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When people get hit with lots of radiation and show symptoms, then if they travel can they pass that on? Like is the hospital at risk in this?
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When people get hit with lots of radiation and show symptoms, then if they travel can they pass that on? Like is the hospital at risk in this?
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You're delusional
after all that he kills himself
>only 3.6
What does air taste like, bros?
It depends on how much and how they got the radiation. Sometimes they have to be buried under lead and concrete.
>is that hospital at risk
No shit? Do you know anything about Chernobyl?
taste like metal ITS DISGUSTING
Sort of? As I understand it, whoever is irradiated still has the radiation on them. However if they are decontaminated then no.
>Yea Forums! It escaped the containment!
How many times this actor gonna kill himself
They're at risk if they turn into mutant zombies.
But once a person's skin and clothing are washed, his or her ability to expose others to radiation is eliminated, Caracappa said. "If they ingested or inhaled radioactive material and it has been deposited inside of them, there is no way that they're going to transfer that to other people."
Caracappa calculated that in order to deliver a radiation dose of 1 millisievert to a person standing 1 meter away, "19 billion becquerels of radioactive iodine would have to be deposited in the contaminated person." To glean that much iodine 131 from the Tokyo water supply on its worst day of contamination, a person would have to have downed 94 million gallons of water – an impossible amount.
wasn't he reanimated with the T-virus in Resident Evil 2?
This is honestly one of the best shows I've seen in a long time. One of the few instances where something you lot recommends is legitimately great.
like salty milk and coins
I was surprised they didn't have some suits or something. Even if it wouldn't help from a huge dose it might keep direct exposure down?
Was the whole thing released?
Time should be 1:23
So apparently caracappa never heard of neutron activation, a basic principle that tells us that any material exposed to neutrons can turn radioactive, something that happened to the people at chernobyl. Despite being decontaminated their bodies emitted massive amounts of radioactivity, enough to kill
>When people get hit with lots of radiation and show symptoms, then if they travel can they pass that on? Like is the hospital at risk in this?
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you better hope you stock iodine
Would I enjoy this if I enjoyed the stalker games or is this an entirely different kind of story?
>I was surprised they didn't have some suits or something.
[laughs in USSR]
Rate my radpilled cat, comrades.
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I've seen worse
Uhh its based on real life...? Real characters, etc...
Hey comrades just went to go check on the reactor it's fine no need to worry
Why do you have those?
In English doc?
Is your cat single?
Loads of unsourced crap
Oh come on, who doesn't love a good puss tovarish?
Why was everyone in such denial?
Kek
this show looks like it's gonna have a bright future
Soviet reactors don't explode
user, you’ve seen me naked uwu.
Denial ? What's that, only truth allowed comrad
Why didn't the employees say fuck it once they knew the reactor had blown? It's not like they could do anything. I don't get the guys fucking with the water valves...
Just radiation from the feedwater, you'll be fine. I've seen worse.
Yes she is and she's also spayed if you know what I'm sayin ;)
because an RBMK reactor doesn't just explode
>yfw you learn Dyatlov survived and didn't even have radiation related health problems
Meanwhile the people that cleaned up his mess died horrific agonizing deaths.
I guess the consequences must have been jail or something. It doesn't make sense to me either.
Are you a nuclear engineer? Can you explain to me how an RBMK reactor explodes?
So it's a documentary?
They were born and grew up in those lands. They had familes, friends, and their entire identity in that land. Would you abandon your post, knowing you were the only one that knew how to assess the situation and help and potentially save your people and land?
To a certain extent some of the chemicals in our body are very susceptible to shit like that. Mostly Sodium and Potassium if I remember correctly but the amount we would be transfer to others from internal radiation is pretty minimal it would be much worse if someone who was not properly decontaminated.
It's only 3.6 roentgen comrade. Not good but not terrible
Reactors don’t explode. Why are you saying stupid shit.
in order to defeat Western Imperialism, comrade
Dude survived two nuclear meltdowns what the fuck man
More like a reenactment
They feared they'd lose their job (being a nuclear engineer in the USSR was pretty much like being a cosmonaut, you were worshiped by the people, very well paid, had some advantages and had free housing)
+ sent in some shit siberian place instead
Some believed the reactor was intact
The divers who prevented a steam explosion survived.
Hey guys is looking into the core guaranteed death? I love how ominous they make it in the show like staring into the abyss but is it really so serious in real life?
Those bureaucrats look the same. Gorbachev is in the next ep.
meow brah
Sounds interesting, I'll check it out. Thanks user.
>and didn't even have radiation related health problems
Yes he did, that's why he only served 5 years and his heart problems were very likely linked to the radiations
you're basically a walking isotope. When you get radiation for cancer therapy, they tell you to stay away from your pets for a while.
>Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov
>deputy chief-engineer of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, and the supervisor of the fatal experiment which resulted in the Chernobyl disaster.
>he worked in a shipbuilding plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, installing reactors into submarines. He received a radiation dose of 200 rem, a dose which typically causes mild radiation sickness, vomiting, diarrhea, fatigue and reduction in resistance to infections,[1] during a nuclear accident there. His son died of leukemia. In 1973, he moved to Pripyat, Ukraine to work at the newly constructed Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.
>Dyatlov supervised a test at Reactor 4 of the nuclear plant, which resulted in the worst nuclear plant accident in history. In 1987, he was found guilty "of criminal mismanagement of potentially explosive enterprises" and was sentenced to ten years in prison. He was released after five years. He wrote a book[2] in which he claimed that poor plant design, rather than plant personnel, was primarily responsible for the accident.
>During the accident, Dyatlov was exposed to a radiation dose of 390 rem (3.9 Sv), which causes death to 50% of affected persons after 30 days.[3]
>He died of heart failure in 1995.[4]
considering he lived through two nuclear accidents, that guy lived a long time
Komrad...komrad...komrad...
RBMK reactors can't explode. The State has it all under control
Whoa, how autistic is the jew who made this show?
but is it really so serious in real life?
YES you are basically getting something like 8,000 roentgens
on 5-2e which path gives the most exp?
excellent attention to detail comrade, I will not be reporting you to the Regional Committee
Ah to teeter on the fine line between comfy furry bonding and excruciating physical pain. That is why I love the cat.
hiya qt
The Death is guaranteed by this fucker
>you are basically getting something like 8,000 roentgens
But my Geiger counter maxes out at 200
Diarrhea seems to be a top symptom of radiation poisoning, why did the show leave this out?
Some actors don't look like the real guys at all, like Toptunov and the firemen
+ bryukhanov has a shit voice in the serie
user this is a long way from /gfg/
Just wait for the 20 minute long toilet scene in Episode 2
Of you were a worker at a power plant a couple of explosions occured and people were talking about the core being absolutely fucked then either
>your death is very likely already inevitable, or would be by the time of your exit
>it isn't true
shitting yourself is less aesthetic
They are very autistic. They have an equally long podcast nitpicking what is fact and their research process.
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Why are Chernobyl threads so cozy lads? It was the same with The Terror. Do historical TV Shows just drive away zoomers?
>explosion
>you understand you are fucked because you were sitting less than 100 feet from a fizzle reaction
>realize even if you can't accept it that you will probably die
>do what you think is best to contain the reaction
not that hard to understand
the real crazy will be next week when the Army helicopter pilots start hovering directly above the lava, that is suicide mission stuff
>Geiger counter
they were using dosimeters. Dosimeters measures exposure to ionizing radiation
Geiger counter measures ionizing radiation
Not that user,
Not a nuclear engineer, but have related degree and have worked in and around nuclear reactors (though mostly pool type reactors.) I will explain in simple terms.
there are several types of reactors, and the RBMK uses graphite, natural (unenriched) uranium, and water to produce power. (and actually produce a ton of power). Water flows though the core (Which is Graphite and rods of metal clad uranium) and then is sent to a heat exchanger to produce power.
However, unlike most reactors, a RBMK has a unique design issue. In most reactors that use water, if the water is no longer present, the reaction slows down and stops, stopping the reaction (bad stuff can still happen, but it not near as bad.)
The RBMK has whats called positive void coefficient (some other reactors have this, but not as high) which means in simple terms, if water is not flowing though the reactor, it speeds up and has a power surge.
Water turned to steam in the core, which means that there is effectively no water, and the reactor energy (heat) production spiked, which produces more steam, and it causes a feedback loop. specific design flaws meant that it couldn't be stopped, and a huge amount of steam was produced that blew the top off the building. The graphite and uranium core was also launched across the area, and was on fire, spreading more radiation.
Several safety features were turned off due to the test being conducted at the time.
This is the person working on the music of this show as well as
>Joker (post-production)
>Arrival (musician: cello - as Hildur Gudnadottir)
>Sicario (soloist: cello)
>Prisoners (musician: solo cello)
Say something nice about her.
im sorry I had an uzi moment
where are you guys watching this? im a poorfag and cant afford hbo. this looks kino as fuck
Akinov is the real Akinov that they bring from the past
You're delusional, take him to the infirmary
mommy is going to have a lot of changing to do
torrent it, zoomer.
amazing what wearing a little rubber and an air filter can do
radiation isn't so scary, just don't eat anything or stare at molten uranium
Historical events are just super comfy 2bh
Any of these any good?
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Dyatlov's last interview, great if you know Russian, the Chernobyl trial can also be found but no subtiles either
>not borrowing your cousin's HBO GO account
SHIGGY DIGGY
there's no gotfag/capefag culture warrior zoomzooms.
its mostly the water
All that beeping is so unnerving
They could live though. The chief engineer guy that left did.
Also realizing that the slow moving chain off command is dooming innocents all for “the greater good”
A radioactive element does just that: it radiates. When you have a controlled reaction, the radiation is captured and diffused (albeit with still some residual radiation above normal levels as to be expected). When a meltdown occurs and steam blows your shit up, you no longer have any of that protection or cooling system that keeps it controlled. That fission is spiralling out of control to levels that humans have absolutely no preparation for because we did not evolve around that stuff (in fact, life cannot exist around it because it's so intense). That radiation is like a superfluid: it oozes through crevices, it bounces off stuff, but due to its high energy it's also basically going through everything. It's an intense light. Whatever protection you might have around you would be useless if you are in the mere vicinity of a meltdown. But just imagine taking the full brunt of that by looking AT the meltdown. That's basically turning your insides into soap bubbles in seconds. Whatever time you have on Earth after that is spent in pain and agony as the flesh that you are made up of breaks apart at a molecular level and you can even think or function.
hey so is this available on prime? or only HBO?
Toptunov was a bit chubby according to his family, the last pictures of him and his collegues. In the serie he looks like an anglo with cancer
idk im not a nuclear engineer I can just read Wikipedia
Why are BRs so fucking stupid
so this guy is going to melt in episode 2?
Srstop online
Everything related to Chernobyl is just creepy as shit.
BHИMAHИE
BHИMAHИE
BHИMAHИE
BHИMAHИE
checked
Essentially yes.
as long as they don't go high enough to be concerning they're great!
As memory serves, he would have to be down there for a few weeks. Then cancer is a guarantee.
it's on Lifetime
it's not the looking at it part
the thing is an ongoing nuclear reaction, and it's just flinging out radiation in every direction. standing behind a concrete wall or rubble will stop most of the photons, so as long as someone isn't in a straight open line to the thing, they won't be getting hit to bad
the actual uranium and shit was generally covered by burning graphite, so it's not as if anyone actually saw the glowing magma, they just got the sunburn of death from rads
substantial kek
fun fact: thats the actual audio from the evacuation
keep the good one in the safe
how even could ANYONE be held responsible for stuff that happened while they were sleeping?!
Yea I had to look it up myself because I thought the trailer played up how creepy it was. I was wrong
oh, you are gonna be okay then 200 isn't so bad
Denial of what? RBMK reactors arent capable of exploding
That doesn't make any sense unless the entire building was perfectly airtight with no relief areas built in which also makes no sense since any pressurized steam system will have relief valves and specially designed weak points to prevent explosions.
as a cellist that I am, I want to be her slave, clean her cellos, freeze in iceland and lick every part of her.
Or just hear how she plays
Yes, you need to think of the reactor fire as if it was the surface of the sun, literally in terms of temperature and radiative output, because it literally is as if a bit of the sun is burning there
The second anyone peeped their head over the edge, they are the equivalent of standing the 50 or so meters it was from the surface of the sun
I rewatched it with vodka. Now I’m pissed at everyone on the show like I’m there.
core just needed more water desu
heres the 911 call as well: youtu.be
is google right with "ghost"
was that some code or something
Why did the dosimetrist refuse to go on the roof after he'd already wandered around measuring areas >200 Roentgens? Surely he'd know he was basically as good as dead.
Its what you sign up to do. If some disaster happens you have to do what you can to make sure more people do not get hurt.
Same thing happens in other industries. My dad was a plant manager when there was a leak of a highly explosive material. He and a few techs had to go to it to try to shut it down as there was over 1,000 gallons of toluene and cyclohexane. It exploded and he was thrown over 100 meters by the explosion.
He was too stubborn to die, but some of his coworkers didn't make it.
They put graphite in pencils lol calm down nigga
I want to see this
ghost?
Please you are speaking nonsense. There's no graphite anywhere. Go to the infirmary.
>mild radiation in scandinavia
Going to rewatch the episode,
I don't know about you bros, but this first episode scared me like no other "horror" movie did. Maybe because it is so real and it
happened, not some scary boggeyman
Also, long live The Terror
>The second anyone peeped their head over the edge, they are the equivalent of standing the 50 or so meters it was from the surface of the sun
Jesus user that's a crazy way of putting it
Not to mention hydrogen was used as a cooling agent for the vent turbines which also went boom boom
she looks slavic
but she has nice eyebrows
if you want the full broadcast here you go friend: youtube.com
user says that google translates BHИMAHИE as ghost and wants to know whats up with that if its true
>114365950
>nitpicky swedes figured it out first
based
>not even 30 people died from this
OMG! LITERALLY 9/11!
physiciansofchernobyl.org.ua
Here's the transcript of the whole chernobyl trial in english
>High Accuracy
do not buy this imperial capitalist crap user
The Soviet News announcement of the disaster is pretty creepy as well
why even bother with iodine pills haha
Nigga you're literally staring into the nuclear reaction. The light you see isn't just photons. The neutrons from the reaction travels to your eye, as well as other body parts.
it means warning in russian
Happened 5-6 monts after the accident, they probably won't go that far in 5 episodes
200 per hour, he didn't stand near the source for an hour so he was still safe +IRL he didn't refuse.
>In the Goiania incident people died of between 4-6 grays(approx 400 roentgen)
>The reactor was giving off 15000 roentgen, or about 131 grays
holy fucking oof
>That doesn't make any sense unless the entire building was perfectly airtight with no relief areas built in which also makes no sense since any pressurized steam system will have relief valves and specially designed weak points to prevent explosions.
1. It is a airtight area, for various reasons including making sure radactive gas is not released.
Secondly since the power surge happened in seconds any type of "pop off valve" would not have the capacity to lower the steam pressure in time.
BE SURE TO TAKE YOUR IODINE
THE WIND IS PUSHING ME
Did they not know about radiation poisoning yet? And were hazmat suits not common practice yet if they did?
Lyudmilla is a cute
It's the layman's way of putting it
The reactions that kept the reactor fire burning for weeks are the exact same process as those on the sun
Chernobyl was basically a miniature sun
unless we have any physicists who have a better insight than my novice understanding of fission
The way the Americans described it was pretty scary too. Basically comparing radiation level in Sweden and the west of Europe to conclude something crazy must of happened in that powerplant.
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Fug! I bought a Radex for $100.- a while back too! Played around with it a bit, then stuck in my tool box. The only radioactive material around me is in the sensor for fire detectors so I got bored with it.
No it means attention, like the beginning of an announcement, that's all.
nothing a good walk in the woods can't solve
icelander, she isn't that pretty, but plays like goddesses
How is radiation poisoning even real. Just close your eyes nigga. Walk away.
>Hey guys is looking into the core guaranteed death?
Yeah, the guys who had direct line of sight to it got hit with a fatal dose 1000 times over. Even the dudes in helicopters flying over top of the open roof got lethal doses.
Maybe 30 in this first episode... and unknowable amount, at least in the thousands, died from cancers and shit
The reactor emitted more than 30 000 roentgens, they simply didn't have anything that could read more than that so it was probably much higher.
here's Reagan's reading rainbow briefing on Chernobyl: youtu.be
wait Stellan is in this? when does he show up?
???
Sun is fusion, RBMKs are fission, go to sleep son.
>30 000 roentgens
That's not terrible. Not great but not terrible
The sun is fusion (combining atoms)
A nuclear reactor is fission (splitting atoms)
so nothing alike
they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling swedes
Kek
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That feel no qt Soviet synthpop star GF to come home and smash after hard down protecting the fruits of the peoples labour from misinformation
Someone asked for burns on this in the previous thread, so I made it look as realistic as possible.
so this is the power... of delusion...
There been about 11 cancers linked to it.
Hey comrades I'm going to get a better view of the fire anyone wanna come?
Spy satellites were actually surveying all soviet nuclear facilities at that time so we would have figured it out very soon
more like 10*10^3.6
it has to be airtight because (a) it's contents are radioactive and (b) it's using steam pressure to generate electricity.
Everything about Chernobyl is exaggerated bullshit. How could a building that large also be perfectly airtight despite people saying it was shoddily built? Shit does not add up.
Any under pressure steam system is going to have multiple failure points designed to relive stress instantly. What would be the point of designing such points if they were not able to do that in fie first place? Of course they would relieve pressure in time.
I think it varies from person to person. Some people in the show, like the first responders, probably had no idea how radioactivity works. Others, like most of the higher-ups, knew their head would be on the chopping block if they either disagreed with the State's narrative or took the blame for something more than a minor incident.
Nuclear fission =/= nuclear fusion
T. Local commie organisation member
11 types of cancer?
in real life he did it to get an accurate understanding of what the debris looked like, what was exposed, what was broken, to help them understand what was happening
a very noble sacrifice imo, although the bosses still didn't believe him
They did. All facts about the incident are burger "facts"
yeah but how many cases of delusion?
he's the one on the phone with jared harris near the end. he'll probably show up next episode
>11 cancers
is that a type of currency?
I wonder what would happen if a nuclear reactor got caught in the crossfire during a war? Would we all be fucked?
If they didn’t at least try to contain it more people would’ve died faster
wtf i love showers now
>During the accident, Dyatlov was exposed to a radiation dose of 390 rem (3.9 Sv), which causes death to 50% of affected persons after 30 days.[3]
>He died of heart failure in 1995.[4]
Bullshit one of the reason bryukhanov was shredded into pieces during the trial is that he did not build a confinement around each reactor. Only the side walls were separating the reactor from the outside.
In fact it's the same for every nuclear plant using RBMKs comrad
in Soviet Russia, emergency responds to YOU!
NUCLEAR WINTER IS COMING
Crossfire implies they won't be the first target
Moscow sends us shit and wonders why nothing works.
Yes, that's why nuclear plants were strategic targets (and still are) in case of war. Blow one up and you fuck the enemy deep on the rectum. No more electricity and radiations to take care of
>implying you could say something like that without being lined against the wall and shot immediatly
He's in the trailer for the coming series that played at the end of the episode. I don't have the link
>No more electricity and radiations to take care of
But won't the enemy destroy yours too? Wouldn't that result in tons of land being made effectively uninhabitable?
>be spic
>HBO decides to not air the episode until friday
Why can't it get the GoT treatment? It's because it is a mini series and not a long-term show?
Oh and according to all the testimonies, the irradiated workers' skin all turned black before their deaths so expect some blackfaces :^)
user, the reactor area is airtight as a RBMK reactor operates in a 90% helium 10% nitrogen gas circuit so that any (Radactive) gasses released by the reactor can be collected, scrubbed, and stored till the short term radioactivity is gone. (as such gases have short half lives.)
No pop off valve is going to deal with a jump in thermal power from 530 MW to over 30,000 MW thermal in under 10 seconds.
the RBMK design is not awful, it actually a cheap, powerful reactor that can use lightly enriched fuel, modifications after the disaster made them quite safe (if less cheap to run as they required more enrichment of the fuel. )
>be spic
well there's your problem
Compartmentalization of information and fear of getting your shit pushed in by the oligarchs.
Imagine having to tell a committee of soviets that the reactor you were overseeing exploded, the same reactor that was meant to demonstrate to the West that the Soviet Union was a powerful and responsible nation that was to be respected.
You would be the scapegoat for a permanent national embarrassment to an already dying nation.
>Chernobyl was basically a miniature sun
That's a starter explanation, but it's a gross oversimplification. The sun and a reactor are both nuclear reactions that are self-perpetuating as long as there's a supply of fuel. And they're both very bad to stand close to, to the point of being deadly if you look right at them. So it's not a bad comparison to begin with.
The biggest difference is the type of reaction. A reactor works by taking very heavy elements like plutonium or uranium (lots of protons and neutrons) that are radioactive, meaning naturally unstable, and encouraging them to be even more unstable. As they break apart, they release energy, causing other nearby atoms to do the same. The sun works in the opposite way, by fusion, combining light elements (currently hydrogen) into heavier ones (helium). For everything up to iron, this releases energy also. It's much more powerful and doesn't require radioactive metals for fuel, but it takes a LOT of heat and pressure to get started - more than we can create on earth.
The other big difference is the sheer amount of radiation being given off. The reactor core throws off enough to guarantee your death in an instant... but the sun at the same distance would have vaporized you, and the building you were standing on.
They can't if you don't have any or strike them first so they can't retaliate.
Imagine being this fish
fake lyudmilla a CUTE
Why the fuck did they keep the good dosimeter in a safe?
One thing I never understood about nuclear-scale war is that in conflicts about anything other than stark ideological contention--in which you believed the opposing side was literally an adversary to all of mankind--why would you resort to such environmentally detrimental measures? You win, great. You've now created an uninhabitable zone of the increasingly used-up planet, and can't mine, farm, or expand to that continent for at least decades. You've effectively neutered a portion of your greater biosphere, and that's if the fallout doesn't progress to global proportions
Dr. Marvin Dickerson looks like alan alda.
The pressure was relieved by blowing the fuck through the roof, the scale of energy here is way fucking higher than what you can expect a failsafe systems to handle.
So it didn't get stolen
>implying we'd ever need it
No they're still absolute dogshit, thank god the massive progress in computer technology allowed them to replace the old SKALA reactor process computers with much better ones to help the engineers operate them.
>8,000 roentgens
I've seen worse
So the CIA niggers can't steal them + they're useless, soviet reactors are safe
you are using terms you do not understand. Containment is the physical structure around the entire reactor that prevents any issue inside the plant from spreading outside the plant (RBMKs do not have large concrete containment structures over them).
This does not mean that the RBMKs are free gassing into the atmosphere user. Do I have to post a drawing for you to understand?
>You win, great. You've now created an uninhabitable zone of the increasingly used-up planet, and can't mine, farm, or expand to that continent for at least decades.
That's why it's called Mutually Assured Destruction user. Nobody wins, at best you MIGHT get a pyrrhic victory. It's the same reason why it's such a good deterrent
Phonetically it would read " Vnimaniyeh " in Latin/English alphabet letters.
Vnee-mahn-ee-yeh.
Like other user said, it means "Attention" as in, "attention, attenion: this is an announcement..."
Thanks for containing the misinformation
>metro and stalker are depressing and dark visions of the future which nuclear apocalyptic settings
Write what you know I guess
This show is going to spook me
she sounds hott
>No they're still absolute dogshit,
How many reactors produce 1500 MW user? How many can produce that power at the low cost that RBMKs can produce it at?
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here I made a super cut Sony Vegas wouldnt take my MKV and i was not converting it so I used the only MP4 the pirate bay had
>last scene
>first confirmed dead-by-rads thing
>opening scene of next episode
>helicopter flying towards power plant
calling it now, it's gonna be pottery
They don't have confinements comparable to PWR reactors which are the standard in the industry.
Soviet confinements weren't made to contain massive leaks, hydrogen explosions or meltdowns unlike western ones.
Compare chernobyl to fukushima that had actual confinements, sure they partially blew up, but despite many reactors melting down, it's still not as bad as chernobyl due to that extra structural safety.
Fuck off soviet shill, producing cheap electricity doesn't make them any safer.
While they can run at 1500 MW they're limited to 1200-1300 for safety reasons, such power can be achieved by much safer PWRs
they predicted about 40-50k cancers over the next 100 years, something like that. I'm pretty sure 11 of the 6000 thyroid cancers they linked to the disaster (that's pretty much all they have been able to prove) actually died from it. Independent studies came to a death toll of less than 50 so far. It's bad, it's really bad, but it's no worse than something like Bhopal, or any of the other chemical disasters that happens every year. Chernobyl was cleaned up quite well all things considered; Bhopal is still toxic and they never even bothered to evacuate.
Just watched the first ep, the looming dread I felt in my heart most of the time (particularly exterior shots, of the firefighter scenes and the constant hum from the reactor) was intense, haven't felt this from watching something in a long time.
If money was the main concern we'd just keep burning coal user.
>dangerously unstable thing that can wipe out entire section of the planet
>muh low costs
shish ish pure ideology
I want to live in Ukraine now
I am aware of that, I worked at reactors user.
Its just that even though they did not have concrete containment, it doesn't mean that the cores were not airtight with a closed Gas circuit
The poorest country in Europe, comparable to africa without niggers ?
All the reactors have run without issue after the needed modifications for low power operation.
ok but does that also mean ghost?
>"low cost"
>Station ruined
>City abandoned
>Lives lost
>Reputation destroyed
He's delusional, take him to the infirmary.
STALKER game is based off of a movie with the same name, STALKER, from 1979 (before Chernobyl in 1986). The movie is based off of the novel Roadside Picnic from 1972. The context of the Exclusion Zone from the NPP disaster and the super-natural elements (zones) from Roadside Picnic and the movie is where the game comes together.
30 years later everything has mostly grown back. Animals came back even tourist come and see. But in the whole area, there are NO MORE BIRDS.
imagine being a radioactive material and fucking a cute girl's blood cells with your 5.5Gy cock
someone get this hothead to the infirmary
thats moldova
They're still trash poor design, so fucking trash that no one has ever made new graphite moderated boiling water reactors since 1986 and RBMK constructions have all been cancelled since. Lithuania even ordered the shutdown of their sole nuclear power plant because of the safety concerns about the reactors.
Any of my fellow /ttg/ boys in here?
Get ready comrades!
>mfw people doubted my nigga HBO
>Moldova
>country
Bring him to /x/, he's hallucinating
Have the trainees lowered the control rods yet?
Will Slav countries ever get a break
not great, not terrible
there are no control rods
they should give liberal democracy a go it's pretty comfy
We need fucking water, go down there and piss on the core if needed
>see the open core melting
>take your cock out and piss on it to cool it down
I fucking bet you'd get a medal for that back in the USSR
with pleasure
uhhhhhhh comrade I'm feeling delusional maybe I have to go to the infirmary instead.
>nearly all the Liquidators died
>only 30 people
Are you retarded?
I'd rather be poor among whites than rich among niggers
they dont need it but its just useful to have around
There were actually only 31 liquidators, the soviet archives prove it user. They all did it by themselves thanks to soviet socialism giving them strength.
Right. Before you go I need you to take a trip up to the roof and tell me how bad the fire is.
not a cat person but that is one adorable fucker
Yeah
>CDC.gov
imperial dog, get out of our thread!
THIS IS OUR FINAL AND DECISIVE BATTLE
WITH THE INTERNATIONALE, HUMANITY WILL RISE
NO ONE WILL GRANT US DELIVERANCE
NO GOD, NO TSAR, NOR HERO
WE WILL WIN OUR LIBERATION
THROW DOWN OUR OPPRESSORS WITH OUR SKILLED HANDS
TO TAKE BACK WHAT IS OURS
*projectile vomits
CORES. NICE AND HOT.
They had to believe that the core was still intact and there was something they could do to alleviate the disaster, their guilt wouldn't allow otherwise, even if they knew the core really did explode and it was pointless.
Alright guys this thread is contaminated. We need to ev
Comrade what happened are you al
The double wham of
>1) When they realize how bad it actually is, they know that they are already dead men walking, having been in the plant itself for more than 5 minutes, nothing can save them now not even if they just immediately teleported to a radiation-specialized hospital hundreds of miles away from the site
>2) They can at least save other people. Either because they are selfless enough to do that normally, or because they understand reason 1 so they might as well if they're already dead, or because as the episode showed some felt guilty for the accident
And then to top that off you have the old soviet way of thinking.
I feel so bad for the roof nigga
You could just feel his hatred for Communists
cool it with the feed water my guy
classic
now you know what tinnitus feels like.
Some cheeky git put feed water in the tea again. It's a prank we often play on one another. Nothing to worry about.
Yes
More so that the hundreds of army workers they bring in to close it up. Not really understanding that what they are doing will probably kill them.
was he a communist?
This movie and this thread are boring.
This is a very dumb anglo mentality. Money means nothing. Look at the first world nations. All the money in the world but nobody likes living in them. Meanwhile, places in the tropics or Africa or China or Europe that are basically just farmland and villages have people that know each other and chill out day and night by the side of the road making jokes and overall love life. What really is "wealth"? You might even say it's power but what good is power if no one is willing to fight for you because they hate you? Bah. Wealth is but a meme being used by the few who still have control over your mind to make you continue to do their bidding. True wealth is the soul and spirit of a nation.
I heard a lot of military personal in the USSR referred to the event as the Battle of Pripyat or the Battle of Chernobyl something along those lines.
One of the men who looked into the core, had brown eyes and they literally changed color to deep blue because the radiation blast to the face was that intense
I'm glad that Capitalists have never made their workers do something that will kill them
I'm glad that doesn't happen all the time, that would be a fucking bummer. Imagine if capitalists bosses constantly cut corners and put their employees in danger, people would probably rise up against such an unjust and stupid system. Since no one is rising up, we know that this never happens in Capitalist's society
I though Chernobyl was a steam explosion that let radiation seep through
I'm not anglo
+fuck off fucking tripfaggot, breath in some radioactive dust
Civil duty / do everything you can
does drinking vodka really help prevent radiation sickness?
You are clearly delusional.
Holy shit source?
youtube.com
this was gud
You're boring.
>have people that know each other and chill out day and night by the side of the road making jokes and overall love life.
You've clearly never visited a real third world country to spread bullshit like that.
Yea that's what I picked it up from. Kino taste user. The interviews with the nurses was some sad shit
They are alike, just not very alike.
I missed out on The Terror threads. What was discussed? I didn't think the show was that great. Chernobyl is better.
Why does radiation fuck up the Thyroid in particular so much?
Anglo status: destroyed
Basically the same.
Mostly just shit memes like this one. Also, desperate waiting for leaked episodes.
The Terror leaked online before it aired on TV and Amazon, so most of the discussion was before it premiered
>What was discussed?
The show and things related to it but to be honest having weeks worth of on topic treads with quality discussion is such a rarity on this board. Memes were great too
just watched
this is kino
god i love jared harris too
yikes are you mad about it?
the worst is the helicopter pilots because they went in to test the radiation with actually useful instruments and realized on the first flight that they were fucked
within about 48 hours the pilots and crew were fixing their own helicopters with lead plating and vests to try and survive
soliders didn't know wandering around the forest would give them cancer, pilots could feel themselves getting sick
>whataboutism
I thought the creature was kind of cheesy.
>feed water
>3.6
>infirmary
>delusional
>tastes like metal
>graphite
>check the core
>nothing too
>didnt explode lol
>disinformation
>maxed out at 200
>fine seen worst
>not great but not terrible
>qt core fire gf
>iodine
>the terror
>roof
>*throws up
Cases of delusion of cancer, Send him to the infirmary he was standing too long around the feedwater
same shit would happen in the US unironically, unless they kill you for that shit in the USSR
It's not necessarily radiation in general, but that most nuclear accidents produce iodine radiation, and your thyroid uses iodine to produce hormones. Your body naturally produces iodine for it, but the thyroid isn't smart enough to know the difference between stable iodine and radioactive iodine, so it will absorb the radioactive iodine faster than the rest of your body.
I agree the boss fight at the end was kinda silly. Regardless I enjoyed the show quite a bit, beats out 99% of what's on TV at the moment
Only people from the first world think that third worlders "chill day and night thinking about life"
The only time they do that is when they get drunk to forget their shit life. Then the next morning they wake up and work 12 hours to hope they can feed their family.
What you describe is something you'd see in a hollywood movie about friendship and shit, in reality there's a reason they all want to leave their hell hole. I've done humanitarian work and never will I exchange my place to "chill day and night", as flawed our society is.
Yeah that was the weakest bit. First five or so episodes were pretty good though.
>communism might be bad but WHAT ABOUT CAPITALISTS LMAO
>surely they do it too, so its fine when we do it on a mass scale :)
>like sure chernobyl was the worst nuclear plant disaster on earth, but WHAT ABOUT 3 mile island?
>haha we have people starving but so do those 1st world countries!
Based seething commies coming out of the woodworks with this kino
Strong redpill
I'm from Greece and I dream the minute I will leave this borderline socialist shithole behind for the US
Wrong again anglo. I have experience in what I speak of.
Nah, you will regret it once you go.
What he's describing is literally how abos behave in Australia, you don't want to be an abo nigger son, this is no redpill
It's the Soviet Union. You have to understand that the Soviet Union was a communist dystopia where if someone questioned the government they would be executed or sent to labor camps to die along with their entire family. The Soviet Union had secret police that would just make you disappear if you were seen to make trouble for the government.
People weren't in denial they were afraid to speak out because it could literally result in their deaths.
absolute mad men
No you don't and you have absolutely no argument to back you up, except ad hominem and assumptions based on nothing. Now go back to your forest commie shit.
Ukraine isnt third world
I'd much rather hang out with abos than an anglo.
>you will regret it
No I won't. Perhaps not every person thinks the same way you do, I actually like having choices, the ability to do drugs legally, low taxes, etc
Not to mention carrying guns for self-defense
That dial tone is unnerving as fuck
>Meanwhile, places in the tropics or Africa or China or Europe that are basically just farmland and villages have people that know each other and chill out day and night by the side of the road making jokes and overall love life.
half of it is right now bud
>You have to understand that the Soviet Union was a communist dystopia where if someone questioned the government they would be executed or sent to labor camps to die along with their entire family.
Under Stalin yes but this was the 80s under westaboo Gorbachov I don't think they would do something like that
Yeah, hanging out with gasoline sniffing sub-80 IQ mongrels living off welfare and doing nothing all day sure is living the dream for a commie.
Don't reply to tripfags or namefags you tourists
They are all attention whores, and barely have any arguments. Don't give them attention.
i hope you're saving all of your posts so you can look back and cringe once you become an adult
Guns are a meme and you don't need them. And you can do drugs illegally lol I've done it all my life.
Who is the women scientist they are foreshadowing doing the testing?
>you don't need them
Fuck off commie, if I think I need them, I need them
Go use a dildo for self defense
You're probably right, but in the USSR it would mean you are completely outcast from society and the people as your status as a communist would be revoked I believe.
Because if there was an accident, like the one that occurred, or an EMP, it would be protected in the safe and thus still functional if needed.
lol you're not even Greek
Don't overthink, they just put it there for storage.
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>I actually like having choices
*forced to spend $300,000 on healthcare
>the ability to do drugs legally,
*opioid crisis
> low taxes
*debt spending
>Not to mention carrying guns for self-defense
*fear caused by corruption
Gorachev was 1985 and Chernobyl was 1986. I agree that glasnost was changing things but from a cultural standpoint the ghost of Stalin was very real and the Cold War was still going. People were still fucking terrified of the KGB even if the gulags were closing.
Grocery store?
>forced
Im not forced to actually, I am forced when I pay taxes like a cuck in greece
>opioid crisis
What about it? It's just biblethumper faggots
>fear caused by corruption
No person is ever non-corrupt
whatever did he mean by that
I'm hoping that's the twist. Build everything up to be as true to life as possible and then suddenly a mutant zombie outbreak
Oh without a doubt. My parents were born and raised in Yugoslavia and they've told me how nobody really dared say anything against the government and Yugoslavia was no where near as bad as the Soviet Union as far as kill count and oppression against citizenry go. I think you are right of the perception the Soviet citizens had against the Government I just don't think the Soviet Union would've done something like that in 1986
Based.
Transitria is the glorious continuation of the USSR you plkeb.
based boomer
It's a deterrent. The true value is the threat of the use of nuclear weapons, rather than the weapons themselves.
Maybe. The nuclear plants were kind of the pride of the government. I imagine there would be a massive penalty for spreading alarm or misinformation about one of them failing. So even if someone wasn't outright murdered their career would be over and they would face poverty or imprisonment.
So I think the denial was part ignorance and part fear.
So when are we gonna see the Elephant foot?
Its ghost in scottish gaellic