Writers claim it was a time loop

Until otherwise stated, I'm going to assume that Tony's snap didn't simply kill Thanos, but sent him, Gamora, Nebula, etc back to where they belong and undid their time travel.

yeah all the people that saw it are retards, its real simple

only nigs and spics watch DBZ

>wasting any amount of brain power discussing time travel in a movie
WGAF. The point is Cap got to go back to Peggy. They got their dance.

If past Thanos died in the present, doesn't that cause a paradox?

What about it moron? She said she needed the time stone back or her timeline is fucked by dommaru. She never said he didn't create alternate timelines. You think Loki escaping didn't create an alternate timeline? You fucking brainlet.

No, because they went back to before he went to the future so he would still be in the past.

Russo's said it did kill him.

changing the past does not create alternate timelines. Removing the stones from their continuity does. That's what she said. dumbfuck

The writers are idiots they assume cap stayed in same timeline then it would have created paradoxes.

No it doesn't trunks specifically says he can't change his own timeline. If cap stayed in his own timeline then all they needed to do was kill baby Thanos

What?

If nebula was killed in 2014 why was she still alive if it's same time line dumbfuck? Also no hulj explained they just had put stone back so she would have it back to defend against threats.

>Loki escaping
Loki was shown in prison in Thor's skip, and Captain America in New York mentioned to not worry, that he found Loki. He was re-captured, his on the run escapades just weren't pictured in the original Avengers,

Wrong it does create a patadox. Hence alternate timeline. Russian brothers are right. Writer just said in his head he saw it like that but that wasn't what happened.

Cap went to a different timeline, killed that cap and lived his life until that point but ten minutes beyond. Then he used his time jumper to go to his original timeline but ten minutes back

Thanos traveled to the future because he discovered they were stealing the infinity gems. Captain America returned the stones to their proper times to prevent divergent timelines, meaning past Thanos never left for the future because the stones were already back in the past. Basically don't overthink things.

You can't be this retarded. Rhoades explanation on killing baby thanos? Did you move some that scene?

Congrats. You only now realize why it makes no sense. I'm not trying to argue as to how it SHOULD be like you are. I'm simply stating what they literally said in the fucking movie. You are the only one that was too stupid to grasp that. Everyone else realized it made no fucking sense

They already created divergent timelines when Tony spoke with his dad and Loki escaped. Some argue that is going setup Loki tv show.

It makes sense retard. It's called alternate timeline. Cap lived in it and returned to main timeline just as trunks did in Dragonball. Ink is dry and you can't change your own timeline. It's not a hard concept.

The movie said and I quote we can't go back and kill baby thanos because it qouynt change our time line just make an alternate one.

The only part that is similar to DBZ is them going back to their own timeline when they went back to 2024 instead of going to the new timelines created when the stones were removed from continuity. 6 new timelines were created when they took the stones, but they still went back to "prime" when they went to 2024. The 6 new timelines were eventually erased when they returned the stones.

As for Cap being old is a simple solution. He returned all the stones except one, the time stone. It would be the easiest to put back since the Ancient One knows already. So he held on to the time stone, went back to the 40s, and lived his life with Peggy. Peggy died, THEN he returned the time stone, restoring the timelines. Then used the last of the Pym sperm to return to 2024.

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Yes, but those divergent timelines got correct by Cap going back. And the Loki show is supposed to be about things he influenced in human history. Also are they really shows or just mini-series?

Ancient One and Hulk address this-
Putting the stones back in their place fuses the timeline's back together

I'd rather go by what the Ancient One said rather than people spouting off a list of time travel movies

How did he bring nebula or thanos back alive with the Dragonballs? You can't be this stupid

>Austin: So, Basil, if I travel back to 1969 and I was frozen in 1967, presumeably, I could go back and look at my frozen self. But, if I'm still frozen in 1967, how could I have been unthawed in the '90s and traveled back to the '60s?
>Austin: Oh, no, I've gone cross-eyed.
>Basil: I suggest you don't worry about those things and just enjoy yourself.
>Basil: That goes for you all, too.
>Austin: Yes.

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Ancient one just said she needed stone back or her timeline would be fucked. The point was time heist not actually keeping the stones as hulk explained in the next scene to her moron.

He didn't bring them back to life, because they weren't dead. Lets say Avengers went back to 12 pm to fix the time line and as a result Thanos and crew leave for the future at 2 pm. If Cap travels back to 12 pm or earlier and fixes things, Thanos and crew never get the info about the future and don't leave at 2 pm. This preserves the timeline.

She never said hulk didn't create divergent timelines. She just said with stone gone her timeline would be fucked. How many times do I have to explain this to your dumbass.

Cap only put stones back movie never said he stopped Loki etc. Also modern nebula killed 2014 nebula. Cap didn't change that. Multiple timelines.

If cap can go back and actually fix timeline then they could have just killed baby thanks and didn't need to go to other timelines to get stones.

wouldn't correcting the timeline kill him? As he is dead in 2023?

The Ancient One has her own timeline. Let's call it timeline B. Timeline B without any sort of hindrances should follow the general course of the main time line (timeline A). However, when the stones are missing and shit's start being change, timeline B will drift off from its main course, possibly creating new branches from that new course as well. Which, to be fair, appears to be the case anyway because a lot has been changed. No more Thanos for that timeline and Loki is on the loose with an infinity stone while Captain America is impregnating Peggy.

No he put stones back because they need them. Otherwise he could have killed baby thanos and snap would have never happened since you are arguing you can change your own time line which Tony and banner say in the movie you can't

They killed thanos from a different time line. So it means that time line is safe from thanos. What do you not get?

The point was that a timeline without the stones gets super fucky. The problem doesn't come from creating timelines, its creating timelines that are messed up because there are no stones. The main timeline technically has the stones because they're "atomised" (stupid but go with it) so the timeline is fine.

What do you exactly think happens now that Loki got the stone in that timeline? Does that not create an alternate timeline? Do you think it gets overwritten?
The mechanics of timetravel make sense, but captain america showing up at the end makes absolutely no sense unless he used some other means to return to the main timeline.

Thank you this idiot doesn't get it. Simple the ink is dried if you go back to say save JFK president from dying you only help a different timeline that doesn't help yours

Captain America lived with Peggy in a different timeline then met with Tony in the alternate timeline asked him for time travel device he returned back to his own timeline to talk to them at the end.

>slacks
>checkered white shirt
>light Zip-up jacket
>khaki Eisenhower jacket

Why does every old man over 75 in American movies wear that?

Because old men wear that -my grandfather before he died at 92 wore that type of outfit and he was a military man to boot.

"The infinity stones create what you experience is the flow of time. Remove one of the stones and that flow splits. Now this may benefit your reality, but my NEW one not so much. In this NEW branch reality, without our chief weapon against the forces of darkness, our world would be over run"

You and and the rest of you faggots are dumbassses

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There's nothing confusing about that

But past!Thanos went to the future not because of the stones being stolen, but because of present!Nebula

>MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN, FUCKING BAAAASED

there was no stone to put back in the 40's though.

That didn't disprove anything I said you dumbfuck. She thought banner would take the stone and keep it for himself in his own timeline instead of returning it.

is that creepy joe biden??

Exactly they are misunderstanding ancient one just said she needed stone back.

I haven't watched Endgame (and never plan to, bless Thanos) but the only way time travel is possible is to make it a personal experience only to the one travelling time, and use theory of infinite universes. So regardless of what the Tardvengers do, there will ALWAYS exist the timeline where Thanos won and the snap happened. In that timeline, whoever jumped to the past will cease to exist from then on. The ones jumping to the past will now be in an entirely different timeline.
Of course this idea insinuates that there are infinite possibilities with infinite outcomes, so one's actions for the "Greater good" become meaningless since there will always be a timeline that exists where the good didn't happen. So the change will only exist for that particular consciousness from that particular timeline.

Here you go brainlets

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In the 2012 that Hulk, Cap, etc visit Loki escapes with the Tesseract and they have to go back to the 1970s to get it instead. There is now an alternate reality where Loki escaped from capture in New York after the events of The Avengers.

She knew that without time stone dommaru would kill them

Also of it was one timeline nebula in future would have died when she killed her past self.

Also this if it was the same timeline where did he get the shield? Thanos destroyed the old one

>>Writers claim it was a time loop
Link? Not seen this.

It makes sense to non retards. I cant imagine struggling to understand concepts that have been laid out pretty clearly

Trips died for your fucking post, show some respect and decency.

multiple timelines have been established by the doctor strange movie and IW. You are just dense af

She never said what DOESN'T create alt timelines, and the movie makers HAVE said that ANY action could.

No he returned the stones so that timeline wasnt left unprotected. The same reason he returned the hammer

>1970
They showed 1940s music , car , hair style.
These are visual queues to the relay the idea he went to the 1940s

he never said anything about making an alternate one. Nice try though

Shw never said that, retard. She just said the alternate timeline would be weaker against "darkness" if the infinity stone isn't returned.

This isn't open for debate any more. Word of God.

Nothing, I was speculating with that other nerd, apparently you didn't get that.

screenrant.com/avengers-endgame-time-travel-rules-writers-directors/

Its making fun of the fact the movie isn't going to give a fuck about rules and just have fun. It's not gonna spoil whats about to happen in the movie. Man you guys are so literal and autistic I wonder if you ever laugh.

Writers said Cap had two kids with Peggy Carter in this new timeline

no, they said her secret husband was always him because it was a loop
whereas the director said he went to another timeline and then went back to his own at the end

That comes across to me like the Russos asked for a script with alt timeline rules, but the writers did it preferring THEIR version. They act like Ancient One is THE authority, when she's saying what THEY wrote!

People assume Loki taking the cube didn't already happen. He could have always taken it, was re-captured off camera, then taken to Asgarde by Thor at the end of Avengers.

Your flow of time keeps going. When you go back in time, the past is your future and the future is your past. It can not be changed

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Cap still had the "time GPS" device.
Remember when Nebula and War Machine tried to "sync" them travelling back to the present, but Nebula didn't because she had a stroke? You have to manually use the device, which Steve could just do after spending his entire life with Peggy in the other timeline.

But then they would have known that Loki was going to escape and would have planned around that.

We dont know how much time passes at the end of Avengers when Thor and Loki leave. It could have taken them days to catch him. So they tried to get it before he disappeared with it. It was Tony getting hit by Hulk that ruined it. Easy for him to not remember Hulk being in that exact spot, especially when he was on the ground having a "heart attack"