>tfw 90% of Yea Forums dont understand jaimes arc >there are ACTUALLY """people""" who are complaining that they "ruined" his development
only normies and children expect character development to be a straight path to a happy end. instead D&D gave us a more interesting path where he knows she is evil and tried to fight his love for her but ultimately realized hes a peace of shit and gave in to her hold on his heart
>b..but he already realized she was a monster and begun to change
and heroine addicts who quit, end up going on it, because they cant fight their desires
jaime was a true tragic character and its good that he didnt get a full redemption to go live with giantfu
>Jaime's arc is he didn't have an arc Well no shit, neither does anybody else in the show.
Zachary Brooks
>I like my fantasies HOPELESS AND REALISTIC So your parents probably were divorced and your life sucks and thats your frame of reference for everything isn't it? Good stories have character development, not caricatures.
>Betrays his sister >Rides for days all the way north >Heading to the most dangerous battle in centuries >All of this because he just needed to bang Brienne the beauty just once >Sex was disappointing so now he goes back even though Cersei sent an assassin to kill him Watch the show again. I'm perfectly fine with a tragic ending but this was not nothing but lazy writing. Game of Thrones is literally lowering people's iq. I usually don't say this but you have to go back.
For all the complaints about Mary Sues in other franchises, the fact that a villain turned hero still dies because he's a little dumb for pussy is refreshing as hell.
Fuck giving a dude plot armor because he's redeemed, or making 5 years of redemption erase the 40 years of bad decisions he's made.
Hudson Long
his arc is a rise and fall. he is an inherently good man except that he is absolutely in love with a monster and struggles to resist her. he had a chance at a good end with brienne, but his flaw ruined him
its like you have never heard of a tragic arc before
Hudson Sullivan
>people never go back to their abusive ex's once they leave them
he went north because he is a good man, who was willing to risk his life and kill his sworn king to save millions from wildfire, he once again risked his life to save millions
but he faced a future without cersei and he couldnt do it
agreed
Ian Nelson
>more interesting >being the same shit before he redeemed himself Wow, who would've thought
The whole redemption fan theory about Jaime killing Cersei never made sense to me.
Why would he kill the only person he cares about in the world? Cersei is not even that bad, she's just portrayed as being cold and evil, but if you see things from her perspective then all her decisions makes sense.
Jace White
Killing her would be stupid obviously but remaining a total piece of shit after hints that there was more to him was still bullshit.
Jordan Foster
Agreed. I of course have many gripes with this season (almost all of it is shit), but Jaime's character was actually ended well.
Levi Ross
he said that but he didnt really mean it. he once again risked his life to go north and fight the night king in order to save innocents
Parker Moore
What do you expect? This board is full of Tolkienbabbies and Capechildren.
Justin Watson
His arc was he accidentally got factory reset to season episode 1 Jamie.
Camden Murphy
And then returned and didn't give a shit about more innocents? What was even his plan before he got caught?
Ryder Murphy
>Jaime skips the redemption arc book Jaime has and goes to Dorne to fight sand sneks for no reason >Suddenly has a change of heart and has a belated redemption arc and fights with Brienne >Suddenly says fuck it and goes back to die with Cersei why even bother sending him to Winterfell at all
Landon Watson
to get laid then realized it wasn't good puss
Luke Bell
Jaime's arc was a circle, what do i win
Levi Clark
he had been trying to talk cersei into surrendering ever since he got BTFO at the goldroad
they didnt explore his plan but he knew cersei was going to die and tried to go do what he could to save her
ultimately his plan with tyrion was to prevent a bloodbath
Gavin Ward
>why even bother sending him to Winterfell at all
so he could have a chance at a good future with brienne and realize he couldnt live without his waifu. it was to show how close he was to defeating his fatal flaw
Adam Jenkins
Holy shit brainlets like this actually exist. No, he went to Winterfell because fighting for the living was the right thing to do. Also being with your sisterlover in her last moments was also the right thing to do. Too difficult for single digit IQ?
Logan Price
>been trying to talk cersei into surrendering After she sent Bronn to kill him and after she murdered Dany's bff? Even he can't be that stupid.
>tried to go do what he could to save her And the only way for that woud be working together with Tyrion and Dany to win the battle as fast as possible. Instead he switched sides and talked to Tyrion like there was some hope for Cersei to win. The same Jaimie who's supposed to be a commander.
Juan Murphy
No you idiot. What would have been kino is if there was a scene where Jamie had the chance to ring the bell but chose to go to Cersei instead. He clearly admitted he was a piece of shit when he left Winterfell, but after having a heartfelt moment with his brother, it would have been a cruel confirmation to show Jamie disregard his plea at the first opportunity.
Nathan Rivera
you're not wrong in your argument, the problem is the way it was done; it is stupid screenwriting. either a character evolves or it doesnt.
you can not make an arc and suddenly throw everything in the air. it's absolutely frustrating. he starts to change, actually changes, but then goes back to be the exactly piece of shit he was before. it's like all he has been through didn't happened at all. that's the problem.
for me there are these two options a. he could be less of a piece of shit; making him evolve just a bit showing some kind of remorse when meeting cersei, or in the end. some glimpse that he is the guy that was fighting in winterfell. b. he could hesitate while changing, showing some internal conflict that maybe he was still the same dude.
there are many examples of portrails of addicts on tv and movies, they are good and understandable, none are nonsense like this character arc.
Joseph Bennett
>inb4 next episode Jamie crawls out of the rubble and then gets with Brienne
