>operating RBMK nuclear reactor >uranium gets hit with neutron, splits into two pieces, and releases energy along with 2-3 high energy neutrons >high energy neutrons must be thermalized, i.e., slowed to 'room temperature' by colliding with graphite >thermalized neutrons collide with u235 and reaction is self sustaining >fission produces some unwanted side products, such as xenon-135 which absorbs neutrons ~4000x more readily than u235 >not a problem if operating at the same power level, but increasing or decreasing power changes the relative concentration of neutrons to xe-135 and the reactivity change is intensified.
>some kgb comrade insists that reactor needs to be tested for emergency loss of power accident >need to lower power level of reactor to perform test >insert neutron absorbing control rods to lower level according to reactivity change per distance inserted >forget to account for xenon-135 build up >power level drops dramatically >lower power level means that not enough heat is generated to evaporate all of the water, which absorbs even more neutrons >reactor goes to ~5% power level, almost shuts down >images of gulag flash in mind, test must continue >take out nearly all neutron absorbing control rods so reactor doesn't shut down >quasi-stable, reactor power is bouncing up and down very quickly around 200 MW >water starts boiling and increases steam fraction of core, meaning less neutrons are being absorbed >decide to perform emergency shut down >control rods have graphite on the end, increase amount of neutrons in the reactor >reactor power goes from 400 MW to ~48000 MW in less than a second (power gauges don't go that high so no one knows for sure) >steam explosion occurs, followed by what is thought to be a second steam explosion >power plant in sweden detects excessive radiation levels a thousand kilometers away
>"Ey comrades, did you have a nuclear accident?" >"nah lol, control tank exploded, you're delusional. Get to the infirmary"
yeah, stupid people, I'd steal a truck and gtfo of there, shoot me in the head for not following orders, a bullet in the brain is a quicker death than ARS.
Oliver Allen
No you wouldn’t
Julian Nguyen
Yeah, I definitely would. Sorry you're a cowardly tripfag that would sullenly follow orders to his death.
Nolan Thomas
I hate to sound autistic since I posted this in another thread but wouldn't the graphite be too physically temperature hotfor the firefighter to just casually pick up.
Xavier Cook
anyone else filter every tripfag they see
Aiden Sullivan
I read that the black tags they wear are to show if they've been exposed to radiation. Is that tag black in the OP? Or has he not been exposed yet?
Tyler Hall
It's probably a dosimeter to keep track of how much radiation they've been exposed to. It's required for nuclear workers under even normal conditions since radiation exposure is supposed to be always regulated
Matthew Baker
Do you guys taste metal?
John Morgan
pump water, incels.
>At first, Ouchi came into the hospital with just some puffy redness to his skin. Ouchi's chromosomes had been hit by a direct blast of radiation and were a jumbled mess. Without this vital blueprint, his cells would no longer be able to regenerate. The first real problem doctors noticed was a drastic decrease in white blood cells. Day 6, he was placed into a sterile (bubble) room. The doctors determined that the only way to improve Ouchi's condition would be to give him a transplant of cells that would generate white blood cells. Day 7, Ouchi receives a transplant from his sister (a match). The doctor would meet with the family every day to candidly discuss his condition. Signs of radiation sickness were beginning to show up on the surface of Ouchi's body. A nurse recalls how at first, they were able to use tape on his body, but soon when they'd go to remove the tape, skin would come off with it. Ultimately, there was nowhere left where tape could be used. When his skin started to slough off from the top down, no new cells could be formed to repair the skin. His breathing started to get erratic. (At this point, they show a nurse's written record of Ouchi and he's saying, "No more" "I'm going home" "Please stop" "Mom") Day 11, to help him breathe, Ouchi is hooked up to a ventilator. This meant he'd no longer be able to speak to his family. The family (wife, son, parents, and siblings) visited him every day.
Anthony Parker
>Day 18, the transfusion from his sister seems to have worked, and Ouchi's white blood cell count returns to healthy levels. A week later, abnormalities are found in his blood. It seemed that the radiation in Ouchi's body had damaged the chromosomes in the cells that he received from his sister. Day 27, problems beyond the skin and blood: (They show video of his intestines. The membranes are deteriorating.) He begins experiencing excessive diarrhea. 3 weeks after the diarrhea starts, the intestines start to hemorrhage (another video of his intestines, this time with blood.) He was given lots of blood transfusions, as many as 10 times in 12 hours. To help his circulation and put less pressure on his skin, Ouchi is moved to a special rotating bed. The places where he'd lost skin were seeping blood and fluids. He had to be wrapped almost completely in gauze. A nurse recalls how there was so much fluid leaking that it'd take half a day just to deal with the gauze, and how painful it must have been for Ouchi, although they gave him lots of medicine to sleep. His wife recalls how he bled out of his eyes, as if he was crying blood. He was losing 10 liters of fluid a day through his skin and intestines.
Alexander Edwards
>In order to curb the loss of fluid through the skin, doctors began daily skin transplants with special "bio skin." (At this point, his skin was pretty much gone.) Unfortunately, the bio skin wouldn't adhere to his body. A doctor explains that all the doctors probably knew that Ouchi's chances of survival were low, but nobody dared say so out loud. Vocalizing any doubt could have led everyone to start questioning what they were doing and for who. A visibly traumatized nurse recounts how Ouchi continued to deteriorate and was hooked up to a machine, and in her losing battle to keep him alive, she wondered, "What am I doing this for?" She had to remind herself that she was doing it for Ouchi. 2 months after the accident, as Ouchi goes through a continuous process of hemorrhaging and blood transfusions, his heart continues to work hard to pump blood through his body, averaging over 120 beats per minute. The strain on his heart is similar to someone who is running a marathon. Day 59, suddenly, Ouchi's heart stops. As the medical staff works to revive him, his heart starts and stops three times. After an hour, Ouchi's heart begins beating on its own again. The traumatized nurse recounts that she was relieved when his heart started beating again, "but..." (implying conflicted feelings.) Having his heart stop for an hour affected his brain, kidneys, etc. and his condition quickly declined. His body was essentially being kept alive by machines and medicine.
Brody Hughes
we know, this is posted in every thread.
Levi Cook
Carbon is a terrible heat conductor. Its the reason people can walk barefoot on burning coals. plus that thing had probably laid out in the open air for at least 30 minutes and he was wearing soviet fire figher gloves, meaning they were probably made out of pure asbestos and could tank the heat for the glory of the motherland.
Jaxson Perez
Thanks my expertise is on LWRs so I'm not terribly familiar with all the aspects of graphite moderated reactors.
Jeremiah Robinson
t. Roof shoveler
Jaxon Anderson
i was looking forward to the show but was sorely disappointed at how blatant the anti-soviet propaganda is. not to mention it's boring as fuck iit doesn't even go into the nuance of a melt down and its implications. the show goes out of its way to feed you reactionary politics instead
Brayden Perry
you're in shock. go to the infirmary.
Josiah Anderson
>implying the Soviets weren't hilariously incompetent by the late 80s as their economy started to collapse
Jordan Perry
nice green wall simplifying the stuff for me.
Mason Allen
But it's pretty much exactly how the incident went. The head people at the plant didn't even know for hours that the core was exposed despite works literally saying it, because orders were that soviet union doesn't have major nuclear accidents) It's not propaganda to state the truth you mutt
Jeremiah Torres
Archive the tread, contain the spread of misinformation
give it to me straight is this show actually worth watching or did i stumble into another HBO shill thread?
Angel Roberts
To be fair the test was supposed to start at 700-1000 MW but mr big brain wanted to start at 200, doesn't mean the reactor wasn't fucking shit but still
Gavin Bell
It's great.
Asher Phillips
comrade lenin would be proud
Ayden Sanders
Terror 2.0
Chase Thomas
first episode was great, but the screen writer is craig mazin so i`m bit worried
could have been 10 times better if they had shown the moments before the accident but yeah, pretty good
Blake Price
You know what I see when I see those writing credits?
>I've got fuck-you-money now
Ayden Powell
I think they will as they start to investigate why the explosion happened.
Jeremiah Hall
Arthurovich, the readings are no more than 3.6 roentgen! If you would just have a little FAITH and drop the control rods into the core we can get through this without issue. Now call the fire department!
Its a perfectly acceptable mini-series based on real events. Realistic but also a some well placed dramatization here and there. Lighting is a bit on the dark side because "if half the screen is black then you'll know its a serious show."
If you're interested in dystopian fiction as well its a good show because its not that often you see dystopian societies deal with disasters like this.
Josiah Hill
a daring synthesis
Angel Flores
ITT: delusional faggots. Get to the infirmary.
Isaiah Long
>made of pure asbestos That made me laugh because it could be true
William Lopez
Great (and as as far as I can tell, physically sound) context. 10/10, OP is actually a good guy.
>Yuvchenko explained to them, 'there were no control rods left'. Nonetheless, the four men climbed a stairwell to Level 35 to survey the damage from a ledge 114ft up. Yuvchenko wedged his body against the massive steel and concrete door into the reactor hall to keep it open, while Perevozchenko and the technicians inched on to a ledge to search for the control rod mechanism. 'If the door had closed, they would have been buried there,' says Yuvchenko.
Perevozchenko held out a torch, and the three men gazed with horror into the blazing maw of the ruined reactor: they realised their mission to lower the control rods was absurd. They remained on the ledge for only as long as Yuvchenko held the door: a single minute. But by that time it was too late; all three had received a fatal dose of radiation. '
Radiation fucking horrifies me. The thought of something completely invisible just making your body slowly fall to pieces is terrifying.
Like those guys who went inside to check the core and saw that it had exploded, they were basically dead the moment they entered the room without even knowing it.
You bugging out could mean more die. You took the job and knew the risks, you need to control your fuck up and save lives.
Jose Reed
There are some similarities. It's a story about brave men fighting together against a terrible predicament. Also, Hickey is in it. He doesn't have the beard but he's still cute.
Noah Cox
If I close my eyes it won't hurt me.
Easton Anderson
w-what would happen if you jerked off into it
Julian Turner
I'm a bit of a brainlet who probably needs a motion graphic youtube video showing how this happened.
>increasing or decreasing power changes the relative concentration of neutrons to xe-135 and the reactivity change is intensified How do they increase or decrease power? Neutron firing rate from external source? Why does the neutron-xe relation change when changing power? I thought more neutrons=more fission=more xenon-135.
What are the control rods made out of? Why do they have graphite at the end, if they're supposed to lower neutron quantity? Why did graphite get into the reactor, if they wanted to shut the whole thing down?
Isaiah Stewart
> Why is there smoke coming out of reactor 4 Dyatlov? > Ohh that isn't smoke. It's steam! Steam from the exploded hydrogen tank.
It's really spoopy due to the terrifying nature of radiation poisoning that's almost completely unexplored in film and television but it's not like the direction or acting or anything is remarkable. In fact I'd say the acting is actually kind of poor. But it's still terrifying regardless.
Does anyone think the show is particularly special aside from the material it's adapting?
The second part of this should be the goiania incident
Eli Moore
This show is so comfy. I want to live there. I'd rather live with radiation among whites than with perfect air among niggers.
Jose Thomas
HBO should make a miniseries about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Justin Perry
good job
James Flores
Underrated
Dylan King
That would be an extremely dark comedy about human idiocy.
Nathan Richardson
Could anyone have seen that the night it happened and live to tell the tale ? Or are you a dead man walking once you get close enough to see it
Hudson Ortiz
>how blatant the anti-soviet propaganda is The only blatant anti-soviet propaganda was the elderly party official with the the fruits of labour speech because he was too on the nose. Otherwise, it was spot on.
Ya I was really scared when someone listed his work. But most screen writer's or directors, never have a single hour of material as good as the first episode of this was, in their entire lives.
Michael Phillips
Nah, it should be the Banqiao Reservoir Dam Failure, (230,000 killed), Bhopal disaster (500,00 injured) or one of the countless fossil fuel disaster as to clear up that nuclear accidents are not the only industrial accident that can be truly catastrophic.
that scene in the BBC documentary is so fucking scary >the readings aren't 3.6 anymore. they're 15000, FIFTEEN THOUSAND
Alexander Morris
>Ouchi, right in the chromosomes
Christian Morgan
nonsense comrade, dosimeter must be faulty
Jackson Hill
In the event of a nuclear disaster, is underwater the best place to be if you want to be safe from radiation?
David Wood
How come everyone who posts anything half intelligent about nuclear physics in these threads always types in disjointed sentence fragments?
Juan Richardson
because they did something with their life rather than learning how to write prose you illiterate fuck
Cooper Robinson
good so far, but only one episode out yet. Could turn to shit
Connor Stewart
>Sir, thousands of Ukrainian lives are at risk! >Full speed ahead
Kevin Kelly
can someone explain how radiation kills you? as i understand it the radioactive atom goes into your body then when it mixes with the other atoms it causes them to split and a chain reaction happens. so basically all your cells break down into different elements.
is this right or am i a brainlet? this is what i remember from hs
Austin Foster
lmao commie cope get the fuck out of here you big pinko faggot
Luke Harris
high energy radiation causes the atoms in your cells to fission or fuse into elements they aren't supposed to be, which fucks your shit up because your body is very finely tuned to support specific elements in specific quantities
Grayson Myers
SupaHotFire needs to be culled; he's everywhere now
Joshua Ward
nah u ded
Oliver Hall
it's basically getting hit with an infinite amount of microscopic knives
there are no atom level changes because that shit requires way more energy, but molecular scale breakdowns are enough to kill you
Lincoln Hall
Funny thing is Belarus got the worst of it
Ryder Reed
is this good or nah? I'm interested in the subject but don't have HBO so i'd have to pirate
Jordan James
>Dyatlov! The reactor's on fire! >No, comrade, that's just the tar roof
Matthew Collins
ask the divers who went to release the water under the reactor never to come back
Nolan Diaz
The most funny thing that USSR knew something like that could happen, but they refused to modernize RBMK reactors because it was too expensive.
Cooper Cox
very nice
Evan Stewart
Then it must be pretty accurate. Thank you comrade
Alexander Robinson
i was looking forward to this show but we deeply disappointed with the diverseness of the cast. It's disgusting that even today they continue to make shows with all white actors, where are the POC? Are they insinuating that people of color and women can't be nuclear physicists? This show is disgustingly problematic and i encourage everyone to boycott HBO.
Ryder Bennett
kek
Robert Phillips
Radiation damage is caused by several different things. You've got alpha particle radiation, which is a bunch of small nuclei consisting of two protons and two neutrons. This one isn't very dangerous. Then you've got beta particle radiation, which is high-speed electrons ejected from the atom during the radioactive decay. This one can seriously fuck you up and cause contact burns on touch. Finally, there's gamma radiation. This is high-energy electromagnetic radiation caused by the radioactive decay of atomic nuclei. It's by far the worst of them all, as it passes through your body, damaging your bone marrow, internal organs, and even your very chromosomes in the process. It has so much energy it knocks off electrons from the atoms and molecules inside you.
Adrian Price
If it was a minute, it was way more radioactive then the fucking Elephant's foot. The Elephant's foot at the time of discovery was giving off 80 Sieverts / hour or about 1.3 Sievert a minute. 5 Sieverts is fatal so less then 5 minutes will kill you. If these guys were in there for a minute, they got hit with 5 sieverts. That's 300 sieverts an hour. Makes sense since the reactor was still partially active.
Aiden Moore
>This one isn't very dangerous. techinically, it's extremely dangerous, but only if you ingest it directly because alpha particles can't penetrate skin or even light clothing
Owen Mitchell
Nah you want to be in a nuclear bunker
Aiden Smith
Depends on the type of radiation, but generally it's more like playing pool with your atoms. Knock enough of them out of place, and your cell has nowhere to go but death.
Picture it like trying to read a paragraph, but the letters are slowly jumbling up. The more jumbled it gets, the less coherent you can be, the more mistakes you make. And when you make X number of mistakes, you shoot yourself in the head, or you go insane and become cancerous.
That's what radiation is like. A little bit and maybe you get cancer in 70 years if you're unlucky, a lot and your skin sloughs off because of mass cell death and necrosis.
Landon Bailey
What is the point of posting this? We all know it's a false-flag and do we really need to be reminded of retarded identity politics?
Zachary Scott
>>If it was a minute, it was way more radioactive then the fucking Elephant's foot. No shit, buddy. The elephant's foot was mostly lead and graphite, meanwhile those poor bastards stared into the gaping maw of an ongoing reaction, and had their heads incinerated. The guy who looked down at it from the roof died pretty fucking quick too.
Without a solid slab of concrete a few feet thick in the way, you are going to get cooked.
Brody Garcia
I think we should evacuate the town!
Thomas Rivera
The atons dont break apart, just the molecules. It hits dna which disables the cell or causes mutations. One atom splitting releases enough energy to lift a piece of paper.
Adrian Gomez
It's only 3.6 roentgen. Not great but not terrible.
Dominic Hughes
evacuate the town for a small fire? You need to go to infirmary
>Builds a nuclear power plant >Gets the guy who slices thin meats at the deli to run the thing >surprise, surprise it blows up
David Perry
I meant relatively speaking, of course. But yes, you're right.
Xavier Turner
They knew many of their reactors could easily blow up. >Efim Slavsky (minister of medium machine building): There is a problem with a turbine at the Leningrad nuclear power plant. There is a crack in the turbine shaft. 6,000 revolutions per minute. One explosion and everything will blow up there too. Twenty-six graphite rods were needed, but there were only five.
nah, no chance, pure asbestos is crystalline - wouldn't be flexible or strong enough to make a glove out of. they're at most 80% asbestos.
Ryder Gray
I'm not sure about that to be honest. But even in that case you'd have to be getting hit by a fuck load of alpha particles for a dangerous amount of them to hit your eyes specifically
Elijah Martin
>he says most of filming was done in Lithuania >remember my mom said something about soviet era foreign production being filmed near her workplace about a year ago
After the two guys looked at the burning core why did the guy who held the door open start to bleed from his waist?
Yeah he was exposed to radiation but everyone else was puking and not randomly bleeding through their skin.
Josiah Evans
they all survived
>Upon succeeding and emerging from the water, according to many English language news articles, books and the prominent BBC docudrama Surviving Disaster – Chernobyl Nuclear, the three knew it was a suicide-mission and began suffering from radiation sickness and died soon after. Some sources also incorrectly claimed that they died there in the plant. However, research by Andrew Leatherbarrow, author of the 2016 book Chernobyl 01:23:40, determined that the frequently recounted story is a gross exaggeration. Alexei Ananenko continues to work in the nuclear energy industry, and rebuffs the growth of the Chernobyl media sensationalism surrounding him. While Valeri Bezpalov was found to still be alive by Leatherbarrow, the 65-year-old Baranov had lived until 2005 and had died of heart failure.
Henry Diaz
get out of here stalker
Cameron Reed
He pressed himself against the metals for a while, which was heavily irradiated by that time.
Brandon Foster
every bit of him in contact with the door he held open was bleeding. The side of the door that had been hit with atoms for ages.
Same as the fireman guy who picked up the graphite then his hand started melting.
Liam Mitchell
what's the source on your pic? I want to read it.
Caleb Perry
Contact radiation burns. IIRC it takes a bit longer in real life, but directly touching heavily irradiated surfaces can give you beta burns.
>can someone explain how radiation kills you? It gives the viruses and bacteria in your body superpowers. If they get mad they hulk out and tear you apart from the inside out.
Mason Williams
> Why is there smoke coming out of reactor 4 Dyatlov? > Ohh that isn't smoke. It's sneed! Sneed from the exploded feedrogen tank.
David Ortiz
show was okay so far but why did a single episode spawn unfunny memes and reddit-tier roleplaying?
Ryan Martinez
see
Carson Baker
Not sure if serious question but these are trolleybuses that run on electricity that is supplied through those "antlers", goes around roundabouts at 2mph because of them the slow turds piss me off every time I get stuck behind one
Logan Taylor
It destroys the cells so that they can't multiply. You won't grow new skin cells, you won't get new blood cells or white cells that are supposed to kill viruses and bacteria. Basically your body won't be able to regenerate. It can also give you cancer in which the cells start to multiply the wrong way and often too much which will result in tumors.
Easton Cox
By the way, pic related (the guy with a cane) is Ananenko last year.
It's a film that has to be developed in a dark room to determine your dosage. The tags are supposed to be checked and replaced at regular intervals to monitor leaks and contamination as regular operating procedure. It's only black because the holder is black.
The problem with film meters like this is that they're entirely passive and only warn you after the fact. If you're receiving a lethal dosage, you won't know until it's too late.
>a comedy series about subhuman hues getting rekt through their own stupidity Brazilian Jackass
Gavin Morris
Because it's a TV show. Realistically, he wouldn't have bled at all, although he might have felt an itch and lifted up his shirt to reveal a large burn-like mark.
But that doesn't flow well for TV, so he just starts oozing blood for no good reason. Anyone who does that shit doesn't survive, and yet this guy is supposed to live.
Asher Jenkins
trams on wheels basically
Josiah Lopez
Reminder that this show is going full SJW next week, you should just stop watching now. They're introducing a female scientist character who is an "amalgam" of a bunch of actual male scientists because the show doesn't have enough women to hit the quota otherwise.
Christian Moore
its really pretty safe, you can swim in the water of spent fuel pools and be safe up to a certain distance to the rods, there are some videos about it because its done today too for maintenance
Luis Bennett
Congratulations Fontaine you got a son.
Brody Wilson
Fucking retard
Owen Williams
extremely underrated post
Xavier Hall
>imagine being this paranoid
Luke Jenkins
I accidentally pushed power drive lever on the bridge and I wasn't aware cuz it's on a night watch I was 2nd officer on a chemical tanker ship and the bridge was generally dark without light because we are sailing whatever after my mistake main engine load goes from 82% to 95% in a swift. Engine sound changes until I realise what I did I got call from engine room and engineer asked what was going on and then my heart started to to pound like crazy and I rushed and immediately pull back the lever to it's original position untill M/E back to 82%load shit was dreadful enough for me. So I can relate mildy to Dyatlov's position an unfortunate event from your mistake it's hell to swallow.
By the way a week later or so turbocharger air supply unit of main engine broke down during a channel passage at antwerp I still think it's me who drove the final nail to old turbocharger's coffin. lel.
The USSR had a lot of female scientists, dumbfuck. Since many "ideologically suspicious" fields like sociology, psychotherapy, or real economics were banned, people who wanted to study science of any kind had to go study math and physics.
Joseph Murphy
The only thing I noticed that was particularly bad that could be attributed to a screenwriter was the scenes with the soot landing on the civilians. At first, you could just barely make out the soot as people were watching from afar, which would have been subtle masterwork, but then the focus shifted entirely on the fallout to the point of egregiousness. Every cut centered more and more on the particulates landing on people and collecting in their hair and they even started dancing in it. It lasted a good minute longer than it needed to and every consecutive second spent on it was more on-the-nose than the last.
I really don’t understand why everyone’s making such a big deal out of this. A handful of people died, and the area surrounding the power plant is perfectly safe. See for yourselves. t. local
Guy who looked down was actually thought to be getting better, but his condition suddenly worsened 50-something days after hospitalisation. He got really unlucky, both bone marrow transplants he received were rejected by what was left of his immune system. By this time almost everyone who also got extreme doses (6 of the first responder firefighters and almost all 4th block operators) were long since dead.
Kind of disappointed they didn't start the story like 40 seconds before, missed the opportunity to show Perevozchenko's face go to dead inside mode when he was looking at 350-kg metal bricks of biological protection cover shown here starting dancing up and down 50 meters from where he was like the fucking nuclear pressure cooker about blow up (which is kind of exactly what happened initially). He was literally in the reactor room when pressure went to the moon at the speed of 15 atmospheres per second and safety valves were blown to shit not being able to keep with this explosive pressure growth.
Adam Richardson
Did you get shit for what you did, your did you play it off as some sort of malfunction?
Matthew Diaz
wasn't the elephants foot supposed to be around 10,000 roentgens?
the reactor #4 roof was 15,000 roentgens when the liquidators were up there. god knows how high it was the inside the reactor building right after the accident
Gavin Morgan
It does irreparable damage to your DNA at certain rates of exposure. The processes that keep you alive start shutting down because protein synthesis and cell division go haywire.
Asher Bell
youtu.be/BekwAtZjExc?t=2 >When the Hydrogen tank explodes but everyone tells you the reactor is gone
Jaxon Reed
in a perfect world
Wyatt Garcia
The meter says 3.6 roentgens
Isaiah Harris
Check out the "biological shield". You know what that is for? Well, that got blown off, so there is nothing stopping the neutrons from leaving the reactor, which means you'd get a lethal dose of radiation in seconds if you took a peak.
You're confusing elecromagnetic radiation with particle radiation, i.e., free neutrons. Neutrons are the worst and are the ones that destroy the body on a cellular level.
Gamma is the least dangerous, it just passes through you. Alpha is dangerous, depending on whether you are wearing clothing, or if it's sitting on dust, in which case when you inhale the dust your lungs absorb it.
Beta, or X-rays, are hit and miss, based on if you're wearing protective clothing or not like lead.
tl;dr electromagnetic radiation good, particle radiation bad
Mason Sullivan
A British animation called When the Wind Blows deals with radiation sickness
Evan Foster
men like me
Logan Wright
Great series so far but those "get to the infirmary", "get on the roof" etc. reddit memes are extremely fucking cringe, stop that shit
Do I need to FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE in order to enjoy this show? I don't know much about radiation other that it being a thing from Fallout that kills you.
William Sanders
>The closest thing to what it would look like would be this: People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Michael Sullivan
I wouldn't call ionising gamma rays not dangerous. It doesn't get absorbed that much, but it will fuck you up the same way as particle radiation does given high enough levels.
Nolan Miller
>trying to make a point posting a static image of one of the most reddit-tier gifs possible
Owen Johnson
You have to go to the roof user.
Matthew Hughes
No, the episode is very show don't tell. There are some nice details you'd think is really neat if you know the science of, but it's not required by any mean.
Who are these fucking faggots making sweeping claims saying that people using quotes from a new show they like is somehow forced reddit memes? Get the fuck over yourself you no fun allowed faggots.
Angel Perry
Fuck, you’re good with words, user.
Julian Cox
Guys, what's the roentgen meter reading? feeling a little poached over here.. lads?
>Gamma rays are ionizing radiation and are thus biologically hazardous. Due to their high penetration power, they can damage bone marrow and internal organs. Unlike alpha and beta rays, they pass easily through the body and thus pose a formidable radiation protection challenge, requiring shielding made from dense materials such as lead or concrete.
>Low levels of gamma rays cause a stochastic health risk, which for radiation dose assessment is defined as the probability of cancer induction and genetic damage.[13] High doses produce deterministic effects, which is the severity of acute tissue damage that is certain to happen. These effects are compared to the physical quantity absorbed dose measured by the unit gray (Gy). Are you high? Calling high-energy electromagnetic radiation "good" is some next level shit. Also, beta particle radiation and X-rays are not the same thing. X-ray is electromagnetic radiation with a wave length between ultraviolet radiation and gamma rays.
Lucas Torres
All right, both are dangerous, but I'd prefer the former over the latter, since every day we're exposed to radiation, but never are we exposed to chunky fat boy neutrons ripping our DNA to shreds.
No I didn't after a few minutes captain came on the bridge because of the sound and vibration change and I said what I did and everything was okay after I pull it back and later on nobody suspected that night because engineers already neglected -on purpose by company's order- regular overhaul of the turbine because of the cost of spare parts. In the end insurance covered the whole because everything was as it should be on paper and no foul play found on records but reality was way more different just like in Chernobyl ;^)
the simple retard version I was taught when covering nuclear physics and nuclear chem in school was
Gamma: high penetration, low damage Beta: moderate penetration, moderate damage Alpha: very low penetration(only if the parent isotope gets inside the body), high damage Neutron: very high penetration, very high damage
Brayden Barnes
Are you dumb? Serious question
Asher Hall
Listen to this a bit. You can tell it's a passion project of his
Aaron Jenkins
why are u on every thread about this show with ur garbage posts?
Bentley Scott
Not him but yeah I think that scene laboured the point a little also, they shouldn't have focused on it at all, it should have just been there as you say in the background whilst still driving home the bystanders naivety
I hope they don't do anymore of that
Jeremiah Barnes
just look up radiation poisoning and what it does to the human body
OP here, I'm studying nuclear engineering in my last year of undergrad.
>How do they increase or decrease power? The reaction is self-sustaining, meaning the fission which produces energy also produces neutrons which produce fission. The change in power level is dependent on the ratio between neutrons produced over neutrons consumed so if you want to lower the power, then you need to absorb more neutrons than are produced in fission.
>Why does the neutron-xe relation change when changing power? That is true, more neutrons=more fission=more Xe-135 produced. However, the more neutrons in the environment, the faster the rate at which Xe-135 absorbs neutrons and becomes Xe-136 which barely absorbs neutrons comparatively. During operation, if the fission rate is held constant, then the Xe-135 concentration will increase until the rate of xenon produced is equal to the rate that xenon is removed. Therefore, if the power increases, the neutron population increases and a lot of the xenon gets consumed very quickly, and now you're operating a reactor with very little xenon relative to before the power shift. The same also applies in the other direction, and the xenon is not getting consumed as quickly as it is being produced and it is having a much larger negative reactivity effect.
Also the majority of Xe-135 comes from the decay of I-135, not from fission itself, so the concentration is mostly dependent on the rate of fission ~11 hours earlier.
>What are the control rods made out of? Boron carbide, it absorbs neutrons
>Why do they have graphite at the end? Retardation.
Why did graphite get into the reactor? The reactor structure is graphite to promote the thermalization of neutrons. One fatal flaw is that if there's an emergency, the reaction continues to grow, while with regular water-moderated reactors, if there's a loss of coolant, the reaction stops.
Joseph Bell
Why are they dressed as chefs? Cooking some al dente Pripyat?
Kevin Butler
RBMK reactors cannot explode, you are just stupid
Lucas Reyes
shit fucks up and makes different elements in your body which you don't react very well to...a lot of the bad responses you body experiences are from the radiation converting shit in your body to hydrogen peroxide
Let's not forget the firefighters who despite working near a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT fought the fire with NO HAZMAT GEAR.
Brayden Nguyen
Chernobyl gets a lot of attention but no one gives a shit about Chelyabinsk.
Eli Martinez
drink some water tovarich
Sebastian Campbell
>On September 18, Alves sold the items to a nearby scrapyard. That night, Devair Alves Ferreira (the owner of the scrapyard) noticed the blue glow from the punctured capsule. Thinking the capsule's contents were valuable or even supernatural, he immediately brought it into his house. Over the next three days, he invited friends and family to view the strange glowing substance.
Brazilians really are monkey brained
Jaxson Ramirez
>cleaned that whole roof of debris with those shitty shovels 90 seconds at a time
Haha at least my parents won’t die in a Muslim terror attack eurocuck
Leo Morris
The control rods were made of boron carbide, and the tips were made of graphite. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to control the reactor in the slightest. Might as well call them power rods at that point.
british actors making russian accents in english is unnecessarily insulting to russians The alternative is to find only good actors, have them only speak in russian, and sub the entire show but maybe execs don't a) see how it would look like it has production values or/and b) sell to its primary viewerbase
Parker Sullivan
Don't really care that the actors all have islander accents, most burgers hate subtitled movies.
The cool (shitty) thing about nuclear power is you get ignorance and fear mongering from all across the political spectrum. He's as likely to be a neocon as he is a tree huger.
David Anderson
>You took the job and knew the risks They didn't though, as far as they knew there was nothing that could go wrong
Aiden Sanchez
The guy actually survived. IRL wounds started appearing when he was already in the Moscow Hopsital and he had issues with that shit even in 2004. He had dozens of skin grafts and blood transfusions while recovering.
Colton Ward
>Funny thing is Belarus got the worst of it What's funny about that?
The conditions in those places is always really depressing.
Brayden Morgan
The fuck are these letters, atleast use real cyrillic letters you fucking tard.
Nathaniel Baker
The dosage required to get ARS is extremely high. Even if a nuke plant blows up(not possible in the US), unless you are directly onsite, you aren't at any risk. In fact, a 2017 study of Chernobyl in Belgium concluded that the area around the plant should NOT have been evacuated.
Zachary Gonzalez
Adam Nagaitis went from Hickey to Thiccey
Justin Williams
Being in the USSR must of been some serious unreality. Everything about everything was so fucky.
Joseph Gray
>You. Why aren't you pumping water into the core? >There is no core, chef. >Jesus Christ. I'm surrounded by donkeys
reposting my ussr defence post from last thread if you actually look into the disaster what a lot of people miss is the bottom line >28 dead >lots of people sick >pretty minimal damage the whole disaster turned into a corrupt cleanup scam where companies would charge tons of money to perpetuate studies that they still need to spend hundreds of millions to clean up the site
all in all it was a freak accident. the whole incredulity at the core actually exploding? there is no way that should have happened. and there is a general consensus on the events but still no hard timeline of how exactly it happened. but the guys at the plant did their fucking jobs and sacrificed their lives for the better good. the soviet response in general was pretty understandable and they handled things well.
>this all happened because of safety safety safety concerns and the actual plant was so safe but they were worried about a fucking 1 minute gap between shutdown and backup power kicking in so the crusade for safety instead of well enough alone is what caused the worst nuclear accident kinda ironic but also kinda upsetting.
and thats an american opinion. all that being said the fact they didnt have proper dosimeters and just assumed everything was reading off the charts or best case scenario was beyond incompetent. there should have been triple redundancy at every fucking level of the people involved. >hospital didnt stock up on radiation meds either come on ussr.
and Im gonna keep posting it until all you alarmist faggots wise up about how it was actually handled very well >actual vatnik posters have renewed my hatred of russians ITT's I cannot believe the amount of USA BAD RUSSIA STRONK in every fucking thread we have here. its not anti soviet propaganda you fucking snow niggers. its a slightly dramatized historical docudrama.
Anthony Watson
Shockingly the most retarded post yet has been about busses.
Based and not delusional. You don't have to go on the roof comrade.
Thomas Perry
based putinbot
Ian Walker
And how can a US reactor with Negative void coefficient explode like chernobyl.
Isaac Walker
What happened to Flint, Michigan (and is still happening) is considerably worse than Chernobyl, classcuck.
Robert Ramirez
the alternative is having a predominantly british cast fake ukrainian or russian accents this is by far the better of the two possibilities
William Barnes
The Chernobyl engineers didn't know how their reactor could explode either.
Elijah Morales
Heard whispers that HBO is shilling this show on Yea Forums. Any truth to that?
Easton Reed
if it's true then HBO shills will tell you it's false, why bother asking?
Luis Johnson
Quit acting delusional.
Evan Evans
Yes I get paid to make Chernobyl memes
Ayden Price
What are you talking about? Are you thick? Americans or damn near anywhere else will or have ever face this bizarre almost unreality like what we saw this episode. It's this particular brand of absurdity via the state.
Ian Ward
Fission reactors are inherently unstable so of course they would know how the reactor explodes - the mechanisms for maintaining operating parameters would fail. Time pressure and social/political factors are usually what screw the pooch.
Jaxon Price
That shot of the Red Forest man.
Owen Moore
True, these threads must be shitposted in until they give up.
Xavier Brown
So this is a long version of the BBC drama/documentary?
Camden Price
If they are here then go tell your shitty bosses to fix the shitty HBO now service. Cant even play 5.1 audio. Ended up just torrenting it anyway.
Benjamin Nguyen
Its basic physics user.
In most reactors have a Negative void coefficient, (or in laymans terms, if there is no water or the water turns to steam, the reaction slows down as it needs the water to maintain the chain reaction. ) Thus in all those reactors, even if the fuel rods have no cooling, they will melt down and everything inside the containment cell is fucked but otherwise it is okay. The only type of exposion that can happen is a hydrogin explosion, which is much less of a power then a full scale steam explosion.
The RBMK reactor design (Which in all seriousness is a brilliant design for the most part) has a Positive void coefficient, which means if there is a lack of water or water turning to steam, it suddenly has huge power spikes as the reaction increases. (As the water slows down the reaction.) this caused a huge feedback loop in a few seconds as it generated a huge amount of heat, which boiled more water, which caused more power spikes, and then a massive steam explosion and then graphite fire (most us reactors do not even have graphite.)
Matthew Ross
If they are HBO has good shills. Good threads, Made me want to check out the show, that's pretty good as well
Dominic Rodriguez
HBO shills, fix the HBO now app and I'll remove my 1 star rating in the play store.
