Let's go back to the previous episode...

there's a huge wall above him you donk, arya was shown to be able to navigate the winterfell walls/roofs with ease

Show niggers are so fucking stupid, if everything is based on the source material then the hints are already there, Dany was always going to become a tyrant with "good intentions" the problem is that show fags don't know how to read therefore miss the hints that GrrM set up, the show runners are retards sure and they are mostly fan fictioning all the way from seasons 6 and 7 which was literally fucking filler since there is no main boss wight walker, therefore there's no one hit kill that Arya could do.

Theon should have killed the Night King while Arya was getting choked out. It would have been the ultimate redemption. He deserved better than what he got.

given that she's a faceless man it's not hard to imagine. Jaqen H'gar was also very good at killing/moving back in S2.

Wall was too far away. Angle of her attack doesn't make sense if she was falling from one of those very far away walls. Still doesn't explain how she got through all those Wights and White Walkers.

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The problem is the entire pacing, we have had 7 seasons building up this great threat. And I mean building up, because until the end of Season 7 there was no real progress with the WW they were just fucking around in the north doing not much but touching babies and stabbing children and old men.

Then come season 8 and its all over in 3 episodes and one backstab. There was not even a single fight between any WW and any other major character, they were literally just there as screenfodder which served no purpose at all. Considering this is a series where we had the red wedding and church firestorm you would think that this major event of the last 7 seasons would be a big fucking deal with lots of important characters dying and realities changing for those left alive.

Instead the entire WW threat is over, gone, nothing happened in the end at all. You had 80 minutes of fodder dying, a few minor characters croaking and that was it.

The actual war between the humans and WW should have been a whole season long, with minor developments in the throne area, or it should have completely changed the entire throne event entirely. This basically just felt like the generic ending you would expect of any Tolkien-era fantasy setting, and not the red weddings/baylors nuke events you would expect from GRR or GoT generally.

>Jon
>Jaime
>Sandor
>Danaerys
>Brienne
None of them could even reach NK. Let alone kill him. We also don't even know what tricks he had up his sleeve which would probably be used to kill any of them. It seemed that he's only intersted in killing Bran and not fightign Jon or anyone.

Should have been Jhon Senow
Oh well.

Brainlet showfags

The thing is, you need at least one whole season dedicated to the Long Night. Anything less than that just feels cheap which it has done. Dumb and Dumber should have been kicked off as soon as Season 5 finished and given to actual competent fantasy writers.

she couldve jumped and done an ebin anime roll with her ssj noone skills and ran full speed up to him, they wouldnt have had time to catch her.

the true "what the fuck, how" moment is him falling for such a dumb trick

Not even a showfag. I just realize the show is its own thing and you should too.

So she was a faceless man using her faceless ability?
How did she move through all those Wights that weren't moving? Why did she take off the face? When did she take it off? How did they not notice her take off the face? Why did she scream at the top of her lungs if she was trying to be stealthy?

Dont project

Jon is surrounded by the dead and all seems lost when sudddenly Daenerys comes through with the Dragonfire killing everything around him and trying to take out Jon as well as she threatens her claim to the throne. But le gasp Jon is unharmed and a true dragon and he and the Night King face off 1v1 as he is also unscathed.

>what exactly is the alternative? Who could kill him at that point who wasn't Arya?
Just anything other than le shock value for reaction channels.
>Theon has a hidden dagger and stabs the NK with it after being speared, the dagger shatters into ice on impact
>Ghost tackles the NK as he’s reaching for the sword, he kills Ghost just as Jon enters the Godswood
>Jon 1v1s the NK as white walkers and Bran watch, queue shit of wind blowing past White Walker’s hair
>Jon is on the ground about to die when Arya screams and leaps

I understand all this and I agree the show had been poorly handled to say the least but given what happened up to that point all I'm saying is they basically wrote themselves into a corner.

When the NK reached Bran, either Arya kills him or he wins. There's no way Jon could or anyone else could without new information.

>hey don't have faceless man assassin skillz that Arya possesses.
How did those skills come into play again? Didn't she litterally just jump at him and stab him? Where was the magic faceless shit? She could of at least pretended to be one of his trusted capitans or some such shit then stabbed him in the back.

>wrote themselves into a corner
And? That doesnt change the stupidity of the story. They planned this series from day 1 and they failed miserably. There isnt anything else to discuss.

Diddn't wheel chair boy have a younger brother in earlier seasons? What the fuck ever happend to him?

It's literally impossible for it to be it's own thing unless you negate the first 3 seasons as filler besides what's crucial

He died like a bitch at the battle of the bastards

You should rule out anything involving brute force or fighting. The walkers and NK could basically defeat everyone.

Dragon fire was out of the question too. All that was left was trickery and/or magic. I was hoping that Tyrion/Sam/Bran would design some trick to kill him but that didn't seem like a thing. The Red Woman seemed to be useless against him too.

Only Arya could save the day. When you rule out the impossible you get the correct answer no matter how improbable.

I'm not disagreeing on stupid but starting with S8 and given what we know only Arya seems like reasonable choice. They should've built up something fare more satisfying and they also shouldn't be hacks but they didn't so it doesn't matter.

Diddn't GRRM himself say the show is its own thing?

I think the most popular suggestion is the battle of the tower of Joy escenario, Jon fighting with the night king, managing to hold his ground but being clearly inferior and Arya stabbing the NK in the back, they could still got their shitty arya power but it wouldn't shat on jon as a character

I literally said Arya kills him you “I love science” faggot.

Why are you mad?

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>notch dragonglass arrow
>loose

>but it wouldn't shat on jon as a character
It absolutely would have though. If he doesn't deliver the killing blow then he might as well be a useless extra. They should've have revealed him as azor ahai so they could fight and kill him.

Because your post was “well actually but didn’t acknowledge anything said in my post.
And I’ve been constipated all day so I’m pissed off

mfw I have a crush on jon snow
then I realize it's because he looks like my husband
and I'm pregnant
I love my life

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nothing wrong with arya getting the last hit, but it should have taken a serious team effort with timing and focus to end the nk

I did though. The first three would fail and the last one is the same but Jon fights him first which is just as stupid if not even more.

eat fiber and have sex

it was a great idea having the entire battle in the dark so you couldn't see anything

>nothing wrong with arya getting the last hit
A lot of people seem to think otherwise, including me honestly. It seemed like a Jon moment but it was impossible for him but possible for Arya.

she put in blue contacts and pretended to be dead

>Le had to be Arya!!
Is this the new shill tactic?

it would have made much more sense for her to jump out of the tree

right, I can see that too
I'm sure there would be a way to creatively balance it out to make it work

I said it had to be Jon but at that point it wouldn't be possible wihtout him gaining new powers.
Well but they'd have to change the whole season and might even go back a few seasons to fix the clusterfuck. But people seem to get mad only at the Arya thing as if anything else could do at that point. I would even take Tyrion or Sam or anything else honestly but no the NK literally face to face with Bran I honestly thought the showrunners might have some balls left and have them kill Bran and the good guys lose.

>The first three would fail
That’s what I said bucko.
Theon failing adds a setup to Arya stabbing him.
Ghost dying adds tension and gives user a reason to fight him.
>Jon fighting him is more stupid than Arya backstabbing him via teleport
Oh

Why would some prelude to Arya killing him make things better? The issue is who gets to do it not how. Of course the how was dumb as fuck too.

>Finally he looked north. He saw the Wall shining like blue crystal, and his bastard brother Jon sleeping alone in a cold bed, his skin growing pale and hard as the memory of all warmth fled from him. And he looked past the Wall, past endless forests cloaked in snow, past the frozen shore and the great blue-white rivers of ice and the dead plains where nothing grew or lived. North and north and north he looked, to the curtain of light at the end of the world, and then beyond that curtain. He looked deep into the heart of winter, and then he cried out, afraid, and the heat of his tears burned on his cheeks.

>Now you know, the crow whispered as it sat on his shoulder. Now you know why you must live.

>"Why?" Bran said, not understanding, falling, falling.

>Because winter is coming.

Bran can see the past. He knows how this exact situation was handled throughout history by other people. He can also see what's happening near other godswood trees in real time. He's a powerful warg that has practice controlling both animals and humans. God knows what else he might be capable of with that.

But no. The showrunners have him sitting around giving everyone creepy looks all the time instead.

Maybe he tells them what they should do not him carrying it out. In every way the show seems to be falling short.

>Why would some prelude to Arya killing him make things better?
Same reason Ned fighting Dayne is based even if he couldn't win on his own and had to be saved, Ned still fucking fought Dayne. apparently Ned is fantastic at zoning.

>The issue is who gets to do it not how.
Which is why my post involved teamwork

It´s called character arc matte. Jon´s been facing the NK for 8 years. The NK recognized him the first time they meet. Jon was fucking resurrected to keep fighting it, was revealed to be the prince of fucking prophecy, the one that saves the world... His whole purpose is to protect the seven kingdoms from it. He is the only one that should have been able to even scratch it.
Arya´s arc on the other hand is to avenge her father and kill Cersei. She is not related to the Night jobber in the slightest. He´s never taken anything from her either, not to mention she is not special as in, there is no prophecy about her...

Toros should have given Jon his fire sword and Jon should have been the one to take him down. It´s as simple as that. Predictable yes but satisfactory all the same. That´s what build up means, you build a situation, a relationship or a situation till is reaches the highest possible point, AKA the climax. The NK death is anticlimatic because there is no relationship between him and Arya. That´s just bad writting.

NK is a retarded concept. How nice, how generous, that you only need to kill one guy to eliminate the threat

it doesn't matter who killed him, it's literally all the same

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I don't have any problems with Arya killing the Night King, provided it's like a "Darth Vader saves Luke from the Emperor" setup. Would've been nice to see Jon Snow duel him for a bit, or even Theon hold his own, dying of his wounds when Arya drops in for the save.

As-is, it plays like a cheat.

Why didn't HBO pay for Maise's plastic cirugy? The gooks can do facial bones easily.

Jesus Christ , you are insufferable.

Why are you mad?

I prefer the Karstarks.

>None of them could even reach NK. Let alone kill him.
Neither could Arya but it still happened in the show.

>who is Ghost?

Arya is a faceless man she can disappear behind anyone and nothing personnel kid

I understand why you would say this, but it's not true. The big problem is the way it was written, but Arya being the one to do it is still a problem in and of itself. If they insisted on it being Arya they needed to make it way better tho.

Thats not what faceless men do, and even if it were she never got any actual training on how to. She got hit by sticks and sold clams for a few weeks and then gave up on her training, and then becomes such a master assassin that she basically becomes a super powered anime character even though she completely ignored their teachings.

Jon or Bran. It's their arc. What the fuck was Bran's whole journey for? Something that Samwell could read in the library? What the fuck was Jon resurrected for? To be Dany's doormat? Oh, he brought her to the North. So the NK could steal her dragon an melt the wall.

Naa if they did it right it could be a reverse tower of joy where Ned is seen as a hero afterwards but really someone else stabbed Arthur dayne in the back where as with Jon he’s seen as the prophecied hero who’s the only one who can win but really someone else stabs the enemy in the back. That would have been subverting expectations but in a way that mirrored the tower of joy so it isn’t an out of left field pulled out their ass moment, we’ve been shown that the epic fights of legend sometimes aren’t as heroic as the legends build them to be. I hate how the show did it but here was a way to give arya the kill without it being as stupid as it was.

>arya tries her thing, has her neck snapped
>one of the white walker generals reaches to his face
>pulls it off
>pic related
>looks down at dying arya with the world's smuggest expression before finding some dead dude and stealing his face

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my nigga theon (rip)

Night King kills Arya(her story arc is over at this point anyway). Her blood falls on Longclaw as she falls lifeless into Jon's arms.

Viserion breathes blue flame on him, but he survives it, proving that he is both a Stark(ice) and Targaryen(fire). The flame lights Longclaw, turning it into Lightbringer, the only weapon that burns hot enough to kill the Night King.

bran should have wheeled his crippled faggot ass down to Queens Landing, get captured by Cersei and held hostage, Night King chases after his tasty boi pussy and ravages them all the end.

The Night King specifically wouldn’t fight Jon 1 v 1 because he saw Jon literally BTFO every Walker and Wight he came across.

If he hadn’t raised the wights to surround Jon, he would have lost in a 1 v 1 swordfight.

The only way to get CLOSE enough to the NK was through some sneaky assassin shit because he was too much of a pussy to fight based Aegon

You’re all just buttmad it was a girl who did it, if it was Arya switched with Jon who was a faceless assassin no one would give a fuck

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not bad, bit capeshit but I'll take it over what we got

And have a fucking white man save a helpless girl. Are you trying to say women are inferior?

Arya was trained to assassinate HUMANS. She's got nothing on a magical undead all-seeing all-knowing being.
It's like a rogue going up against a wizard with true-sight. Shit doesn't fly.
Only warriors with magical buffs (Jon's Targ blood) or other mages (Bran, 3ER) can best someone like that.

The Night King is literally just a white walker. Sam killed a white walker. Arya killing him is fine and makes sense

Probably any character that isn't an assassin. Makes more sense for a character like the Night King to die to a "hero" character.
Just imagine the Lich King in WoW dying to a backstabbing rogue instead of a Warrior of the Light.

>if she just...

The whole scenario would have had to be different. For starters they should have a battle using legitimate tactics and strategy. Perhaps have them beating back the undead from within the castle and seemingly winning, only for the night king to show up, destroy a portion of the castle wall on his dragon and raise the undead again. At this point you play it out similarly with the undead gaining the upperhand and the situation seeming hopeless. Have many main characters die. Daenerys and Jon would fight the Night King on their dragons and manage to knock him off. The immune to fire scene would happen and perhaps Jon would battle him on the ground, but find out he was also immune to Valyrian steel, and have to retreat. The night king would then start his march towards winterfell and to the godswood to kill bran. Jon and Daenerys would then realise the situation was lost and would have to rescue a group of the remaining survivors and escape on their dragons. Have Arya sacrifice herself to give the heroes time by fighting the Night King.

The rescued hero’s would then fly to the iron islands, that had been recently recaptured. Bran, one of the survivors, would warg into the past to find a way to defeat the NK. Perhaps even accidentally becoming the Night King by warging into the man turned into him.

The Night King would march onto Kings Landing. This time with an even bigger army.

In the future episodes, Cersei would realise her mistake in underestimating the threat of the undead. They’d be laying siege to kings landing and making their way to the red keep. Our hero’s would then show up for the final battle at the red keep. Have Cersei still try to kill them and have cleganebowl happen. Meanwhile have Daenerys get mortally wounded as the undead break into the throne room. Have her request than Jon mercy kill her. And this is when it would happen, he’d stab Daenerys with his sword and her dragon blood would set it alight. Lightbringer would be born.

Why did he need to be killed at that point?

This but replace Jon with Stannis stabbing Daenerys with the sword and getting Lightbringer.

Here’s an idea; DON’T SET UP THE FINALE IN A WAY WHERE HE CAN ONLY DIE VIA SOMEONE MOWING THROUGH HUNDREDS OF WIGHTS OR FUCKING TELEPORTATION
Christ, this apologist tract is so fucking stupid. If you’ve written yourself into a corner, you go back to the drawing board and rewrite it so you’re not in that corner. This is basic non hack concept. They had over a fucking year to make this, and have absolutely no excuse for letting it get so far that they had to roll with it.

some expectations were subverted, but in a good way

Theres a timeline where the actual story went like this. I wanna live in that timeline

I'd say any depiction of the night King where his death kills all white walkers / Wights was going to be a retarded anticlimax. Having Jon do it would be shit, just less shit than Arya though.

That sounds much better written, although it would go beyond the plot of the show. The show never set up the Azor Ahai and Lightbringer story.

Easy, re-write the whole fucking episode because it was dogshit from beginning to end

Team effort would be the best solution.

No one person kills the Night King but the whole group including Theon, Bran, Jaime, Brianne, Jon, Arya, Tormund, Sandor, Beric, Grey Worm, Dany, Jorah, Edd, and even Sam play a role in his demise, death by a thousand cuts style.

You can also kill off half of them during the climatic final battle, which is a much better way to finish it off. That way getting everyone here to this spot all at once feels worthwhile because Jorah's the guy that died killing that one white walker that was about to kill Theon so Theon could throw that spear at the nightking that Arya later uses with her stick training she got as a faceless man to distract the night king while bran wargs something to attack him, while jon does something, ect ect You set it up in such a way they all play an essential role to his demise that makes sense based on what that character is good at and has been developed as being good at over the course of the show thus far and then you can kill them after they play that role since now their one job is done.

Jon wielding a fire sword would still make sense thematically, and it's a cool visual

You know as soon as Bran got psi powers he could've arranged dragonglass weapons for 50 faceless men and sent them across the wall on an assassination mission. Boom, job done. Fuck this STUPID TV show.

>Night King does revive
>undead Stannis emerges from some cellar the Bolton's kept his body in after he died (Roose confirmed they found his dead body)
>Davos is forced into hiding
>Undead Stannis approaches his former servant
>Davos tries to reason with his former king
>Davos holds Shireen's stag as Stannis approaches him
>Davos plunges a dragonglass dagger into his heart
>Suddenly Stannis becomes the new coldhands
>Finds Melisandre and the Hound and stabs Melisandre with a sword to avenge his dead daughter
>The sword ignites and the Hound backs off
>right as Night King is about to kill Bran, Stannis plunges the flaming sword into the NK and they both die
>his last words are "I've done my duty"
>Davos sheds a tear and ending scene is him lighting the pyre of Azor Ahai

This episode was so long and what's worse is half the episode is in slow motion that really irritated me for some reason. The battle should have been fast paced to it's maximum to showcase the chaotic environment they were in and should have been not so one sided and give the defenders some victories to really keep the viewer grinding it's teeth.
As of killing the NK. I don't understand the Bran - NK connection at all, he just warged into ravens and that was it, until NK reached, as far as I understand.
Should have a serious team effort. Theon, Ghost, Jon, Arya, Bran vs NK. Each doing their best to take him down and Arya THEN getting the final blow.

Many more main characters should died and not spend 3 minutes showing some heroic moments. Just some stabby stab and the hero drops.

He revives them every time

That's why you make it so it's daenerys blood that sets the sword on fire. It would satisfy normies and those aware of the legend. It also fits with the theme of Targaryens trying to be reborn as dragons after death.

He can reanimate wights, he can't revive White Walkers