Where does he rank among the top cinema villains of all time? I would say he surpasses Vader.
Where does he rank among the top cinema villains of all time? I would say he surpasses Vader
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endgame killed whatever legacy he had
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Top Movie Villains of All Time:
1. Joker (Dark Knight)
2. Norman Bates
3. Vito Corleone
4. Darth Vader
5. Thanos
>endgame killed whatever legacy he had
nope, just killed Thanos.
T w i c e
thanos was an awful villain he ranks at the bottom now pls end your thread :^)
2018 Thanos only.
2014 Thanos rushed his plan because of how confident he was in how he could win.
Took more years of patience and planning.
Still, he set out to do what he wanted and won just so he could retire as a farmer.
Based
I would say you surpass the faggot of the year
Thanos is alright, but he's no Terry Silver.
not great but not terrible
he would've been the best villain if it wasnt for endgame
>Universe Population is X
>Thanos changes the population to X/2
>The Universe population will still grow to size X at some point in the future
For a forward thinking man like Thanos, he should realize he's only delaying the inevitable. His plan only works if he also halves fertility rates. This may still lead to the universe population blowing up, but it will take longer.
This. Endgame completely fucked Thanos's character.
Yupp from a villain with a great back story, well developed to big purple man kill all
this
at least this thread is tangentially related to television&film unlike the deluge of /pol/ shit currently swamping the catalog
>Where does he rank among the top cinema villains of all time? I would say he surpasses Vader
>For a forward thinking man like Thanos, he should realize he's only delaying the inevitable.
Did you actually watch Endgame? He literally realizes this. That's why he wants to completely recreate the universe. His original belief was that the 'grateful universe' after the Snap would see the error of their ways and live as he wanted them to. Completely delusional, he didn't even believe they'd miss the other half because of how much better their lives would be. His defining moment in Endgame is realizing he was totally wrong.
>Vito Corleone
>villain
Don't expect memeing retards to understand this. They just make these threads because of butthurt and thinking they will tarnish Thanos's image somehow.
Thank you
Vader was and will always be shit.
Eat dick star wars fag
Already forgotten
Hey Thanos, what's up?
Lmao the same problem of overpopulation will exist in the new universe he is dumb af. If you really want to control the population it would require government mandated birth control.
are we posing "villains" who did nothing wrong?
1. Thanos
2. Vader
3. Voldemort
Rejoice ! For even in death, (You) have become...Children of Thanos !
98,765th villain.
cuz every attempt to make him human came off as transparent and flaccid and his battles lacked dynamics.
No one will remember Thanos in 10 years and no one will watch Marvel flicks more than 5 years after their release.
>Darth Vader
Just why
>Defending overrated, mediocre assembly line trash like MCU
Good lord
Yeah
He was very promising in the first movie. Endgame turned him into just another shitty 'ebil' Marvel goon. Shame.
Also kek @ him being more memorable than Vader. Get fucked.
>tarnish Thanos's image
>tarnish
Lmfao oh my god.. bro you cant be condescending while fanboying for superhero movies, they are unironically the lowest caliber of film, they deserve less respect than generic action flicks or silly kids movies, they are the ultimate soulless corporate trash
IDK the way they handled IW was fantastic but Endgame was really not nearly as good as the other russo brothers movies. It could have been so fucking kino
>Marvel
>Kino
Good one m8
The Villain from Old Boy
Getting the protagonist to fuck their own daughter is pretty impressive
Yeah bruh all these virgins watching marvel movie. Not like us chads watching [insert another generic movie]
Yikes
That reply was as sharp as your Walmart edition katana
Most memorable antagonist since The Joker. I'd say if AFI did another Top Villains poll Thanos could crack the top 50.
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Source on pic?
>[insert another generic movie]
Spoken like a true pleb
>Joker
It shouldn’t count if the movie fucking sucks.
>I would say he surpasses Vader.
I thought this was sarcasm. But honestly the more I think about it the more I agree.
How often is the villain the protagonist? (Vader was not the villain while he was protag.)
How often does the villain win and crush everyone for an entire film? And the film ends with the villain having won?
How often do normies say 'actually I think Vader had a good point' - never. How often do they say that about Thanos? Honestly I've heard it a few times now. My painter was telling me he thought Thanos had a good point just last week.
How incredible is it that normies were persuaded to be sympathetic of GENOCIDE of 50% of all life? Very incredible. THATS how well Thanos was written.
Joker was garbage. Batman's incompetence is what made him relevant.
He was just a autistic mental case that would be put down in the first 15 minutes if the movies by some one competent like the Punisher.
>tarnish Thanos's image
Endgame already did that.
that's Chernobyl-chan
You'd give him a 3.6?
Too bad it's true
Only to DCucks. I thought he was good with the very limited screen time he had.
>Joker was garbage
Thanos is even more garbage.
>He was just a autistic mental case
Thanos was even worse in this department. Thanos' plan didn't even make sense while masquerading as noble, and he had cosmic powers unlike Joker. The Joker doesn't need magic stones and pretentious "noble" goals to be compelling. He was just a charismatic foil to the protagonist. Thanos is shit compared to the Joker.
Infinity War made him iconic without a doubt.
I wouldn't say that endgame took that iconic status away, despite what some may think. He was simplified, but I think that was because he wasn't the main character like last time, so we didn't get to see his development on a very detailed level.
I hate DC. Endgame made Thanos a generic "kill everyone" villain with no charisma or screen presence. He was just a one-dimensional purple faggot that everyone kicked the shit out of for the whole movie.
darth was a good guy
>Whoa he kills half the galaxy because he wants balance
>Could've easily had made more resources with the stones
>Could've easily made more worlds with the stones
>"Just turn your brain off, nerd! Thanos is awesome because he kills people for the greater good"
Fuck normies that think this shit is deep
He literally kicked everyone's ass, and the only way he lost was with plot devices.
Watch the movie before shitposting.
He's a shit tier villain. He's clearly portrait as intelligent but somehow he thinks culling 50% of the population once will fix everything. I was on board with his master plan until he destroyed the fucking stones while I had assume before that he would keep doing this 50% snap every few generations to keep things in check but nope. He's just a retard in the end.
that's not the point, a good villain ain't good for his "powerlevel"
that just a autistic talkpoint for people like you.
Joker was shit.
What makes him great in your eyes? His autistic mumbling way of talkin?
He was only relevant because of how absolute shit and incompetent Batman was.
The was Batman and Joker act like play pals is fucking retarded.
Any vigilante would have shot Joker in the face and be done with it.
>He literally kicked everyone's ass
Thanos gets his head cut off in the beginning. Gets knocked down by Pepper Pots, Shuri and some other bitch's beam attack. Needed an infinite stone just to get captain marvel off and needed help from his ship to get Wanda off him. The whole movie is just him being humiliated everyone. And that wouldn't even be a problem if he was still interesting like in Infinity War. But he wasn't.
>with no charisma or screen presence
He literally bombed their base/mansion and then just sat outside and waited for them to come to him and get their asses whooped.
His charisma and presence was still there. We just didn't get to see the same character complexity that we did in IW.
Joker was great because he was a great foil to the main character. It has nothing to do with how he talks, the fact that you're reaching so hard for any negatives says it all. Thanos needs ebin magic stones to become powerful and execute a plan that makes zero sense. The fact that you're also comparing power levels between the two is retarded. The irrelevant bitch Wanda could have soloed Thanos, Mantis could have just put him to sleep as they cut off his arm, etc. The Avengers had INFINITELY more ways to get rid off Thanos but were way more incompetent compared to Batman.
He died in the beginning because he was weakened from using the gauntlet multiple times and he still was alive.
In the end it took all the infinity stones to kill him.
Him getting punched by people with no damage means jack shit.
>His charisma and presence was still there
In what scene? I'm genuinely curious as to how an adult male with a functioning brain will think that one-dimensional Endgame Thanos was good.
Endgame should have been all about hulk and Cap since IW was about Thor and Tony.
>Should have been main plot point that only hulk can un-snap because gamma radiation.
>Banner struggles to find professor hulk and then after unsnap cascades him with gamma radiation he becomes a super-hulk that is the only one who can lift the building rubble and save everyone - finally becoming a hero rather than a menace
>Captain america should have been the one to stop thanos at the end by grabbing the gautlet when it's on thano's hand just like in IW but the stark gauntlet allows both men to control the stones at once and Cap's willpower defeats Thanos' - visualized by kino fight in "soul world" where cap subtly grows physically larger as he gains belief and thanos shrinks as he slowly realizes that he's outmatched.
Then when thanos got dusted his kino look of resignation would have been him acknowledging cap's victory.
The other thing was the soul stone: they needed a better way to get it because the dumb sacri-fight between widow and clint was dumb as fuck. should have been about Tony needs to be sacrificed for Morgan and Peter's future.
He was during without the stones. Watch the movie.
Joe was only a foil to the hero because , Baleman was an incompetant retard, that got put down by dogs. And sucked as a defective.
I hope it was a got thread
>”you could not live with your own failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me…”
I agree he way better in IW but remember he was 5 years younger in EG so it makes sense that he’s not as wise
Of the 'decade of build-up' villains, he had the best end.
yeah but Joker had philosophies and shit that sorta made you go "huh".
***He's was strong without the stones
>he was 5 years younger in EG so it makes sense that he’s not as wise
isn't he literally hundreds if not thousands of years old? I doubt 5 years are going to make that much of a change to his persona.
Even in Infinity War he bled from one Ironman punch, he's not physically powerful like in the comics. All 6 stones got BTFO by Thor throwing Stormbreaker.
>punched by people with no damage
He was taking damage. People stronger than Tony were hitting him and dominating him. He was about to die from just Scarlet Witch alone. If it wasn't for Avengers not teaming up all at once to attack him (aka plot induced stupidity) he would be dead instantly.
>discussing the "powerlevel" of capeshit "villains"
Yea Forums as been dead for so long. fucking zoomers
I thought this was sarcasm. But honestly the more I think about it the more I realize how small your brain is.
Drax's knives do no damage, Nebulas sword does no damage, Ironman drops a huge building on him on Titan, no damage.
Hulks punches do no damage.
Cap and Mjonir do no damage regardless of the spectacle.
Thor with both hammers didn't do anything to him.
Very Powerful
>Ironman drops a huge building on him on Titan, no damage.
honestly that was fucking bullshit when just a few minutes later he bleeds from a rocket punch
i've seen worse
He's alright. Not a very deep character but Brolin's performance really sells it. Not as good as Vader, even if we just take the OT into account, on the virtue of his redemption alone.
What kind of dumb niggers honestly unironically think this? Endgame didn't change thanos at all. He was always a madman, and once he realized the universe wasn't going to be grateful for what he was trying to do, of course he decided to try and burn it down and start over. If anything, endgame thanos was better than infinity war thanos.
In Infinity War, Mantis's powers work on him. Dr. Strange could have just teleported her on top of him in Endgame and put him to sleep. One punch to the face from Tony made him bleed. All six infinity stones were USELESS against stormbreaker.
In Endgame, he was powerless against Shuri, Rescue and some bimbo's beam attack. He was dying just from Scarlet witch by himself, he needed to sacrifice his troops and get help from his ship. He also needed an infinity stone just to get Marvel off him. That long battle scene was just him being shitted on by everyone until he got dusted. It was embarassing. And the whole time he was a boring cardboard cutout villain with no personality or good motivation. Endgame ruined Thanos.
>"In all my years of conquest it was never personal."
>"But what I'm about to do to your planet... I'm going to enjoy it. Very, very much."
Not the exact line, but you get the point.
I found it interesting that this was basically the same thing as:
>"Fun is not something one considers when balancing the universe."
>"But this...does put a smile on my face."
Which we never heard in Infinity War, but remember they shot both movies pretty close together, so I wonder if that was an early draft of his line in Endgame.
Griffith is best media villain no contest. Even Infinity War and Endgame realize this as they lift a scene directly from Berserk.
>Griffith
>villain
dont you dare
>That long battle scene was just him being shitted on by everyone until he got dusted. It was embarassing.
He was a fucking madman in the final battle, and was seconds away from wining. I don't know what you're on about.
>soloed Tony, Thor, and Cap.
>beat Scarlet Witch using the resources available to him.
>solo beat Thor and Cap AGAIN.
>damn near snapped his fingers again.
>beat Captain Marvel (stronger than him) by being very resourceful.
>almost snapped his fingers AGAIN.
>the ONLY way that he could be beat was by Tony sacrificing himself.
Literally no one could beat him. Tony had to outsmart him at the end.
>Literally no one could beat him
cause the script demanded it.
While scarlet witch had him suspended in mid-air, Thor could've chopped his head off. That's just one of many ways. I don't know why Dr Strange came up with this bullshit one in million shot.
It changed thanos from a villain who tries to save the universe through an unpopular method to one who wants to destroy it because nobody deserves to live
Low. Only deluded kids that´ve grown watching nothing but capeshit think he was good.
For you
Based
Infinity war almost lost with 4 stones, endgame fucks everyone up with a double bladed sword
Nigger did you not watch the film? He realized that no matter what, even if he succeeds the universe will never be grateful, they will always be trying to undo his work. So he wants to start over, he's not destroying the universe he's just remaking it.
OK sure whatever noone cares but checked
And the logic ia that the universe will never reach the same point again?
Anyway we are not profesionals so it's pretty much just a matter of taste . I enjoyes infinity war thanos more than engame
no. i'm pretty sure he literally said he would start over with infinite resources. or something of the like
I am AMAZED in all of these threads how stupid people are. Or is it the same 1 or 2 guys being this fucking dumb and being told he's wrong over and over and yet he keeps posting the same stupid shit.
IW Thanos and EG Thanos
ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE
jesus christ how stupid can you be. The righteous Thanos gets murdered in his home while he is defenseless. The young thanos who hasn't matured or ever even felt the power of the gauntlet sees this and goes ballistic for revenge. They are not the same person.
when you literally take time off for revenge
based and redpilled
ENOUGH
In those 5 years his daughters betrayed him, he had to kill his favorite
He lost his entire army and his acolytes the chidlren of Thanos
He felt the power of infinity and was so fundamentally changed by this point that he literally makes extra effort just to not kill any Avenger
He grieves with Wanda after seeing her kill her boyfriend
etc
IW Thanos lost everything same as Thor lost everything except he lost everything in the span of like a day and guess what Thanos endured and became a better man by the end of it...Thor got fat and suicidal
Watch the fucking movie next time
>How often do normies say 'actually I think Vader had a good point' - never
Not true. People make this argument all the time. Counting prequels anyways. From Anakin/Vader’s perspective, he’s still on the side of the “realm” so-to-speak. The Jedi were not so he killed them in their cribs
mfw fun isn't something line would have still been better even in the context.
still think, to keep in line with his original plan, endgame thanos should have said he would (some how probably using the soul stone or something) calculate what half the life is in the universe (if that's possible) and destroy this universe then build the new universe with HALF of the previous universe's life. i also would have liked if he acknowledged this would probably kill him or at least put him in cerebral palsy phase like he was at the beginning of endgame as that shows he's willing to sacrifice himself like 2018 thanos was
why did they never use the comic con trailer line of 'death follows him like a shadow' sounded based af but they never used it again, prolly as it sounds too directly evil as opposed to somewhat justified/understandable
Endgame was disappointing, but I did really enjoy the scene of Cap walking towards Thanos's army.
He ranks in the cringe section waaay down the list
>overpopulation
Get a load of this faggot
Vader is still the champ, though Thanos is very iconic. We'll see if his popularity lasts through the next decade.
>of the past 2000 years
kek
this is pure autismo please shut the fuck up this isnt comicvs you idiot and thanos had a whole army fighting them not just himself
All of this would explain why at the beginning of EG he was found farming with no other plan.
But he's supposed to be one of the most intelligent guys in the whole universe but in EG he was just as any other Disney's villain.
I agree with this idea, actually. That would have been much better.
>I am going to repeat myself and ignore there are 2 different thanos even though you just explained it
So you are the troll thats been shitposting nonstop in these threads
kys dcuck
The mere fact of wondering that is an offense to cinematography.
I'm just another fag, anyway
Balanced, as all things should be
>Vito Corleone
>Villain
>Failing to comprehend the most overanalyzed film of all time
Infinity Wars is shit and Thanos motivation is shit. You have shit taste and should off yourself.
He said himself that hed make sure that universe would be grateful to him. So no
So did Thanos still ultimately win in all those other realities? Is that how the time travel works?
Could people stop saying shit like “Endgame thanks sucked”. Its was a 3h movie where thr protagonists were the avengers. If you want to give him as much depth as in IF youd have to give him more screen time which wiuld mean subtracting it from your protagonists or making the movie unbearably long. Yes thanos couldve used a few tweaks in Endgame but BECAUSE he was alrrady set up as a person in IF did the directors not focus a lot on him which is the right choice.
No it didn't you idiot. The fact that Thanos wanted to "save" the universe by halving its population only shows that he is insane and doesn't follow any logic. Only brainlets like you who didn't think the whole thing through believe he had any sort of justifiable motivation to begin with.
The bottom
Capeshit isn't top tier cinema
He saw posible outcomes not different realities
Endgame was shit and Endgame Thanos's motivation was shit. You have shit taste and should off yourself.
>The movie was bad and i will provide no back up to that claim
1. You didn't provide backup of your earlier claim. Burden of proof is on you.
2. Endgame Thanos is a one-dimensional cardboard cutout whose plan is to destroy everything. He's on par with an OC villain a 12 year old makes on deviantart. Endgame is shit and your taste is shit.
1. Agent Smith
2. Alec Trevelyan
3. Sheev
4. Hans Gruber
5. Hannibal Lecter
6. Jaws
7. Gollum
8. Tyler Durden
>villain
>save the universe
>save
You're contradicting yourself here user.
And "save the universe" from what? Overpopulation? Really, the entire universe? By wiping half of all life that will eventually grown back after a short duration?
>who wants to destroy it because nobody deserves to live
Are you trolling?
Thanos: "I thought by eliminating half of life, the other half would thrive. But you've shown me, that's impossible. And as long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be.They will resist."
He's referring to survivors like the Avengers who will do everything in their remaining power to undo his work (aka time travel). Stop talking out of your ass and rewatch the scene.
Thanos: "I will shred this universe down to its last atom. And then... With the stones you've collected for me, create a new one. Teeming with life, but knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe."
He doesn't believe that anyone deserves to die. He wanted civilization to thrive (because snapping away of all of a civilization's population is conducive for that population's success according to his dumbass ideation). He "realizes" that the survivors won't come to terms with what he did so he decides to destroy and recreate all life in his own image and likeness hence life that "knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe."
Yes in a way this is contradictory to his IW goal as its now obvious the he could have used the stones to better the universe in ways that did not even remotely involve culling half of all life.
You're with the basis that Thanos's snappening is effective or rational. Guess what? You're just as stupid as him.
Well Monk lady says if the stones disappear from her timeline then their doomed, implying multiple parallel universes right?
>I don't know why Dr Strange came up with this bullshit one in million shot.
Except he didn't. The writers did.
>Endgame Thanos's motivation was shit.
>Implying Thanos's motivation or plan in IW made sense.
This. He will be forgotten as a meme soon because lel comic book movies are retarded.
Actually no, saying a motivation in one movie is bad doesn't imply a motivation in another is good. That's called a strawman, it's what people with low IQ make when confronted with facts.
Endgame Thanos is even worse if you're looking for a rational motivation.
Hes pretty terrible. His reason for killing half the universe is because not enough resources, ignoring the obvious fallout from doing this. He then becomes one dimensional and muhhhh kill every1 now in endgame.
100s better than him.
>ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE
No they are not. It's the same Thanos! He found out he succeeded but the Avengers and time travel were threatening to undo his success so he decided on a de novo universe.
>"righteous Thanos gets murdered in his home while he is defenseless"
Righteous? Believing that you're righteous does not make you righteous. user shut the fuck up. And what about the (insert number) of DEFENSELESS Asgardians who died at the beginning of IW? Or the DEFENSELESS beings who got snapped at the end of the movie all because of some "deep villain" and his "justifiable plan"? Or the other DEFENSELESS people who died years ago when Thanos went on his intergalactic voyages to wipe half of all life from random planets?
It's amazing how stupid Thanos is but even more amazing how you people can't see that. Damn.
Tyler durden my man
Like the prequels killed Darth Vader's.
My bad user. I misread and instead thought you were agreeing with these retards that Thanos motivation or decisions in either movies made any sense.
You're right. Both movies suck.
>Vito
>not Michael, the one that ordered his own brother killed
Lame