbey with a very tall man that would match the Hound description.
At the same time there's a religious uprising against the noblemen and the church percieved degeneracy, and Cersei is currently awaiting a trial by combat. Since Jaime wont come, she will pick Robert Strong to defend her against the Champion of the Faith that has yet to be revealed. Some think this guy will be Sandor.

no
i like him much better as agnostic or kinda hating the gods
youtube.com/watch?v=ojOKGrvXFUE

it was still thor just make up

Problem with that is that Sandor is lame now. He has a bum leg, Brienne sees him limping when he’s digging graves. I guess it could heal up to regular eventually but I don’t expect him to be the same guy when/if he gets off the QI

There's just a new 8 feet tall guy that came out of nowhere ever since the Mountain died that doesn't eat, drink, speak, or leave his full plate of armor.

I enjoyed it for what it was, but what it was was empty fanservice. It had the narrative weight of a napkin. Gregor could have squashed Sandor like a bug, or Sandor could have hacked him to pieces in a blind rage, or the Keep could have fallen in on their heads and each outcome would have had exactly the same impact on the story.

It didn't even carry forward the running subtext of Sandor proving that honor arises from your soul, not titles or vows. He's presented as having never risen above himself to a higher, more noble cause than vengeance. He goes to his death consumed in the fire of his own fraternal hatred. That's neither an enlightening nor particularly satisfying character arc.

wow uncle Fester looks like that?

It wasn't explicitly stated, but there's a knight introduced by Qyburn called Robert Strong that never shows his face that everybody guesses is really the Mountain.

isn't he 6'4-6'6?
i wanna be hound mode but i'm a 6'1-6'3 manlet

it was pretty fucking stupid since the mountain couldnt talk

Brienne sees his warhorse there in their stable as well.

It was shit, what should have been one of the best duels in the series is one of the worst. Also, a suicidal desire for revenge makes zero sense for a character who has always prioritized survival. To make it even remotely acceptable:
>don’t jump the camera to arya the goblin stumbling around every five seconds, put the fight in one dedicated shot
>fight moves down the stairs, doesn’t take place the whole time on them
>hound fights, landing strikes, but is suffering attrition
>mountain speaks, humanizing him and showing that a semblance of him is left
>draws a second sword which ends up being beric dondarrion’s and manages to win by incinerating the mountain, using fire and overcoming his fear
>kino shot of hound overlooking the burning KL and smiling at peace before the place collapses

If you watch the after episode stuff with the writers, they geniusly reveal that somehow the Hound knew there was a big pit of fire on the ground below and deliberately tackled the Mountain into it, THUS he overcame his fear of fire and got revenge for his brother burning his face when they were young

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does he get injured by briene is the books to? only happend in the show because he was sick starving and had bad luck so he fell off a cliff

This was fucking retarded because Sandor had no reason to care about his brother anymore other than fanservice. He found god twice (first with the monk and then with the brotherhood, getting visions from the lord of light). He was, for the most part, a reformed man (or actually, he was always a decent guy, he just didn't allow himself to believe it, but both Sansa and Arya realized this), and he should've stayed that way.

Basically they fucked him in the same way they fucked Jaime's arc, as both are about redemption and being the best version of themselves. If they were going to fuck one of them at least give the other a decent ending, for fuck's sake.

Fuck Cleganebowl, which brother is going to kill Cersei?

Yeah

he had a completly different head shape though the fuck
he'll be back to prime

No. In the books he just falls out from fever and infection and Arya leaves him.

>I guess Dany forgot about Euron's navy

>Gregor could have squashed Sandor like a bug,
how? sandor is still very strong and a lot more skilled

He doesn't fight Brienne in the book, he get fucked up by the bandits we see him and Arya fight.
Brienne is on her own quest of finding the Stark girls and stumble upon this weird tall guy that she sees from afar until she goes along her quest

based big kev drawing dimes and wrecking vanilla midgets

Does anyone feel The Hound had zero motivation to go this far south to fight the mountain besides the fact the fans wanted it to happen?

It seemed like his 'resurrection' is about him living and realizing he still wants to be around with Arya and other good people...

he said like 4 words before he became a zombie anyway

Star Wars is in great hands.

Holy shit you're right I forgot about the visions arc. There was literally no reason or motivation for the Hound to pursue Cleganebowl over anything else. Why the fuck do these episodes exist

that's why if he spoke during this battle it would be more interesting.

In the way it was set up in the book they don't even know they're going to fight, and it would be over something else entirely, not just a fraternal duel to the death

miss me with that anime shit, faggot

i wish he lived and just traveled around with arya

t. wants to see the tall quip guy kill the big zombie man

I would argue that his whole arc was that he realized that even if he could never go beyond seeking revenge, he could at least convince Arya to live for herself.

something about fingers in eye sockets is just absolutely horrifying

>completely different head shape
that's why they call it movie magic

Literally mental gymnastics

nah they'd be too old anyway

>It's never too late to stop hurting people, and to start helping people. It's never too late to come back.
>AAAHHRGGH DIE DIE I NEED TO KILL MY ZOMBIE BROTHER ARGGHHHRHHGR

>tfw was a schoolyard bully and did a light version of that to kids all the time

Everyone stabs through full plate armor in this show, the show runners think plat armor is just like a heavy jacket that doesn't serve any purpose

Was it just me or did the stairs and backdrop during this fight look like a PS2 game?

That would've been the right ending for his arc, as it was never about revenge. Just make him travel around with Arya doing cool shit and helping people like the monk that saved him did.

Hound dropping 3 guards in a flash was cool, Qyburn getting broken open and discarded like a shotgunned beer at a frat party was cool, the stand off before the fight was very cool, then it was pretty weak

Like everything else in Season 8, all the build up leading to what was expected fell short becoming anti-climatic.

I'd like to know what would've been the that thing the Hound was "looking for" before going off to fight the Mountain.

I'm against spoon-feeding narratives, but it would've been nice to hear that he didn't want to be "the Hound" anymore, if that was what he wanted.

Even if he didn't have the visions it didn't make sense. His arc wasn't headed towards revenge. If it happened by chance it would've been much better, but deliberately going to find his brother (and not even stopping Cersei from leaving) was retarded.

Cersei is dead man

Arya called him Sandor.

>when people think sub 200lbs fighters can beat top tier strongmen like eddie and thor
and some of those big guys are just as fast

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what was the point though? just looked stupid

wrong

youtube.com/watch?v=13ma5SixwUE

>the fucking sickles from the horse niggers just slice through it like paper

This is the fault of modern society. Most everyone thinks that because someone is huge and strong, that he must be slow and stupid is well. Nobody is allowed to be perfect, it's incomprehensible. Life must be arbitrarily balanced like a video game.

Nigga what?
That can't be right.
I mean they even bothered establishing the prophecy in the show.
Nah, man.
Lookin' forward to the finale.

Why didn't Sandor cut off his head in the first place?

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>youtube.com/watch?v=13ma5SixwUE
Man I fucking miss season 2. Tywin is the best

All the Mountain helmets after season 1 have looked lame.

Every benefit has a cost, there is no "im good at everything".

That's also a modern myth, that someone can correct all of their weaknesses and be near invincible with no weakpoint.

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lol there was a scene where you could easily a green outline around greyworm and i thought the same thing

it felt like a forced meme

so Howland Reed isn't going to be in the finale or?

There are several characters in Worm that take this assumption and use it to their advantage, highly recommend

Reddit told me it was epic

>Considering it was the only decent part of the episode, yes.
Holy shit you roasties are seething.

D&D bait and switched SJWs and made them look exactly like the mindless NPCs they are... in hilarious fashion.

The epitome of a woman...
>can't lead without male advisors telling her what to do
>gets rejected for sex, goes crazy
>make freeing king's landing all about her
>overly emotional
>virtue signals to others but inside a heartless cunt
>low IQ and controlled by feelings
etc.

Best episode since season 1.

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This

You've been reposting this, are you underaged or something

The writing was as shit as ever, it's just that normies only notice it now because it's negatively affecting their favourite YAASSS QUEEN character
It's fucking retarded that they only seem to notice the bad writing now.

It was pointless.

being on stairs totally fucked it

True, and the fan fic writer in me loved to hear that.

...but is that what he really wanted?

I'm annoyed it took place on the stairs, and was broken up by cuts to el goblino

poor guards
i would have backed up and been like uh gregor?

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i'm 300lbs and faster than a lot of people under 180 pounds

Underwhelming. However I did appreciate Rory's acting more on the second viewing.

Would've been more catharthic if he slowly pushed or pulled his brother into a fire, against his own fear in, and slowly starting to burn together.

The editing was terrible.

okay like 4 sentences in the entire series
and that was the worst mountain
1st actornd>>rd

Sandor killed Cersei cuz if he didn't show up Mountain would have moved those bricks, crushed Euron, and Jaime could have his MILF and kid.

Jews can't show piety, now can they? They have to show everything as temporary tradeoffs like the merchants they are.

Noup

kek
theres this 250 pound viking looking guy that can do flips and a bunch of highly acrobatic shit and also is strong as hell

No it was so shoddily done
But the ending was perfect

Meera is best girl
i wonder what her feet smell like

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It's to show the audience what would've happened to Arya had she chose following Sandor until the end.

I thought it was good.

>ds3
was gonna say trash but nvm it's pretty fitting for s8

The fight they had at the tournament was a lot better than this super warrior bullshit.

kek
jaime should have been able to move enough for them to crawl through
and euron was already dead

Just imagine you clean some fucking cripples colon for months to years on end and take him to his destination losing your brother along the way then the little fucker says he doesn't care once you escape back home.

Meera should have killed Bran

It was shit, also it would've been nice why he couldn't be killed or how he was actually resurrected, also the entire part with Arya was fucking stupid

>traveled the entire continent to kill cersei because of what she did to your entire family
>get almost to her
>"no it's too dangerous you have to run away"
>"lol ok cy@"

kek
brans a fucking faggot
night king should have won
meera and sandor and lord commander edd where the only characters left i liked anyway

You’re already Hound mode user. Get ripped and start fucking gingers, you can do it

need to buy a bastard sword barbell and maybe a giant tractor tire
i need to do this

What does all of that matter if he puts on a dress and acts like a woman?

A weakpoint doesnt have to be combat related, he may be a weak man of character, of moral courage, of caring about his tradition.

I could care less if some tranny or normie body builder lifts and runs circles around me.

What matters is who is willing to fight and die for what they care about.

Most athletes have not felt the true danger of being in combat where there are no "referees" or "hospitals" there to serve as a backdrop.

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Again, life is not a fucking game and posting Drizzt or whatever isn't helping your case. Being big and strong does not stop you from being fast and dextrous, there isn't a point buy system in real life.
This is no different than people, to this day, believing that plate armour makes the wearer slow and useless. The average mong conscripted monkey doesn't want to accept that someone can be nigh invulnerable to most weapons while still retaining all his speed and strength.

Kevin Nash was raped by The Punisher in the summer of '04

No it's still his brother. There was enough hate left for him to abandon Cersei just to fight Sandor

Plus, those muscles wont mean much with a bullet to the head.

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Life isnt a game where you can fucking minmax your stats either.

Every benefit HAS A COST, no matter what, you don't get to be good at everything, achieving some things, means neglecting other things.

The man that obsesses over his own self image, neglects the society around him, allowing it to be destroyed.

well i'll fit all of those once i get /fit/

best ds build btw

pussy

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Do you know what a jump cut is

no but I guess it was a better part of the episode

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bronn is a pussy that would have been molested by the hound
hell 1 armed jaime should have got em

they fell from 8+ stories
the fall killed them
the fire was just a CGI afterthought

someone post the webm of him killing qyburn

hound vs. tormund who wins?

Sandor
But tormund is still really damn good and underrated

It hit the right notes

> realize he can't escape his past, makes a plea for Arya not to repeat his mistakes.
> confronts his lifelong tormentor that made him who he is, realizes he's dead already and he can never have his revenge
> finally finds personal redemption by tumbling into the fire with him and use the thing Gregor scarred him with for life to destroy him.

>which ends up being beric dondarrion’s
This would have been really cool actually, would put all his time spent with Thoros and Beric worth it in the end if he lit up his own sword

Faster at eating maybe

He looked cooler with helmet on, looked like scuffed Jason Voorhees without lol

no faster and combat and short sprints you twink faggot fuck you
i don't even eat much just an endomorph with low metabolism

I just realize sandor just killed jason vorhees
that's literally what the mountain was
made no sense that he didn't just shove him off or behead him though

too short, the arya cuts were shit
also some sort of allusion to fire during the fighting would have been good instead of falling to it, in which case the fall kills them not the fire

Looked like some God of War shit

After it was previously established that their swords couldn't do shit to it during that fight Jorah the Explorer had with that one dude when Drogo was dying.

Cx homie

>no faster and combat
Nothin personal big boi

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If his brother was dead then why did he disobey cersei and smash qyburns brains in?

It was still gregor, gregor just went along with it because it allowed him to do what he loved. Killing

So what's the actual reason Gregor hated Sandor so much?

I mean it was never particularly elaborated upon and now it's some epic destined confrontation.

would have been a little better if:
>hound gets eyes crushed
>mountain has a hint of a smile, as he could have easily killed his brother but is toying with him instead
>hound POV shot, can see a vague figure in front of him as he's 90% blind
>suddenly sees light flood behind the figure and he realizes the walls been blown away
>rest same

no

Sandor was shown to be better than gregor in s1

Sibling rivalry along with being a psychotic murder machine. I am only child myself, but I have always known older brothers to pick on little brothers, and some were worse than others. Gregor was 5 years older than Sandor and quite a bit larger. I am sure Sandor was smarter than Gregor, so that probably made him jealous too. Didn't Gregor also kill their own father?

so what happend to jon being the prince that was promised?
he did literally nothing

>2nd to last episode ever
>actually got cleganebowl meme
i clapped regardless

Cringe

The books seem to be leading to The Hound fighting The Mountain during Cerseis trial against the Faith. Of course the show kind of rushed through that plotline.

Extremely disappointing, no real sword fighting in the most anticipated fight of the franchise and what, like 3 minutes of screen time? Fuck you, I never watched an episode since season 6 but downloaded this one anyway to see it finally happen, but I was extremely disappointed.

this, but literally the opposite. There is no way Arya would have died like Sandor. She would have cut Cersei's throat in a second, and then back-flipped out the window in time to save all the refugees. Even Sandor had plenty of opportunity to live if he wanted, Gregor was just throwing him around. He could have walked away.