HBO's Chernobyl

13.05

You mean 5/13, silly.

Delusional.
this is merely a little bit of feedwater.

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You heard me/You saw right!

Has that guy got his water in the reactor yet?

My sight is right but the object of my sight was wrong. Small numbers go on top of big numbers!

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Comrades, me must organize into one thread.

Not on this side of the ocean they don't. And we don't want any of that lgbt stuff here in EE neither.

Please keep these threads going. Finally some fresh memes and something other than /got/ and Alita memethreads which are stale as fuck.

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>think nuclear power plants are fucking awesome
>they just heat up a bunch of water

I dont know what I was expecting really

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Let’s just hope the other episodes don’t leak early and we blow our discussion load in one week like what happened with The Terror?

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Its basically a huge pressurized pool with a bunch of uranium rods and what not immersed in water to boil it to steam. It's actually very mundane and boring, only interesting to some people because they don't realize it wasn't a nuclear bomb that went off, it was a steam explosion.

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>20 minutes in
i'm pretty sure radiation cannot cause open wounds like it does in the show.

But they harness the power of the sun using metals to heat up that water. Cooler that lighting random shit on fire underneath.

It does once your skin falls off.

Well they do it by splitting atoms so they're still cool.
Also, when fusion becomes viable it's just gonna be used to heat water and turn a turbine anyway.

DUDES! CHECK THIS OUT!

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comrades, keep your mind on your labor and leave matters of the state to the state, stop undermining your fruits of labor

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>It does once your skin falls off.
that takes days

Who was this guy again?

maybe the explosion was the reason for the open wounds

Depends how intense the burn is

It doesn't happen in minutes, but it happens in hours. Radiation will LITERALLY make your skin fall off.
That kind of exposure to DNA will break your dna apart, it is probably the worst way a human could die in, read about it and be horrified.

Old commie cocksucker that got thousands of people killed.

So what made it so catastrophic?

Why wouldn't they have a blowoff valve or something in case the pressure gets too high? Obviously can't blow off into the atmosphere but, could into another big tank...

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Chuckra Sneedkov

it wasnt. a guy picked up some graphite. and a couple of minutes his entire hand was an open wound.
look up the effects of radiation poisoning. you become sick at first. start throwing up. but it takes days for the real shit to kick in.

youtu.be/8uGWnW_3RA0

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Aye Tony I’m standin’ right here next to tha ting and it ain’t doing shit. I feel fine. Gettafuckouttahere

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Because it released the material in contact with the radioactive core.

Watching this makes me wanna play New Vegas

i believe he was the honourable member of the committee

No the workers and firefighters started swelling and turning purple and black within hours. They were puking and complaining of burns within half an hour.

He orders them to cut phone lines and for police to encircle the city so that the people can't leave. They evacuated the city 36 hours after the accident.

I know what radiation poisoning is. What I'm saying is enough radiation can actually give you burns and blisters and your skin can come off that way

Please do not respond to tripfags.

the firefighter picked up a part of the core, your skin starts to melt from excessive radiation

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youtu.be/D_MfnF7Txyo

depends on the radioactivity, dont know about the guy who lent on the door but the dude picking up a part of the actual core would get fucked up in a few minutes

that picture was taken several days after exposure.

Chernobyl is literally a special case in history in which the radiation poisoning levels were higher than anything encountered by humans. Most cases of radiation poisoning are around 10-25,000 rads. Chernobyl has like 4 times that and that’s only because the meters maxed out and couldn’t get a better reading beyond that.

Radiation burns are a thing, he touched a piece of the nuclear reactor itself, he wasn't lightly bathed by radioactive fallout from ash or something like that thing. Please become informed.

Because when he pulled the glove he also ripped his burned skin from his hand.

This and recent WOOP WOOP PULL UP threads.
I guess /histv/ is a patrician combo.

>American tv show
>takes place in soviet russia
>"Should we have the actors speak russian with subtitles?"
>"meh, just give them british accents. nobody will tell a difference"

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The guy that held the door survived and lived for 25+ years. He said he drank some vodka at work that night before the accident. The two dudes who went in died shortly after.

Based commissar

Maester Luwin
F

Is there some kind of manga that explains how nuclear energy works? I feel like such a brainlet but is it just different types of elements/minerals reacting to water?

wtf spoilers we dont even know if the core has exploded yet, they can probably just lower the rods back in

pic was several months, but touching part of the core without protection will lead to blisters and wounds in a matter of minutes

It was likely wounds caused by the superheated steam. Water boils to steam at 100c/212f but in boilers the boiling point is usually higher due to the fact that pressurized water has a higher boiling point and that in order to move steam through a system before it can cool enough to condense back to water it has to be superheated, meaning water is boiled to well above its point of vapour enthalpy so that it doesn't lose latent heat and turn back into condensate until after it goes through whatever process it's intended for (turbines, etc). In addition, water expands 1600x when it vapourizes into steam, meaning one cubed foot of water expands almost instantaneously into 1600ft3 of steam.

When the reactor exploded it was a steam explosion, and many of the people in the area got literally fried by the superheated steam.

>Getting drunk in STALKER to reduce radiation poisoning was based on a real thing

Well I’ll be damned

>dont know about the guy who lent on the door
Yeah what was the deal with that guy? Can the door become irradiated or something?

It's literally just heat generation user. Nuclear fuel just happens to be way more efficient at heat generation than burning coal or wood.

Even Dyatlov couldn't deny it at the end.

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please provide a source confirming that. when the trailer dropped and showed his skinless hand, i tried to find any evidence of this shit occurring. but i couldnt find a single mention of more or less instantaneous damage from radiation, as we see in the show.

>all of his skin fell off
>most of his cells didn't have any genetic material left to replicate
>still kept alive plugged into the machines
why the fuck did they even keep him around? just to make him suffer? why didn't they just give him something so he just gave up the ghost in his sleep?

rip ouchi

He was just pretending he was sick once he realized he fucked up.

meter says 3.6rads, high but not catastrophic

I know it's fucked up but I want another nuclear disaster to happen. It's so interesting.

Alcohol actually helps with not getting irradiated since it enters your blood. Red wine contains strontium-80 which prevents strontium-90 from getting into your bones.

Da fucks da problem? look there is this highly efficient, and safe energy source.It is fudking natural, and all you gotta do is higher dem university pussies, why everyone in da gubermint a buncha pussies if you ask me 'Tone

lol at the guy who got fucked to go look at the reactor when dyatlov got sick. total chad move

I just want to find some good documentaries on nuclear power and these disasters

basically the guy and his family begged the doctors to kill him, eventually he was like a guinea-pig for the radiation research, japanese people are rough

does it work the same way on ships?

is this series worth it

>After the Chernobyl nuclear disaster of Ukraine in April, 1986 people were advised to drink red wine or vodka in order to neutralize radio-active toxic effects. A study by the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine in 2008 concluded that Resveratrol, the natural antioxidant commonly found in red wine and many plants, might offer protection against radiation exposure, and when altered with acetyl, resveratrol administered before radiation exposure proved to protect cells from radiation in mice

For science! Nobody had received that kind of dose and they wanted to see what happens. He was begging to be let to die.

He'll make it, right?

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youtu.be/FfDa8tR25dk

reminder to check out this short documentary filmed by one of the roof top cleaners.amazing footage of the absolute nightmarish hell the cleaners had to go through.

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learn yourself

Yes.

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As a raging alcoholic I suddenly feel safer standing directly in front of the microwave while it runs

>another Jared Harris kino series

I am really happy for that.

if your talking bout sopranos fuck yeah

I wonder why he disappeared from the Expanse

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you have to drink before using the microwave, during or after consuming vodka wont help you

>stands right over a blown reactor core
>face instantly gets microwaved

He’ll be dead in a week

So why is that part still burning? If the core is, dare I say, gone, than why would the bottom still be burning?

damn user where did you get a microwave with a nuclear reactor?

microwave radiation is non-ionising dummy

It's shielded while closed. To test this, unplug it, put a phone inside, close the door and call that phone from a different one. It shouldn't be able to go through. If it does go through, the microwave's shielding is bad and you need to get rid of it.

because the nuclear material is still active and hot enough to turn into a giant microwave

The nuclear fuel is still there and it's still burning.

He died on May 30th that year so more like a month.

jesus CHRIST

Everything about it so fucking depressing.
With the immediate worry of the flooded basement taken care of, the next problem was the earth beneath Chernobyl. Miners were brought in to dig a 150 meter tunnel underneath Unit 4, where a special refrigeration device would be installed below the building, in an attempt to cool the core. Scientists worried that pneumatic drills would stress the building’s fragile foundations, so the miners were ordered to dig their tunnel by hand. They worked 24 hours a day and achieved their goal in a month, but many of them later died from exposure, and their refrigeration device was never used - the core cooled down by itself.

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The eternal hate of the slavic peoples

>braaaaaappp

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Mm mmm nigga I ain’t clickin dat shit

i dont know any details but there were quite a few security devices and protocols that should avoid such an explosion but the operators switched them off and ignored the protocols so they could have an easier time with the experiment.

apparently some of the operators were scrubs with little experience

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The core is lots and lots of rods filled with uranium. They got too hot and melted everything in their way. The explosion also dislodged a 500+ ton biological shield and threw it in the air where it crashed back on the reactor. Sand and water barriers were also fucked and got mixed with the nuclear material to form corium aka the elephant's foot.

every day is a gift!

HBO shill

>go dig a hole comrade, oh and do it by hand, and don’t stop until we say
>glorious work, but we no longer need to use the device you dug for
>oh you’re badly infected with radiation, tough luck, the motherland thanks you for your service

Fucking commies

Hooooly shit, now I fucking get it. So that fire is literally spewing death at a rate that hard to quantify. That's fucking horrifying.

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Dis shoe any gud?

i think only 31 people died total

Yeah, it created something people hadn't seen before, which was basically radioactive lava, the stuff the elephant's foot is formed when it cools down.

Who the FUCK would go down there to clean up? It was 1986, they had to have some idea of the danger.

Apart from the anglo accents and some shoehorned sjw stuff, yeah it's not bad.

Why didn't anyone have to go poo poo? That's a side effect of radiation poisoning.

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the deaths weren't even inevitable, they were drinking from open containers into which radioactive dust fell, if they had sealed their water they would have only got relatively mild poisoning

it was a good time, contrary to myth there were almost no cancers

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Yeah, and then you get interested in the history so you spend hours reading about nuclear power, radiation poisoning, and the accident.

They were more afraid of the state than of the radiation. Even so, if certain measures hadn't been taken the situation would have been worse.

he should be back in the next season

They didn't put the refrigeration device there but did pour a lot of concrete to prevent the corium from melting further down. Thankfully it hasn't moved from its initial position.

>shoehorned sjw stuff
where? I haven't noticed a single thing.

anyone else kinda get sick to their stomachs watching the first episode?

moron

you know this guy is going to be a huge crybaby. 2roentgens is like a day in colorado.

Well, there's that one time a woman does something. That's really bad.

Yeah. Pretty disturbing really.

the whole thing is leftist propaganda you cuck

oh no the soviets had female doctors who knew things about radiation oh god how historically inaccurate

Now why the FUCK would we store iodine pills? Are you stupid?

Once this show is done they should do Centralia, the Silent Hill town. Fucking coal mine fire has been burning nonstop since 62.

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they used robots to clean the shit off the roofs but there was too much radiation the robots broke. so they ordered a special radiation robot fromsome other country i can't remember where
and they helicopter dropped it onto the roof or some shit
and it wouldn't work so they send army guys move it because they think its trapped in rubble or something, actually whoever ordered the robot was too embarassed to admit how much radiation was on the roof so downplayed the numbers, the robot got btfo probably before it even landed.
oh fuck here it is actually based user thank you how shit is the american education system so dogshit that people don't know what a nuclear reactor core is?
we learned this in high school physics.

Emily Watson’s character is entirely made up and a STRONK woman who challenges the Soviet higher ups who try to cover up the accident

Some small amounts of corium were formed at Three Mile Island but Chernobyl had lots and lots of it.

The guy standing on the roof looking at the reactor died a month after he did that. And all that smoke and ash drifted over Europe and the world. That's why they built the sarcophagus. The lava inside has hardened on the outside but is still warm on the inside and will remain so for a while.

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The most interesting fact is that the plant had 3 more of this reactors. AND THEY WERE STILL ACTIVE TILL THE FUCKING 2000! THE PLANT WAS WORKING ALL THOSE 14 YEARS

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Yeah let's hope.

You had the nurse telling a doctor about iodine pills.

Then you also had the wife of the firefighter having to tell mean ol man-neighbour that it could be dangerous to take a closer look at the nuclear power plant fire while he scoffs at the mere thought.

And from some leaks apparently there will be a made up woman character as part of the committee who will offer up revolutionary ideas to Gorbychev or some shit like that.

how far away are you from a nuclear plant, Yea Forums?
me, 30 kms

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>show how soviets don't care about the people and would rather keep them in dark about slowly dying due to radiation poisoning than having themselves look bad in front of the west
>bruh sjw leftist propaganda!

to calm down hysterical women losing their shit over a simple hydrogen explosion, that bitch needs a double dose while the men lower the fuel rods and get back to business

MISTER HICKEY

Aye Paulie, I don't think we findin dat Checkoslavevoki guy here. What da fuck are we doin?

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How are the first two lines sjw?

yea that real life recording really caught me off guard

dude holy fuck have sex

It made me uncomfortable for sure, very well done in terms of how eerie and ominous it was portrayed

>Then you also had the wife of the firefighter having to tell mean ol man-neighbour that it could be dangerous to take a closer look at the nuclear power plant fire while he scoffs at the mere thought.

Fucking kek

I'm not sure what youre asking so ill try to clarify with the basics.

The majority of power generation occurs through steam processes. Water is a cheap and abundant and easily controlled resource, non-toxic and non-flammable. But in order to utilize steam, special vessels have to be created to both generate and hold in the pressure. These are called boilers (pick related is a 1-pass firetube boiler). A heat source (burning natural gas/oil in pic) warms up water until it reaches the point where it 'flashes' (vaporizes) into steam. When water turns to steam it expands 1600x, meaning it will follow the path of least resistance and exits into steam lines which are directed to prime movers such as turbines which utilize the steams energy. For example, when steam hits the blades of a turbine the pressure acts on them and causes them to spin.

The principal remains the same for boilers (reactors) that utilize nuclear materials, it's simply that instead of utilizing natural gas or coke or oils as a heat source, nuclear materials are used as the heat source to boil the water to steam.

Boilers are used for many different functions, including on many larger ships as possibly both a heating source and a source of propulsion. When you think of a nuclear submarine or the like, you're not thinking of an engine where they literally pour uranium into the gas tank, you're actually thinking of a ship which has a boiler where the water is boiled by nuclear heat sources. It's all very simple and mundane in concept.

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I'm sure this tripfag isn't a complete moron and everything he is saying will be proven to be true.

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>this based stalker ascetic
maximum comfy

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youtube.com/watch?v=zuNtgYtF4FI

Brruuhhhh

Is, is that who I think it is?

>muh SJW's
cheers for the laugh

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They should do a series about the Apollo Affair, where Israeli agents dumped a bunch of uranium waste into the environment in Pennsylvania to cover up their theft of uranium for the Israeli nuke program.

Were they tasting metal because of the radioactive dust or their own blood?

Well for one, a doctor should have more experience and qualification in medicine than a nurse. And secondly, the man who scoffs not only scoffs at the very real she posits while he's standing their with a baby stroller, but we're also expected to believe that she knew more than this other guy just because her husband was a firefighter, even though they all lived in a town that was basically right next to a nuclear power plant.

>many of them later died from exposure
no they didn't, prove it

less than thirty people died it was just a big industrial accident

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She's a composite of female scientists who helped when the accident happened. The SU had a lot of female doctors and scientists compared to other places. And we already have the glasses dude who hangs himself that tells them they're retarded and the situation is worse. She comes and says he's right.

The wife doesn't say anything it's the other woman who points out that tell that guy to shut up because her husband is a firefighter. He might be in danger even if it's a regular fire.

>lethal in 500 seconds
so what is that guy doing there?

That's beside the fact and it happens after the moment he scoffs.

yikes

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the word youre looking for is aesthetic

getting the fuck out of there in under 10

>Women can't possibly know anything
Have sex.

Literally word for word this is being shilled in every Chernobyl thread. How much is HBO paying you for this gay shit?

Madone...

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I'm not sure. My dad had radiation cancer treatment and food tasted metallic to him after.

She's also a doctor.

Should be Ton' or Tone or Toan or Toane, but not 'Tone

>And from some leaks apparently there will be a made up woman character as part of the committee who will offer up revolutionary ideas to Gorbychev or some shit like that.
doubt

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A billion per post.

>communists are literally the bad guys
>leftist propaganda

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it's cruel not to kill them

>calling a doctor a nurse

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This might come as a shock but most anons aren't nuclear engineers and have no idea how a nuclear power plant or its components work.

For me it was what that guy with the stroller said. The fire's over there and we're over here. That really stuck with me. Like how unfathomable the actual threat was. Mad stuff.

My parents told me about all the precautions they had to take and I live in Western Europe

>helos
>robots
>atleast 30 souls
what else did the core consume?

someone describe this to me, im not clicking i'm a faint hearted girl

>what are probabilities and compound factors

Like I said, one is a doctor while she is a nurse. By virtue of their positions (and age) the doctor should know what iodine pills are. And frankly, even commoners know that fact. That's just historically inaccurate on all regards.

As for the second guy who scoffs at the wife, like I also said, he also has a baby with him. Not only am I supposed to believe he's clueless about the possibilities of danger of the nuclear powerplant he lives next to, but he's also willing to risk his children's lives all because he is just a dumb common man. Again, just because something is possible in the realm of extremities, does not mean it is possible on average. This is why we have the bell curve, folks.

taking pictures, maybe for instagram

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so red wine+iodine drops basically make you immune to radiation and should be added to shtf bags?

these threads are just bots talking to bots lol

Who was the guy at the beginning talking about? The one who deserved death instead of prison? was it that foreman who was in the wrong?

CUTE
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Dyatlov iirc

ouchie

thats not ouchi fellas, thats a complete unrelated guy. most likely a car accident victim

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why is he taking photos? why not send in a robot for that?

is that this guy?

He was delusional and most likely in shock

Commoners know about iodine because of Chernobyl.

Take few shots of "Cossacks", it should help

Everyone but you was aware of this.

a collection of images capturing the progression of mr. ouichi's condition
layers of him progressively melt away

Google what radiation does to electronics

dyatlov

Not immune. Drink before exposure and it will help a bit.

Sounds fucking awesome

The robots didn't work because of the radiation.

>that dude waving his hand

>And secondly, the man who scoffs not only scoffs at the very real she posits while he's standing their with a baby stroller, but we're also expected to believe that she knew more than this other guy just because her husband was a firefighter
what kind of retardation is this? yes, thick skulled Russians exist, your point? it would have soothed your autism if he was a thick skulled Russian woman?

shoulda gone to the infirmary

i think radiation fucks up the remote controls.

the robot rolls up to the foot and doesnt come back when you whistle

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yea

think about a humanoid figure made of red colored candle wax, held over open flame long enough that it melted a little.
except the wax is flesh and the flame is radiation.

>too dangerous for robots
>send in the slavs

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don't try this at home kids

the graphite moderator is made of carbon, similar to charcoal. with oxygen and heat (from radioactive decay in the fuel) it will burn just the same as charcoal.

Radiation is so high that even robots suicide themselves.
“At the beginning, we thought that in some extremely contaminated zones we would use robots,” wrote Igor Kostin in his 2006 photo-book ‘Confessions of a Reporter’. “We had even sent a very sophisticated German robot to the plant’s roof. But he refused to obey - the radioactivity had disturbed even the machines. Afterward, he rolled over to the edge of the roof and threw himself from the top of the plant. One might have thought he had jumped.” Hardened vehicles like the STR-1 survived the radiation, but then became tangled in the debris.

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robots only make the core stronger
its calling them

And humans would be better? If it is going to fuck up electronics probably shouldn't be anywhere fucking near that thing.

lol yeah that makes no sense.

Why every time anons discuss something that's not disney or capeshit they get accused of shilling? Same happened with the Blue Book.

>he rolled over to the edge of the roof and threw himself from the top of the plant. One might have thought he had jumped
this isn't cheeki breeki anymore

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I think you will find that people who work with radiation on a day to day basis actually know less about it than an average person.

there are many examplesbut here is one:
www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/Pub847_web.pdf

"The three men then paid out the cable over the top of the source rack frame-work to lower the source rack into the pool. After about two metres of cable had been paid out, the source rack reached the surface of the water, and the men saw the blue glow due to Cerenkov radiation. Worker A was surprised at this and, on fully lowering the source rack, he told his helpers to withdraw quickly. At this point, apparently, he began to suspect that there was some kind of hazard, but not how lethal it was. On leaving the radiation room, Worker B noticed the portable radiation monitor some distance away from the irradiator and asked what its purpose was."

It had to be done and when robots fail you send bio-robots.

its pretty much over now tho, theres no more smoke.

I don't know. What a bummer Blue Book was though. Such potential.

what are the square things?

No, the robots just didn't work you fucking idiot, and people would be relatively safe if they wore the proper clothing and spend a minimal amount of time in those areas.

Do you think they cancelled the AM Zumba classes?

RAPE OF NANKING 1937 MASSACRE OF NANJING 1938

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what happened to blue book? i never finished it

Because the two you first mentioned actually have the money do shill and that's what you're seeing. "Don't watch this crap, watch our cool stuff".

fuck off commie

Slavs stop working after they come back. Robots break on the way there.

youtube.com/watch?v=gxEPV4kolz0

Yes, yes, it's totally possible. The utopia is right around the horizon, comrade! Just keep believing!

>i never finished it
exactly. It just sucked. It had terrible writing.

pretty sure they measure by the hour, so one day at 3.6 is like 40 days in colorado

>totally impossible for big fucking subhuman Russians to exist
uh huh, got anything else for me?

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>Worker B noticed the portable radiation monitor some distance away from the irradiator and asked what its purpose was."

“Hey what means when this device read 999 Vladimir?”

“It means of the shut up and don’t ask me any questions Dimitri.”

threads full of shills

No one is saying that at all. There's a concept called the bell curve which is common knowledge, except for you. Might want to look into it. Otherwise you're going to be a tool for SJWs for the rest of your life.

those are the channel caps. about 1/10 have a control rod underneath, the rest contain fuel rods.

The report is about San Salvador so it would he Juan and Miguel.

>defending chinks
GTFO, subhuman.

got it. is that all? can I filter you now?

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She isn't a nurse, that old grandpa explained his nurse what to do while she's just standing there by the window, she also isn't working on his floor and they talk with each other as equals.

No its not "common" knowledge. Its been disproven a million times.

what's the abbreviation for roentgens then use on the show? it sounds like "rads"?

>woman being wary of a nuclear reactor (who is afraid of her husband getting hurt) is completely unbelievable
right

Water can be used as a moderator yes, but it's not as good as graphite because water also absorbs some of the neutrons. That's why they put graphite tips, to prevent water from filling the control rod channels and absorbing some of the neutrons, which would decrease the power by about 7%.

imgur.com/gallery/3x7RcLk#QrTJTm5 It's anyones guess but the one picture of a persons back might be from Chernobyl

SupaHotFireIsNotAllowed do you have twitter?

shills

STOOOOOOPPPPPP YOU FUCKING NIGGER

What you're saying doesn't make any sense, and bringing up the bell-curve isn't going to make you sound any more intelligent.

not a nurse
also
the point was the doctor was operating under the assumption most people were, that the reactor did not have a chance of slowing down. it's not that he didn't know the purpose of it, it's that he couldn't imagine a nuclear meltdown, let alone a nuclear meltdown exploding. also the town wasn't simply next to the power plant, Pripyat was a dormitory town built to run the plant, everyone who lived there was there because of the jobs for the plant. a firefighter in Pripyat would probably have some basic rundown on nuclear safety.

look at these sjw anglos defending their crappy shit

S

Rad is a unit of radiation absorbed (rad = 0.01 Gy = 0.01 J/kg) while roentgens is radiation exposure from gama and x-rays.

COMRADE SHEKELOV THE CORE ISN'T THERE I CHECKED THREE TIMES
DON'T MAKE ME GO BACK TO THE ROOF AGAIN, PLEASE

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>slowing
melting, dirty phone poster, sorry

You anglos make me roll my eyes.
>bu-bu-but it's possible!

kek

This is unironically Lovecraftian. Chernobyl is cosmic horror. You can't disagree with this because it's true.

You really are autistic.

Matters of the state, comrade.

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>Endoscopies of Ouchi’s intestines, which hemorrhaged blood

Fuuuuuck me

@114408857
shut the fuck up already, tripfaggot

Power plants are fucking awesome tho
The system is frankly breathtaking even in a smallish one

>firetubes in 1980s nuclear plant
Zez

Filtered

Why don't you filter me like a good boy already

I can see the 20-something fireman being too much of a Chad (if only in his own mind) to know or care about radiation. Maybe he had some idea but didn't want to look like a pussy in front of his wife. The doctor thing is weird, though. Even if you factor out radiation, dietary iodine deficiency is not uncommon and potassium iodide is a cheap remedy for it. It's hard to imagine he would only know about iodine tincture as an antiseptic, unless the USSR was more retarded than I thought.

I grew up 60km from a VVER plant. Now the closest active reactor is ~80km from me (Hinkley Point), but it's expected to be decommissioned by 2023. Though they are building a new one there iirc.

can't tell if you are retarded or trolling

This is legit terrifying

The timeline isn't far off based on survivor accounts. Within three hours firefighters were vomiting, and the guy who picked up the graphite was burned by 6 AM.

Yeah the fact that he even thinks she's just talking about disinfectant instead of using iodine for radiation protection is another eye roller for me as well.

Ignore the trip-fag, he is probably russian sovietboo, who melting down because of show.

it was, he worked in the pump room.

maybe because other countries have different looking nuclear reactor cores? isnt france the worlds major suppliers and builders of nuclear reactors are theres similiar to this one?

so the readout is 3.6rads, meaning the machine absorbed that?

Seriously, Ouchi didn't lose a leg. Radiation doesn't shear off half your femur.

COMRADE FEELKOV.
WHERE IS MY WATER

Yes yes anglo, your show is super perfect. In fact, Chernobyl is YOUR history. You know the best, anglos. Now please, ignore and filter the tripfags, it's the only way.

w-what do you mean d-double check?

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3.6 roentgen per hour is what the dosimeter says.

Digits are radiation levels

Thank you for containing the spread of misinformation

I'll give you a chance to explain what the bell curve has to do with a man with a stroller being an idiot. Have you even read about other nuclear disasters where the people in charge of running the reactors and everything were equally as retarded?

>Yes yes anglo
Я pyccкий, дoлбoёб oбoccaнный.

No it won't.

Getting a deadly dose will certainly kill you without a doubt, but no matter the dose, it always takes time to kill.

I've read all the testimonies from the firemen that night before they died + their medical record when they were at the Hospital Number 6 in Moscow, there's no account of anyone having a "melted hand" because he touched graphite, stop spreading bullshit or provide sources.

The firemen were actually in quite good shape when they arrived, that's because they were in the latent period, a period between the moment they feel the first symptoms (vomiting, etc...) and the moment their bodies start to decay and turn into soup.

So that's how radiation poisoning goes :
-Get a lethal dose
-Minutes/hour laters you start to feel ill, weak, you vomit, lose counsciousness, sweat bullets, eyes burning, etc...
-Then you start to feel much better, you think you're going to recover
-Days later you leave the latent period and you descend into hell progressively as your body decays while absolutely nothing can save you. Your skin peels off, your organs start turning into soup, your immune system turns off, most of your blood cells die the second they're created, your muscles slide off the bones.
Finally you die of cardiac or systemic failure.

I can't figure out if the firefighters were retarded and didn't know that radiation is dangerous, or if they were fully aware of the danger and knew that thousands would die if they didn't put out the fire on the roof.

shills

>1:23:45
>episode is only 1:05:04

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Commie boomer

Well what the fuck were they going to do, say "No, I'm not doing this." ?

what the fuck is the purpose of those little white hats?

>Getting a deadly dose will certainly kill you without a doubt, but no matter the dose, it always takes time to kill.
And it takes minutes to cause fatal damage.
And yep, it can cause open wounds due to radiation burn

even worse are the 9 or so minutes of credits.

at least the eerie music is comfy

I doubt any of them knew what was really happening

Why was he in such denial?

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well yes probably seeing as they are all basically the same.
fuel rods, control rods, lots of water, sometimes a big pressure vessel to keep it from exploding (not at Chernobyl though)

Fear

I think he actually knew how bad it was but just didn’t want to admit it

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Because RBMK reactors cant explode

Some knew and some didn't. One guy from Pripyat even joked that they won't live to see the next day but they had a job to do. He also compared themselves to kamikaze. Maybe the guys that came from Kiev didn't know.

Rads is what the human absorbs, roentgens is what the human is being exposed to. Not all radiation your exposed to is absorbed.

probably both, plus they were told it was just the roof on fire, so denial too.

Because he wasn't scientist, he was following standart instructions (if something happens sink reactor with water).
Also, first who will admit reactor is gone will be the first to blame for it

>denial
lets see what happens when the smoke clears, i still haven't seen any evidence that the core has 'exploded'

Images of gulags flashing in his mind, also the fact that no one could know what the fuck happened to the core itself since it didn't explode but still went missing.

get a load of this hot head

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"Acute radiodermatitis occurs when an "erythema dose" of ionizing radiation is given to the skin, after which visible erythema appears about 24 hours after."

Again, stop spreading bullshit, there's Z E R O account of such thing happening on the 26.
You'd probably have to be exposed directly to a fucking nuke to get such visible damage in a matter of minutes

because RBMK reactors can't explode

What's the difference between roentgens, sieverts, curies, and the other one I forget (geigers?)?

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The great Wikipedia crutch.

shock
fear
alot of things

Better than talking with no source to back your claims.

COMRADE FOMIN,

PUNISH MR DYATLOV

AS A BOY

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to stop hair contaminating stuff presumably

also style

He was just overwhelmed by the mass delusions of everyone around him

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The acute dose-dependent effects of beta radiation on skin are as follows:
0–6 Gy no acute effect
6–20 Gy moderate early erythema
20–40 Gy early erythema in 24 hours, skin breakdown in 2 weeks
40–100 Gy severe erythema in less than 24 hours
100–150 Gy severe erythema in less than 4 hours, skin breakdown in 1–2 weeks
150–1000 Gy blistering immediate or up to 1 day
source: United States. Dept. of the Army (1990). Nuclear handbook for medical service personnel

so yes, assuming someone did pick up and hold a portion of core material they could receive a beta burn resulting in near instant wounds

nice

>You'd probably have to be exposed directly to a fucking nuke to get such visible damage in a matter of minutes
uhhhh....
what do you think is inside a nuclear power plant core?
i'll give you a hint
its nuclear, and its critical.

They explored the plant’s ruined and unpowered sub-levels with flashlights and cotton masks (the picture 2 above this is from later). “At that time,” says Popov, “there were no places in [Unit 4] that were not dangerous, not by normal human standards. We entered fields of 100, 200, 250 roentgens an hour. This kind of situation could crop up unexpectedly. You’re walking down a corridor and the levels are not too bad; 1 to 5 roentgens per hour. Then you turn a corner and suddenly it’s 500 roentgens! You have to turn and run for it.”

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>”PRICE GET OUT OF THAT RADIATION POCKET!”

Is 3.6 a lot?

youtube.com/watch?v=899mYLZ9iHk

>150–1000 Gy blistering immediate or up to 1 day
>so yes, assuming someone did pick up and hold a portion of core material they could receive a beta burn resulting in near instant wounds

If you did your research right you'd know that the pieces of graphite emitted about 150 Sv per hour

He didn't hold it more than a few seconds

No you also have to note that the human body doesn't absorb 100% of the radiations it's exposed to, soft tissues like the extremities (hands for example) absorb less radiations than organs.
Also the doses the firemen received were all around 15-25 Gy, incompatible to your conclusion.

Which was irradiating about 300 Sv/hr, the graphite 150 Sv/hr, nukes emit so much radiations they generate electromagnetic pulses and extreme heat.

>incompatible to your conclusion
Incompatible with your conclusion*

Not good, but not terrible

You're vastly overestimating things.

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>roentgens, sieverts
these measure radiation dose received by a person
>curies, and the other one
becquerels, i think, they both measure how radioactive an object is
>geigers
a geiger counter is just the device that detects radioactivity, i don't think geigers is a unit of anything

tfw I live in central Europe, and being an oldfag remember iodine being given to drink in preschool

>those digits
that's actually significant

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They put this guy in a medically induced coma so he basically didn't feel anything.

because of this disaster?

only after he asked to be put out of his misery

Why do you start tasting metal?

ITS OVER 10000 AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>these measure radiation dose received by a person

Not quite, Sieverts measure ambient radiation. Grays measure the absorbed radiation (derived from sieverts)
Roentgens measure the ionization of ambient air, the derived unit is the REM.

>becquerels, i think, they both measure how radioactive an object is
Yeah this one is true, becquerels simply measure the number of disintegrations per second in a quantity of radioactive material

no, she looks way better than that now

a normally operating reactor is critical, an exploding nuke is prompt-critical.
basically, a uranium atom splits and releases a neutron. the fission products are unstable and decay soon after, releasing more neutrons. a reactor is relying on the extra decay neutrons to keep the chain reaction going, but in a bomb the reaction is so fast that just fission neutrons are enough.

Duh, don't remember doing that before or after. This could have been 86-87

nobody really knows but basically all of those who received a deadly dose of radiation reported that

I remember that it tasted funny. Salty-metallic and if I remember correctly it was dark red

Surprised they did a lot of research and shown us real depiction of ruined core.

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>an exploding nuke is prompt-critical.

No, prompt-critical doesn't lead to a nuclear explosion, that's why it's "prompt" critical.

Prompt-critical is what happened to Louis Slotin as portrayed on this video : youtube.com/watch?v=hh89h8FxNhQ
Some physicist argue that it also happened at Chernobyl.

Supercriticality leads to a nuclear explosion, but it can't happen in a nuclear reactor because it lacks the density and the nuclear cross section to do it (something that is normally bypassed in a nuke by using neutron reflectors)

All that idiot had to do is lift the bottom half up and frying himself wouldn't have even been possible.

There was a point in time recently where you could walk up and even sit on the damn thing and as long as you left the room in a few minutes you'd be fine. You could even lick it if you wanted. Most of it's immediate death radiation is gone.

Why don't they just use dogs?

Unit 4 underwent prompt criticality during SCRAM. It's why the power shot to over 33 GWt (as last recorded by instruments) in a few seconds. However, since it had neither concentration nor geometry to sustain the reaction, all it did was thermochemically crack apart all the remaining water into oxygen-hydrogen steam, which burst out of the reactor vessel (launching the 450-ton lid several hundred meters into the air) and then caused the world's largest fuel-air explosion as it reached self-detonation concentration after combining with the outside air.

>because they were in the latent period
they weren't, too soon to even det in, and only a handful of them even died

my bad, it's been a while.
prompt-critical is a "fizzle", then?

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But they were, ever read the accounts of the doctors at hospital 6 ? They were in the latent period for at least a day or two.

This is what I don't get about this whole thing. They say it will be dangerous around there for 10s of thousands of years, but wouldn't that elephants foot be literally the worst part?

Yes, a fizzle is what happened to Unit 4.

You can't live there, but you can go and take pictures as long as you're wearing thick clothing and only stay in the heavily irradiated areas for only a few minutes.

The reactor didn't spew out just one thing. It released radioactive iodine (decays in 8 days but is very dangerous), caesium 137(30 years), strontium-90 and many others. The uranium in there will probably take a while to decay. Some parts of the red forest were also contaminated. Hotspots all around.

"In the design of nuclear weapons, on the other hand, achieving prompt criticality is essential. Indeed, one of the design problems to overcome in constructing a bomb is to compress the fissile materials enough to achieve prompt criticality before the chain reaction has a chance to produce enough energy to cause the core to expand. A good bomb design must therefore win the race to a dense, prompt critical core before a less-powerful chain reaction disassembles the core without allowing a significant amount of fuel to fission (known as a fizzle)."

Yes pretty much, prompt criticality is required but it's not the only condition for a nuke to blow up.
Even a perfect sphere of pure plutonium 239 cannot reach prompt criticality or even turn into a nuke on it's own, in the case of Slotin they needed neutron reflectors to have a prompt critical reaction
In order to have a nuke they needed to increase the density of the core with extremely precise high explosive lenses and a perfect timing.

That's why even a molten reactor core turned into a solid blob of fuel, rod elements and boron carbide (control rods) wouldn't explode like a nuke.