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SHANSHA PLEASHE
How they ended that character crying for his life made no sense. As a boy he went into mortal combat to win a girl against a much larger man.
>tfw getting caught was part of his plan
The plane was going to crash, with no survivors.
D&D barely understand the characters
How would you end his arc?
I know that in the books he'll get killed personally by Lady Stoneheart, since that makes perfect narrative sense, but in the show he just kind of fizzled out.
>As a boy he went into mortal combat to win a girl against a much larger man.
Because he gravely misjudged the situation and actually thought he'd win. His pathetic grovelling before death was completely in character. Machiavellians view everyone with contempt, so the notion that they could be harmed doesn't apply to them until the last minute, by which point they often have pathetic breakdowns because they have no idea how to cope with the situation.
Look up the final moments of Lavrentiy Beria. All these types of personalities turn into cowards when they lose control.
>tfw you're about to manipulate the starks some more and then you spot the graphite lying around the courtyard
no user, le pathetic evil character meme isnt in character, nor realistic, nor funny, nor entertaining, nor anything of putting in media that is supposed to convey some meaning to you, his death doesn't tell us anything that other movies haven't, they did it way better than this horseshit, and everybody who isnt dumb as pigshit knows D&D had to kill him off because they didnt have time for another season which is why this scene was such a clusterfuck that it was ( same with le blow up the cathedral meme cersei pulled off )
>hhhhuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrr
Fuck off idiot.
That's a weak trope pushed by Hollywood to diminish strong characters because they despise such people in real life since they are a bunch of effeminate weirdos. Their pictures are their revenge against those they can't corral but are cowed by. Thanks for falling for their propaganda. It is still a disservice to the audience and the art of film making.
Bane?
Utterly wrong, you boot-licking degenerate.
>Yfw Harrenhall truly was off the table.
so is it pretty much agreed the only reason he was killed was because they had no idea what to do with him? and not because it was the conclusion of a plot line.
EPIC take downs, GoT haters got utterly BTFO'd by FACTS and LOGIC fellow targaryen warrior
He was always going to be outwitted by Sansa at some point, it's just the execution that was shit. In the books the endgame will be the same.
Anyone who actually thinks Littlefinger is going to win or, God forbid, is a 'strong character', is a complete moron and doesn't understand ASOIAF
Someone post it
Fuck off idiot.
He was a successful, powerful white male in a feminist world. His existence was problematic. He needed to be disposed of in the most pathetic way for YAAAS QUEEEN SLAAAAAY
Can you just once, shut the fuck up about the feminist/jewish/globalist/leftist/communist plot to take over the world? Can't you fucking subhumans contribute ANYTHING else to a conversation?
Smart character stopped being smart when the plot needed him to
At this point the books if they ever get completed will be a paraphrasing of the tv series so you won't get what could have been originally envisioned. Of course YAAAS QUEEEEN SLAAAAY is a must.
Execution was terrible, I agree. But he always going to get a pathetic death at Sansa's hands.
AY SHABBOSE
I've already told you to be quiet, /pol/ mutt.
Why would he want to join the Starks in the first place if it involved getting your throat slit?
Found the jidf shill
JIDF please leave
ahshuppoze...
does he actually say 'SHANSHA PLEASHE'? I only remember him saying 'SANSHA I BEG YOU'
Have sex
They killed him too early, he definitely would die but it just seemed anti-climactic for the man who was the driving force behind the whole story
Why wouldn't Littlefinger go out like a bitch? He's a manipulator; when charisma and intelligence aren't the solution, you don't think he'd at least try an emotional appeal?
During a sex strike? Are you a misogynist?
This. Normalfags are incapable of handling moral ambiguity or respecting people with fundamentally different viewpoints so they feel compelled to make every antagonist either a misunderstood goodguy or a shitty, pathetic person that they can feel vindicated and superior for opposing.
>littlefinger crying like a bitch
>lyanna mormont fighting courageously until the bitter end against a zombie giant
alt right btfo, again :^)
based shanshaposter
Immoral people are by definition shitty and pathetic. Littlefinger is unambiguously evil, and even he would probably admit it. Stannis is a morally ambiguous character.
This is true in the books too, by the way. Littlefinger is in no way sympathetic. The difference in the books is that he actually appears trustworthy on the outside and not as a cartoon villain.
>everything is political
I hate the modern world.
This, I don't have a problem with him going out crying, I have a problem with literally everything else in the scene.
Also in 6 years LF didn't come up with an excuse for betraying Ned in public, lmao.
With Harrenhal back on the table
It's going to be Sansa killing him. Just like Tywin's weakness was Tyrion, Petyr's weakness is Sansa. It won't be long before she realizes he's the one responsible for all of it.
>Immoral people are by definition pathetic
>Littlefinger is in no way sympathetic (and this makes him shitty and pathetic)
>normalfag instantly proving me right
There have been countless people you disagree with who were superior to you in any given way. You're just an insecure intellectual coward who can't handle the fact that his moral preferences are based on upbringing and essentially arbitrary. And that these moral preferences don't make your mediocre ass a winner.
t. self-diagnosed 'sociopath'
If you perceive any moral ambiguity in Littlefinger's character whatsoever, you're an idiot
now fuck off back to /pol/ please
L-LAJY SHANSHA
You go back to reeeddit, cuckold.
I have a hard time telling if some of the folks on the bottom are bad at acting, or if they are just being given complete shit to work with.
Him on the iron throne, with shansha at his sides.
>hmmm how do I win back Sansa's trust
>oh better make her think Arya wants to kill her!
TELL ME ABOUT AIDAN! WHY DOES HE DO THE POSE!?
Yes, get back in the kitchen
>thinks women should ever be left in a kitchen alone unattended
Yipes.
but numales idolize these littlefinger type characters. betas who've been bullied in their youth and overcompensate for their physical deficiencies by basing their whole character on the idea of being clever and intelligent idolize littlefinger and tyrion. the problem is the fact that martin is a bugman just like the fans so he made an effort to try and deconstruct the idea of a strong heroic male character (young robert baratheon) by turning him into a fat drunkard in his later years.
Sophie Turner is a fucking good actor unless you're an artlet. Just compare her presence now to even 3 seasons ago. Are you fucking kidding me ? Are you seriously gonna tell me she doesn't sell it ? Her entire evolution has been good writing and solid acting.
Compare everything in how she talks to Jon to how she talks to Dany.
Even when she sees the dragons, you can clearly see awe/fear for a moment before she suppresses it.
Charles Dance is ez role with 0 range required, clearly doesn't give a fuck and is just playing himself.. He only showed vulnerability once, after Cersei confirmed she's fucking Jaime. Like for a few seconds.
Lena overacts but is too entertaining.
The only not ez-mode role in your top tier is Theon.
Dinklage is really cringe sometimes, like during the trial - with the stupid inflexions and the ''little puffs of laughter'' to highlight the instability of the rage....drama school tier tricks. But other times he's really good.
Sweetrobin so high is based and milkpilled
Melisandre and Ellaria actors should both be a tier lower.
Michelle Fairley lower.
Meryn fucking Trant actor was so comical, with same expressions and cadence of speech from fucking season 1 onwards...
Compare that cartoon fuck to Carl Fookin Tanner, who is the best minor character without question and is a scarier psycho than 10 Meryn Trants.
People literally can't distinguish quality, depth of acting (in relation to character complexity) from the qualities of the character. In general, people are less and less inhibitory of their sub-cortical trash and can't compartimentalize how they evaluate information. Rise above, you simpleton.
Your feels towards the character determines your aesthetic judgement on the acting, unless it's a ridiculous over the top role like Joffrey.
And sheashon 8, I shaposhe..
No lawyer, no witnesses. what sort of due process is this?
Most people become fat with age. Many carefree youths become disillusioned drunkards.
>be intelligent character and pull the strings for the first few seasons
>be scheming in later seasons
>run across omnipotent cripple that says something he never should have known
>don't give a fuck and continue with your scheme
>die like a bitch
Bran is such a shit character. It's hilarious how nobody even questions what he does
George has cited Littlefinger as a character D&D don't understand from the beginning.
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God damn this made my day
>Machiavellians view everyone with contempt, so the notion that they could be harmed doesn't apply to them until the last minute, by which point they often have pathetic breakdowns because they have no idea how to cope with the situation.
Meanwhile the real Machiavelli endured torture without breaking.
that's besides the point. it's the archetype i'm talking about. his comments on aragorn's tax policies perfectly encapsulate this.
He does it wherever he wants too
AND HARRENHAL?
>kill the primary cause of the entire plot post-jon arryn's death because realpolitik is no longer important because night king
>lol just kidding night king is dead, half the characters scheming again immediately after
someone post that fair trial greentext
powerful
Nicollo apparently was a pretty decent, down to earth guy and a real patriot. The prince was simply his observations on how a lone rulers achieve power (being a ruthless dickhead helps). Read his discorsi if you want some insights into his ideals.
Because characters like Varys, Tyrion, Littlefinger are far more intelligent than the writers.
>Cersei over Tywin
>Anyone over Tywin
Get the fuck out
You asserted it was apart of the deconstructing of an archetype as if it was a contrivance but it was just a mirroring of what happens in reality.
>All these types of personalities turn into cowards when they lose control.
Do you feel in charge?
>This can't be happening. I'm in control here!
JIDF please...
Goddamn this is good
It's my pleasure to inform you that you are BANG wrong.
Littlefinger was gravely outmatched in that fight, but it was his opponent that was begging Littlefinger to give up, NOT the other way around.
SHANSHALitt
>larger
>Not bigger
Literally one job
pretty accurate, only as much as I dislike Arya's character now the actress is pretty great, especially in the first seasons when her storyline wasn't retarded. Also, Melly should be higher.
It is JIDF to say the books will now be tainted by the tv series and be nothing more than some variety of D&D YAAAS QUEEEEEN SLAAAY propaganda.
>smartest man in the realm outwitted by a troll, a cripple and a girl who spent the last 3-4 years being slapped around
o-ok
Discourses on Livy > The Prince imo
>that spacing
>bringing up pol out of nowhere
yikes...
Kit Harrington was legit terrible in early seasons, but he improved a great deal.
His son will avenge him
kino
>you cannot fast travel when enemies are nearby
He is a manipulator. Not supposed to be a retard though. You can't go for emotion when the people you're trying to manipulate you are ready to kill you- that ship has sailed while you were away from port. The correct move is to put all chips on "That's right, and you idiots still need me,"
They'll likely kill you anyway because shit would get a bit awkward if they didn't but every set back will now bring them closer to each other's throats, leaving them in a weakened state and almost make your last words prophetic. Death is no reason to stop twisting the knife.
Are there any British character actors who haven't been in got?
GoT fanbase really is a more 'mature' sonic fanbase
Make it into a gif
>this is your mind on /pol/
>Max von Sydow's role was so small he was entirely forgotten
Why are you defending terrorist states?
Why he loves big boys
Its not fair
>"I can be anywhere... anytime."
everybody post-s5 can do that Littlefinger, you're not special.
i always shaid you were a big guy shansa
The dialogue is so bad now that it's helping the shit actors. At this point the only actors they've got left who can do a half decent line reading are Liam Cunningham and Anton Lesser, and maybe COnleth Hill, but when everything everyone is saying is so fucking stupid anyway it doesn't matter
>He only showed vulnerability once, after Cersei confirmed she's fucking Jaime. Like for a few seconds.
And those few seconds of acting are unironically greater than the entire sum of Sophie's performance, and many other performances on the show.
That image is bait but you're right, they had insane luck with their child actors. Only Bran turned out shit but then again his script is kinda shit anyway. Maisie and Sophie are unironically great actors.
>dude realism lmao
most people don't lead armies into rebellions, wield large warhammers and kill princes with it in epic battles. robert is built up as an exceptional hero type character only to be debased later on. mythological character tropes martin builds on only to have them degraded were not meant to reflect reality but were more abstract idealizations of human behavior.
>peter over nikolaj
reddit tier memer here
Bran was the best of the kid actors at the start though, it warms my heart everytime he's on screen in the first two seasons.
He needed to be the ultimate player of the GoT. They make you think he wants the throne up until the very end. He dies quite close to "succeeding". In truth he represented chaos and wanted to take the whole thing down.
After his death reveal machinations he set into place long ago that end up taking down the monarchy like some afterlife Danny ocean.
>Valerian steel dagger "bigfinger"
Thanks for the chuckle, user
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>Do you think he will survive to the end?
>Yeah
he's 100% right about you being a weak effeminate ledditor
there have been plenty of noble, tyrannical figures whose sheer force of will, competence, charisma and ruthlessness would inspire awe and respects even to their enemies
but no, the neurotic histerical nerds run the show so they need to have the chatarsis where brave wymyn die like heroes and every halfcompetent man, ''le bad guy'' goes out like a bitch
>Sean Bean isn't exclusively at the top
>that smirk from Pilou
either getting a good laugh out of Aidan's lawerly dodge or thinking knowingly on what Aidan means by what he said.
I COMMAND YOU TO ESHCORT ME TO THE VALE
SHANSHA C-CAN WE SHPEAK ALONE
Part of the problem here is the audience judging the characters by contemporary liberal-democratic norms,*sniff* but the more serious problem is that, although, as fans like to remind us, the show is set in a pre-modern world of violence,*sniff* hierarchy and pervasive gender inequality, all the characters have the mores of contemporary bourgeois liberals,*sniff* either way we must content ourselves with the fact that Stannis is the true king of the seven kingdoms, Stannis,*sniff* so on and so on *sniff* etc etc
based and goblinpilled
Incorrect. Littlefinger was a cold schemer and manipulator. Rather than pleading, crying and more or less admitting he is wrong, he would rather have continued trying to convince sansa she's making a mistake, or try to make a deal saying he has information they need and generally make up all kinds of shit and play mindgames to appear innocent, relevant or useful so that sansa won't kill him. These kind of people are experts at wriggling themselves out of sticky situations and they will try to do so until the bitter end, what's even worse is that he always had backup escape plans for when shit went awry before but somehow not this time.
His death should have been more like this:
>Littlefinger rationally argues that everything he did was for sansa
>Is then put into prison by sansa while they prepare his public execution
>He escapes prison because of his contacts and spies
>Arya finds him on the run
>He tries to bullshit her
>She acts like it worked, puts dagger down and comes closer to him
>Littlefinger thinks he's save but then gets killed in a sudden move
> zizek is Stannis pilled
very based
HE'S COMING BACK BOYS
A thread died for this shit
have sex
why do you even exist ?
i'm glad everyone liked this so much.
Why the fuck do I love him so much guys? I don't even watch GoT, safe for first 2 seasons... He's so hot. Goddammit.
I find it surprising that nobody did a Yea Forums dubs of this scene yet
also fuck, literally in tears
Kek either way was funny.
We had Tyrion in the books and the show and he was a similar character in many ways, a "player" that played the game with wit and not physical strength. Arguably Littlefinger is even smarter than Tyrion.
Tyrion got himself out of near death situations by making people laugh, insisting that noone would believe his cock was really a dwarf's cock or simply demanding trial by combat. He was smart and most importantly he didn't give up untill the very last second.
What did Littlefinger do in the show? Give up immediatelly and beg, begging being a very shitty strategy throughout the show.
So if he was anywhere close Tyrion, which he should be, his death was out of character.
Also if it's not clear to some anons: I agree with you, just adding additional thoughts on it.
i never knew women liked CIA so much look at them all lusting for him in the comments
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this post is kino
He blows up the wall with wildfire. No need for Dany and Jon to have a magical excursion north to find a wight to show Cersei. The invasion happens and he departs to the Vale and intends to use it as a shelter while everyone else is overrun. He then uses Dany and her dragons in a feigned alliance to defeat the NK and take the throne. He up overcalculating his odds. Realizing he won't take the throne and will die, he decides to make his name immortal by blowing up kings landing and killing the wights and the city, a hero to all but those who actually knew him
LF would never find himself in a such a retarded situation. Period.
What do you think about the scene with Cercei (power is power) wasn't that a retarded situation? I see why she wouldn't kill him, but what do you think?
>His death should have been more like this:
>>Littlefinger rationally argues that everything he did was for sansa
>>Is then put into prison by sansa while they prepare his public execution
>>He escapes prison because of his contacts and spies
>>Arya finds him on the run
>>He tries to bullshit her
>>She acts like it worked, puts dagger down and comes closer to him
>>Littlefinger thinks he's save but then gets killed in a sudden move
this is somehow even worse than what happened on the show. incredible.
le le le
honestly just kys. its due
He is an attractive guy and women dig a bit of mystery and a dark side.
Also spoiler allert, almost all actors, even those portraying ugly characters are way above awerage looking.
For the autists I said most, not all.
Littlefinger making it to the end would mean he has to win. There's no endgame for him beyond sitting on the iron throne
dude just compare littlefinger in S1 to S3 even. he's basically a different guy. he was far more well spoken with barely a hint of the accent and mannerisms from S3 onwards.
You're literally making up reasons to feel victimized
Littlefinger was intelligent once and allegedly kept thinking about all possibilities. He had several very reasonable arguments to defend himself with instead of crying.
He's alive and will return in the last episode. The person that died was a faceless man Baelish payed when he realized Bran could see what he had been up to.
hes with aliens now
How are those two characters related?
Sansa's the smartest girl I've ever met.
*chuckles mirthfully*
>88
>Collage of pictures looks like a merchant
Christ, I need to spend less time on /pol/
now you've reminded me how wasted he was after S2. the 3 eyed raven stuff was especially rushed.
These are five different people that sort of look the same.
if fucking only. the show is dead with no redemption.
There is a real Aiden Gillen, and a bunch of fake ones.
The accent change makes sense. He was discriminated against because he came from a piss-poor region no one gave a shit about, so adopted a King's Landing accent to fit in. The more power he accumulated, the less he had to disguise his accent.
LADDAH
The story about Beria was made up after his death by his political opponents, brainlet
>the most smug two are at the bottom
fitting
Notice that this was also the season they killed off Olenna Tyrell. All the characters who actually planned and schemed are dead now because they're harder to write than big dumb battle scenes. Well, that's except for Varys but they somehow managed to castrate him a second time.
i suppose?
FUCKING CONFIRMED
>"Lady Sansa, you're breaking my heart"
he is a big guy for me haha
huh never considered that, i like it.
why the fuck was this never brought up? fuck this fucking show.
>cunning degenerates are cowards
you finally say something inteligent Yea Forums
I'm proud
god it hurts so much to laugh jesus
If that was the case, Sansa would immediately say that something wasn't right, or something, these writers are terrible and your know that.
Its hard to outwit a crystal ball innit mate
sidesh*
Fucking beautiful.
i shuppose stream is off the table ashwell
Beria cried because he was abandoned by Stalin, who he worshiped.