REEEEE IT WAS HER TURN!

LITERALLY TURNING HER INTO THE MAD QUEEN OUT OF NOWHERE WTFFFFFFFFF

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lmao. hope she starts burning civilians et episode, femoids will be btfo forever.

NOOOO

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Now they know how we felt with Stannis all those years. Fuck em all. If this show ends with Dany going mad Targ and Jon killing her, I will personally suck D&D's dicks.

>be from inbred fuck family where everyone goes crazy
>wtf why is she crazy too she did a few nice things?!

How tf did they manage to get normies, Yea Forums, and big sjws to hate this season? Really, I'm baffled

At least they left signs Dany would go mad, the Stannis and Littlefinger shit was just random and lazy

She has a point. Dany never randomly killed anyone

Heavenly trips confirm Game of Thrones ending will bring judgment.

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how pissed will they be when she becomes the villain in the books too? it's so fucking obvious it's been heading there for a long time in the books.

The mark of true kino. Bravo D&D

If they fixed the teleportation shit, explained the night king, have main characters die in episode 3, erase that Arya NK scene, and still have Jon kill Dany, do you think Yea Forums in general would have changed its tune?

RAPE BELLS RAPE BELLS DING A LING RING RING
RING RING NEXT EPISODE BELLS MAKE DANY RAPE SO MANY WOMEN AND CHILDREN JON IS FORCED TO KILL HER RAPE BELLS

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IT
WAS
HER
TURN

i just want neo's littlefinger theory to be true.

People who watch GOT as good vs evil should be crucified

lmao hope the leaks are true, the absolute seething will be the only salvage we get from this shitshow

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funny because Yea Forums was seething one episode earlier

>:want to keep her locked up in vaes dothrack when she has a war to fight in meereen and a city to rule
retard

tfw you lived long enough to see Yea Forums come full circle and like GoT again just because its pissing off libs

How was she wrong for this lol even the comments section agree with me

Hopefully Dany and HIly meet the same fate

its even better, she orders all the kids raped instead of burning anyone

The article is technically correct, but D&D are also ruining everything else alongside her.

>she orders all the kids raped

Just like /ourgal/ Hilldawg

it's gonna be cercie that loses it over bells, my man

Wow, my respect for Maisie has actually increased. Maybe the actors should have a writing workshop. Honestly anything would be better than the current writers.

bringing peace by uniting two continents under their rule?

Every 3-4 pages she's braggin about how she is going to westeros with her horde of savage rapists to unmake their "stone houses", shes talking about destroyng people's homes, lives and families and every thot sees her as a heroes. It pisses me the fuck off.

can tipped braziers really do that

>the comments section agree with me
>lowest common denominator agrees with me, thats a good thing, r-right?

I'am not sure if you are trolling or legit retarded, its hard to tell with danyfags.

>randomly
FUCK OFF NIGGERFAGGOT

>"Morally just, militarily astute, consensus-building"
>Absolute monarchy
>Crucifies her enemies
>Burns people alive

Literally what? This person a professor?

killing people to cement your power =/= being mad

Completely different things. Retards have to stop conflating being ruthless with being mad.

>do you think Yea Forums in general would have changed its tune?
You can't please everyone but in my opinion extending this season by at least 2-3 episodes would have allowed for a more epic and deserving ending. But it would not have pleased the tumblr/sjw/lefty crowd. GoT was never about fairy tale endings.

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But what did she do wrong?

EVERYONE is going to hate the finale, aren't they? Yea Forums, Reddit, Twitter, all the normalfags. D&D are going to unite all of us all around the world by delivering something so monumentally shitty that we'll all despise it as one.

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>But what did she do wrong?

They is literaly an entire book series about it, it's called A Song of Ice and Fire.

Hoes mad

I think it was this article that said they planned to be very far away from the internet and drunk for the finale.

Which is just weird with they would have that fan watch party with emilia.

It just looks like we're gonna get a based ending but episode 3 (no main characters dying, Arya shit, NK getting Snoked) pretty much tainted this season. It's a shame bc it's headed in the right direction and ep 2 and 4 were fine. Episode 1 was filler but ep 3 kind of fucked everything up

Nobody can actually name anything wrong kek btfo incels

>literally I have no point - the post

Should've let the 19yo goblina write the show.

Dany doesn't have to be mad to be treated as mad. This is Tyrion's wisdom. Dany doing things that others will, especially with a dragon, can and should trigger people's memories of her father. I think that personally, what she's doing and wants to do makes sense, but no one in King's Landing should want her any more than they do Cersei, which is saying a lot. She's a conqueror and a tyrant in their eyes.

Is there anyway they can win Yea Forums (you) back?

>Jews are hated by everyone
Checks out.

But nobody here can name bad things she actually did in the first 7 seasons. The feminist bitch has a point, dude

>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water.

Not him but if they have Dany go mad and the Dothrakis rape King's Landing they've won me back.

>>>/bye/

The left actually can meme, they just do it 100% without irony

it'll be like the FF7 remake, everyone's going to hate it for one reason or another, and the shit posting is going to bring the entire fucking system down upon our heads

its gonna be biblical

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>people actually think Dany was "good"
lol

nigga there's no dothrakis

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>and the Dothrakis rape King's Landing they've won me back.

dint they all die though?

>have 3 dragons
>chain 2 of them in a dark dungeon and feed them bare minimum
>the 2 get weaker and smaller
>they die
>only one dragon left
>instead of attacking immediately, she meets in hopes of getting her token black c3po back
>black c3po gets beheaded
>she and her top military commander spend 5 minutes making sad/angry face
>fade to black
bravo dabid! !!!

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Then why can nobody here explain things she did so wrong during the first 7 seasons lol

God, I forgot just how dumb that scene was.

if the leaks are true then they already won me, because they finally ruined the show for me in 8x03 so watching all go down for everyone is the most satisfactory ending i can have now

That was only 50% of them

bookfag here
did normies just ignore/forget when she mass crucified children in Slaver's Bay as retribution on their society?

>3/10 goblina has a boyfriend
>i’m a 6/10 but a incel
fuck i should’ve been a actor

>did normies just ignore/forget

It's the sole reason why this show gets any good ratings at this point.

>crucified people
>started a war
>burned prisoners of war
Honestly can't remember much about the earlier seasons though.
She brought tens of thousands with her to Westeros didn't she?

But she was talking about the show and she's right. Nobody here has explained what evil shit Dany did during the 7 seasons

You forgot to highlight that Lindsey here is a professor of theatre. THEATRE.

That's not what happened. But I have a feeling you know this already. This is just an elaborate troll. Step 1: Say something retarded. Step 2: reply from your phone corroborating your retardation.

She crucified people in the show as well you mongoloids.

why not just debunk what he says instead of posting this meaningless response

they all died at winterfell, where was the other half ? you can even see in the trailer for episode 5 there's only a few in the formation

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No, we like it now.

They've made her a Mad Queen-like figure for quite a while. She was heavily giving those vibes literally all of season 7. Only a retard couldn't call that red flag from a mile away.

But she burned and crucified enemies and slave owners. Sounds justified

Why do these idiots think it HAS to be a one person job? It doesn't have to be Jons kill or Aryas, if it was actually well written for one it could have been any number of characters or a team effort even. Giving it to just one person was pretty retarded. Having that person literally jump from out of the frame for the kill is the worst kind of OC imaginable

Because that's the purpose of the troll. To incite nerds to correct him. That's why he was deliberate in announcing his book faggotry.

So if I make someone my enemy I'm justified to crucify them? Is curb stomping allowed as well?

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>Maisie has brains
>Writers don't
Usually actors should keep their idiot mouths shut, but she's right.

hmm well i'm forced to conclude you're talking out of your ass then and he's right. successful troll is successful

I thought she crucified bad people as an example

You can agree with him if you want. I already stated that he's wrong. So if you want to know in what way, then you can search the answer for yourself. Or, just believe him.

She literally contradict herself

Stop using modern morality.

Romans would strangle prisoners of war when doing their triumphs for example.

Starting a war was a glorious thing to do to expand your territory, plus she even did to eliminate slavery, best reason to start a war.

Oh yeah, and people were executed in plenty of bruntal ways, including crucifiction.

Good god, you might as well be a liberal.

she got cucked by bf lmao

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But nobody here have given examples of these vibes. The only people she killed were Lannister and Sam's family bc they were with Cersei (and it is a war) and then the slave owners and criminals

Yeah she crucified people. Stop doing mental gymnastics for a second and just think about that.
And everybody hated the Romans you absolute niggerfaggot.

So slave owners aren't bad and the people fighting for Cersei aren't bad? Lol okay, pacifist faggot

>best reason to start a war.

Yes look at how happy and successful the slaves were after the western countries freed them.

She crucified evil faggots so who gives a fuck. Times were different. There was no constitution at that time faggot

Only the pissweak faggots that were conquered by them.

Everyone praises figures like Caesar for how good they were, no matter if they strangled vercingetorix in his triumph, left a million gauls dead and a million more enslaved and watch the entire civilian population of a city starve to death in front of him to win a war.

Doesn't make slavery okay. Plus, she had no idea about the economic shit, she just wanted people to be free. You may disagree with her, but she had good intentions

So you just didn't watch everyone's very concerned faces all of season 7? Didn't watch her burn or threaten to burn anyone that wouldn't bend the knee? Didn't watch dragon power go to her head? Didn't watch her threaten anyone that challenged her seat at the throne? She's literally burned her way through swaths of guilty and innocecnt to get where she is. You've really ignored all of that? Even Tyrion's very expressive dwarf face at her? You're either autistic or ignoring it on purpose.

>war crimes are ok as long as it's done to people with different morals and laws
Glad we're on the same page.

it's going to be hilarious when jon kills her. nice dubs.

Yea Forums cant name anything Dany did wrong during the first 7 seasons lol

>soldiers who have done nothing besides enlist are inherently evil and need to be crucified
That's next level wokeness.

>this is your brain on normie

Wrong user.

In their view those aren't war crimes, but common and harsh punishments.

See, the moment you consider it a war crime you're already using modern morality

>Stop using modern morality.
>Use modern morality to disregard slave owners as evil

But I guess if it's the Romans drowning you in a barrel or taking you as a slave it's totally okay because it's just glorious war.

Slave owners are evil, jackass. So were Cersei's army

>declare what someone is doing as morally wrong
>murder them
Doesn't sound like something a good person would do.
That's a 7/10 in terms of mental gymnastics. Keep practicing and one day you'll make it to the Olympics champ.
>Only the pissweak faggots that were conquered by them.
>Everyone praises figures like Caesar for how good they were
Nice revionism faggot.

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Okay what the fuck, what's he watching this time? This is a joke right. It's gotta be right? Right???

It's called war, you dumb faggot. If you don't kill them, they kill you without hesitation. You libshits are retarded

Indeed. The gauls didn't even mind being conquered and slaughtered because modern morality had not been invented yet.

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>>Only the pissweak faggots that were conquered by them.
Fine, only the Gauls hate them still, butthurt frogs will always be bbutthurt frogs.
Everyone else likes them.

#YAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS!!

> ...

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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So women are complaining about Dany all over social media. And it's so progressive and important. But a man doing the same on Twitter is a "mediocre white dude whining" because he's privileged piece of trash.

The absolute state of American shit culture. Fucking hypocrisy.

Westeros morality considers slavers evil you fucking retard. Pay attention to the world.

>only the Gauls hate them still
Just stop.

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>So were Cersei's army
What did they do that was evil?

And what if our morality goes back to slavery? Will it be right then too?

go home nigger

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Based GReconguistaposter

>first few seasons people are spared and even respectedd for being honorable enough to follow their leaders
>if it's Cersei's it's instantly evil now
lmao

america must pay for denying abuela hillary her birthright

You faggots are in complete denial. Okay, let me put in another way, because that writer has a point even if she's a feminist bitch. How does Dany go from hating slavery, killing slave owners, burning her enemy like Sam's family during the first 7 seasons, to suddenly kill thousands of innocent people and have kids raped? You know that's a weird transition. It doesn't make sense.

The soldiers were implied to be evil. They aren't. Being in an army doesn't immediately make one evil.

>Literally started praising Vercingetorix in the french revolution
>Game made by french company makes Caesar evil
lol they totally are

The rest of the world name's their kids Caesar, names their emperor's Kaiser, and speaks of the achievements of the Romans.

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Defending the bitch that killed tons of people in that explosion

This is the biggest problem. Cersei at this point is the rightful queen and has done nothing wrong. Aerys getting killed was just. Robert was the rightful heir afterward and Cersei is his wife. Dany chose to invade a peaceful kingdom that didn't need her or want her, leaving chaos behind through the kingdoms she conquered by force, all because she believes she deserves a throne that her father was justly ousted from. Again, Aery's ousting from the throne was just and Cersei (or Gendry) are the only ones with any other claim.

So a character that was always a bit extreme and had a thing for burning their enemies but certainly lived by a their own code of honor is being taken to what is presumably their book ending of going mad and doing something crazy but at breakneck speed due to convoluted events forcing them into this point instead of getting us there at a believable pace? Why does this seem so familiar?

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She's at war with Cersei, retard. They will kill her if she doesn't do it.

You're still equating one individual leader with that of the average soldier. Those soldiers had essentially nothing to do with that explosion.

The High Sparrow was attempting a coup and was already basically there. Maybe she could have done something different, but what? It's a tragedy, but it was necessary.

Fighting in defense of an evil person makes you evil, retard. Plus, they would kill Dany If she didn't do it first

I agree with you, but there's no justly anything. What is just is entirely debatable.

They're taking evil out of the world by killing Dany. You think that gypsy witch that killed her husband and baby was fucking around when she said that Dany's line needs to end? Fuck no. Dany's been an evil piece of shit from the get-go.

She doesn't have to go mad. I doubt D and D or Martin would ever write her to be clearly going mad. You don't have to. You just have to write it so that it's believable to those around her that she is. She's not going to get the benefit of the doubt and she shouldn't because of her father. Tough luck, but when you hold the power of dragons you have to be held to the highest standard.

I'm joking.
>no argument
As expected of a fag/got/.
What was it she said to Tyrion "something something root and stem". Dany is not opposed to killing thousands of innocents she's just had advisers who have prevented her from doing so and the Dothraki just like to rape, if she loses control over them they're just gonna rape.

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"duh she's more bad than good behind the scenes of the public to defend her lineage duh so her army's evil duh"

>killing your captors is madness

Ok, so every soldier in every fighting army in history is evil. Because I have no doubt that any hostile force can always be seen as evil by the opposing side.

Peaceful kingdom? Lol she blew up tons of people in the season 6 finale and certainly isn't breaking the wheel

>lmao. hope she starts burning civilians et episode, femoids will be btfo forever.

She's gonna burn them all. While the Dothraki rape the survivors.

the show was shit after season 3, Its either get sad that it ends so spectacularly bad or find the silver lining.

idk what to tell you man she just isn't likable. every struggle she's had she's lucked out of. we're hopefully going to see the conclusion of that.

Yes, it will be glorious. I can't imagine them pulling a rabbit out of the hat at this point.

But they're fighting for her and she's evil. They could choose to not serve these evil ways

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Everybody hated the Romans unless they were in some sort of beneficial relationship with them.

she would be a disappointment to tywin, aka the perfect prince. cersei did everything wrong, her ego is the only thing that rules every kingdom.

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Martin is definitely writing her to go mad, or at least tyrannical, not that he’ll ever finish. At the end of ADWD she says how she is going to take what’s hers with fire and blood and that would have been at the end of season five of the show. But D&D didn’t know how to write her like that for long or it’s just that they think everything needs to be a shock out of nowhere or something.

Or they're fighting for their country/city/paycheck to feed their families.

They make dany go mad and someone kills/imprison/rape her khal drogo-style then it would be amazing.

people have watched this garbage for nearly a decade and now finally realize its just a shitfest

Then? Oh yeah, being conquered tends to do that to someone. But now we love them!

Yes. It's been at peace for two seasons. High Sparrow was the last thing in the way of that.

The show is highlighting that she can't get away with barbaric shit like crucifying the high class populace in Westeros

>black c3po
kek

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Okay, if you consider what Cersei did as collateral damage (killing innocent people in order to kill a group of tyrants like those religious fucks) then Dany is justified bc shes doing the same thing lol killing innocents at kings landing to break the wheel and destroy evil Cersei and the mountain and that old witchcraft faggot

Tyrranical, but probably not mad in the same way Aerys was.

>thot who no one cared about, if not for dragons somehow deserves throne

Let be serious if GOT dealt with resources to maintain an army danny would have never made it.

>cannot defend the keep
>make people believe she can somehow maintain an army to attack king's landing.

I mean come on , they literally went to the north for free supplies.

WOMEN NEED TO ALL BE KILLED

Germans didn't conquered.

Well, nobody likes expansionist empires right on your borders either.

Retconning the past 4 seasons would definitely make me enjoy it more, even if mostly in a meta-context of me enjoying the mass amount of butthurt that would come from it.

If it's so great then why does Varys dislike Cersei as queen and is pushing Jon to lead?

Calling Cersei evil is stupid. She does what she has to in order to preserve her place. She's keeping things in order. The high sparrow represented chaos and Dany represents the same thing. King's landing was at peace in the beginning of the series with Rob and Cersei. It was at peace when Rob was put down, and it would be at peace if Dany had stayed to the south and Arya still just teleported to beat the Night King. She's not nice, but she's doing what the ruler is supposed to.

She's literally shown more as a conqueror than a ruler, which is why I don't get the whole love of Jon Snow and her.
Her whole shtick was Fire and Blood. A lot of people who fucked her over were her enemies, other were just people who abused of the masses, but she's always been more on the murder and conquering than ruling. Kind of like Robert that was an amazing warrior but a shit king.
The authors can't make that any obvious than the scene where it's shown she crucified even good people in Mereen and with Tarly.
"But they didn't bend the knee!", 99% of Westeros are not with her, that's the thing about her story. She's been only on Essos and everyone thinks of her as a tyrant Targaryen coming for vengeance.

I get why she's a favorite because she's always fucking over slave masters and other fucks in a cathartic way, but she's always been judge, jury and executioner. Sooner or later she'd start burning people for whatever she finds a slight, it's always been the way she's been taught to settle things.

They were basically bordering the whole known world.

That's a whole lot of hate then.

As a staunch contrarian, I'm pretty sure I'll be lapping up whatever they're serving next. Might be GOAT GoT really.

Because Varys is after power and Cersei offers him none. I'm not sure about this, but I also don't think he knows that she's pregnant.

forgot to point out that she never bothered to put any armor on her flying lizards or make preparations for spear and big arrow attacks despite past experiences. and what was the point of bringing her worthless black female c3p0 along on the war trip..."tee hee, we just survived almost dying from ice zombies but now everything's ok and let's go on a boat trip and have a tea party so i need my afro sidekick next to me for girl chat!! XoXo"

also really stupid that the weakest characters survived the dead rising in the stark crypt. this show is a joke and the only value left is the incredible flood of memes. none of us should be paying hbo to watch this garbage.

Why does Varys oppose her and advocate for Jon then? Bc Varys is kinda the moral compass to some degree. I'm just saying, I don't see the difference between Dany and Cersei. I'll concede perhaps both are evil. I just don't understand how Dany went from burning slave owners, freeing people, playing with kids, to suddenly in the last 2 episodes "rape the kids, burn them all". It's bad writing, you got to admit. Where's the buildup to her crazy switch. I never saw the signs

Since Martin claims to not write any straight up bad guys Dany is probably going to look sympathetic from her POV to the very end but everybody else is going to HATE her

no, he found his secret sauce for getting views and he's going to run with it

How can she be a ruler of all these cities at once lol she only has time to fix them and give them the tools they need, then move to the next city, until she reaches kings landing

Which good people did she crucify at mareen?

me

>Tells people to stop using modern morality.
>Uses modern morality when judging slavery
Nigga you dumb.

Good intentions destroyed the entire economy of Slaver's Bay and had the ex-slaves try and sell themselves back into slavery just to keep from starving as disease after disease swooped in behind her while she bailed when it got difficult. She enjoys swooping in with the Fire and Blood and grand gestures, but she doesn't have the slightest knack for ruling.

Dany hadn't lost anyone important since her brother and she just lost two of the most important people to her, while Jon's new revelation has made him distant from her. Plus, she's right next door to her life motivation and doesn't have slaves to free. Even if she's always done things that are "good" she's always used her force to do so. Her reasons for doing so now aren't so just, so the same thing she has been doing will look worse now. Plus, remember that the main reason she did all of that shit was so that she could do this. She freed slaves as a primer to take over a kingdom that doesn't want her. This is who she is and who she has wanted to be.

Varys' writing sucks. That's why he's advocating for Jon. What he really cares about is dragons. He thinks everyone sucks, but that rulers with dragons keep war from happening, and thus, the common folk safe.

Yes, that was within our framework. But Westeros morality considers slavery evil, so they match here.

They probably also see crucifying people as evil. So Dany is evil.

Fucking dumb nigger. It was the slavers who did that.

>It has to be intelligently done
Oops.

>Westeros morality considers slavery evil,
Then they have done a poor job of expressing this save for that one time some crazy dragon bitch crucified a bunch of them.

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Based Maisie roasting the idiot writers. Can we expect more of this now that she's not under their thumb?

>relitigating her worst mistakes
How has GoT done this with Dany?
It also treats it like she's seeking election, ignoring how Varys and Tyrion are also factoring in that Jon has more familial claim.

Joffrey wasn't joking when he said cutting of Ned's head was a mercy, punishment for treason in Britain was being hung, drawn and quartered.

Or plenty of other medieval punishments? Being burned alive, drowned, being boiled alive, having a spike shoved through your butt and come out of your head, breaking them on the wheel

She has a boyfriend?

>turning her into a villain
She's been a villain for 8 seasons.

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I honestly don't remember the scene and can't find it on YouTube, but I'm pretty sure it was on the line of something like a really goodboy master comes to her/is summoned by her and they hit it off pretty well until he mentions that she crucified his father who was literally Jesus Christ and was just about to cure cancer or something and the scene turns awkward. I remember it being around the whole sons of the harpy thing and when she locked her dragons.

Well, Hillary has always been for killing civillians so it works.

I remember this. I think it was on accident though

Engaging in slavery in westeros is punishable by Death.

>mad queen makes no sense
>if I was in her position I'd do [exactly the same mad queen shit they're setting her up to do]

Not just crucified, had to be asked multiple times by innocent people if they could bury these gross rotting corpses since they were still family and deserved some respect in their eyes. She has no understanding of anything besides ruling with a flaming fist, and if it isn't her way she wants it burned.

>save for that one time some crazy dragon bitch crucified a bunch of them.
You realise this happened on a different continent with different moral values, right?

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Well we're not talking about treason are we?

Imagine how many nameless, faceless she's done it to.

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She’s a British slag she’s probably boning some Muslim.

The other's aren't for treason. The example I gave for treason was to contrast what was considered a mercy.

*aren't necessarily for treason

>implying there was anything left to ruin

She wasn't quite a mary sue but she was always one of the worst characters. She just gets shit handed to her and doesn't have to work for victories and rewards at all.

The only times we've seen cruelties like from Dany on GoT is when it's done by other evil characters.

Casuals were a mistake

>Bc Varys is kinda the moral compass to some degree
He's a dude that's after power, but doesn't want to be in a position where's it's obvious he's in power. It's clear as fucking day when he claims to be 'for the realm'.

I can't deny she's cruel in her punishments, just that she isn't out of the norm for the time and she certainly isn't evil or enjoys it.
Not that different from Stannis burning people alive, it can be considered cruel, but he certainly isn't evil or mad for doing it.

Jorah's exile was because he sold people into slavery and fled the country before based Ned could decapitate his ass.

Then why was there a city full of slaves and slave master to be crucified?

Stannis wasn't a good person but even he never talked about killing his enemies in the same way that Dany has talked about it.

Dany becoming Mad Queen was always her obvious end, especially in the books.

In britain, she's an 8 easy

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That city is in another continent user

Shut up slut.

LMAO

its good, I hope stars wars 9 is full of white male privilege at the expense of WOC and LGBTQIA+

>Stannis wasn't considered mad
Stannis definitely wasn't actually mad or evil and the circumstances around what he did are much different than what Dany's done. Stannis didn't want to burn people alive, he begrudgingly did it because the god that he'd seen proof as helping him up to that point wanted him to do it. When Dany crucified half a city and burnt alive the people she was negotiating with under the flag of peace, she did it with a smile on her face and felt fully justified.

Very first episode, Ned beheads a guy for running from white walkers.

desu Dany has been ruthless almost since the start but only in S08E04 do they start showing her as "going mad", which is shitty story telling

I forgot to also say, although Stannis wasn't actually mad he was definitely considered mad by other Westerosi people. Jon put Mance out of his misery, his army deserted him when he burnt his daughter, and Davos flipped his shit.

Is he reading this comment section?

I think part of the problem is that the show frequently portrays her obviously petty and malicious actions as "bad ass" so normies see nothing wrong with her solving all of her problems by setting them on fire. Now that the show is acting like this is actually a problem, they can't handle it.
Like shit, she set an old woman who killed Drogo(the leader of an army of rapists and slavers) by setting her on fire right after swearing that all her enemies would die screaming. This is the origin story of a villain or at least anti hero in any other story. If the show wasn't building towards Dany as a villain I'd think the writers were completely retarded as opposed to only mostly retarded.

The slavers crucified the children.
She crucified the slavers.

Not the same thing niggerfaggot. The guy knew the punishment for abandoning the nights watch, crucifying people because you feel like it is not the same thing as carrying out the law.

Bro it's been obvious for seasons that her ruthlessness is cope for when she fucks up because she can't handle fucking up. Can't get a handle on the secret society assassinating your occupation government? Crucify half the city. Don't know how to stop those pesky natives from trying to retake their city? Meet them at a negotiation parley and then burn them alive. Lords of the kingdom you claim to be the rightful ruler of don't recognize you or your army of foreigners? Burn them alive. Literally every time something doesn't fit her retarded idealistic outlook she dishes out ridiculous punishments, and obviously when shit really starts to not go her way she's going to respond in similar magnitude. At the end of the day, Bobby B was right.

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The only times where her ruthlessness went too far was when she crucified all of those masters without looking into which one was okay with the crucifixion of slave children.

The other time was when she roasted Dickon.

All the rest of the times were basically "YAS QUEEN SLAY" moments. They played up Dany being just far too much. It's like D&D wanted their girlpower bullshit without realizing the ripple effect it had in the very end when Dany goes mad.

As for Dany, she certainly felt justified, they crucified 163 children on her way to meereen and she crucified 163 masters.
It's kind of the same brand of justice as Stannis to be honest.

>that was a different continent
Exactly and you people are double fucking retards. They were legally practicing their trade and she crucified them in their own lands because of it.

>she certainly felt justified
Good for her?

>did not disappoint

too bad that's exactly what it did.

She's from westeros user, she's been taught westeros customs from her brother.

The difference is that Stannis does it because a witch is tricking him with blood magic to think the god of the universe wants him to do it while Dany comes up with those punishments on her own.

I agree, she's always saved by walking in or out of fire, the dragons and similar bullshit. Her "leadership" basically consists of "obey or die". She's never actually accomplished anything with true merit

Both see it as justice.

That's not what I mean, sure Davos helped him out in the siege, but he cut his finger's off for his past crimes regardless.
It's the same kind of ruthless justice.

Nah, she had more. There were more Unsullied, too. Don't worry about it.

Oh wow I didn't think of it that way. You've totally changed my mind you ginormous fag/got/. Thanks a lot.

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I thought it was obvious from very early on that she was going to go over the edge when she got to Westeros and realized that people are even less willing to take her shit there than they are in Essos.

Nope. She's doing the exact same shit, just to different people.

HOES MAD

>She's from westeros
And?

She considers what they do evil, hence, she's sees it as a good thing to free the slaves.

Dinklage has been done for a while too. He's phoned it in since Season 5.

>I guess my character is hyped up to be incredibly smart and clever but not smart enough to realize you shouldn't hide the non-combatants when the lich leading the enemy army can raise the dead.

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You have to be an 8/10 male to get a 3/10 female. It's 2019 you mongoloid. It dosen't work like the old days where people lived in a villaige and you could buy a wife with an ox and a wheel of cheese. The whole world is connected and roastiescan choose the best mate possible, and that's a good thing

But it dosen't matter what she thinks is right.

never thought about it like this

roasties really can't understand the scene with the Tarlys
truly extraordinary

When you have an army, it does.

Oh my gosh, why don't they just bend the knee. Dany is like such a good person.

YAAAAS QUEEEN burn them all.

Yup and her going mad isn't a shock to anyone with brains in their head.

No?

The books were building up towards Dany snapping because she's such an idealist who has the force to back it up.
Eventually she snaps because the world won't bow down to her better future, because it contradicts basic human nature. Dany, having been handed everything her entire life, doesn't understand and realizes that the the world need a benevolent tyrant to rule over it with an iron first.

The show completely missed this development

Dany has become a hero for brain dead women, who see her power as enviable and laudable. In reality Dany is a tyrant and a shit ruler regardless of her sex. Robert Baratheon is literally a better ruler, despite being a drunken mess.

This, this is what would make sense.

it's dothraki tradition to pour gasoline all over their temples read the books faggot

So you dont have brains in your head and this is a shocking turn of events? Must be nice.

When this show first came out the whole selling point was that anyone can die.

She must die. You can't build her up so much and not kill her, and still pretend this show is somehow unique or special.

her going mad? no, it doesn't make sense.
her becoming more tyrannical to change the world? makes more sense.

Captain Marvel hit 1 billion, nothing you irrelevant cavemen on Yea Forums or /pol/ did anything to stop it.

You're stuck in the past and you will die in the pass and no one will remember you.

The Future is feminist.

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>she had good intentions
Most failures do

So you accept they're comparable, good.

>mad
>tyrannical
Whats the difference between those two?

One is mentally diseased
The other doesn't give a fuck what his vassals think

No.

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To continue. Dany wants to create a future where humans won't take advantage of each other, and she quite nearly pulls this off in Essos.
She's consistently baffled by the common people opposing some of her benevolent decisions, such as closing the slave fight pits in Mareen. To her, the ends always justify the means if it means making a world of equality.
The problem is humans don't want to be equal, they want to one up each other, it's just our nature. Dany is above this base nature, doesn't understand it, and her inability to comprehend leads her down the path of the tyrant to create the idealist world she desired.
Ultimately she dies having only wanted to bring peace to the world, and if everybody in Kings Landing had to burn to get the world to bend to her future, so be it.

damn, they might actually make this shit show worth watching.

Not giving a fuck what people think is a mental illness.

But there are people in this thread saying she does want to rule with an iron fist.

I just find it funny that they hated Stannis and Cersei but Dany has done similar things to them both

No, they're just often together.

how the fuck do u become a professor of theatre?
>Professor in the scientific field of theatre

>show is a modern take on the fantasy genre
>women are liberal and empowered
>diversity (aka blacks) everywhere
>STOP shoehorning in your stupid mORals REEEEE

How funny would it be to listen to libs cry as you were machinegunning them into a mass grave?

goddamn I'd probably suffocate.

>doesn't understand the morality of the different nations in Planetos

But the best you can come up with for how they're different is the legality.

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Not this time.

I don't think her goals are explicitly about equality, so much as they are about opening up the system that's in place which she views as cruel and unfair. She seems fine with the hierarchy and differences in wealth wherever she goes, just so long as people can have some kind of self determination.

then it wouldn't make sense.

Thats because your brain is the size of a pea.

We all knew she was a power hungry psycho since like 5 seasons ago

That's a huge difference and no it isn't the only difference.

And yet yours can't see the clear difference between those 2 cases? I think a pea wold be considered a planet compared to the size of your brain.

Maybe. I always viewed Dany's Essos Saga from the books as a view into her return to Westeros. Everywhere she went in Essos, she was opposed by the people in power who wanted to keep their own positions. When she gets to Westeros, the whole thing is going to start all over again with the plots and secret Alliances.
Dany is going to get tired of it and make her better future by force

Remember how people said Cersei was evil for what she did to the sand snakes?
Remember when people thought Dany was right to make the king of Qarth starve to death in his own vault?
Remember when people said Cersei was evil for blowing up the Sept of Baelor because they were going to imprison her?
Remember when people said Danerys was based for burning down Vaes Dothrak because they were going to imprison her?

There is literally no difference between madness and tyrannical behavior

>You may disagree with her, but she had good intentions
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dany personifies this.
She's dumb, entitled, and narcissistic. She's caused massive upheaval everywhere she went.
>But but slavery is baaaad, so she is justified.
Well then, why is she leading a pack of the world's worst rapists and slavers, the horseman?
>She has retarded advisors
Well then, who picked those retards?
Face it, she is a dumb cunt.

>Captain Marvel
Who?

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/madness
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tyrant

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>Watches 8 seasons of GoT
>Only with 2 episodes left questions the quality of writing

Of course they say this when she's finally becoming a good character

>The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Dany personifies this.
Yes.
>She's dumb, entitled, and narcissistic.
No.
She's ignorant and was a bit entitled.

>She's caused massive upheaval everywhere she went.
Yes, first point you brought up.

>Well then, why is she leading a pack of the world's worst rapists and slavers, the horseman?
It's her people? I don't doubt she wants to change their ways too.

>Well then, who picked those retards?
Literally some of the smartest and most capable men in westeros. The only reason they are retarded now is because the writing got absolutely retarded and contradicted their previous characterization, which is what broke everyone's sense of disbelief.

dany crucified children aged 12 up

>After 8 seasons I have just realised Dany's character is more nuanced than I was led to believe

Sunday can't come soon enough for these post S4 showfags
Going to be glorious

we are in grrm territory now bois.

We are talking bout the behavior of a tyrannical leader and that of a mad one not the literal definition moron.

>tyrant
Burns his daughter for the "good" of his people
>mad queen
Burned and crucified people because she doesn't like them regardless if its good, bad or even a good idea considering the consequence.

>should say good thing about hillary
>still have nothing good to say about her

why cant they practice what they preach?

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>Brainlets didn't notice she was a pissy entitled baby with nothing to back up her authority other than fire immunity and dragons
>Always short tempered
>Always holier than thou
>Always ingratiating people to her with favours
>Later seasons literally no argument other than join or die because she thinks she's the rightful queen of everything
>Literally does the same thing as Robert Baratheon in Meereen, except he was even more legitimate due to the insane ruler and a grandmother who was of the original royal dynasty
>Burns honorable people who refuse to kneel to prove a point

She's always been a villain. An extremely unreasonable one. Her scenes are just shot from the perspective of her supporters.

writing long articles about this show before the season has finished is really stupid

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And they can be wildly different.

>mad queen
>too paranoid to leave their bedroom and stays hiding while someone else rules

>tyrant
>passes unpopular reforms forcefully

Jesus Christ HILLARY WAS A HUGE WHORE. SHE SOLD URANIUM RIGHTS TO THE RUSSIANS, PROMISES OF WAR TO THE ISRAELIS, SHE WAS A FUCKING WHORE. Feminism is a fucking mistake I swear to God the Muslims have that one thing right.

>The only reason they are retarded now is because the writing got absolutely retarded
Wait what?
So your reason that Dany isn't shit, is that the writers are trash? I mean they are, but the book Dany is also shit.
She's not "a little" entitled. She's 100% entitled. She's joffery with a-cup tits. She's cersi with a dragon. She's walder Frey, minus a large family.
>I was born, thus I should be the ruler
That's her whole objective in life.

She's crazy bro get over it.

No, the reason is that her picks are completely correct in universe and from a meta view.
The only reason it's a even a such a problem is because the sense of disbelief was completely shattered.

>I was born, thus I should be the ruler
That's literally the law.

bend over

>Ayy lmao i'm going to conveniently abuse dothraki rules and customs when it fits me and act like the mother queen of all dothraki, then ignore their sacred laws when its inconvenient to me xD

>arguing in favor cultural sensitivity
Are you a lib?

>assistant professor
>of theatre

Let me spell out to you how laughably meaningless that title is. A hobo on the street could be an assistant professor in theatre -- their job is to direct some black box bullshit plays no one will ever see and provide an elective space for kids wanting easy credit hours. CNN literally hired some crazy lady off the street whose credentials are watching a shit ton of HBO, working at a school with barely 2000 students, and co-penning an $85 (likely class-required) book chock full of academic fluff and babble about how the Iraq War influenced theatre or some shit: palgrave.com/gp/book/9783319943664#aboutBook

>I don't doubt she wants to change their ways too.
Yes, she might as well be a walking libshit with problem glasses. She wants everybody to change their ways and offers nothing to replace it. Take Romans, they conquered, but made damn sure that they taught the people their philosophy AND let them keep some of their customs. Biggest empire in the world, lasted thousand years.
Mongols on the other hand had overwhelming force to roll over everybody, but they never gave a shit about propaganda and so even though fifth of the world population has Mongol genes, their presence in culture is non-existent.
Daenerys is usurping tyrant and nothing else.

>People actually think this is a strong/intelligent Dany moment and not shitty lazy YASS QUEEN writing

>That's literally the law.
No. Or she'd be pushing John to rule.

>Strawmanning because you know you're wrong
You can't justify murder by calling them captors when she should be there willingly to begin with. She's a hypocrite who uses rules when they favor her and then indiscriminately murders people when they don't.

She didn't know about jon before now did she? If you spent a huge chunk of effort going after something, you're not going to instantaneously change your mind.

What about threatening/alienating your closest allies and supporters? Is that something non-mad rulers do?

The only thing that keeps me going is the schadenfreude we're going to get from Reddit and the normies.

It will be GLORIOUS.

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She's always been more of the mongol type of conqueror, she has their versions of mongols following her.
But I'd say it's mainly because of her ignorance in what would happen if she got rid of slavery.

She's was sold to the dothraki, she was not born in their culture and she didn't share their values.

Pretty big difference.

Like when robb beheaded Karstark?
Or broke his oath to the Freys?
Or when Jon betrayed the Night's watch to bring the Wildlings?
Or when Littlefinger gave Sansa to the boltons?
Or when Littlefinger killed Lysa?

That argument loses any weight when she tries to pull this "khaleesi" bullshit. You can't cherrypick when to follow their shit and when to just murder them as its convenient.

Yeah, I like the cute little toad, the character is badly written, but she is ok. Seems like she genuinely likes the settings.

>Like when robb beheaded Karstark?
The Karstarks alienated themselves, they forced Robb's hand and he had no choice.
>Or broke his oath to the Freys?
Stuck in a shit situation he did what he thought was right and then died for it, not 'mad' by any stretch of the imagination.
>Or when Jon betrayed the Night's watch to bring the Wildlings?
This didn't happen, he never betrayed the Night's Watch
>Or when Littlefinger gave Sansa to the boltons?
This is just bad writing and makes no sense within the story.
>Or when Littlefinger killed Lysa?
Murdering a person who is in love with you is definitely insane.
So your defense of Dany being mad is examples of Jon/Robb that aren't mad at all, and then fucking Littlefinger who is clearly crazy and not someone Dany should be emulating. All that on top of the fact that no one ever said Robb or Littlefinger weren't mad to begin with.

>overlooking her accomplishment
Well, from a certain point of view the Libya was a success, that point of view being staunch neo-con.

She doesn't share their values, you can see that from the moment of her life with the dothraki, like when she saves the women.
But she does seem them as her people.

Or you could just call her ruthless for cementing her power.

Oh no, I'm saying that dany isn't mad.

>watched dispassionately as her brother was golden crowned
>burned a woman alive
>locked her then best friend in a giant empty vault
And that was just seasons 1 and 2. She's always been crazy

Yeah your argument is "Dany isn't mad... because littlefinger also did crazy stuff". Threatening Jon is mad, rushing from the long night straight into another battle is mad, burning local lords who didn't do anything wrong is mad, throwing a hissy fit when she realizes she isn't fit to be queen is mad.

>>watched dispassionately as her brother was golden crowned
You do realize her brother had become abusive and sold her to the dothraki?
After he threatened her baby and her.

She does feels guilty about "betraying" him, even if he deserved it.

>>burned a woman alive
She killed her husband and baby

>>locked her then best friend in a giant empty vault
She betrayed her to people who wanted to enslave ker and her dragons, in the deleted scenes, the girl also killed one of her people.

So, like it was pointed out before, yes, she is ruthless in her punishments, but she isn't crazy.

sex is overrated tbqh

>>>What about threatening/alienating your closest allies and supporters? Is that something non-mad rulers do?
I was giving examples to this, ie something non-mad rulers do.

>burning local lords who didn't do anything wrong is mad
They refused to swear fealty to her. What is she gonna do? Exile them? When they made it clear that wouldn't care and she can't enforce it because she hasn't taken full control of the land?

If anything she kept her word, and he was one of the enemy's best commander, too dangerous to be let go.

>Threatening Jon is mad
>throwing a hissy fit when she realizes she isn't fit to be queen is mad
Lover's quarrel

> long night straight into another battle is mad
It would be one or 2 months, maybe more since it's winter to march to king's landing.