How has American tv news seemingly inoculated people against critical inquiry and created the belief that such...

>brings a guest on to talk about their new book
>BUT SEVEN YEARS AGO ON TWITTER YOU SAID A BAD THING
Hard hitting journalism from the BBC as always.

>Ben and his supporters calling him a fucking leftist
American political takes will never fail to make me laugh.

honestly i dont know, its so blatant, nobodys talking about that, critical thinking was kinda important not so long ago.
its like some group is testing the waters every day with more and more stupid and anti-american, anti-christian and anti-white shit to see if everyone is ok with that nonsense,
people are eating every new piece of garbage
if that means they can label themselves as modern, progressive and kind

>you criticise the coarsening of political discourse
>you also frequently engage in extremely coarse and divisive rhetoric
I see you too just like Shapiro cant understand critical inquiry or being confronted with your/his own contradictory behaviour

The best way to make someone anti-american is to make them speak to americans

he asked him critical questions
that means he disagreed with and disliked him
that means he is a leftist
facts & logic strike again

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Why is the british guy fat? I thought you brits were thin? He's a porker

> Gotcha questions and using past statements against someone is a win
Lmao. This far left asshole gor wrecked. Ben is an amazing debater and this guy came at him dishonestly

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I am from Buenos Aires and I say them all.

I don’t like Sanders but holy fuck is Shapiro just a fucking imbecile.

Why does Ben Shapiro frighten you so much?

It's such a joke. Interrogation, debate, it's all fucked and we are no longer capable of it. It should all be anonymous if that's the only way honest opinions are expressed anymore.

>anti-American
a totalitarian concept, to equate criticism of the government and its policies with hate of the society, culture, and people - to identify the leaders with the people - is a truly totalitarian concept
>ant-Christian
>anti-white
no such thing exists, it is a victim complex/gaslighting to rationalise ones own prejudices by claiming to be the victim

Kill them all*

Pretty sure we're only just behind Amerifats in terms of obesity rates. I blame Gregs.

american white people let this literal jew mock the fact you die because him and his money have all the money.
this cant last

this is you

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I welcome the challenge fuckers. We'll glass the lot a ya'/

Those same American while people attack another Jew and call him an anti-semite for showing compassion to the working class. They deserve to suffer.

>i am more popular than you
wow so this is the power of the IDW.

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>DUDE BUT YOU TWEETED THIS THING YOU ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR
If you can't win the debate honestly, you can't win a debate.
Congrats faggots, it took you YEARS finally you got some old man to BTFO Shapiro. Now you can make your REPUBLICANS OWNED compilations and stop crying about Shapiro

>Accuses Neil of being liberal

Probably his biggest mistake

>Gotcha questions
Neil asked about the Georgia law that would prohibit abortion after 6 weeks and Shapiro tried to change the subject to late term abortion
So theres ya gotcha bucko
>quoting someone is wrong
>asking them about how these statements contradicts their complaints about coarsening political dialogue is also wrong
Are you retarded?
In what world is quoting someone "using past statements against someone"
This is the very thing the OP was talking about - unable to handle criticism, unable to handle critical inquiry, unable to explain oneself and taking it as a personal attack
>Andrew Neil is far left
oh dear

I don't know what interview we're talking about here, but usually when something is described as a meltdown it's nothing like a meltdown.

That's not inquiry. He went out of his way to provoke him by calling him "barbaric" and his opinions from the dark ages. He was obviously not interested in civil discourse and was only there to get a reaction. I'm not even a fan of that manlet.

Its the free market at work. If more people like you then your ideas make more sense. If you are unpopular then your ideas probably suck or more people would know who you are. Not hard to understand,desu

I see you too browse CTH

Ben Shapiro is garbage. All he does is tell his audience what they want to hear.

>point of book is "da left is ruining political discourse"
>journalist points out his negative contributions to political discourse
>wooooow wtfff why are you bringing that up dude ughh

>luxuries are equatable with basic rights

>using past statements
What kind of moron would expect consistency from a conservative

Please go away and meditate on the meaning of the word "critical".

Shapiro just wouldnt let that go. He dragged it on through the entire interview in to entirely different subjects

British conservatives are basically far leftists in america. The brits have gone waaaayyy off the deep end into the left so far that their right is basically bernie sanders and antifa.

>the veracity of an idea is its popularity
the absolute state of the "intellectual" right

>that's not an example of coarsening dialogue in politics because I apologized for it

You notice how Shapiro has this whole gigantic list of things he has retracted, corrected, or apologised for?

How many times can he do this?

Say something awful, get a negative response, and then 'walk it back'?

How long before you begin to doubt the sincerity or ask what kind of behaviour is this or ask why is he always retracting these statements?

Waahh why don't you ask me questions where I can just say the left are crazy

It’s more like American conservatives have become so radicalized that they boycott coffee cups for featuring snowflakes on the holidays instead of Jesus

He did not call him barbaric you deaf idiot
He called the law in the state of Georgia that would prosecute a woman for having a MISCARIAGE barbaric

This but Ben still handled it like a tool by getting visibly mad. As a a smarmy logic pedant that comes across as admitting defeat. If his character was more like Alex Jones him leaving mid interview would seem less pathetic.

>anti-American
It has been misused for sure, but the attacks have expanded to attacks American people and their identity.

>In what world is quoting someone "using past statements against someone"
That's exactly what it means though, the problem isn't bringing up what people have claimed before, the problem is the belief that this is somehow unfair and shouldn't be done.

He described the Georgia law as being from the dark ages you incompetent swine

Ben Shapiro is just a professional troll. He hasn't learnt how to debate, just to dishonestly annoy people. If you ever see him talk with someone who isn't a literal high schooler, he never will deal with the topic at hand. He will attack them on some other aspect or just a bizarre non sequitur. If you try to pin him on it, he will just get louder and more insistent on his dishonest tactics.

is there an easier accessible audience than disenfranchised white incels who spend all day on the internet?

>“Rootless white males” who spend all their time online and they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way.

>You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump.

>Every day I have to marvel at what the billionaires and FOX News pulled off. They got working whites to hate the very people that want them to have more pay, clean air, water, free healthcare and the power to fight back against big banks & big corps. It’s truly remarkable.

>If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

but yeah everyone else is the NPC

Politics is at an all time low in America
There's literally no debating this.

I'd add that this is all due to the collective IQ of America dropping 10 points in last 20 years with higher education now being a fucking ponzi scheme instead of an actual way to educate their people.

unironically based.

Its called the Motte and Baily argument, you defend a broader position by retreating to some unassailable position
Now nobody is too keen on a baby being aborted at 7 or 8 months
So you go hard on late term abortion in response to... Georgias law prohibiting abortion after 6 weeks, making miscarriage illegal, etc

satan speaks the truth

apparently you can never fix things in the past and move on. if he had brought up examples of him being coarse since he had written that book, then I'd understand the point he was trying to make.

>come back to my show Ben! I would never ask you questions that would even make you slightly uncomfortable. Free market place of ideas and all that!

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Yes bringing up something someone said on twitter is a personal attack. Only a boomer like this who doesn't understand the internet would do something so stupid. If I had someone's record of posts on Yea Forums I wouldn't use them to judge him as a person. It's fucking retarded boomer shit. He doesn't understand twitter, and as such it makes sense to walk out on him. You can't explain the entire internet to some old fart and have them understand.

>I don't know what I am talking about but this is the hill I have committed to defend
And die on it you shall

There is no this, the retard you are responding to totally misheard what Neil said
Or more likely hasn't watched and is repeating what he read someone else said about it

Right, we should just let secular humanists take over the nation. We should just forget Jesus and how he helped found America

The law that Ben Shapiro supports - which means he's calling him and all the Georgia Republicans barbaric indirectly.

jews should be taxed at 90% exclusively

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I think that response says it all

>plenty of things are wrong, that doesn't make them fascist
>Well... I suppose that's true

Not being able to take someone at their word in the context of when they said something means you are dealing with a fundamentally dishonest person.

fuck off discord tranny

>its okay for him to be coarse before writing a book about the coarsen of political dialogue
>its only not okay to do it after the book

Based. Fuck America

Neil's inquiries to Ben were precisely how American politics were so divisive with far left and far right, and how Ben himself contributed to this. And you are an example of that as well. When Ben called him a leftist Neil laughed, because his own politics often do not align with the left. With you people it's, if you don't agree with me then you must be far on the other side

6+ years of medical school and then hours of their life spent treating you isn't a basic human right.
if we're going down that path, what makes you say that furniture isn't a human right?

>it is unfair to ask people about the things they have said and to explain them and point out it contradicts other things they have said

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You cant use statements someone has apologized for against them

Yeah the Founding Father totally looked to Jesus and the Jews for government. They totally weren't looking to the Pagans Greeks and Romans for the structure of government.

Unironically Fox News patenting echo chamber "journalism" from opinion talking heads pretending to, but totally disavowing the idea of, be journalists.

Or maybe just subscribe to the oldest rule of the internet: Don’t release your personal information out to the public

None of this would be happening if these absolute retards just took down their pictures and fell back to vulgar usernames. Social Media by and large is just a tool that will inevitably be used against you

>white america
White Americans prop up people like Shapiro and pay to do so willingly. One needs only look at braindead trump supporters rally behind the biggest Zionist to ever occupy the White House.

>hurr

This but unironically

And American liberals will boycott the cups because the cups offend them by using the toxic term "snowflake" and because why does the snowflake have to be white; that's problematic!

Both sides are so fucking skewed it's impossible to have any political discussion anymore, everyone's head is 10 miles up their own ass.

Or just not get worked up about a coffee cup.

This is not the hill to die on.

Because not having a coffee table won't potentially threaten your right to life

>he said it over the internet so it doesn't count

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>this law is barbaric
>you support it
>ergo you are?

It doesn't make miscarriage legal, you will be investigated for miscarriages and if it's found that it wasn't intentional you won't be persecuted. Sounds good to me. We already investigate murderers, it's not hard.

What kind of a world are living in where we applaud Andrew Neil

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Pretty much, yeah

there is no far left in American politics
And the "divisive" nature of American politics comes down to rightwing reactionaries screaming that they are the victim and need special treatment

Leftists literally tried boycotting In-N-Out for having a Bible passage under their cups. Who's the real snowflake?

(You)

Investigating a miscarriage, which is already a traumatic and deeply personal experience, sounds like some 1984 shit.

If the shoe fits

Pretty difficult to have the pursuit of happiness and liberty without life innit?

>British conservatives are basically far leftists in america
That says more about the state of America than it does about Britain

Still the dudes getting mad at literal pictures of snowflakes.

>Anti-western and anti-white animus do not exist

Great explanation, Schlomo. The 50 or 60 articles that come out every day blaming white people for every identifiable problem on planet earth don't exist.

>I'll cover my ears and ignore all subtext

You do know that in countries with public healthcare that doctors are paid quite well, right?
Like you do understand that they're not forced at gunpoint to work 18 hour shifts every day and sleep in concentration camps, right?

I mean, in Australia which has had Medicare since only 1983 a doctor can earn between $115,000AUD to $240,000AUD on a 38 hour week
That is $80,000USD to $168,000USD

It says Britain is a far left dystopia where people are constantly arrested for looking at porn or saying bad words online. At least in America I can call a muslim a terrorist in waiting and not go to prison

>you won't be persecuted
Typo of the week right here.

see do you notice though that it keeps happening?

The problem is that people on yhe right conflate communism with left wing identity politics. Obviously overlap exists, but people whose primary concern are trans rights/representation of minorities on movies are not necessarily Marxists.

>you will be investigated for a miscarriage

Imagine living in a shithole that investigates you criminally for your womb malfunctioning. Southerners are so fucking stupid.

Doctors in countries with universal healthcare (literally every civilised country on the planet besides the US) get paid you fucking nonse.

What are you even trying to say here

>you will be investigated for miscarriages
please mull over this statement for the rest of the day

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yeah it says that britain is an authoritarian hellhole

white americans are ben shapiro's biggest fans

How many public figures are even willing to do something like make a public, easy to access list of bad things they said and make it clear to apologize and denounce those things? If Shapiro is a hypocrite then what does that make everyone else?

One of the first steps in rolling back the coarsening of political dialogue is to stop with the "you once said this!" "Well you said that before!" type of arguments. As far as I can tell they are both trash Neocon or the equivalent of one, but the British one's attempt at making a point about Shapiro's character really just makes him look like a trash reporter. Shapiro just looks autistic through the whole exchange.

White men in their 20s need to be declared as terroristic threat to the country.

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I don't understand how the fuck you can claim something you said 5 years ago is already in the past. Like what? So now you can ONLY be quoted for things you said this week, and everything else doesn't count?
What the fuck is this argument, did you completely change and make a rennovation to your persona in the 5 years of that phrase coming out of your lips?
Fully baffling argument.

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> Ben "healthcare to save my dying kid is just like buying cereal" Shapiro

What led Shapiro to believe he was being personally attacked? Is he always that way or was he having a bad day?

I'm sure he doesn't support the application of that law to prosecute women having miscarriages, and frankly that's all he needed to say. British tabloid press is some of the worst in the world when it comes to misleading BS headlines, it wouldn't have been hard to get the point across that what the interviewer referred to is the same kind of phenomena. It was an embarrassingly poor interview.

>Oh no, this blogger on gizmodo said something against white people to clickbait
Don't be such a pussy

true, but they all support more government control over society and the individual

>it says that britain is an authoritarian hellhole
>you will be investigated for miscarriages
The party of freedom and small government everyone.

Reminder that Shapiro has directly led to at least one mosque shooting

He’s a fucking Jew bitch that’s why.

This kind of absurdist argument is a result of continued consumption of far right politics in America, I hope you don't believe what you say

>Britain is a far left dystopia
top kek

yes. all women

yeah definitely. they're the threat

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This. Rightards obliterated yet again.

Oh no. Not your Rotherham heroes

>men commit 90% of all crime
Actually, any man is a threat.

If Shapiro wants to take the first step it would be in correcting he behaviour and dropping the rhetoric
But instead its everyone else at fault
And if you bring up the mountain of things he said - wait wait no I apologised for that, I retracted that, I corrected that, please see the mile long list on my website of misspoken or wrong statements that I will just keep on endlessly adding to
Oh, btw, Obamas a fascist

If only your mother had been investigated for miscarriages, you might never have been born.

you will be investigated for killing an unborn child, yeah. they already do that when there's suspicion of foul play btw

Sounds pretty barbaric and dark age-y

What a fucking piece of absolute shit.

>he says while supporting the party that treats miscarriages as a criminal investigation
Is self awareness haram in America?

I thought far-leftists were sexual deviants who loved pornographic imagery?

Get your narrative straight please.

>redit spacing
Every time lmao

The American political spectrum never fails to make me laugh. You faggots think fucking universal healthcare is a left-wing policy.

I unironically hope you kill yourself.

This is all ben needed to do:
youtube.com/watch?v=jjC3ycS_2js

mainly black ones

Slaughtering children sounds a little barbaric to most people but I'm not enlightened

>reddit spacing
Look at sup/tg/ and pick the oldest thread there. Observe how the posts are formatted.

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What makes you think you have a right to live? We're all particles and stardust bro. Before and after we die, nothing changes.

i won't. i will kill you though

>but I'm not enlightened
We know

its his standard tactic
be personally offended
go on the attack
attack the attacker
assume they're all leftists with an """agenda"""
Then why didn't he say so instead of getting all high and mighty about conservative politics being apparently demeaning as barbaric and trying to change the topic to late term abortion?

Shapiro was behaving exactly like a tabloid headline

Show us some examples of it then.

Yes, but you also cover up mass rape if the rapists have brown skin. Don't want to upset community cohesion lol

unborn children have the right to be protected from harm

Uh yeah, people change. This pathologal obsession with holding on to every word someone has said in passing, along with archival nature of the internet, makes everyone look school yard kids tattling on each other over saying a naughty word. It's not in good faith, and it makes the conversation stupid. Words or transitory, even the people who say them are to an extent. Actions and hololistic ideas, are tangible.

investigating a miscarriage

It's how all conservative commentators argue in the US, even William F Buckley jr

Right but equating a mother who suffered miscarriage to slaughtering children is beyond the pale you fucking loon

Yea killing a baby usually results in police involvement

INDIRECT seems pretty important in this context. Neil said locking someone up for 30 years for a miscarriage was barbaric and similar to the dark ages, how is this not true?

women who are suspected of inducing miscarriages have been investigated by police. uncommon but it does happen

Once they’re born, it’s okay to let them starve.

Hes much better at "debating" eighteen year old psych majors than he is defending his dumbshit views or his past statements.

>separating your sentences is reddit

And what does that have to do with pornography again?

>What makes you think you have a right to live?
Well since we are discussing America itt and republicans maintain they want to preserve the founding fathers vision. I would cite the United States Declaration of Independence.

>Georgia's very recent abortion law

>7 years ago

>a miscarriage is murder

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>American tv news
They are not /news/men. They are mercenaries.

Yes, the miscarriage police are coming for you lol. You faggots are hysterical children.

>no ones past statements matter because "words are transitory"
What are you, retarded?

Kind of, but our lefty parties are still not that left compared to other European social democracies. It's not so much that Britain is super left wing it's more that America is very right wing for a modern democracy. There's not many other places where advocating for universal healthcare can get you called a communist. Bernie Sanders is a good example of this as in a lot of European countries he wouldn't be considered at all extreme.

Explain how tories are far-left, and be specific.

that's because they usually are. people who want to preserve and protect things will always be under attack from those who want to take or change those things

They believe everyone deserves health care.

*have sex with them

Unfortunately that's the world liberals have created, where even miscarriages could be baby murders.

Cringe. This isn’t reddit kiddo

If it's a human right, then technically, doctors don't need to get paid and everyone can demand their services whenever they want. To ask for payment is to imply one can refuse someone their human right. It also implies that anyone from any place in the world can demand any doctor treat them. You can argue that having a government monopoly of healthcare is better than a market provision of healthcare, but to say it is a human right is fucking brainlet tier.

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yeah all those starvations in america. it's like ethiopia over there

It's just a happy coincidence that this just happens to increase the surveillance, administrative and authoritative powers of the government? But only to enforce your views right?

How else do you judge someone's character, but by the things one has said? It is the only tangible and real thing you can hold unto, and when you don't, then everyone can just claim to be what they are without any counterargument.
Who we've been, what we've said, it offers a needed perspective and ground to the kind of people we are today. To just brush off all of these things under the rug and claim ignorance or claim they are not needed is to outright want to deny the truth and reality.

>European conservatives are basically Antifa

American "education", everyone.

They hand out government backed free healthcare.

Just by making a list, he is doing more than practical every other public figure who is guilty. It needs to be something that is done in good faith and reciprocal. If you kick him while he is down by drudging up old tweets then what good are you hoping to achieve? Remind everyone that Shapiro says shitty things? He already acknowledged that, how about something constructive now?

Britain is out of control, and the politicians there hate their own people.

That's not what he said and he's making a fair point about how everything we say is a lot more permanent now than in the past and we're still adapting to that.

real question: whole world vs usa. who would win?

>Traumatic
So is investigating the validity of rape victims' claims, but we still do it because he's necessary and people (liberals) will lie otherwise.

they oppose free speech and gun rights and support multiculturalism

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I agree, americans are a stain on this planet.
If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating if it meant millions of people would die

I will win

>Then why didn't he say so instead of getting all high and mighty about conservative politics being apparently demeaning as barbaric and trying to change the topic to late term abortion?

Because weasel words and slanted language is used in the mainstream media all the god damn time to delegitimize views that are slightly to the right of media culture, and Ben overreacted thinking he'd caught another lazy sloppy journalist unaware of his own biases. He fucked up in that the confrontational style is in this case just an interview strategy and not some 'gotcha-style' conspiracy. He spazzed, overreacted, and then doubled down because he was in too deep to admit even to himself that he was wrong.

Its true. Endless crackdowns on knives, restriction of gun rights, attacks on free speech, criminalization of disparaging comments, banning people from your country for saying alla is gay, etc.

This isn't digging up a stupid tweet that a shortstop for the Cardinals sent a decade ago when he was 14 and trying to be edgy and cool. This is shit Shapiro said as an adult, trying to grow his brand for political commentary and gain notoriety.

That pay is shit for a doctor.

American specialists can push 800k

>people who want to preserve and protect things
>let's go to vietnam
>let's go to Korea
>let's go to Afghanistan
>let's go to Iraq

That stuff is irrelevant. What is relevant, is importing mass throngs of foreigners to your country, and favoring them over your own people - a thing which british politicians do.

Yea and the British government literally nicked, unbespoken mind you, 800 squids from a prospective member of the European parliament.

>In America, the sole reason to become a doctor is so you can earn big buck
Jesus fucking christ.

yeah they get paid peanuts and in return you wait forever and the service is shit. The only people who benefit from it are the leeches of society

The Conservative Party's policies such as slashing the NHS budget have led to privatization of healthcare. You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

Not that user, but why would you be against being able to see a doctor for free? I’m lucky enough to have a job that provides REALLY good insurance, including emergency transport. But before this, I would have been absolutely fucked

t. wagecuck

all supported by the democrats

Show us

>the oppose American Republicanist ideals
>this makes them Antifa
American retardation of the political spectrum never fails to amaze me.

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Hello over 30s

why else would you work your ass off for a fucking decade. Not American btw, but I know plenty of people who went to med school. They're all miserable except those who work in private clinics making big bucks.

Daily reminder that it’s not my responsibility to pay for your healthcare. It’s your responsibility to not be a fucking loser, have a good job with good insurance, and to take care of your own health issues. i don’t give a shit about you.

By their actions and how they are in the real world. You are being mislead if you think tweets are an accurate picture of how someone truely is, even if they tweet a lot.

The weak should die so the strong can live. Anyone who disputes this is a communist.

Stay mad eurocuck

The fact he called Andrew Neil a leftist is fucking hilarious.

Nice red herring

it makes them on the left. labour supports the same things yet tories are somehow considered conservative

Americans are savage hyenas. One day they will start eating each other.
>umm wtf why do you eat faggy vegetables instead of just cannibalizing the weak?

If anybody tries to kill you, they will be arrested. Beyong that, you have no right to medicine or doctors time.

What's your good job, friendo?

Pretty much the entire northern hemisphere would be wiped out by nuclear war and the real winners would be whatever countries had the least involvement in the war.

>I would cite the United States Declaration of Independence.
Can't pursue happiness without shelter. It is now the government's obligation to provide everyone with a house.

To help your community and fellow man. You'd think conservative christians would understand this but I guess not these days

thanks

It benefits fuckibg leeches who dont work. It takes money from me to make sure bums and fucking drug addicts get free medicine and polls they will just abuse or sell

Because there are more pressing issues than gun rights.

>If anybody tries to kill you, they will be arrested
No they will conceivably be arrested after the murder

Why are you acting like its not real or wont be enforced?
That's the law on the books

His entire career revolves around his social media accounts,

Manager of sw engineers at a blue chip company

>Daily reminder that it’s not my responsibility to pay for your healthcare.
You don't understand the purpose of money in society

Why don't you try disproving what he said instead bud?

Yeah, because Republicans lied to them.

He's not wrong though, save for Iraq.

only in the minds of willing slaves

unironically fuck america and everyone in it, for the greater good of humanity

If he isnt a leftists why is he attacking someone on the right? You dont tackle someone on your own team.

>only people on the other side of the political fence lie
>having a miscarriage is comparable to accusing someone of raping you
Muh tribalism, muh shoddy arguments.

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In an actual war of survival where the U.S. was not concerned with killing civilians? U.S.A.

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Daily reminder that it’s not my responsibility to pay for your infrastructure. It's your responsibility to not be a fucking loser, build your own fucking road faggot

how do you know they don't want to work?
>takes money from me
to pay for a service you can use, when you use others contribute

Behold this absolute lack of patriotism.

What kind of software?

Why would anyone become a doctor unless they wanted to make money? The main reason to be a doc. is social status, pussy and cash.

yeah republicans lied to kennedy when he invaded vietnam. johnson escalated the war for the same reason. those dastardly republicans

Not necessarily, its just the cash-cuck conservatives, who are fake-conservatives, who get primetime. They see primetime because theyll emotionally manipulate people to buying into the free-market dogma meme, and support open borders.

Real conservatives dont get their feathers ruffled by arrant nonsense. Real conservatives, like Enoch Powell, arent afraid to question immigration and other evils.

People evolve their opinions even as they are an adult. People get things wrong, people get emotional. I am sure Shapiro still mostly believes in some of the shitty and stupid things he claims to denounce. But to center your interview over a laundry list of things someone said before that forces them to go down some history of their personal lives, instead of talking ideas and policy, is just the problem Shapiro is talking about, even if he isnt without sin.

Based Osama.

agreed, then let's send all blacks to America

>Calling Andrew Neil "Left"

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>FOR FRRREEEEE
I wish I could gas all the retards that don’t understand that healthcare can never be free. You will pay in taxes and the qaulity of care will be NHS tier

>he said, right before deep throating hairy brown Saudi cock
MAGA am I right

>this was written without irony

>and everyone can demand their services whenever they want
Who has said this is their policy?
What public healthcare system does this?

That his mistake careerwise, but on the greater point it still stands.

Why don’t you dialate your boipussy bitch because I’m coming in dry

What the fuck

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>if you support gun rights you support trump and saudi
your hatred for guns is rotting your brain's logic centers

>I will just make things up

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Well, what are your definitions of "weak" and "strong"? What about Stephen Hawking? Should he have been allowed to die? By educating the population and providing healthcare you increase the likelihood of someone being able to make a discovery or invention that benefits everyone else.
That isn't communism and if you think it is then you don't understand the term.

Stay mad fuckboi.

FUCK

YOU

GOT

MINE

:)

The best part of being an American is telling others to get fucked. I dont owe someone shit just because we happen to be born in the same nation. Get yours or get fucked

for fuck sake that is one of the dumbest things ive read all week, you yanks really can't help yourselves

Daily reminder that it’s not my responsibility to pay for your food safety standards. It's your responsibility to not be a fucking loser, to test your own steak for botulism you fucking faggot

>by their actions
actions it is unfair to quote
>what someone writes on a public internet forum does not represent their views
kill yourself

>i don’t give a shit about you.
Basic empathy is what separates functioning human beings from sociopaths and autists, just saying.

>To help your community and fellow man
I'm fine with that but community doesn't exist any more and the fellow man is a fucking moron

I'm glad you're laughing because I'm fucking sick if it. Just burn it down

Behold this absolute devastated boipussy

Those aren't real conservatives. Those are neocons, which are basically pro-war neoliberal Democrats. This is a real conservative.

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Based.

Because you want to help people? Docs are unironically paid less than train drivers in the UK yet still Med school has no shortage of applicants.

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Yep, its time to end this view that people like Shapiro are conservative. They are fake-conservatives, and hate conservatism.

I'm not going to subsidize your teat enhancement surgery with my taxes to be fair

SEETHING

Enjoy shitty care loser. Glad my insurance is great lol!

there is weasel or slant here except for what Shapiro does
The disingenuousness is jumping to late term abortion in response to Georgias law
He wont discuss Georgia, he insists on discussing a topic more comfortable to him

Truer words were never said

and this is how you create business relations. You exchange goods and services. Leeches have no goods or services to offer.
If you have empathy for the average person then you're insane.

This is why Yea Forums needs flags. Say what country you're from, pussy.

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just the figures on one site
another says 200-400k
do you need to be under 30 to live in the Constant Now where nothing in the past matters?

Do you grow your own food?

meanwhile ben shapiro still uses old tweets from ilhan omar to show she is an evil anti-semite and he still uses some bernie sanders interview from the 80s to show that he is an evil communist

based pat, very presidential face

Absolutely based.

Look at those assmad McDonald’s worker replies.

Well done

buckley is the original cuckservative

>I can the entirety of their character by 120 character limit blogposts on some digital playground
This is the cancer I am talking about. Grow up.

Why not?

>I don't understand critical inquiry
>I demand the news media to be partisan and support my views

>If you have empathy for the average person then you're insane.

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Why stop at America?

america is satan

America is moloch

>It's your responsibility to pay into socialized healthcare run by private companies that is logistically more expensive, rather than paying into a more efficient socialized healthcare run by the government and controlled by the people
Sure do love paying 150 bucks a month for a $10,000 deductable.

>Using the word "boipussy"
Dilate

What's her tax policy?

>But to center your interview over a laundry list of things someone said before
Shapiro is a political commentator that does most of it through Twitter. Almost all of his face, money, and notoriety come from the things he has said on Twitter. So how is it unfair to bring up the things he has said on Twitter?

>You will pay in taxes and the qaulity of care will be NHS tier

Absolutely LOL, the average American pays among the highest rates for healthcare yet gets BTFO by third world countries like Cuba in healthcare efficiency.

Your system is a joke.

Source: who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

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They just committed the most money to the NHS in years you prat. They are right wing on many things but they still throw shitloads at the NHS money pit.

>another red herring
Americans get dumber by the hour

Specialists in countries with public healthcare can make that much if they choose to work privately retard. The average wage of a physician in the US is comparable to that of Australia and slightly higher than that of one in the UK.

>he's not a true conservative
scotland would like to have a word

Kek

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But you already did. I’m a grill btw

>playing bingo with political terms

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I will lay it out for you: There is the left and there is the right and it is a war. When someone is on your side you lie, cheat, slander whatever to win. You dont make someone on your side look bad you do that to the other team. Its why most shows have a moron come on to represent the opposition: To show they are stupid and own them. I dont consider leftists to be human

If you're shipwrecked on an island with a bunch of people and one doctor, do you believe it is morally justified to use violence to force the doctor to treat you even if they don't want to?

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American conservatives are exactly as embarrassing as SJWs. They claim to want rational dialog but only if the end result is you agreeing with them.

>who

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>There is the left and there is the right and it is a war.
Fucking hell this is god tier bait

Don't forget Israel as well!

I have a buddy that is a nuerosurgeon and he is pushing 800k you dingus

I don't think is the "gotcha" that people like you think it is. If you've been a murderer in the past and experienced the consequences of getting caught by the police, you're not a hypocrite arguing that people shouldn't murder others. Even if you're murdering people right now you can still argue truthfully that murder is wrong. This is what's happening with Shapiro. He "coarsened the public discourse" and may even be doing it now, but that doesn't mean he can't argue that it shouldn't be done. Especially when he admits to saying dumb things in the past.

Stop making me defend that fucking snake.

its not one post
its numerous

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You should. WIthout a degree of patriarchalism, you get civil unrest sufficient to ruin everyones quality of life. Stop being a narcissist.

I wondered how the fuck something like this miscarriage law could pass but then I thought "well it is from the South"
Then I remembered how fucking big the U.S. is and how there kind of are different cultures between the states in the U.S. just like in Europe or Central/Latin America
Mexicans, Hondurans, and Brazilians wouldn't just be all chummy and 100% agree on everything, neither would Germans, French, English or Scandinavians
East Coast U.S., West Coast, the South and Bible Belt are all pretty different from each other and I wish the South would've seceded along with Western U.S.
That way we could see who would crash and burn under their own stupidity and who would thrive without being held back by retards
(But I'll be honest, the U.S. as a whole is pretty retarded)

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>Yea Forums keeps talking about this interview
>finally watch it, expecting Ben to finally be called out on his hypocrisy in regards to Isreal
>Instead its just the usual tactic of bringing up dated, out of context, already acknowledge and apologized for tweets

Yea Forums finds new ways to be disappointing everyday.

>greater point it still stands.
Yeah for most people. He isn't most people specifically because of his social media, so his social media gets held to a different standard. How is this so hard to grasp?

>Words have no meaning.

Doctors have an ethical obligation to treat people, rule 303.

Do it now before they nuke Iran 2bh

Yes, of course. Libertarians are so weak-willed.

because they know they'd be kicked out of office if they further fuck it up

>37
USA USA USA USA USA USA

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and most of them are indians and pakis, for whom standards are lowered as to not appear racist

No we'll just refuse to share our coconuts until the doctor treats us

It is unfair to a viewer who is tired of this type of shit being part of the dialogue. We can go all day about any one public figure and all the embarrassing things they have done in their life. We know Shapiro had enough rope to hang himself in regards to inflammatory things he has said. How does that help us move forward?

>the average breeder, believer of democracy with his useless government-funded job that takes his obnoxius kids everywhere on week-ends is worthy of empathy

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>a friend of mine earns 800k and I am posting on Yea Forums

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Only soiberals enjoy irony

Honestly there are so many misteps by Shapiro in this interview it's hard to keep track of them all, you're right that was disingenuous and not suited to the situation. He should have just made clear what he considers barbaric and what he does not, rather than equate criticism of the Georgia abortion law with all pro-life ideology.

>I'll just lie about it and repeat the Shapiro Internet Defence Force script

>More efficient
>run my govt

Lllllooooooolllllll

Enjoy your 30-50% taxes and procedure wait times that literally kill you.

>BUT MUH FREE PHYSICAL AND ANTIBIOTICS

Lol shitheads

Again, get a good job with good insurance. Your health is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Not mine

Reminder Sweden has the best social policies and living standards to back up that their model works, imagine you could have the time of your life living with free healthcare and breeding top notch boipussy in scandinavia or be poor and get shot in america

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>which is already a traumatic and deeply personal experience,

Quite an assumption.

>"Why would anyone lie about being raped?"

America is such a fucking meme

>Those aren't real conservatives.
lol

Good God, the left are fucking strawmanning brainlets.

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>alt right
there is no unified "alt right." it's a disingenuous and nebulous term applied to numerous people whose views vary wildly

No they don’t shithead. Show me proof

Free speech and gun rights isn't an american only thing, mongoloid. It's about decentralization, and many groups throughout history have spoused it. Even in bongland, there are some people alive who remember not needing a spoon licence.

>France
yeah enjoy getting your appointment after 6+ months, getting a romanian doctor with an accent as thick as the layer of fat on the average american, while Mamadou is yelling in the next room; and still end up paying 50+ euros because you're not a fucking leech coming over from somalia

C'mon the britbong was being combative and looking for a fight but yes this is the first time little ben was properly challenged. He legit had no good answer to some of the questions and got emotional.

youtube.com/watch?v=OIWsLecF5cs

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>everyone but me is like that
>everyone but me is bad
>I'm different and better though
Your posts are hitting such text book levels of narcissism that I'm starting to think you're just larping as one

I'd prefer a system where I have free healthcare and sexual deviants are put in camps desu.

you surprised a lot of people use Reddit?

Let’s end western civilization

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So how is that any different from now? Are you morally justified in forcing a doctor to treat you at the barrel of a gun, right now?

Yeah it has become obvious that you don't like your fellow man

>it's a disingenuous and nebulous term applied to numerous people whose views vary wildly
I bet you freely bandy the term "leftist" about though don't you

agreed, we need a training camp for boys who wanna become good girls

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>pay for my healthcare or else

How bout you dilate your boipussy bitchboi? Lol

It could be a hundred and your point would still be rediculous. Sure we can gage some sense about someone through what they choose to post, but that scope is far too limited to take seriously to the level this Brit does (if he indeed thinks he is doing something constructive with this interview).

It's true. Neocons were all former Jewish Trotskyite Democrats.

>How does that help us move forward?
By realizing it's a good stand to make, but the wrong person to make it for is Shapiro. Being against shoddy journalism and sensationalism is good, but Ben Shapiro isn't the right hill to die on for it. Especially considering that's exactly how he became well known.

Once you take the eugenics pill this position makes sense. Most people do not deserve to live, and the few who do who might fall through the cracks don't justify overhauling the system to save trash. My only problem with the american system is that it makes jews rich, so it's really a med industry con.

>show me proof
You first

>Yeah the Founding Father totally looked to Jesus and the Jews for government
You're fucking stupid if your implying they didn't. Definitely did, moreso than pagan bullshit. The ten commandments were literally the basis of our laws and constitution.

yeah, because leftists all believe in the same thing: more control over things they don't like

boipucci is anal you retarded faggot you don’t dilate it you just dress it in a skirt and mercilessly take it like you own it

NAME GIVE ME NAME NOW

Ut is in fact a war. There isnghe left: 57 genders, homosexuality, atheism, global warming, bab y murder and control under the UN and there is the right: Free Markets, liberty, guns, family values and Christianity. You choose good or evil.

I never asked for you to pay for my healthcare. But, you should care for your fellow man. That is a fundamental principle behind all of western civilization. Stop being a jew.

broccolibutts on pornhub

Roll

Because an excercise in holding Shapiro at a "higher standard" STILL says nothing about the greater point. At some you have to get tired of talking about people and instead talk about larger ideas.

Hes right.

>more control over things they don't like
wow how awful

I don't think I'm a paragon of virtue but I'm not like those people I described. I believe some people are better than that though. But the rule of the lowest common denominator has never been the way to increase standards of living.

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>study a field to help people
>”wtf I have to help people?”

No

You made a claim first nigger

What metric do you use to decide if someone "deserves" to live and how do you ensure that your standards are the ones which are used? What if someone gets into power who decides only lifelong Sikhs deserve to live and everyone else is trash?

How is living on a deserted island with 1 doctor different to America? Do I need to spell it out?

Are you talking about universal healthcare?
The only coercion that occurs is taxation.

its a good meme isnt it, refraining from accountability and association

Your post does not even mean anything. Try making a point that you thought of yourself, instead of socially signalling that you disagree with no relevant logic.

>no true scotsman is right
Sure, I guess those muslims who blow people up and behead them aren't real muslims either

>you should care for people who openly despise you and want to take away your rights and property
yeah, no. i care for people who care about and respect me. anyone else is worthless

>Anarcho-communists are the same as social democrats

Andrew Neil IS a leftist you dumb yuropoors

You guys have gone full commie nanny state and a right winger in uk is like Nancy pelosi tier here.

>study a field to help people and getting paid to do so
>"wtf I have to pay him?"

>next you'll be wanting free education, or police officers to respond when you call, or to have firefighters at gunpoint in order to put out your burning house

Conservative "logic" at work

Have you noticed that those same policies don't ever work in any non-white country?

You will never find the right person. Enjoy your gossip disguised as "political dialogue" because that is all we are ever going to get.

> Killing babies is moral
Go fuck yourself, retard. The majority of America supports banning all.abortion and only far left baby killers (like you) want the wholesale slaughter of infabts to go on. Fact: The left wants to kill babies after they are born. They want to let them freeze to death because leftism worships death

it is. especially when those things are free speech and private property

Actually user, you made the claim that US specialists make 800k

More like americans are so stupidly extremist in their beliefs that the right in other countries looks like the left to them

goodreads.com/book/show/17288293-total-mobilization
relevant opining by a stone cold killer

I don’t have anything in common with my fellow man.

Not my problem cuck boi.

You sound like a rape victim btw. Like right after they got raped and are having a rape kit done on their swollen red asshole. That’s how I imagine you sound

Leftists have banned construction of fast food restaurants and boycotted them because the owner quietly holds the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

>You choose good or evil.

How did you choose?

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Works in australia, asia, parts of africa

>doesn't even understand what rights are

absolutely based

This is why ethic-nationalism is the only answer. But for people like you to accept that, you need to get over the free-market worship, and go beyond left and right. Don't corner yourselfinto thinking in black and white.

>America
>and not the EU states with literal pedo death cults
isgp-studies.com/belgian-x-dossiers-of-the-dutroux-affair

fuck off kike

>no conservative has ever wanted more control over things they don't like
Do you even think before you post? It's embarrassing just reading the shit you write

anarchocommunism is a meme. communism cannot exist without centralised authority. so yeah in practice it is the same as social democracy, aka socialism lite

>I can’t find meaning therefore it’s not there

Typical tv post

Indeed, the American justice system revolves wholly about the axis of homosexual rape in industrial prison camps

Careful user, didn't you know? Empathy and community are for faggots.

In don't know if you're trolling or retarded.

australia is white, asian countries, which in particular?

african countries, questionable, most of them have low HDI and low QOL

Should we get rid of the right to counsel too?

There is no majority of Americans any longer, only pluralities.

I'll gladly care for my fellow man as long as "fellow man" means MY people and not shitskins

Actually you’re a little BITCH

AAAA HAHAHAHA

Show me no God's before me, false idols, Lord's name in vain, Sabbath, honoring parents and coveting?
Or do you mean the obvious ones like stealing and murdering? Yeah thank God we have Him or else we never would have thought of those as bad.

Imagine being young enough to not remember the Republican crusades against rock music, hip hop, movies, TV shows, and video games.

IM GAY

what kind you got?

so? how does that change the fact that the left hates free speech and private property and is committed to abolishing both?

Lol true dat.

Only think that keeps me in line desu is fear of being locked in a rape cage getting HIV loads blasted up my rectum

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_systems_by_country
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_universal_health_care#United_States
You're both dumb niggers, go outside and stop "learning" from pol infographs and youtube losers before you shoot up a school or a mosque

What makes him right-wing?

Considering that "Left wing/Right wing" and "communism" are terms that originated in Europe do you not think it's more likely that you guys are the ones misapplying them?
I agree that it's a dumb idea but it's still obviously a very distinct one to social democracy. You can tell because none of the major social democrat parties in Europe are advocating dismantling the state or abolishing private property. Just because a concept isn't workable doesn't mean it is indistinguishable from an extremely different one, are you brain damaged? Do you not realise that abandoning all nuance makes your arguments less convincing not more?

If you believe that you have nothing in common with your fellow man, then you are exactly the type of fellow who's views should be ignored. A polity depends on civic engagement, reason, and communal efforts, always has, and always will. After every few hundred years, a nation just gets jewed up to where removal of offensive elements is necessary, because mindsets of offenders like yourself go under the radar as society becomes chaotic.

we can have ethnonationalism and free markets. they are not contradictory

In hindsight they were right

>the left hates free speech
So do Republicans.

Wasn't it Tipper Gore who ran the PMRC?

His political positions relative to the society he operates in.

user, he is the editor of The Spectator

Based

>so?
So if both conservatives, and liberals, and every political group wants more control over things they don't like (which is what politics is for), then why did you claim it's a particular sin of leftists?

Based

Such as?

Doesn't mean a thing. It's a job.

Just because they have them doesn't mean they provide quality healthcare. I'm too lazy to do this right now, but if you compare some numbers like spending, average lifespan, child mortality etc you'll see what I mean.

>it is a victim complex/gaslighting to rationalise ones own prejudices by claiming to be the victim
hmm funny, sounds EXACTLY like what the kikes and niggers are doing to us RIGHT NOW even with YOUR FUCKING POST IM REPLYING TO

>Doesn't mean a thing

Don't be a petulant child. The existence of a universal healthcare plan doesn't imply the existence of an effective universal healthcare plan. Hard to compare Rwanda with Finland.

My advice to you is to stop getting incendiary right off the bat, and act like an adult. Furthermore, you should look into the raw numbers and data of claims you make, since a host of those nations have institutions too corrupt to function efficiently.

there is no nuance to be applied when both sides support the same things. why should i differentiate between a suckdem and commie when both want guns banned and whites killed?

>Because an excercise in holding Shapiro at a "higher standard" STILL says nothing about the greater point
Because the greater point is that his entire persona is to start stupid controversy that takes away from "larger ideas" but here you are defending him.

They don't understand what it is to be right-wing in western europe.

It's illegal to have opinions like that, so you have full red communists and pinkos that are fine with Islam, outrageous taxes, no gun rights, and no freedom of speech who call themselves conservatives. But what are they trying to conserve as they run their cultures into the ground?

>firefighters dont need to be paid
>I can call any fireman at anytime and they are forced to come to my house no matter what

Yup that's exactly how it will play out, good analysis user. Way to contribute.

>politics is good vs evil

I'm going to be generous and assume you're just underage.

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Correct, but getting there necessitates getting over free market worship. When people believe the free market is god, they are susceptible to the cash-conservative romney tier arguments, like closing off your borders is anti-free market, therefore bad, communist, and we cant have do it.

maybe, but they're not actively trying to end it like sjw media and politicians are

Again you sound like a whiny rape victim.

IT. IS. NOT. MY. JOB.

I. WILL. NOT. PAY.

Stay mad dude. Nothing will happen to me and I’ll continue to have great healthcare while you don’t.

You can’t make me care

>unable to handle criticism, unable to handle critical inquiry, unable to explain oneself and taking it as a personal attack
usually it's the left acting like this dude don't fucking pretend like it's not.

They will have earned their right to exterminate

>It's a job.
Learn to finish reading, user.

>writing conservative texts in a conservative magazine doesn't mean you're conservative

Because that isn't the case, just like not everyone Right of centre wants Jews to be executed and the poor to be left to die. It's easy to just project everything you don't like onto everyone who disagrees with you but it's not accurate or constructive.

Degenerates like you belong on a cross.

i get what you mean but i don't worship the market and there are plenty of natsocs around

>there are actually Shapiro fans on this board

Neil rejects the scientific consensus on climate change, has frequently misrepresented the science of climate change on his BBC programmes, and has frequently invited non-scientists and climate change deniers to debate climate change on his BBC programmes.[44][45][46][47][48][49] According to Bob Ward of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics and Political Science, Neil has "rarely, if ever, included a climate scientist in any of its debates about global warming" on his BBC programme The Daily Politics.[50] Ward wrote that Neil lets inaccurate and misleading statements about climate change go unchallenged on The Daily Politics.[44] He has however pressed politicians who accept the consensus on climate change.[51][46]

>H-he started it!
If he is faking it, then you take the high road instead. Right now you are just wallowing in the shit.

How? You still didn't answer what metric is used to determine this. Do we have a popular vote and whoever wins gets to genocide whoever they want for four year terms or what?

>Just because they have them doesn't mean they provide quality healthcare
The biggest opposition to government healthcare systems are people in America, the nation that has its average lifespan in decline as of this moment
cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus17.pdf
Its better than every man for himself attitudes that prey on greed and selfishness, most governments around the world have healthcare deals done by the governments to ensure a healthy population.

I have a hard time taking anyone serious that prefers private over social healthcare as the default plan for a country.

>I. WILL. NOT. PAY.
Then why should anyone give you anything?

I have to be reading this wrong. It feels like you're implying Shapiro is the best political dialogue we're ever going to get.

>can't elaborate on what he says that's supposedly conservative
Is it that hard? He's just doing a job anyway.

>who is Jack Thompson
How is anyone going to take you seriously when you don't know shit about anything before the 2010s you dumb Zoomer.

If that is what you got out of that, then you are reading it wrong.

it is the case though. name a single mainstream leftist politician or party that doesn't support gun control and nonwhite immigration/population replacement. spoiler: there isn't one

>Doesn't mean a thing

>American conservatives have become so radicalized that they boycott coffee cups for featuring snowflakes on the holidays instead of Jesus
Wow scary. And the radical niggers and antifa and jews? What do they do? Oh yeah they just burn down whole cities, riot constantly, push pedophilia and transgenderism on all the populace especially the kids, etc. But the right boycotted a coffee cup and wants people to say merry christmas and not kill babies? How evil!

Denying climate change makes you a conservative? That's it? There are conservatives who accept the science behind climate change.

All denying it makes Neil is a conspiracy theory moron like vaxxxers.

Just stop, it's tiresome

>no health care
Only mutts believe this
>criminalize abortion even in the case of rape
Even most pro-life advocates make exceptions for rape
>lower taxes on billionaires
Lmao, nazis were all about taxing the rich
>israel should be admired
Lmao they want it nuked

Shitpost. You're describing neocoons at best

Exactly.

wow one oscure guy from 20 years ago who hated video games. is that the best you have?

I am not arguing against universal healthcare, I am simply arguing against the notion that non-white countries have very effective versions of it. It simply isnt common. A number of asian countries may, but its also relevant to recognize theyre using structures directly copied from white cultures.

He campaigned for Brexit, I guess that's "right-wing".

Problem soicuck ?

Funny I was thinking the same of gibs me dats like you.

Oh well, it’s only a matter of time before you die of poor care.

Ta Ta!

I would ask the same as you. I list conservative beliefs and you bring up a conspiracy theory.

>obscure
You're really THAT young, aren't you? Jesus Christ.
I feel bad for ever taking you seriously to begin with, kid. What are you, 16?

They don’t. Stay mad.

lmao calm down

lmao fuck off back to /pol/

Not in England

theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/03/why-communists-back-brexit

What are conservative beliefs?

So get nothing and die? Nice strategy

Fuck america

fuck Chicago

>want them to have more pay, clean air, water, free healthcare and the power to fight back against big banks & big corps
Yeah jee whiz the left is just so great! That's all they wanna do for their people they care for so much :^). Except they fucking hate white people and want them all dead... Soooooooo yeah sorry I'm so radicalized against someone that says they hate me. Maybe you shouldn't say "kill all white people" or "I hate all white people" and people wouldn't get so radicalized so much nowadays.

no i'm over 30, which is why i don't care about children's games

FIRE JAMES GUNN

It appears not all brown people are the same, i gotta go now bb

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If you don't know how can you claim Neil is conservative? This is all so tiresome... Can you list what makes him conservative or not? Share his beliefs, we can discuss them.

Nigga, I'm not the one who interviewed him. I didn't refuse to take "the highroad" with how I handled the interview and instead chose to "wallow in the shit". I'm just saying clutching your pearls and being upset that someone dare bring up Shapiro's stupid tweets, then talk about it like it's a travesty is fucking retarded.

How about the conservative geniuses over at /pol/ who are against

>interracial couples in film
>gays in film
>lesbos in film
>black guys in film
>black girls in film
>brown guys in film
>brown girls in film
>feminism in film
>progressivism in film

Why do they want to censor the artist's vision instead of allowing free expression? Can you answer that?

I am not poor, and have very good care. You are imagining things like Shapiro, entirely baseless assumptions.

Calling for a people's community doesnt mean one is necessarily oneself in poor straights. In fact, the hyper-rich were the patriarchal benefactors of society pre-industrial revolution. Your mindset is the function of bernaysian brainwashing, and israeli astroturfing.

Again, antisocial degenerates like you belong on a cross.

No they weren't

I'm not the guy pressing from before. I'm American so I don't know his stance on anything.

being against something isn't the same as actively banning it through force

Well Labour for one has an immigration policy based on work visas not "population replacement". Even if they were advocating open borders (they're not) this wouldn't be the same as saying the want to kill whites which was your original point. That's like saying wanting closed borders is the same as wanting to wage a genocidal war on all outsiders. See how little digging that took?
Notice how I'm not saying that every conservative is a Nazi and I'm actually pointing out how stupid doing so would be.
Also if gun control is the issue that decides if someone is a "Leftist" or not how do you explain militant armed Left wing groups throughout the world? Surely by your definitions they can't be Leftists since all Leftists want gun control and white genocide?

That doesnt mean anything, Please refrain from doing the go back to pol meme, its useless, and betrays a low IQ.

alright but don't you dare accept help when in the future the services you enjoy are being supplied by shitskins and not your own white race that's dying out because you won't breed

Neil was the chairman of this organization apparently
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Conservative_Students
Their views are explained in the article.

Because that shit serves no purpose other then to bring the downfall of civilization you degenerate soiberal

this

It could potentially be either right orleft, but then again, the terms right and left are a psyop. They are devoid or meaning since the french revolution.

Yikes, just go back you newfags

So they don't want those things to disappear from films?

>rightwing reactionaries screaming that they are the victim and need special treatment
LOL jesus fucking christ the projection holy fuck ahahahahahahahahahaa

Broad assumption is he's a neoliberal conservative mostly concerned with taxes and privatization

That's a party club for students. And the Tories aren't conservative.

newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/12/2018-showed-conservative-party-no-longer-truly-conservative

armed left wing groups want control over the state. if they get it they will ban guns to prevent counterrevolution. that's what happened in every socialist country

>takes /pol/ seriously
t. debased liberal

Which American politicians have been actively banned through force from let's say Twitter?

>I agree with all the policies but have fallen for the identity politics meme so will now vote against my own interests

Almost like the right has a vested interest in making you believe that identity politics is that prevalent

who cares? they don't have the power to do anything about it

So you're saying, we should *CONTINUE* allowing any pregnant women to throw herself down the stairs or punch herself in the stomach while pregnant with no fucking repercussions? Because most sane people would agree, that is not behavior we need to encourage or not punish.

>my source is an op-ed
Come the fuck on user.

Refute the points, I'll wait

So what about Right wing groups that don't advocate free gun ownership? Or how about Canada which has a huge level of gun ownership but also has politics which tend to be Left of the American centre? Again, abandoning nuance doesn't make you seem smarter or make your arguments more convincing it just makes it look like you've done no research and haven't thought things through at all and are just making statements based on gut feelings and tribalism.

He is another annoying cash-boomer neocon. Run of the mill old cash n' taxes anti-racist.

i don't know about politicians but many people labeled "conservative" have been banned for their views, alex jones being one well known case

They were proper conservatives back when Neil was in the club. The article you just posted even agrees with this, you idiot.

>I'm just saying clutching your pearls and being upset that someone dare bring up Shapiro's stupid tweets, then talk about it like it's a travesty is fucking retarded.
I don't care that Shapiro looks like an idiot on TV. I care that when the whole greater philisophical point being asserted by Shapiro is being firmly reject by an interviewer who just could help go straight to tabloid tier tactics and while trying to project that rejection on Shapiro, is the problem and proves Shapiro's greater point.

Of course Shapiros own autism undercut it as well. But that is just a refutation on his personal character. The political dialogue is still shit because it takes two to tango.

My dude, I could set up a one man brothel in some of these shithole countries and literally charge women for my semen deposits

I will be in Heaven with my family by the time that happens and civilization will have destroyed themselves once there are few Whites left

>This far left asshole
HAHAHA

If their weren't TONS of thots literally punching themselves in the stomachs because they got pregnant AGAIN and can't afford another abortion you'd have a fucking point. But society has gotten so god damn degenerate, we're at the point we have to investigate thots for possibly purposely causing a miscarriage on themselves.

On second thought I agree with the op-ed, Tories have been hijacked by Trumpian neo-populists.

>So what about Right wing groups that don't advocate free gun ownership?
what about them? they're just authoritarians like the left
>Or how about Canada
canada's gun laws are nothing like america's and they're under constant attack from gungrabbers. they'll probably lose what little they have in the near future. not a good example

>greater philisophical point being asserted by Shapiro is being firmly reject
Oh, so you're just a buttmad fanboy. Makes sense now, looking back it was pretty obvious.

>American political discourse

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Americans mistake politics for sports/entertainment

It raises some valid points, doesn't it?

>meanwhile in western europe anything nationalistic = nazis
lol

Uh huh sure thing wagie

good.

Me agreeing that the political dialogue as bad and that we should assert an effort to change that makes me a fanboy? Yikes dude.

Patriotism is good nationalism isn't

Okay, so now we're shifting things a little. So is every country without gun laws like the US "Leftist"? If you want to start bringing the authoritarian/libertarian spectrum into this then surely you must also admit that there's a difference between libertarian Left and authoritarian Left in which case your whole point that all ideologies Left of centre are the same is untrue.
How about in terms of fiscal policy, can that not be varying degrees of Left or Right? You seem to be convinced that it's about guns and """""white genocide"""" and nothing else which again is not what these terms mean. I don't think you're very politically literate, and if you are then you're intentionally making poor arguments and misrepresenting terms.

heheh, in the last month they had a fit about 'Easter worshippers'.

PERHAPS there's a sensible medium ground.

finish that cup of soi

It's the same in my country, level headed actual conservatives are losing ground to populist fearmongering """conservatives"""

I can only hope that the populist meme is going to die soon

Find that argument

No, his general conservatism makes him a conservative. Just not by loopy American standards.