Why was season 2 so effing bad and why did season 3 start good just to decide to be stupid after 4 episodes or so on???...

Why was season 2 so effing bad and why did season 3 start good just to decide to be stupid after 4 episodes or so on?????

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Nic Pizzolato can't write good endings.

That is a fact even for season 1.

S1's end wasn't bad, it was just a bit underwhelming because of the insane lead up

Because Cary Fukunaga is based, season 2 wasn’t good for the writing lol. Series is shit besides s1

I meant even season 1 wasn’t good for the writing. It was all about the direction and performances

I was fairly disappointed in the end. Mainly the killer reveal (would have been absolutely fine if they had cut the grass cutting scene from earlier) and the fact Cohle turned optimist towards the end.

But it was a fairly minor didappointment. The season ramped up near perfectly right until the very end, in my mind. And even the ending was not bad in any kind of objective sense, just slightly not to my tastes in some aspects.

Season 1 is some of the best TV of all time, I guess because he plagarized a lot of the writing, particularly Cohle's nihilistic rants.

Fukunaga is clearly what made it so good, but the writing for season1 was in fact good. Marty and Rust's interactions were very entertaining and a perfect vehicle for developing the themes of the story.

Watch it, friendski

I don't know what they could have done with that ending exactly. You're right that it felt kind of off, not entirely off it does work as a redemption story for Rust centred around human connection, but not really in line with all the nihilist stuff that comes beforehand.

Do you think they should have gone full metaphysical memery? Or shown some kind of vast occult network?

it just doesn't work as an anthology, people got hooked specifically on Rust and Marty trying to solve a disturbing murder mystery with occult overtones against the backdrop of small town Louisiana in the 90s, there's no overarching formula to carry over to other seasons without those exact elements and characters without losing the essence of the show

No I would have preferred for Rust at the end of it to be utterly unchanged, perhaps even more nihilistic and broken and in fact for Marty to be the one who was shook and tainted, having stared into the face of darkness. They shouldn't have switched, it should just have been Marty finally getting to that place Rust was, or somewhere approaching it.

I don't think it needs to leave off with a "there's more of them out there" twist or anything like this, I feel that would be quite cheap but yeah one final epic nihilistic/metaphysical rant from Cohle as the camera fades out centered on the night sky/stars and a silent Marty, finally unable to contest with or dispute Cohle's worldview and ranting.

All they have now is the emptiness and the memories of the horrors they've encountered. They simply need a new monster to fill the void. It's their new vice/addiction/cope/crutch. Hunting down monsters and bringing them to justice, not out of a duty to goodness or desire to change the world, but simply because it's the only thing that can still get their pulses going, still get them out of bed each morning/night.

They solved the case, they stopped thr killers but it cost them their souls.

sort of like Se7en. I guess they didn't have the balls to do that, you're right it might have been a powerful ending

s3 is shit but the stir some shit up with me is probably pizza's most emotional scene he ever wrote
of course the shit they'd stir up is asking old people information for about ten minutes before dealing with a black man who yells punish me

Eh they probably had a few endings planned including one or both of them dying or maybe even the killers getting away etc. Maybe they just felt an ending like this was overkill, maybe they wanted, I dunno, I do see what they were going for with Rust and Marty kind of swapping at the end but it just felt gimmicky and forced to me.

The ending I suggested would really have set up a season 2 nicely as well. And it could continue to chart Marty's descent into depression and becoming a fucking joyless, feelless void like Cohle, watching him slowly lose the ability to connect with his family, or spend time around them at all, as well as just enjoy normal life and his old comforts and haunts.

He still would try to rebutt Cohle from time to time but you'd slowly hear the energy/sincerity behind those attempts to offer optimism and positivty fade and fade until it became more of a routine for him than anything, the next case would be the main problem. How do you top Satanic mystical cult child fuckers/killers really in terms of pure unadulterated evil and obscenity, as well as intrigue? This was always going to be a problem even if they did keep everything else intact from season 1, I feel like they would need to do the exact same type of crimes and just make it more sadistic or malicious or whatever, but how without veering towards overkill and cringe...

Problem is the first season is so close to perfect TV you really cannot change a lot without ruining it, but if you don't change it, people complain it's repetitive, so I see why they decided to just leave it and go full anthology but it just did not pan out at all for them, obviously, and not retaining Fukanaga was a huge issue as well.

But yeah they could easily have squeezed a second and third season out of Cohle and Marty's chemistry alone before it became too repetitive, I think. And they should have done this, just each season a new serial killer. A different location, different motives and insanities and also charting the overall arc of Marty being utterly absorbed into Rust's world and the further breakdown of his family and personal life.

>season 1
>bad ending

The ending was solid. It felt like the beginning of an amazing writter and an amazing series. Too bad Pizza had other plans and ditched it the pedo ring story entirely.

When HBO threatend him to get his shit together he gave everyone an even bigger middle finger in season 3 with little red harrings pointing towards season 1 which ultimatly went nowhere. Pizza can go fuck himself.

But season 1 was gold.

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Is S3 worth my time? Is it at least on par or better than S2?

Bump

He can't write in general, it rumored he ripped Rust's edgy dialogue from horror writer.

I thought that was confirmed?

I'm on S3 E6, and I think it's very good. I think people here must not like it cause muh nigger main character, but the casting and acting is great. Dorff and Ali have great chemistry and the entertainment is there at least through 6 episodes, I can't rate the ending yet, but I thought S1 ending was poor.

Season 2 was kino you pretentious pleb
I agree about season 3 being lackluster though

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It's got some good performances. Stephen Dorff was especially good. Just don't bother getting invested in the actual mystery at all, the way they wrap things up is terrible. The last episode is worse than the entirety of season 2.

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This.

i finished season 1 skipped season 2 and am on episode 5 of season 3. is it even worth finishing? I'm not that interested

S3 > S2 > S1

stop saying what you wish happened in any of the seasons. if you had any talent at all you wouldnt be a Yea Forums tv critic

the acting is great and the characters are pretty decent. the murder plotline just refuses to go anywhere interesting. if you don't get your expectations up for a big, satisfying payoff, you should enjoy it.

>plotline
>big, satisfying payoff

>literary fiction

>Only on E6
Prepare to be underwhelmed. Ali was pretty good as the lead, especially as Alzheimers old man, and has some memeable lines. The problem is with Pizza's ending. He is able to write memorable characters with great dialogue, but his plots are very weak. Season 2 being the best example of great characters and batshit retarded plot that resolves with diabolous ex machina.