How are they getting away with it? Is it because it's hidden in "muh Russia"?
Criticizing socialism
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Contrary to what this board may tell you, the average leftist isn't a fan of the USSR
>the average leftist
hasn't lived in a leftist country
The biggest issue is the English dialogue and Brit accents and the SJWism with modern female empowerment stuff. The other stuff about it anti Soviet is fine since bureaucracy of the era was a bit of a mess. Sometimes it can be a bit overly dramatic but it’s fair.
Stern. Stern but fair.
HBO does whatever they want bro. Most based network out there
This is like me saying you can't be right wing because you didn't live under Nazi Germany
>national socialism
>right wing
Quit shilling this stupid fucking show, no I need cares
I wonder how many of you know the name of this board...
It's bretty good but they'll shilling it too hard.
No one cares
this might come as a surprise but criticizing bureaucracy was even a thing for actual official soviet media in the actual USSR too
Why is he wearing an American flag pin instead of the USSR flag?
he's wearing a Ukrainian SSR flag
how is chernobyl a critisim of socialism
>entire population of the city, of 50,000 people evacuated in 3 hours with zero casualities
>600,000 liquidators mobilized within days
>28 casaulties in total, none of uninvolved people; and a quarter of them from things like steam explosions and helicopter crashes
>only effect on population a THREE PERCENT rise in lifetime cancer risk, meaning an estimate 11 additional cancer patients
wow so bad ebil communism
fukushima was literally handled worse
we shat more on socialism in Russia in the 80s than they do in the show now
Are you retarded? Fukushima was an "act of god", two devastating natural phenomena causing the catastrophe. While Chernobyl was caused by commie incompetence.
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THIS MOVIE IS BORING
yes, I said MOVIE
okay but the actual handling once the disaster had started was worse..
the efforts to contain Chernobyl were heroic and almost miraculous in their effectiveness
and if you look at the sheer resources expended, its definitely an argument FOR soviet socialism
Yeah of course. Bureaucracy was the butt of many jokes.
based. Burgers lose hundreds to hurricanes a year because they can't evacuate for shit. Meltdown like this would take them months
It doesn't matter what kind of "government" you live under, either way its going to be a bunch of oligarchs and their house servants running the show
>he thinks the USSR in 1988 was still socialist and that Gorbachev wasn't a class traitor
this.
>red flag
>anticapitalist movement
>workers party
>focus on ehtnic nationalism instead of internationalism
>lefties sperg out when someone brings this up
Literally this. Their containment of the situation was actually incredible.
They were also offered help from the US and Japan and turned them down. True chads.
>and if you look at the sheer resources expended, its definitely an argument FOR soviet socialism
>DUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
wow soviets cared so little about their people they used thousands of buses to evacuate the entire population, and then destroyed entire divisions and billions worth of equipment as well as specialist equiment like fucking MOON ROVERS to help contain a nuclear accident
rly makes u think
He's actually CIA
fukushima was just as avoidable.
chernobyl happened because they strayed from kgb vetted procedure
yes its not something that anyone else could have pulled off at the time...
six hundred thousand liquidators and thousands of afvs and helicopters they threw away in service of the population
Why haven't you bootlickers killed yourself yet?
and literally forced thousands of people at gunpoint to clean up their mess which was caused due to socialist incompetence
>deaths of most liquidators were not reported or downplayed
>about 150.000 abortions due fear of "mutations"
>ussr didn't bother to report the accident until sweden made public that there was something wrong
>>ussr didn't bother to report the accident until sweden made public that there was something wrong
tell me one reason reporting it would have benefited anyone, remember that not one single civilian died from the whole accident
Because it's hard to look at Chernobyl and the years of decisions that led to the accident without thinking that maybe the Soviet way of doing things wasn't the best
>NatSoc
>right wing
Looks like leftypol entered the thread
Unless you count the high risk of cancer
>nuclear reactor explodes
>"RUN INTO THE REACTOR AND COOL IT DOWN"
>5 minutes later
>"BOSS, I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD"
>all of those workers and families don't matter because they weren't civilians
lmao kill yourself tankie scum
Television & Film Board of Shitposting
>scale 5 nuclear accident
>biggest nuclear accident that ever happened
>half of europe got contaminated
>"why would we report that?"
frack off.
It's not. It's a critique of untruth. The writer literally said he was inspired by Trump and the 2016 election.
actually the risk of cancer increased only THREE PERCENT for the population only in the city surrounding the reactor
the same people that the government evacuated using thousands of busses in only 3 hours. the only people who needed to know were told, because they were evacuated...
Yea Forums - LOST
They don't consider it "real" socialism.
nice goalpost moving retard
To everybody in this thread: leave matters of the State, to the State. Instead simply enjoy the fruits of your labor and discuss movies en series.
this is bullshit, read the wikipedia article
what goalpost moving?
All human lives mattered in this situation.
Why are you downplaying how awful this disaster was?
Are you an irl communist?
you seem upset
If you don't get what the show is saying you're a brainlet
And 90 percent were children. It was totally safe guys
please tell me how reporting the accident on national and international press would have made less than 28 workers die?
But weren't the only deaths in Chernobyl due to the firefighters and others dying and NOT due to the radioactive deaths
>/pol/
>bunch of clean-cut aryan kids
user?
Trump was a populist vote the left couldn't match at the time. If that was his intent he is a moron.
HAHAHA
Oh wow and actual leftypol communist.
and he gets super upset over people calling him an anti-intellectual so he posts projecting shit like this
go lick more boots you biology/instinct denialist
Friendly reminder that everything is fine and you definitely did not see graphite anywhere
28 includes ARS deaths and helicopter crashes and the initial explosion and everything
>half of europe got contaminated
As if the radiation deaths were in the millions (it wasn't)
Are you actually defending the USSR here?
Why wouldn't they be honest about it?
goalpost moving again
stand and die on one misinformed point instead of jumping from one point to another whenever i make you look like a retard
>i make you look like a retard
lol
aren't you an actual communist or something
...
Ignore this leftypol faggot shitting up the thread and defending the USSR.
He's brainwashed.
Literally a Russian troll itt
next you're gonna tell me the Earth is flat or some shit, try and sell me some NYC real estate
No ones defending the commies here: just the pushing against the hysteria of nuclear contamination
Even the Fukushima one is already well below danger levels. The only reason why they are still removing the top soil is because the plebs think it's dangerous
>30km in all directions closed down for about 20.000 years
>wildlife in europe contaminated to this day
>"oh, that spike in cancer is just a coincidence!"
nothing happened guys.
Maybe the rest of europe could have helped them?
Maybe the rest of europe could have been prepared for the massive plume of radioactive smoke that drifted into their countries?
fuck communism
are you really this retarded? livestock must be fed special food to get the contamination out of their systems up to this day.
please tell me which european nation was going to contribute something even comparable to the 600,000 men, thousands and thousands of armoured vehicles, and a fucking MOON ROVER and helicopter brigades to chernobyl you fucking brainlet
o-k retard
ask the japanese.
maybe the rest of europe had better technology?
better advice
you're an idiot
the ussr should have told the rest of europe that a bunch of radioactive smoke was about to invade their borders
I'd be more surprised if a large American production portrayed socialism positively or actually made a case for nationalize industry.
Why can't I ghost post in Yea Forums threads anymore?
They did. Countries like Sweden, Finland, Romania and Hungary were alerting their citizens to take iodine pills the day after.
>the ussr should have told the rest of europe that a bunch of radioactive smoke was about to invade their borders
lol what a whiny bitch
tripfag is right. i was only 2 years old when this happened, but in austria people were adviced to do the same. my mother told me that we weren't allowed to play in the grass or use playgrounds for months, leg alone collecting mushrooms in the woods.
what fucking hysteria
nuclear craze is retarded
how much is the industry paying you to play the retarded zoomer shill in favour of nuclear energy?
So close :(
did you know that coal litteraly releases more radiation into the atmosphere per KW than nuclear lol
i'm not against nuclear energy per se, one should just not downplay the dangers of nuclear energy.
more people die in coal mine collapses and wind turbines and shit than from nuclear accidents
That's not really a good way to quantify it.
Oil spills for example are catastrophic and can't be measured in terms of loss of life.
Gay
>fukushima was just as avoidable.
yes its known that the japs could have avoided a FUCKING GIANT 40 METERS LONG WALL OF WATER SPEEDING AT 100KM/H TOWARDS YOU
fucking idiots
generators in basement
>Whoa, I can't believe an American corporation is criticizing the USSR
Nigga what? They may be socially liberal but huge media companies like HBO and their parent companies are absolutely opposed to economic socialism.
you know at least do some research first instead of answering back
fukushima daini its sister plant faced the exact same tsunami they were lucky enough that it didnt breached the containment building for it to flood all of the shit
nothing that happened that day can be attributed as "avoidable" nobody expected such a big ass quake or such a big ass tsunami
they were prepare for a 20 meters tsunami most of their cities had walls that big some of them survived becasue of them
its really impressive and I doubt any country would manage to mobilize that many troops in such short time
the soviets had complete disregard for human life but they got the job done
you think this was bad?
search a bit for the californian power plants and look where they are
now imagine when the cascadia quake happens (all things considering the subduction zone is way bigger than the one that gave the 9.0 quake in japan)
imagine the shit we will see
>the soviets had complete disregard for human life but they got the job done
is that why they evacuated the entire city very quickly? and destroyed billions of dollars in equipment to mitigate damage to the environment and population?
Sounds like the propaganda around the AK. based soviet poster
>the average leftist
The average leftist needs to be hunted down and killed
they had no alternative letting the isotopes running free will eventually cause a bigger international problem
if they had no reguard for human life they wouldn't have commandeered thousands of buses and evacuated the entire city...
>movie about a thing that actually happened
>hurr it's propaganda
The entire operations was a panicked scramble by people afraid of taking the blame.
The city was only evacuated when they were forced to do so.
The thousands of vehicles used had to be left behind and they horribly failed.
The moon rover and other robots got fried by the radiation so they sent thousands of poor conscripts to do the work with shovels and rakes.
The report that says only 31 deaths was made by the very organization that shills for nuclear power based on sketchy information provided by corrupt governments.
The whole thing was a cluster fuck of incompetence and scrambling. The low end estimate by the IAEA of 4000 cancer deaths was pushed relentlessly while the upper estimate in the hundreds of thousands was intentionally obscured.
I would recommend "Midnight in Chernobyl" as a good overall accounting of what happened.
You just know this guy got this pic from r/communism or something lmao
yes remind us how many people they send on chernobyl to clean it up ?
>dont like thing
>still advocate for it
Fission based nuclear energy is the only thing that can provide zero emission electricity on the scale required by the modern world.
>The city was only evacuated when they were forced to do so.
you dont say imagine if japan had to evacuate tokyo because the cloud was getting near it
>The thousands of vehicles used had to be left behind and they horribly failed.
what?
>The moon rover and other robots got fried by the radiation so they sent thousands of poor conscripts to do the work with shovels and rakes.
WHAT?
>The whole thing was a cluster fuck of incompetence and scrambling. The low end estimate by the IAEA of 4000 cancer deaths was pushed relentlessly while the upper estimate in the hundreds of thousands was intentionally obscured.
direct deaths vs being affected by it and showing signs years ago isnt the same thing
>the USSR is the left
Hurrrrrr
>Anglos LARPing as Ukrainians.
This is what keeps me from watching it more than anything else. Why can't they just hire Ukrainian/Russian actors and use subtitles?
It's because America is an anti-socialist shithole with capitalists being paraded as socialist to be hip and edgy. This goes doubly for corporate America, which this production is a product of.
You spineless bitch.
>namefag
KYS.
Well, you are right
>tripfag
>lefty is an attention whore
What made you think anyone gives a fuck about your opinion
TFW you're both retarded and only Jews and Nazis know what's going on.
Imagine a Nuclear crisis in Trump's America.
What about thorium reactors? Also, how about eugenics and birthrate restrictions to keep retarded plebs from having 100 kids?
>you dont say imagine if japan had to evacuate tokyo because the cloud was getting near it
Not sure what you are saying with this one. Tokyo is 30 million people, total evacuees in the exclusion zone was 350k I believe. Pripyat should have been evacuated immeditly, some people even tried to leave. But the KGB issued orders to cut phone lines, put blockades up around the roads, and shutdown the train to prevent spread of information and panic. The intentionally kept them there until forced to release them by officials from outside the area.
>direct deaths vs being affected by it and showing signs years ago isnt the same thing
being effected by having radioactive material go into your body causing mutations even years later, that would have otherwise not occurred, is a direct result.
Even some of the 28 that died lingered for weeks in Moscow before they died. Would you consider those affected by it, or direct deaths.
A Trump reactor can't explode fellow magapede
yeah it literally was. It's hilarious how much people are willing to hide behind "not knowing stuff"
Fun-fact: modern-day Germany's neoliberal/leftist coalition government has banned more books than what the Nazis burned.
Yes
Only after sweden called the commies on their bullshit and threatened to report globally that something in that area went wrong
considering the entire media is against him and only his followers really listen to him.. I don't think it would be anything like a socialist disaster.
I didn't vote for the record.
Since 2015 more people also died at the hands of immigrants than died on the inner-german border combined during the cold war
>Not sure what you are saying with this one
the first day after the first explosion the winds blew the contaminated cloud near tokyo
hell there were people livestreaming docimeters on youtube it was a bit high but not high enough
again being dead by directly exposing themselfs like the firefighters its not the same as those around ukraine and in ukraine that had mutation problems
there is a small confirmed percentage that they actually could pinpoint to be from chernobyl the rest were being put on the "most likely" scenario meaning they couldnt tell if it was caused by the actual radioactive cloud or it just coincidence
>not one single civilian died from the whole accident
Pretty sure that the clean-up crew members who melted from radiation poisoning weren't all state employees.
>it was
It in no way was right wing. Not economically, not politically.
>it's hilarious how much people are willing to hide behind "not knowing stuff"
Irony.
Im not going to say you are wrong
But japan knows they live in a intense earthquake and thus in a tsunamy and flood area. Why build the powerplant next to the fucking sea
They do sound good, but from what I understand they are still in the experimental stages, long way from being put into production. But the smaller 4th generation reactors are hear and potentially small enough to be put underground to power a single factory. I don't like nuclear however. It may have a statistically smaller amount of accidents than other power sources, but one accident can render thousands of square miles uninhabitable for hundreds of years.
Your second point if probably the better. People act like declining birth rates are bad. But they are only bad when you invite millions or poor people breeding like rabbits shitty up the country. The Earth can really only support like 2 billion people max at the quality of life the average American enjoys. When you think of the billions breeding in the middle east, India, and Africa increasing their environmental footprint, we are fucked. At least developed countries are pushing for cleaner energy, recycling etc.
They didn't. No other countries knew until a nuclear plant worker in Sweden tripped the radiation detector on his way to work. They didn't admit anything to other countries until pressed by Sweden on the abnormality. The contamination was obviously already widespread by that point.
so much for the tolerant right
>the SJWism with modern female empowerment stuff.
There has literally been none of that you dishonest tripfag
A nuclear disaster can't happen in the Soviet Union
>/pol/
>kids
I agree
>Nurse asks about iodine pills in a cuntly manner.
>Male doctor acts retarded and doesn't know about iodine pills or what they do.
Did this scene not rub you the wrong way?
My favorite right-wing Nazi thing was the "German Labor Front", which was a state-sanctioned labor union that coordinated with the NSV (welfare department) to give German workers paid vacations (Strength Through Joy).
It's meant to show they never even considered the possibility of a radiation leak. You're projecting your incel politics where it doesn't belong.
>It in no way was right wing. Not economically, not politically.
retards actually believe this
>I don't know what words are
dilate tranny
No it didn't you dumb faggot stop trying to attribute political undertones to everything
japan had defences in place for what they knew it was the biggest quake their country had seen
an 8.4
this is what they actually thought beecause of the size of the subduction area
plus what really made and practicly killed daichi was the fact that because the area springed back about 3 meters the actual seawall got lowered too by 3 meters (and the countless other cities that had the same defences too had the same fate)leading to an easy way in for the wave
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just to give you an idea each vent tower is 71m eters
Why wouldn't he consider that if he knew the plant is nuclear?
The iodine pills dont do shit for radiation
It would work in theory by making the body less susceptible to getting thyroid cancer, but i doubt the doctors really knew that
Why would the nurse know about iodine pills while the doctor is clueless?
The whole theme of the show is that the fucking soviets believe their shit can't fail
the northern most parts of Tokyo are about 90 miles away. Pripyat was less than 2 miles from the plant.
The plant operators at Fukushima deliberately released light irradiated steam from the reactors to reduce the pressure, it was controlled. Chernobyl unit 4 melted down burning in open atmosphere for days before going out. The two gas clouds are not comparable. Most of the vapor cloud from Chernobyl settled in the red forest directly east which is still lethally radioactive to this day. Part of that cloud settled on Pripyat. That gas cloud is the most likely cause of higher thyroid cancer rates in children from Pripyat. That is a direct cause.
Then instead of giving purposely vague disagreements you can actually explain.
Nazi Germany and the USSR both operated the same way. Labor unions had no real authority beyind what the state bureacrats allowed them. Some labor union officials were appointed as members of the bureaucracy, but didn't have total control.
You're just salty because Nazis were ethnocentric. That's it.
It is anticipated that there will be a fictional female scientist shoehorned in that knows there is danger before anyone else except the professor and the current victims
You do realize the nuclear power plant operators and fire brigade are civilians right? Chernobyl was a civilian nuclear power plant. All those deaths were civilians you fucking retard.
Because she was a lot younger than him and the use of Iodine pills to protect thyroid glands from radiation was a very modern development at the time, so she was more likely to have been trained in their usage.
>Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics, or tradition.
It’s not about soviets it’s about bureaucracy and fascism in general.
He's got babies to deliver wtf does he need iodine tablets for?
The doctor is her superior, and the main point they are driving home is that the superiors mishandled everything and were actually stupid.
What? She asks if they stock iodine, he asked they have iodine. She specified if they stocked iodine PILLS, and he expressed confusion because he didn't understand why they would possibly have those on hand.
these threads are approaching alita levels of cringe
This is your brain on "conservative" youtube e-celebs.
I'm not tolerant of treason, every registered democrat is a fucking traitor
>It is anticipated
Retards here were anticipating anti nuclear agenda in the first episode as well yet there has been none of that. In fact the shows creator is pro-nuclear power. This board WANTS there to be a political agenda shoehorned into the show which is why people keep making these zoomer tier predictions that don't come true. Why don't we wait for the episode to come out before complaining about this shit.
Well, there is a doctor for the radiation patients that did actually exist, and was the foremost expert in her field. Also, the architect of Pripyat was a woman who helped extensively with the cleanup and evacuation efforts. Those are real people, are you going to scream that they are SJWs shoehorned into the show.
Just wait until Monday when there’s new content to talk about
>social hierarchies
So the Kremlin bureaucrats? There was literally no public vote for their positions.
Very high IQ post
seething tranman
Lol wtf happened to him?
Mate I'm begging you please go the fuck away you're the worst tripfag I've seen in years and you keep shitting up all the Chernobyl threads.
It always amazes me how completely fucked the discourse around American politics is.
and we have three more weeks to go HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You ever had a job maygn?
I can't tell if you're a commie trying to use our memes, of if you're a right-winger with low reading comprehension.
even a 2 years old would be able to tell that if you see such a fucking explosion on a nuclear power plant something went terribly wrong
To the extent they gained their positions meritocratically and not through cronyism.
>wanting to kill traitors is a bad thing
You need to be executed
Yeah, the radiation spread across the continent and caused an increase in cancer. They should immediately evacuate Pripyat which is less than two miles away which gets the most concentrated of the cloud.
I would never scream over a tv show, just passing on the info to the sandy vaginas that wanted to know
>To the extent they gained their positions meritocratically
lol
Suck it up m8 bruv cunt pham lad
Yang's alright. He's more of le radical centrist.
four
if dubs you fuck off
Do you think republicans are bastions of the people then?
>wants to make Puerto Rico a state
Nah, he's just trying to pacify whites until he can secure a brown voting block.
Exactly.
Watch this
My bad, I thought you were implying something. Too much time on current politics makes me paranoid to certain language.
Well Trump isn't doing anything to stop the Latin American invasion, so we might as well get paid.
That's literally just your own value judgment and can't be proven with objective logic.
Dubs and I do a back flip into the reactor core
Yang is interesting. His 1000 dollars is actual total welfare someone is already receiving. People on welfare won't see a cent of that money. People not on welfare get the whole 1000 bukaroos.
they evacuated it by sheer dumb luck the day after right before the main radioactive cloud was blowing towards it
even with the fact that many fell ill because the levels werent that high it took the ukraine pm to shit on the svetlana or whatever her name was in order to start the evacuation
>modern-day Germany's neoliberal/leftist coalition government
if a party calls itself leftist but acts neoliberal then it isn't leftist, so that's a neoliberal/neoliberal coalition government
this is simple logic but apparently uncrackable to the average person
COPE TRAN
at this point it would have probably been a better choice
YANG GANG
Why would a doctor believe that more then an ordinary person (ie he should believe it can fail)
it's a brilliant way to extract more money from the poor (cause it will be financed by sales taxes which, being regressive, hit harder the poorer you are) and redirect it upwards, all the while portraying it as something else
The majority of the worst cloud settled in the Red Forrest which was dumb luck from the weather.
Der Linke and literal Stalinist/Trotskyist parties exist in Germany, just sayin. You commies are the biggest snowflakes ever when it comes to definitions of your meme ideology.
Ideally, the most qualified should rise to the top. I have no idea whether this was the case in the U.S.S.R. I suspect it was more true for NatSoc Germany though.
>russian shill
>yang gang
good to know
sticking to the script pretty well comrade
Someone tl;dr Yang for me, I gave up on /pol/ after the brexit vote.
Most of these plans end up fucking over the poor. Nobody will touch capital gains tax, which is were the real fight needs to be had.
I thought you were arguing that the Kremlin bureaucracy was meritocratic.
he's the new Russian prop-up to try and redo what they did with Bernie in 2015 and 2016
Did anyone here listen to the podcast for the first episode? I thought it was really good.
No, I doubt it was. Maybe in a few cases.
what does die linke have to do with the SPD, which is the party me and the guy I'm replying to are talking about?
The most intelligent candidate by far. When the debates start, he'll blow everyone the fuck out.
tl;dr - take the money from the poorest people who are hanging on by a thread and give it to pol neets
Yea it made me so much more confident that the rest of the series will be quality the shows creator seems to have a genuine respect for the people and the events that took place.
Stay upset /pol/zoomer.
No one gives a shit about mutts they’re all a joke.
>muh capital gains tax
If you took every dollar from every billionaire on Earth and split it evenly between the entire adult human population, then everybody would get about 2,000 dollars. One thing you fags can't comprehend is the majority of all wealth already belongs to the lowest-common-denominator, it's just spread-out among more individuals. If you wanted to have more wealth for yourself, then you should limit immigration and create exploitative tariffs to give your own labor class an advantage - but oh no, you fags can't have that, it's too nationalist.
stay in your general thread, 'tists
Then maybe people will stop buying stupid shit with their shitbucks like funko shitpop and cheap shitty cheeseburgers
>neoliberal NPC and commie NPC fighting each-other
reminder this is literally a Russian shill that hates everyone here
pic related is them
doesn't Andrew Yang die at the end of that movie?
unlike yourself right? you're not like those NPCs right? you're different
Yawn. Do you really still browse /pol/ in 2019? Lmao
What does Sneed have to do with feed?
Nah, Amazon is going to fight this tooth and nail. Price increases from a 10% VAT will be negligible, and the poor will definitely love an extra $1,000 every month.
Stay paranoid dumb mutt. Stop projecting your murdeorus brainlet tendencies in others. I only criticize things objectively and then call you out for being a dumb anglo when you are one.
Are you really still using a trip when everybody on Yea Forums hates you?
I'm gunna fill your feed with my seed
No one lives forever.
I didn't realize that all you had to do to keep the police from identifying a dead body was to take their wallet.
reminder that this is literally a Russian shill that hates everyone here.
They are trolling outside of Yea Forums, racism outside of Yea Forums, spamming, extremely low quality, off topic, etc.
Feel free to filter and report. They are being paid to be here.
>I only criticize things objectively
>>thinks a nurse asking about iodine is evidence of an SJW agenda
I'm gunna fucking murder you tripfag
Yes. Was everyone on Yea Forums supposed to be some kind of authority?
thats not dumb luck user the heavy elements cannot travel great distances anyway
unless there was a hurricane in the area
reminder that this is literally a Russian shill that hates everyone here.
They are trolling outside of Yea Forums, racism outside of Yea Forums, spamming, extremely low quality, off topic, etc.
Feel free to filter and report. They are being paid to be here.
ДABAЙTE ПAЧКУ B TEЧEHИE PЯДA HИКГEP
Ah, here comes the person trying to claim that immigration is the sole cause. It is one cause, as capital gains is another. People with money make more money by only having a ton of money. If you can't see how this snowballs into a serious problem of a small tenth of a percent of the population having control over half of a country's wealth, you are fucking retarded.
Maybe we should try raising the capital gains tax and reducing immigration. But then international cheap labor is another problem, so you would have to introduce measures to control supply chains. Stop trying to make it out to be a single issue. You probably believe everything republican tell you without scrutiny.
That wasn’t the issue lol. Who’s the real commie NPC now?
The real issue was the fact that she tells the HEAD DOCTOR about iodine and the doctor thinks she’s asking for it for disinfectant purposes rather than radiation protection purposes when there’s a nuclear power plant fire right outside their window. That’s SJW as shit and you can’t excuse that at all unless you’re a brainlet feminist yourself or a really really desperate anglo that needs to argue with me nonstop.
you're a moron
the poor won't get it because the 1k$ will be counted as already given in welfare/food stamps etc
>this propaganda
they literally wasted weeks denying this shit while civillians were sunbathing
>implying 3% across tens of thousands of people is not enough
you are a fucking Russian faggot shut up you shitsucker
They can either get their $1000 or keep their existing benefits. Most will probably take the $1000 though because there will be no strings attached.
how long did it take you to think of this dumb reply after seeing your "question" dismantled
>The real issue was the fact that she tells the HEAD DOCTOR about iodine
Faggot the show makes clear that people in upper tier positions were put in place due to nepotism of course it would make sense for a doctor blinded by commie ideology not to understand the need for iodine. In his mind there's no need for it as a soviet reactors cannot fail. STOP trying to attribute your incel politics where there aren't any. Sensitive zoomer nu-Yea Forums is so fucking cringe
So when are you telling me where you're from.
I feel like pedo paranoia is being pushed by the state to make adults weary of interacting with kids because the mere suspicion of being a pedo can ruin a person's life thus leaving children more open to state indoctrination
/thread
so literally no change, great plan
yang is like putting a new coat of paint on rubble
>You probably believe everything republican tell you without scrutiny
LOL, no, I'm a white nationalist who hates Zionists. I also listen to literal NazBol podcasters like Eric Striker and Borzoi Boskovic who are critical of capitalism.
>No ones defending the commies here
he is
Fuck you Randy
Never. Find out yourself if you’re smart and capable (but you aren’t).
You are becoming the Twain of Yea Forums
stfu liberal
t. real commie
i'm baffled that anyone thinks we live in a world not wrought with anti-communist sentiments. do you really believe the identity politics pushed by billion dollar mega corps is indeed a communist agenda to destroy western values? this is the pinnacle of western civilisation: promoting social justice through unbridled neoliberalism. marxist literature warns for this type of rabid consumerism and how the face of a system may change, but the fundamentals of the system remain intact and the context of oppression shifts to a new paradigm. most users on /pol/ hold such contradictory beliefs, i just don't know how one can say they fully support a western european system but then protest the results. this is the west you asked you you fucking cretins
yeah it's all about getting em young
retard
I am finding out, by asking you like a man. You're obviously afraid of me and what I'm capable of doing to you.
Everyone gets it, even those that don't qualify for welfare right now. It would be a huge win for whites.
based spuh trip
You know what I meant about coalition government, you autistic nigger. Leftists and Marxists have a voice in Government in Germany, while most of the Nazi Party platform is literally illegal. AfD has to squeak-by by saying it only wants to let SOME Arabs and Africans in on a regular basis.
See Pic related
Red forest is where the most contaminated cloud settled. Pripyat is right above it. The are similar enough in distance that is was dumb luck of the weather.
>modern female empowerment stuff
USSR was full of it. Not so much in 86, but still
>ur a dummy head
glad this tripfaggot needed everyone to know who was responsible for this level of autistic cancer
Ah, so you are retarded
British spy actually.
post pictures of your tits for the memes.
No, I'm literally acting in my own objective interests as a white male in the face of your anti- white male platform.
>Gets BTFO
>Stops responding
Reminder this tripfag is a sensitive zoomer looking for bullshit to complain about
Yeah I’m afraid of laughing myself to death at the thought of your fat mutt ass actually trying to use that brain to figure anything out
quads
you can just say "I'm an unfuckable faggot" user it's shorter.
these threads used to be good before /pol/ discovered them
user...
You do realize that acting in your best interest would mean not being retarded right?
Sure you are, so where are you from?
no, I don't know what you meant since "coalition government" means a coalition that is in government, and that's SPD, which isn't leftist
I still have no idea what you meant, but I think you're bullshitting now cause you know you were wrong
and lmao fuck off with crying about nazis as if they're equivalent to commies
what are the odds that you kill yourself?
Id say pretty high. Assuming you're not a paid shill then you must be some kind of psychotic/bipolar faggot. Looking at the sheer amount of posting in the last wee you have to be due for a crash.
And when you do get depressed next time, remember that everyone is rooting for you to kill yourself.
>mutts use jewish media to get angry at the world and also to pat themselves on the back
Lmao the jews have you good
the average leftist is under the age of 16 too.
thats wrong user
/pol/ would be interesting if any of the users on there were actually educated. this doesn't mean they aren't intelligent but that their thoughts are logically flawed, lack credibility and bear little cohesion. they've substituted their entire political and moral views with an imageboard that tells them what to believe via macroimages and severely outdated sources.
How many of those states are barely held by Republicans gerrymandering? Most of the population growth is probably due to Hispanics, a good portion of who vote red.
>Russian commie telling me what my interests should
Tell me how based and epic niggers are in your frozen suburb. I'm sure you see thousands of them on a regular basis.
literally posted from st petersburg
what is up with you cucks and your strawmen propaganda?
like if you need pictures of weirdos to justify yourself, you're clearly already doomed to die a virgin aren't you?
Nazis and the USSR had a similar economic system and workers benefits (NSV, etc.). You're the fags that cry about how ebil and capitalist Nazi Germany was, as if it was run by Reagan or something.
Hey mutts, both of you are embarrassments in the world. Your country isn’t even a country anymore and you’ve already collapsed.
>Most of the population growth is probably due to Hispanics, a good portion of who vote red.
they're all niggers retard. they societies and governments and corruption and suicides and everything else are much closer to african nations than western nations.
And blaming niggers for your shitty government policies is literally the same thing that they do.
Lol keep fighting with everyone in the world. I know my target. You don’t.
>t., /leftypol/ tranny who's mods can't decide on a cohesive narrative and ban people for saying bad things about Mugabe
too much of a brainlet to understand political thrillers.
straight away this picture reeks of delusion
>everything they believed in was built on air and provable lies
a most curious statement. i wonder what he was talking about
Every single time I have challenged someone on /pol/ to actually debate the validity and merits of NatSoc they always sperg out and call me a kike every single time. NatSoc is just as big of a meme ideology as Communism most people I find who embrace it do see out of a desperate sense of being different and unique above anything else.
sure they did, a. wyatt mann said so in a webcomic
the original soviets weren't fans of the USSR either. most recognised that they had failed to create a communist state
Bureaucracy problems was and is a perpetual problem for Russia, no matter how they organise themselves
Please don't equate modern """communism""" with the USSR. Both are terrible, but the image of communism american lefties have is insulting to the real thing
You're both niggers.
user, that map is from a 1996 CIA estimate of a single radioactive element. It has the Chernobyl plant star to the northwest of Pripyat when it is actually to the southeast. That map is horribly outdated and inaccurate.
Then it's inaccurate
i have no idea what you're talking about but keep being an ideologue since you seem to find fulfillment in it
>Hey mutts,
Why do you project so much?
> both of you are embarrassments in the world.
WHY DO YOU PROJECT SO MUCH?
>Your country isn’t even a country anymore
WHY
DO
YOU
PROJECT
SO
MUCH?!?!?!?
>and you’ve already collapsed.
wdypsm?
This show is pushing no modern political agenda whatsoever how you faggots manage to turn it into a political debate is fucking retarded.
How?
...
discussing politics in any form on Yea Forums is utterly utterly stupid.
thats a map being made AFTER measurements had being made from iaea
there is a difference
true
this
It's true, there are barely any leftists or libertarians on /pol/ because they lost the battle of ideas.
>Things that never happened.
>i have no idea what you're talking about
Exactly. You're just a typical neoliberal NPC who hand-waves /pol/ because you're afraid of your narrative being challenged.
cиcьки или гтфo
>Things that never happened.
lmao sure dude NatSoc is just a big a meme ideology as Communism the fact you think there's some sort of inherent truth behind it is pretty funny. Why don't you go and read Mein Kampf instead of larping?
It's also why the left has to resort to censorship so much.
not them but /pol/ is literally just Russian propaganda and has been since 2014. If you uncritically consume messaging and scandal bait coming out of /pol/ you're being abused.
>It has the Chernobyl plant star to the northwest of Pripyat when it is actually to the southeast
did you not read this part? The map actually supports what I am saying when you move the position of the plant to where it really is.
Doctor should know the uses of iodine for radiation, working backwards from its use in the body. Its also unlikely for a random doctor not to believe the nuclear plant could fail
NatSoc is in my objective interest as a white male in the current political climate.
neoliberalism = let nigger capitalists rule over you
communism = let nigger communist bureaucrats rule over you
Both of those options suck.
americans aren't anglo culturally or ethnically
>banned from the_donald
>banned from conservative
>banned from kotakuinaction
>banned from tublrinaction
lol funny meme.
yes, I saw your little talking points the last time you posted them and they're dumb as fuck
let's take two things that might look similar if you squint real hard and portray them as identical
nazis also went to the movies, so modern day america must be a nazi country since people go to the movies!
What makes you think NatSoc, in its original form, is pro-white? It is very specifically a German ethnic supremacist movement.
b&r
>posted from st petersburg
nice argument comrade
you nigger shills get called out so much you made propaganda for it!
cиcьки или гтфo
You niggers are so predictable.
That's like saying the shit that happened after Katrina had no political overtones. This is a clear criticism of obstructing the truth through propaganda. Which is the point I'm trying to make by making this post. All the drama of the show is based on trying to cover up the truth to make the state look better. How the fuck do you post here and not know simple fucking things?
It has parallels to the thought crime era we live in now with SJWs. How we can't call trannies mentally ill. How we can't say that some minorities break the law a lot. How we can't talk about the truth because everybody is afraid of feelings.
>/pol/ is literally just Russian propaganda
It's sad that you neoliberals can't see that we legitimately hate your policies and don't need a Russian to tell us that. I mean, you and your pet niggers keep telling us how much you hate white men, so what did you expect?
Literally a vast overwhelming majority of money/shilling is spent on Anglosphere neoliberal/neocon/leftist politics, while most of the government and corporate leaders try to censor nationalist rhetoric (Facebook, Twitter, UK speech laws, etc.). The idea that Russians are promoting nationalism in the West, or that they have any significant power to do so is ridiculous.
the sad thing isn't that you're such an obvious /pol/ fake, it's that there are people dumb enough to fall for it
It doesn't have to be pushing an agenda to be relevant to current politics you retard.
Is that you Rachel?
>What makes you think NatSoc, in its original form, is pro-white?
NatSoc is an ideology that can be applied to any country/group.
So just because of this one time USSR's typically totalitarian disregard for human life has worked out well we're supposed to forget dozens of times it backfired? Иди нaхyй, кpacнoжoпый.
ITT: commie NPCs and neoliberal NPCs calling each-other Russians while white nationalists laugh at them.
imagine being such an ideologue that you equate spending massive resources to save a population of people from a nuclear accident as 'disregard for human life'
You're right I'm just sick of everything being turned into a fucking political debate. I just wanna shoot the shit about radiation with people not shitfling more bullshit about modern politics.
>white nationalists
Just as cringe if not more so than the groups you just listed. You're all cringey faggots as a matter of fact
Wait, so what was Putin's master plan when he helped a hardcore Zionist cabinet get into power and bomb Russian allies in Syria?
Lets just keep this as /RBMK/
I hear ya. Did you know the workers got taken to a hospital in Moscow and literately shit out their liquefied intestines while their skin rotted and they died. Shits horrifying. I think the show will do a good job of showing all that based on what I have seen so far.
>muh individualism
Now's not the time, bro.
>literally posted from st petersburg
prove me wrong
yes you're very used to being accused of being literally what you are. Your handlers made a nice meme for you and you shared it on your tranny discord. You NPCs need to get your messaging lined up though there are now redundancies in the thread.
>It's sad that you neoliberals can't see that we legitimately hate your policies and don't need a Russian to tell us that.
newspeak and admitting that you're a russian shill. DOPE.
> I mean, you and your pet niggers keep telling us how much you hate white men,
Hate you but you're not white.
>so what did you expect?
Paid niggerslav shills turning everything into how they jerk off to tranny porn? Because that's what happened LOL.
>Literally a vast overwhelming majority of money/shilling is spent on Anglosphere neoliberal/neocon/leftist politics
Nope. Nice whataboutism Ivan.
>while most of the government and corporate leaders try to censor nationalist rhetoric
yeah it's nigger tribalism memes being pushed by bad actor shills like you. You're an impotent cuck smearing your shit on western culture. You should kill yourself.
>The idea that Russians are promoting nationalism in the West
They are.
> or that they have any significant power to do so is ridiculous.
Keep shucking and jiving nigger.
How much you paid?
>posts another cringe picture
really not helping your cause bud
Yea nah I'm not 18 anymore so no thank you.
I also think the radiation fallout location is relevant since they showed it in the first episode headed towards the town. I loved how they showed the trees turning red from the could like they really did. Nice little touch.
I can't wait for the episode about the miners who had to tunnel under the plant in order to cool the core IIRC.
Russian's can't own these.
seriously these are ALL just Russian shills.
Seriously go back to R*ddit.
oh so you're just going to burn in hell lol. 9th circle too. Where the traitors go.
Now post pics of your nips faggot.
>prove me wrong
it's simple, no neoliberal worth their salt would accept being called neoliberal, since it's practically a dirty word right now
and they certainly wouldn't say "nigger" in practically every post or mention russian bots/shills in every post, the first is racist and the second over-the-top
you're a /pol/ fake, probably done by the guy that is "replying" to you
Post pics of your tits nigger
That will be horrifying. I was reading Midnight in Chernobyl after listening to the podcast. Turns out, they didn't use the cooling device, so they just filled the entire cavern with concrete. Completely useless.
>GamerGate was actually a Russian psyop
Do you realize how clown world you sound?
zoomer "banter"
I hope the elephant's foot will be featured as well.
this is the Russian.
Can't prove me wrong LOL.
>it's simple, no neoliberal worth their salt would accept being called neoliberal,
NO NEWSPEAK LABEL THAT I ACCUSE EVERYONE ELSE OF BEING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY SELF-IDENTIFY AS.
LOL what a fucking lunatic.
>since it's practically a dirty word right now
and they certainly wouldn't say "nigger" in practically every post or mention russian bots/shills in every post
You're literally a nigger and you cannot prove me wrong.
> the first is racist
nice virtue signaling you nigger shill
post pics of tits
>mention russian bots/shills in every post
nobody is ever talking about "bots" except for Russian shills. They LOVE doing "pfft bots" because it makes it sound more farfetched than "nigger gooks getting paid shit to be assholes on the internet."
>probably done by the guy that is "replying" to you
nope
It's true. All of it.
It was a radicalization campaign to turn you into an unfuckable reactionary faggot. Did it work?
DID IT WORK?
My point is Nazi Germany was a slightly more ethnocentric version of Norway, and you commie fags try to portray it like it was the late-1800s United States.
This is what I am looking forward too as well. They had to dig around for weeks only to discover the core was completely empty. Then come upon that radioactive mass. The detector hit max and burned out as soon as it entered the room.
your point is of course wrong
"slightly more" ethnocentric lmao
the term privatization was invented to describe the policies of nazi germany you utter fucking moron
I've had 5 GFs in my lifetime. I hate you niggers because of your own actions, not because I saw a Russian meme.
PMS harder, Rachel.
Closest thing to a real life medusa as we will ever get. I think it only takes something ridicilous like 30 seconds to get lethal amounts of radiation around it.
That's literally from a heavily-edited wiki article written by commies and salty Jews. Nazi Germany privatized a few industries, but nationalized others, and mandated tons of safety nets and welfare for the working class, and outlawed usury. Oh yeah, they also made the capitalist/libertarian/monarchist parties illegal.