Mark Kermode proposed a theory which states that a movie that
A: Has a budget that is big enough to be noteworthy
B: Stars an A list celebrity
C: Isn't a comedy
Is simply unable to flop in modern cinema. That is, anything which follows these criteria will at least make its money back and then some.
Is he right?
Mark Kermode proposed a theory which states that a movie that
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Zachary Mitchell
No. Look at Hellboy and Shazam.
Camden Evans
No.
Brody Murphy
Who was A list in either of those? Also Shazam was a comedy.
Charles Lopez
Probably not, though (((hollywood))) bookkeeping is so hilariously dishonest who even knows anymore
Gavin Bennett
>Is he right?
Logan Peterson
>Zachary Levi and Milla Jovovich
yeah those are A list lol you tard
Gavin Hill
waterworld
Samuel Price
Kermode is stupid thread?
Kermode is stupid thread
Leo Mitchell
They are literally not?
Water world would indeed be a good example, but it was made prior to his cutoff point for when this rule took effect.
Julian Barnes
BR 2049
Daniel Powell
Are Emilia Clarke, Woody Harrelson, or Donald Glover A-list?
Tyler Scott
Hell no. Donald Glover A list? Are you out of your mind LMAO.
Carson Wood
This guys a feminist. Nothing he says is of value.
Brody Brooks
>Woody
yes
>Clarke
she's B list, but two years from now nobody will know her
>Glover
barely C list, he's kinda big in music industry tho
Ryder Green
Shazam made 5 times its budget. Still more than double if you include the "marketing equal to the budget" shit. That's not a flop you retard.
Matthew Jackson
This will prove him wrong.
Lucas Butler
>Valerian
Chase Campbell
>D: Has a chink in the cast or is at least partially set in China
>E: Does not have uggos as love interest
Boom, job done
Colton Rodriguez
Kermode? More like Turdmode amirite lads?
Nicholas Nelson
>blocks your theory
Dylan Evans
If 85-113 million is considered noteworthy, then here's an example that proves him wrong.
Carter Reyes
No A-lister star.
Anthony Lewis
If Cutthroat Island was released today with an actor at the same peak as Geena Davis was in the 90s would it flop?
Carter Reyes
Kermode is a fucking hack.
Adam Allen
woody is not a list, he might have been for a 5-10 year period in the 90s/00s but his name alone will not get people to go see a movie these days. he's high b list though.
when people say a list they mean the tip top of the acting food chain. people like brad pitt, tom cruise, ryan gosling, jake gyllenhaal, etc.
Grayson Perez
dane dehaan is b list, cara whatshername b or c list.
Jose Long
>Movies that have effort put into them don’t fail
Wow no way
Robert Martin
Jayden Reyes
Julian Sullivan
"The Dark Tower" literally bombed just within the last year or two, and Tolkien is about to this week, so no, he is not right.
Levi Murphy
Oprah isn't an a-lister. She was in Color of Purple years ago, sure, but nobody outside of North America knows who she is at all. She once threw a tantrum in Italy because some boutique didn't give her vip treatment.
Adam Young
Reese Witherspoon is definitely an A-listed, and I think Chris Pine is there or close
Joseph Collins
idk, everytime he's in a movie, everyone I know talks about him, doesn't matter if it's main or support role
but fair enough, he's B+
Zachary Rodriguez
>She once threw a tantrum in Italy because some boutique didn't give her vip treatment.
Are you talking about the Switzerland thing? They called the cops on her because they thought her money was stolen.
Colton Price
Serenity?
Nolan Ross
Kermode is a hack fraud
I remember he spent 90% of his Entourage review talking about how much he disliked the vulgar excesses of the characters and not reviewing the movie at all
Entourage was always about fucking excess, that's like giving Ben Hur a bad review because you don't like history
Eli Hill
Easton Rivera
Except history is cool
Robert Watson
Mortal engines
The mummy
King Arthur
Valerian
Solo
Ghost busters
Live by night
Jaxon Martinez
its not his entire point when he's rasied this on the radio show was that the budget has to make the news on its own, when that happens its impossible to flop
Andrew Nguyen
>Budget: 25 million USD
are you illiterate?
Jackson Hall
All you have to do is get fuzzy about what qualifies the first two standards and you’re never wrong. Woman tier thoughts from what looks like a practicing transvestite.
Luke Fisher
>Ghost busters
>A list celebrities
Ryan Morgan
More like "commode," you mean.
Ayden Rivera
It's the "not a comedy" rule that he takes liberties with. He said Lone Ranger was a comedy because it would have discredited his theory otherwise.
Aaron Williams
Waterworld
Lincoln Green
>Superman v Batman starring Ben Affleck
>Oceans 11 remake with just A list females.
>The Mummy starring Tom Cruise
>Death Wish starring Bruce Willis.
>Annihilation starring Natalie Portman
>Ghost in the Shell starring Scarlett Johansson
So Mark Kermode is still full of shit.
Justin Bailey
>$100m budget not including marketing
>$350m gross
>5x its budget
Easton Morgan
None of those films flopped
Jaxon Myers
Blade Runner 2049
Jayden Wood
No, he's just jaded.
Jonathan Anderson
A listers are irrelevant nowadays. Replace it with "sequel, remake or based on a known commodity (capeshit)"
Eli Mitchell
Kermode is GigaChad bro
Jeremiah Johnson
Yeah, the fact that it cost 110 million to make while earning 169 million doesnt make Ghost in the Shell a flop at all.
Zachary Thompson
kermode is a literal cuck
Jose Russell
his theory should be amended to be C. isnt a comedy or a fucking anime lol
Evan Butler
It's not about flopping it's about bombing. A flop is something that just scrapes over the figures for the reported budget or performs worse than expected.
Bombing is John Carter levels of shit.