"Dragons"

dragons have 2 legs and 2 arms / 4 legs.
these just have two legs.

>I argue about the taxonomy of mythical monsters on the internet.

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"nerds"

They meant to call you faggot.

According to who?

people who can differentiate between a dragon and a wyvern

They're asexual, they just lay eggs

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le rape faec

>I argue about the taxonomy of mythical monsters on the internet.

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They identify as dragons, shitlord

Sick dnd knowledge bruv
*rolls d20*
*20*
U ded yo

Except that has nothing to do with DnD you astronomical shitlord.

So you just got BTFO

It's called outside. You should look into it.

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Seriously, WHO set up this rule? Randoms? Or Tolkien? Or some fantasy writer from olden days?

It pretty much does, unless you also want to get into heraldry which is absolutely fucking retarded considering it has things like sea horses and lions with their cock out being different from lions with their dick in

Dungeons and Dragons

Tolkien lifted all his shit from Celtic culture breh

A'ight m8 gurps then
*rolls d20*
*20*
U died again yo

source?

Where's his massive dragon dick wtf

>REEEEEEEE YOUR DEPICTION OF THIS MYTHOLOGICAL, FICTIONAL CREATURE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM MINE
What did he mean by this?

>OP
He is actually faggot

Wyverns were depicted in heraldry as winged serpents that can't breathe fire. A modern depiction close to wyverns would be the mounts of the nazgul in LOTR.
> Flying lizard that breathes fire = dragon
The depiction of a four legged + two winged dragon is just unrealistically and not very aerodynamic. Dragons are undeniably reptilian in appearance and there are no hexapod chordates in our world. Which means all vertebrae after fish in the evolutionary ladder has four limbs, therefore 2 wings and two legs like birds.
Get over it. This wyverns rule is ridiculous. If dragons existed somehow, they would all look like that.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindarin
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Arthur
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Dragon

based

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>"frog"
They are actually toads.

>he made up ONE fictional "gnomish" language based off celtic
>king author slightly relates to aragorn
"all"
In reality, like 1% then

have sex

I like LOTR but I won't pretend it isn't a retelling of old stories

FUCK OFF DRAGON FAG

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NEITHER DRAGONS NOR WYVERNS EXIST YOU FUCKING SPERG

monster hunter

Thought so. Then I'll agree

A "dragon" is just any flying dinosaur that can shoot fire out of its mouth. And possibly talk.

It's called my cock, you should suck it.

>B-but Dungeons and Dragons said that Dragons HAVE to have 4 legs!!!
Hate this stupid meme so much.

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Present it

Get the fuck out of here with that invader banner lad

Flying is optional desu

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>The Chad mythotaxonomist

>I argue about the taxonomy of mythical monsters on the internet.
>And I post reaction images with lots of compression artifacts.

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Do you not feel exhausted just thinking of this old argument?

Wyverns are more aesthetic than dragons that's why they get used more. Show me one aesthetic dragon. You can't.

I never understood why they would talk...
They are animals.

>They are animals
They're supposed to be super smart 1000 year old 8d chess players in stories where they talk

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Reptiles and birds don't either.

Dragons smiling...

What a ridicule thing.

Hold on while I take a picture.

They're sheathed

Drakes don't breathe fire

here you go. The reason why wyvern seem cooler is because they dont talk. Real dragons can talk and are highly intelligent on the level of humans and beyond.

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>Celtic
Smaug and Glaurung are clearly based of Fafnir you daft twat. Gandalf is based on Odin. The elves and Dwarfs are Alfar and Dokkalfar. The pantheon is Christian as is the fall of numenor.

They're also total fuckheads

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It's mostly telepathic

Beowulf

>This redesign was done in under a year

Worst decision ever

Sixlimbed dragons look fucking stupid.

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if you're not gonna respect the rules about dragons then don't call them dragons
How hard is that

>Wyverns are species of animal that lives in Sothoryos, kin to dragons, although they do not breathe fire.[1][2] Wyverns have great leathery wings, "cruel" beaks, and an insatiable hunger. They are more ferocious than dragons, if smaller in size. Wyverns are called "the tyrants of the southern skies", and are one of the reasons why Sothoryos is thinly populated.[2] Septon Barth wrote about wyverns in Dragons, Wyrms, and Wyverns: Their Unnatural History,[3] and speculated that Valyrian bloodmages may have created dragons using wyvern stock.[2]

>monster hunter

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>winged dragons
Gay

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Whatever you say

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>real dragons
D&D is not reality, autismo.

A dragon with 4 legs is powerful in presentation, more able to interact physically with the world beyond being a monstrous presence, and doesn't look like a bat with a long neck and a tail. A dragon clomping around on its forewings is aesthetically displeasing, ungainly, and undignified, with the head held close to the ground. A biped with winged forelimbs is mundane in its derivation. They are more otherworldly and fantastical, the perfect symbol of fantasy, a creature that spits in the face of our laws of reality by merely existing.

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Based GRRM btfo'ing autistic retards.

They're not wyverns either. Wyverns have venomous stingers and are a lot smaller.

>werewolf
>it's just a man with a beard

Do they ever rule anything?

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It's as correct to call wyverns dragons as it is to call chimpanzees humans.

Depends on the setting, in Shadowrun they basically own the world

There are no universal rules regarding this matter, only general perception of a flying, fire breathing lizard.

Wrong. All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns, see squares and rectangles.

dragon spergs BTFO

Six limbed dragons may even look cool, but they fail at any biological realism.
For the extra pair of limbs, that is the wings, the dragons would need an extra set of rotator cuffs and shoulder blades, a new set of pectoral muscles, another pair of deltoids, dorsum latissimus and trapezoids... Tell me how all of these new anatomical elements would fit in the torso of a creature that was very clearly designed by nature to be a tetrapod?
There simply isn't space in its body to accommodate the extra muscles and bones a pair of wings require because, guess what, its body is prepared to have 4 and only 4 limbs, not 6.
t. Anatomy student

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Best dragon in any media in the last 20 years coming through.

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Sure, however the reason often cited for using the wyvern style design (realism) is often a load of shit though. They claim to be concerned about the realistic anatomy of the creature, but then why don't they ever talk about why every dragon, even the so called "realistic" wyvern based ones have wings that are too small to lift their body? Remember that little thing called the square-cube law?

Yes, yes, well done, George, well done...
HOWEVER

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>filename
holy baseola

>Could tie itself in knots
That's basically a Chinese dragon though, which western dragons don't fit either

honestly nothing can beat grigori, best design/voice/fight and overall presentation

Wyverns are dragonlike, but not dragons. "Dragon" refers to a specific monster. It isn't an umbrella term, otherwise dragons would need another name, which they don't.

Dungeons & Dragons is not an authoritative body on imaginary creatures. There is no taxonomy of dragons or whatever the fuck because none of these creatures actually exist. There is no true set-in-stone definition of what counts as a dragon, or a wyvern, or drake, or a serpent, or a basilisk, or any of these mythological monsters.

There are massive differences in what dragons look like, both between cultures and even within the same culture. It's like saying there's one strict definition of "giant" and any giants that don't look like giants from greek mythology aren't real giants. Are we going to say chinese dragons aren't real dragons because they don't look like medieval european ones? That roman dragons aren't real dragons because they don't look like welsh dragons?

Some dragons have four legs. Some have two legs. Some have wings, some don't. Some live on land and some live in the water. Some have lizard-like proportions and some have serpentine proportions. Some breathe fire and some don't. Some are magic and don't aren't. Some are intelligent and some are just beasts. They're all just different types of dragons, but still dragons.

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Wyvern are dragon with no arms.

bitch

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The realism component breaks down when you realise the second you have a flying armoured reprile, physics takes a business trip to a separate reality.
For a dragon in the style of GoT to fly, it would have to
1) have the bone density of an anemic 3 year old
2) have incredibly powerful flight muscles
3) have as little unnecessary weight (such as scales) as possible.
The design of GoT dragons is not realistic in the slightest.

I'm going to correct myself here. Dragons are also called wyrms, so I suppose "dragon" could be used as a more general term.

Not really.
Norse mythology, which Tolkien based his dragons heavily off, had them as worm like. It's where wyrm derives its relation to dragons.

>when your dragon is simultaneously the traditional image of a demonic and powerful beast, and is also an an angelic being sent forth by god to fulfill a higher purpose

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wyverns have poison barbed tails

And you would rather have a 6 limbed dragon that on top of being unrealistic, is completely not aerodynamic? 6 limbed version is inferior under every perspective.
At Least a 4 winged dragon resemble the flying vertebrates we see on our planet and could in theory take on flight depending on its proportions. The 6 limbed dragon could never fly unless its wings were 5 times the size of its body, like a butterfly. You want to see a flying realistic 6 limbed dragon? Check Cameron's Avatar, not your d&d cards.

>you would face me then? 'tis the fools choice, Arisen. but better fool than craven.

>Dragon refers to a specific monster
Maybe in Dungeons and Dragons. Dragon has always had a broad range in culture.

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Regardless of the terminology, the two legged, two wing design is a shitty trend and should fuck off.

There are varying degrees of realism. You're making a false equivalence. That sort of compl,aint is on the same level as complaining about comic heroes being super strong but not having the added muisculature to physically make that possible. Nowhere near as important as what that user is talking about. Taking a tetrapod body plan and sticking on an extra set of limbs looks ridiculous.

>that fucking retarded neck

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Lol

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It's the best depiction of a dragon. It's actually what flying reptilians would look like if there were any around. Your fantasy model is shit and makes no sense anatomically and aerodynamically.

It's called sex, you should try having it

>Take up arms, Arisen... For my kind do not heed the toothless.
GOAT Dragon

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'Neath a faulted sky; cross loamless plains, and watered blight Ah! Where gone those days, once Glory shone so bright?

Dragons are magical creatures, m8. Most of their attributes are impossible in real life. Six limbs doesn't stretch the suspension of disbelief any further than fire-breathing and flight.

It's not a matter of moving to a lighter shade of gray; it's a matter of proposing a standard of white that simply isn't applicable. Four-limbed dragons don't make any more sense than six-limbed ones, because the only standard by which they'd make more sense is the standard of real-world biology, which flatly does not apply to the creature. Fantasy dragons often can speak and are as intelligent as humans, can breathe fire, on top of being powerful and heavily armored. Changing the number of limbs in some false crusade of realism is retarded, because at least a six limbed dragon can manipulate objects and isn't fucking worthless once grounded.

wat this

The dragons of got have bones and teeth rich in iron, too. They are much heavier than they would seem.

Those are flying wyverns.

I've killed many with my hammer.

A dragon telling the laws of physics to fuck off in every respect is significantly more impressive than an anemic attempt for the poster beast of fantasy to be realistic.

Dragons
>What is your purpose here, Arisen? If you sought to live you had naught but run and hide yourself away. But then, tell me, child of man... what does it mean to live in truth? To wage war against the passing days? To pray to the unseen for a few breaths more? To raise grand cities from stone, and spawn new life in turn? Mankind has done this, yes, and more. But is the tapestry you weave truly of your own design?

Wyverns
>*ROAR*!

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it's draco

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Literally everything you just said is wrong. There is no specific definition of what counts as a" true dragon" because dragon is a fairly universal concept across many different cultures and eras of human history. A dragon is just a broad category of mythological lizard/serpent-like creatues. The specifics can vary wildly, but they're all still dragons. Just because Tolkien described the dragons in his fantasy novels as one particular way, or just because D&D has specific subcategories in their universe, doesn't make that some statement of fact of the concept of dragons universally.

People that do the whole "muh wyverns" shit are just D&Dfags who sperg out that the entire world doesn't conform to their boardgame from the 1970s

Everything you say still applies to a 6 limbed dragon. Under every perspective, the hexapod dragon would fail even more miserably than the 4 limbed one, and on top of that, would look stupid like you just randomly stuck a pair of wings on the back of a lizard without any consideration towards anatomy and functionality. You might as well defend a flying horse over it.

Thanks friend :3

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Centaurs, minotaurs, pegasus, and many other mythical beasts and creatures never suffer through any recourse to scientific analysis...so what's the deal with dragons? They are the cornerstone of fantasy, practically one of the major symbols and icons of it, why in the hell would you hamstring that by imposing the upon them the limits of realism? That's not a dragon, whose mere existence inspires awe, that is just another animal.

>Who says those aren't dragons
>"ummmm...dragon knowers!!!!!!!!!!!"

Wyvern =/= Dragon crowd are actual retards.

retarded as fuck

>Seriously, WHO set up this rule? Randoms? Or Tolkien? Or some fantasy writer from olden days?

The oldest distinction come from English heraldry. But the heraldry language systems from other regions didn't make a distinction between types of dragons.

No, they do make more sense. All you're doing is the shitty argument of "well this aspect doesn't add up, so fuck everything else too, throw the whole book out"

see
and
And maybe you'll understand why wyvern dragons are boring and little more than beasts.

>You might as well defend a flying horse over it
>what is the pegasus, which literally never ever has its designs changed from classical myth and is always taken at face value without any issues

Because George has weird priorities, I guess the dragons had to pay their forelimbs as part of the tax policy

>bitch
Dragonheart was 23 years ago

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I'm pretty sure it's beady eyed anglos who get super autistic because of their britbong flags/coats-of-arms/whatever, and think that just because their mythology on their shitty little island makes dumb distinctions like this, that it's a rule that should be applied to everything.

And you are advocating for changing just one aspect, and then ignoring all the other issues that still plague their ability to merely exist, and calling it automatically better because that one singular thing is changed.

i concede

You really using "it's magic, it doesn't have to make sense" level of argument.
Just because it's fantasy it doesn't mean that it needs to ignore every rule of reality. 4 limbed dragons look more real and make the least amount of sense when we compare it to the other animals in the planet. That is enough to prefer it rather than the hexapod flying thing you call dragon.

>Everything you say still applies to a 6 limbed dragon.
of course it does. That's because nobody should ever harbour the delusion that a dragon should ever be realistic.
This is simply you coming up with excuses as to why you prefer the look of 4 limbs. You fail to grasp that it's a fucking dragon. It's arguably the single most malleable mythological creature that has ever been conceived, and you could justify a dragon of almost any type with a cultural reference
>You might as well defend a flying horse over it.
Are you fucking high? You mean something like pegasus?

Is that supposed to be an argument? all yolu're saying is "but I think 6 limbs looks cool!"
okay bro, you're allowed to prefer your hexapod dragon, but that's still not some objective slam-dunk in its favor.

I wonder how long it took to clean the months of dried in jizz off that doll before he brought it out in public.

No... didn't they ever play Dungeons and Dragons!? Why ... WHY DOESN'T THIS DRAGON HAVE FOUR LEGS! /tg/ and Yea Forumseddit told me Dragons have FOUR LEGS - NOOOOOO

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Nigger, more than half of the time in fantasy media, dragons don't even evolve, they are created as is or no explanation is given at all about where they came from. Most of the time they literally ARE magic and cannot even exist without it.

>le edgy fatman says it so it's true
FINISH

Autistic faggots on the internet who have decided on an arbitrary set of rules

I think we can call it here

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>Seriously, WHO set up this rule?
Scientists

What's that lady doing? It looked like a tame pet dragon is S. George actually an asshole what is going on here

>"it's not perfect therefore being better than the alternative doesn't count"
dude stop being autistic. This is like if a setting inexplicably has a city built on an upside down pyramid balanced on its tip, and when someone calls bullshit on this, you respond by saying "well but this other town has a building whose columns are a meter too slim to support the weight by my calculations! How can you criticize one but not the other??"

heraldry, which dnd and any number of other stuff ripped off

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You're ignoring the main difference. 9.9 times out of 10 a "wyvern" style dragon is just going to be a mindless beast, rampaging across the lands. A 4 legged, 2 winged Dragon is usually depicted as a proper fantasy dragon. They are grand, majestic, powerful, cunning and deadly. A dragon is a character and a wyvern is a monster.

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I've already corrected myself here And what I consider to be a dragon or not a dragon has little to do with Tolkien or tabletop games.

Look at these fucking roman retards, don't even know what a TRUE dragon looks like! I bet they don't even have the dragon speak english or hoard gold in a mountain either!

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all these two limb Wyvern shills itt finna get dabbed on

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Then, as an user referenced earlier, centaurs, pegasus, etc. need to be redesigned, correct? How is having pegasus okay but a traditional four-legged dragon not?

How many times do I have to fucking post this for it to get through your guys' thick skulls.

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It's pointless intellectual autofellation over what might as well be nothing at all.

St. George just fucking hates dragons. They were like the Pit Bulls of ancient times. That's the Dragons "fang mommy". George doesn't let that shit fly.

NOOOO, STOP!
THAT ANATOMY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! I CAN'T APPRECIATE THIS NOW!!!!

>proper fantasy dragon
according to who? dungeons n dragons?

Missing the point. Regardless wof whatever the fuck a "wyrm" is, the point is that there's no such thing as a global classification of dragon. It's like going over to Russia or Japan and complaining that they're not writing properly because they're not using your latin alphabet.

>You want to see a flying realistic 6 limbed dragon?
No, I want to see a traditional 6 limbed dragon. Something that could have feasibly inspired the heraldic designs.

Looks fucking gay lol don't embarass yourself posting this cringe.

*sips* now THAT was a dragon

>the virgin imaginary creatures contester
>the chad mythological cryptid conversationalist

>source: my ass

>who would win in a fight?
>thousands of years across different cultures with wildly different serpentine creatures all considered dragons
>or
>my shitty meme cartoon based on meme taxonomy from my boardgame's bestiary

You are fucking stupid. Keep living in your fantasy world. Those are the proper depictions of the types of dragons you absolute fuckstick

>wyvern: completely worthless once grounded, especially when approached from the side
>dragon:just fucking swats you like an insect

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Kirin's are not dragonkin of any kind, nor are Hydras, fuck off

seems you are in serious need of having sex

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>keep living in your fantasy world
>Those are the proper depictions of the types of dragons

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lol if you don't feel embarassed by your posts why would I

>It's like going over to Russia or Japan and complaining that they're not writing properly because they're not using your latin alphabet

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Why were they made to be so spiky? You can't even tell what the fuck they're supposed to be, they're just monsters.

See Fuck you

Actually the most consistent pic in the thread. All the guys seems to be having a hard time copeing.

...No

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fairly common knowledge that dragons are a mythological creature with 4 legs and 2 wings. Wyvrens are the genetic bastard child of dragons and birds or something.

>Kirin's are not dragonkin of any kind, nor are Hydras

THATS WHY THEY ARE NOT IN THE INNER DRAGON CIRCLE YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARD. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ OR INTERPRET THINGS?

Fuck you guys are showing your true retardation.

Well said.

seething brainlet
It might be the most consistent but it doesn't mean that it's correct.

average /jp/sie

>yeah bro have you played resident evil? It's fucking sick. There's this virus that reanimates the corpses and they come back as zombies who try to e-
>UMM ACKSHUALLY ZOMBIES REFERS TO POSSESSED PEOPLE BY VOODOO MAGIC, YOU FUCKING PLEB

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>hollywood continues to be uninspired trend followers

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They have nothing to do with Drakes either fuckhead, they're basically a Chink unicorn complete with the walking on clouds to not kill grass faggotry

What a great thread, and they say Yea Forums fell off

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Gay

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Nice to meet you Gay

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Just like OP

wyverns are dragons

>>dragon:just fucking swats you like the insect you are
ftfy

You have an objectively shit opinion if you think 4 limbed dragons look better just for the sake of pleasing your sense of “realism” a six limbed dragon is mightier and more grand in every respect, which is what fantasy is all about.

Wyverns dont have legs at all, they have arms, wings, and snake tails. Stop getting your Information on mythology from fucking video games

what do you expect from GOT? They don't think anything through over there

*blocks your path*

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Based answer

>a six limbed dragon is mightier and more grand in every respect
wrong
>which is what fantasy is all about.
wrong

We get it, you personally think 6 limbs looks cooler. A lot of people disagree, and as a result there are lots of depictions of 4 limbed dragons. I don't know what else to tell you; I'm sorry not everyone who creatures fantasy stuff has your exact set of tastes

looks like a retarded crossbreed

Dragon is an umbrella term that includes Wyverns.

Not all dragons are wyverns, but all wyverns are dragons.

For whatever reason nerds feel the need to gatekeep different types of dragons to being described by the word which is completely silly.

In addition, wyverns are not exclusively two legged variants.

In fact, adding the idea of the archetypal dragon as a 4 legged and winged lizard that breathes fire is actually pretty comically retarded.

Dragon - origin drakon literally serpent. The norse dragon not differentiated from serpens which lumped Fafnir and the Nidhogg as the same. Fafnir described as serpentine crawling. Dug and was wounded in the shoulder. Zero implication of four appendages - the lindworm. Wyvern origin of old French vipre.

In fact the first origins of a dragon would be Kur and Asag both explained as serpentine, dragging like a snake, etc.

So, honestly, your most archetypal dragon in reality is arm and leg-less, wingless, and based on frequency of reference breathed "poison" over fire.

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IIRC i saw some artwork from a game where a dragonoid boss has this double set of pectorals/delts etc. It makes sense why now that you elaborated on it. I think it was Final Fantasy but i'm not sure

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god the dragons look so fucking good here

a shame thats one of the few good things about season 8

In all honesty I like both. The 4 legged ones seems more fit for flying and complex sky manouvering and flying attacks, while 6 legged ones i see as more like a ground unit, using wings to relocate but not able to make subtle control over it.

Is that form achievable natty?

london??

not for a wyvern

I would argue that any reptile that breathes fire is automatically a dragon. There are just different kinds of dragons.

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They like to think that knowing DnD-specific subdivisions is some sort of esoteric knowledge, and that this gives them some sort of "nerd cred" over plebs who just think dragons are any serpentine monster. Even though in actual mythologies, dragons do have tons of variation

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>wrong
wrong

6-limbed dragons are alpha and majestic. 4-limbed dragons look like cats taking a shit.

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The fact that they apparently have an endless reservoir of fire always bugged me. Only in how to train your dragon they made it realistic with the limited hits, but forgot about it in any other moment of the movie beside that.

They remind me of those bar sluts with big foreheads that clog up entertainment districts.

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imagine the smell

i'm pissed at how they massacred by boy rhaegal
he was my favorite

Yeah the dragons in GoT breathe a ridiculous amount of fire.

You keep ignoring the point I've been making all thread. The main reason people make the distinction is because:
Dragon = an actual character with wants and desires
Wyvern = an animal, a movie monster, no motivation beyond being a movie monster
This is rarely deviated from in popular media. From video games, to movies, tv and books. The 6 limbed dragon is almost always depicted as an actual character with wyverns being depicted as beasts.

>search game of thrones
>just a bunch of articles talking about how it's stupid
are they finally opening there eyes?

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The design of this one went a bit too far with the human-like hands. Otherwise it's pretty nice.

What a shit hitbox. Just the tip of the sword counts as your torso.

>Balerion The Big Black Dreadcock

Was this title really necessary?

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Bran's eyes will turn blue and he'll ressurect rhaegal and all of the fallen soldiers
youtube.com/watch?v=Oi7WH7_NO9I

>Dragon = an actual character with wants and desires
>Wyvern = an animal, a movie monster, no motivation beyond being a movie monster
Source: your butthole

I have tons of pictures of that very subject, but of course I cannot post them here sadly.

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i want to sniff that dragons feet

>popular media

umm... 40 years of popular media or 4119 years of literary history.

Name 3 wyverns that were actual characters, and not beasts, that weren't Vermithrax Pejorative or Jackson's Smaug.

Woah, that would be pretty crazy if Bran became the night king and made white walker draggos.

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>This is rarely deviated from in popular media
Well then it must be a fact!

pretty based dragon
but best dragon coming through
>duplicate file exists here
nice that people are saving my screenshot

Wyverns are the niggers of dragonkind, and they are currently being overrepresented in popular media.

>Caraxes The Cum Wyrm
>Meleys The Red Cunt
>Vermithor The Bronze Fucker
Targaryens had some serious issues

>Wyverns are the niggers of dragonkind

No, drakes are.

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According to who? You? Again, plenty of variation throughout mythologies across space and time. Some mythologies have smart dragons. Others do not. There is no "correct" interpretation, and all this thread has revealed is that you're a literal autist who can't comprehend the concept that other people have different tastes/preferences than your own.

I played Demon Souls thanks.

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i wonder if he'll be a good guy or just delete everyone

/thread

When we're talking in the context of film and other media, yes.

>rapes daenarys

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>Vermithrax Pejorative or Jackson's Smaug
those are dragons

I want to cum inside dua lipa

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Dragon God is the best

Smaug as Tolkien drew it was a wyrm

Just because something is rarely deviated from doesn't mean the deviations are wrong. How can you not understand this?

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Biggest joke here is that they left the map alone and even originally planned on Smaug having six limbs, but then changed it suddenly.

>Smaug and Glaurung are clearly based of Fafnir

Glaurung is based on Fafnir, Smaug is a more talkative version of the dragon from "Beowulf".

>biological realism
>dragons

Retard.

Fafnir only had two front legs. No wings. No back legs.

He was a snake with arms.

A cockatrice has never been associated with dragons. The fuck is this Monster Manual bullshit?

Imagine having such garbage taste, that you think it is infinitely better to take THE monster of fantasy and dumb it down into just another animal, rather than allow it to be a living natural disaster or force of nature

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Beak fags get the rope.

Reminder if you're not European or Asian you are not allowed to have opinion on dragon vs. wyvern debate because that would be cultural appropriation

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based

Smaug is a wyvern and is where the archetype you give dragons came from, retard

>The man looks like a woman and the woman looks like a man.
What did they mean by this?

see
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Smaug's a fire drake dipshits, so was Ancalagon, that's how Tolkien dragons work

Get schooled faggots
bogleech.com/dragons.html

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Not even close.

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>the dragons being big is a new thing meme
Fafnir, Nidhogg, the Bignor hill dragon, Blue Ben, the Wawel dragon, Vortigern's dragons, Zmey Gorynych and more say hello.
He can't even cherry pick properly in his article

Regardless of what he missed, he's got clear evidence that "dragons have 6 limbs" is baseless faggotry.

The Hobbit sucked but Smaug was pure wyvern-kino.

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They are draconids, dragons are dragons.

I don't even care about that shitflinging contest.
The article is poorly researched, and misses the most critical point that medieval and early renaissance art was largely commissioned by religious institutes, and as such had the mandate to show holy and righteous beings as always superior to the agents of evil. Hence the absolutely pitiful creatures on display.
To claim they are representetive of contemporary folklore is absolutely absurd

Wyverns being noble, intelligent or cunning just feels so weird.
Look at Smaug in your pic, he's making a conscious effort to look taller to make himself look more noble, but he can't properly move from that pose. It's almost like a dog standing on its hind legs.
Meanwhile, six limb dragons look down on you in their normal stance, their head stands tall above the ground and they sit ready.
I just think six limb dragons are cooler desu.

since forever newfag

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Smaug looked like an ungainly retard in the movie.
Maybe if they'd cut that retarded Benny Hill scene he might have retained some dignity.

Seriously, look at that! Look at how the wings stretch out behind it, almost like a cape with the head held high and looking over in contempt.

>NONONONONO WYVERNS ARE OBVIOUSLY CLOSER TO THE "HISTORICAL" DEPICTION OF DRAGONS THAN THE ONES IN YOUR GAY DND
Then how come they don't look like anything from old paintings and look like DnD wyverns?

ITT: autism

>23 years ago

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youtube.com/watch?v=RTlY8lXZaE0

Yes and?

That neck only works if he had 6 limbs. Looks like some retarded swan as wyvern

a dragon that can't fly is an overgrown lizard

>Seriously, WHO set up this rule?
>Scientists
Woah I found a retard. Dragons were never real.

This. Even those fucking chink dragons without wings, can still fly.

Seriously. I think this is something manlets will never understand.
Wyverns (manlets) have to actually put effort into looking tall and imposing, meanwhile dragons (men over 185cm) just do it naturally when standing straight.

Absolute bullshit. The distinction is made in English heraldry and Dungeons and Dragons. It doesn't mean fucking anything.

>Dragons were never real.
u wot

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Yeah

explain how St. George slayed one then?

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Oldest stories about dragons come from the Mesopotamian culture's
I believe that's where the 4 legs/2 wings that spread throughout the rest of Western Civilization's cultural lour stemmed from, influencing Egyptian and Greek and eventually Roman mythology

My dad. He works at nintendo.

>Game of thrones

is actually a fucking cancerous normie shit

You are now aware that the Asian/Oriental dragon is just the massive salt water crocodiles that populated that entire half of the continent.

>Dragons are supposed be literal flying tanks, their dragon skin/scales are literally impenetrable, its harder than any metal ever
>George's books is supposed to be same

muh D&D writing:

>S7 drogon gets hit by muh bolt and it penetrates his skin/scales, which is literally impossible but whatever lets retcon georges story kek
>Rhaegal gets sniped by bolts and kekd ezpz

wtf anons w-what happened??

Shenron lookin mf

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Is there a "St.Jorge Slays The Dragon" that the characters involved give a shit?

No.
They're almost all some mix of propaganda and an artist phoning it in.

D&D niggers get the rope first

the plural of penis is peanus

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>Wyvrens are the genetic bastard child of dragons and birds or something.
Fucking idiot how could a dragon fuck a bird? The dragon’s cock would explode the bird from the inside and the bird would end up looking like a red rubber band stretched around the base of the dragon’s cock

I'm pretty sure overgrown lizard that breathes fire is a dragon

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Obsessed culturelet

literally a chimera

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Umm they're dragons sweetie.

You say a lot for someone who doesn't know much

>REEEEEEEEE

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>flying sneks
What are you doing lad

>No the cool space dragon

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>skin/scales are literally impenetrable
Who said that? They are sturdy but obviously have a limit. The show made them softer than a baby tho.

>killed by a gay bard

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yes, that is indeed essentially what dragons are.

>this type of dragon is not a dragon

what is this? 2015 Yea Forums?
you people really LIKE shitposting

DROGONED.COM

A lindwurm, which is still a kind of dragon.

OP here, Yea Forums is a shit board and you are all retards, I hope you all die after GoT ends.

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>lung dragon
>is long
BRAVO

>Wyverns don't breathe fire
>Drakes don't breathe fire
They do if you're playing DW1 randomizer and get dragon lord 2 or baby breath shuffled to them.

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