Write up a strong female character that isn't a Mary Sue.
Write up a strong female character that isn't a Mary Sue
Kayden Martin
Christian Reed
Colton Cooper
>Strong female character
Cooper Gutierrez
Lincoln Richardson
she fucks and sucks (formerly feeds on seed)
Jackson Rodriguez
>>dies, so not a mary sue
>> lives in feces
>> stronk lady
Aiden Hill
Michael Adams
FMA is full of them.
Gabriel Price
fuck my ass?
Ayden Evans
Fucking based
Justin Murphy
>
Blake Garcia
Julian Cook
Michael Reyes
Thomas Barnes
best female character of 2019
William Hill
This?
Oliver Miller
Nausicaa is the absolute definition of a mary sue
Blake Scott
An elderly decrepit woman (the protagonist) engages in conversation with a lost child in transit to a new planet and starts to recount her younger days when she served in the old galactic empire
It's my SW fanfic.
Isaiah Lee
Mallory Kane
Christian King
Owen Long
a 14yr old prostitute
the end
Luke Parker
Beatrix Kiddo
Wyatt Bell
Dylan Rodriguez
>anime
|Lmfao.
Noah Perez
>Full of them
Most of them are just guys in skirts
Nolan Scott
Lisa
Ryan Rogers
Gavin Hall
Start with Rey in TFA.
- Make the scene where she helps fix the falcon less obnoxious and not 1-upping Han Solo.
- Finn saves Rey from the Rathtars.
- She resists Kylo's mind probe just like the original
- Tries to do the mind trick on the stormtroopers, but she's clumsy and it backfires (either they go crazy or turn into vegetables or something, allowing her to escape but also clearly establishing that she is not in control of her newfound power).
- Han and Leia don't treat her like Mary Sue
- She barely holds her own in the lightsaber fight with Kylo, until the earthquake happens but doesn't defeat him.
And there you go. This is about 65%-75% of a fix. She still doesn't have proper goals or motivations, but doing that would probably require some more significant changes that would take too long to explain in one post.
Ayden Watson
Zoe the fucking cat
Elijah Adams
Princess Leia.
Jacob Kelly
>Detransitioned woman in her late 20s.
>Ruined her body chemistry with testosterone and had a double mastectomy.
>Bought into all the genderthink when she was a dumb kid
>Never got to make peace with her mother who tried to stop her from transitioning years ago.
>momwasright.mp3
>Moves back home a broken failure.
>She thinks her life is over
>Wants revenge
>Trainingmontage.zip
>Hunts trannies at night with a Browning automatic rifle
>An Ex-Boy Named Sue Vol. 1
Elijah Moore
funnily enough Danny from GoT qualifies
Adrian King
I think Alita is an interesting example because she is slightly overpowered in the first few fights, but not by too much and that one bad guy gets an upgrade and almost kills her. Once she picks up that martian body upgrade the other cyborgs just aren't a threat anymore. At least not to her anyway, they can kill her loved ones just fine. It kinda proves that it's not just strength or abilities that make a character a Sue.
Grayson Kelly
men pretending to be little girls dont count
Nathan Martinez
The only strong women are those written as men, and then sex swapped. Women aren't strong creatures IRL.
Aiden Hall
any female character from batman gets tortured or raped regularly and still kick asses.
Oliver Jackson
I've got a whole series planned out.
Ethan Turner
Funnily, book Dany is still a Mary Sue, but show Dany isn't. One thing Dumb and Dumber have done right.
Cameron Richardson
>gets knocked out by kylo first encounter
>only able to deafete him after he's been shot by a high powered bowcaster and fought finn
>gets lucky with the exploding lightsaber on snokes ship
>flees ren at the end of last jedi.
Angel Stewart
Bentley Morgan
Avatar last airbender
Just any of the females there
Jacob Gutierrez
She was perfect before her new leaf. Then she bacame generic waifu #5.
Caleb Thomas
Not why she's a Mary Sue. Everyone worships the ground she walks on and treats her as special for no reason. Mary Sue's aren't cringe because they're overpowered, though that factors into it. Mary Sues are considered "bad" because they're never challenged and never have to genuinely struggle to overcome anything. Whether other characters like them or not is entirely dependent on the roles those characters play in the story, not any sort of organic reaction to their character or actions.
Kevin Barnes
autistic retard girl who isn't ugly and has mind powers that can make living creatures explode
her nemesis would be a robot or AI
William Williams
for me a "strong" character means a character with an interesting, understandable personality, with discernible traits, motivations, character flaws etc. what many people think it means is someone who kills a lot of bad guys.
Austin Wright
Go on...
Aiden Edwards
I like Sansha and Brienne even if everyone here hates them
Also Hilda from LoGH is a skilled politician only loosing to Oberstein
Austin Green
just write a movie that doesnt suck
draft a screenplay that doesnt destory all hopes and dreams of your future children
try to tell a story without relying on the sublime meloncholic feeling of nostalgia that will never come by again in your lifetime.
just try not to create complete and utter shit.
Jordan Gutierrez
give her training
give her flaws
give her something to overcome and don't give her "everybody like her in 1 s treatment"
Gavin Foster
fpbp
Alexander Nguyen
What does "fpbp" mean? Is this some kind of new incelspeak lingo?
Dominic Rivera
>fpbp
first post best post
took me 5s
Daniel Perry
>spoonfeeding the tourist
Justin Cruz
I don’t wanna call this bait since I feel it’s partially true but can anyone elaborate on how to make a strong female that still feels female without shitting on her agency as a character? Like in my mind I thought what Sansa said about her past making her stronger yet I’m seeing a shit tone of Twitter folk say that she was always capable and that making it out to be the “rape” that took her down this path negates all that. Yet I know I’m my own life that as a man many of my worst days have made me stronger and more understanding. Is Captain Marvel really what women want in female agency?
Christopher Flores
>no anti-antisemitism
>no homophobia
>no ableism
>no racism
You're not fooling anybody, you're dull edge shows.
Though i am surprised a literally retard black lesbian 56%er TERF would actually post here.
Zachary Sullivan
>caring about Twitter opinion
Nolan Nelson
Look at Julie Andrews' character in The Sound of Music. Strong and wise with children and brave enough to defy the overly strict authoritarian father(a navy Captain) for the good of said children. Yet she's also vulnerable and female and falls in love with the Captain.
Lincoln Ramirez
Also note how the climax of the movie involves the couple (Captain and Maria, now married) leading their family together to escape the Nazis, each playing a complementary role.
Sebastian Long
Bentley Green
Gamora is a good example too
Considered the most dangerous woman of the Galaxy
And yet she struggles when th e enemy is really dangerous
She have doubts about his choices and never have the right answer for everything
Things like her relationship with her dad (she might hate hin,but she still cries when she "killed" hin) and sister do wonders for a character and is way better than "smug indepent Hero that always right" shit in OP pic
Chase Green
Here you go
Gavin Nelson
A girl who fucks you to learn all your secrets becomes entangled in an abstract avant-garde real life theatre piece where the actors are pretending to be actors pretending to be actors pretending to have secrets and she has to fuck her way out of the mess to figure out who is an actor and who is real in her life.
Charles White
based jones
Levi Young
As a general rule of thumb, men write better characters than women, be the characters male or female.
Prove me wrong.
Eli Ortiz
James Cameron has been giving us strong female characters for three decades.
Benjamin Roberts
Name one of Suki's faults.
Ryder Watson
Katara from TLA with her arrogance and mommy issues and overbearing attitude occasionally alienating her friends and her inability to let go of her murderous rage until the last possible second nearly costing her her humanity and occasionally getting trounced in fights even against non benders or equally matched opponents
Justin Nelson
Hela unironically.
Lincoln Gomez
1. is female
2. willing to fuck a incel
3. titties so big they block her neck
Landon Nelson
His only strong characters are from sequels of movies done by others. All his originals are bland useless vaginas spending whole movie asking to put dick in them.
Easton Jones
I don't need to. Robert Jordan did already. Dozens of them, in the Wheel of Time series.
Adrian White
>retarded boomer
>thinks all movies, even the, action hero ones, need to conform to his idea and level of realism disregard the the natural levels inherent their respective film genres
>only mentions bell curves when they support his opinions
The problem isn't just with how you write a strong woman, it's also with how many, if any, do you actually need in your and also how strong do they need to be?
Personally i think it's good to have a diverse group of women who contrast with one another their own strengths and flaws.
Isaac Torres
I really like this movie.
Cooper Thompson
This is true.
>Write a character as a man, then change the name and focus on their feet.
Tada, a girl
Elijah Diaz
and mallory knox
Justin Rivera
lurk more or gtfo
Dominic Torres
I'd watch that
Liam Moore
Female characters don’t have to be written as badasses to be strong female characters.
Galadriel from LOTR is a good example of this
Wyatt Jones
Incorrect. Rose is a strong character. Molly Brown is a strong character, and whatserface from The Abyss is also a strong character.
Luke Wood
Protagonist of You're Next I guess.
Jeremiah Nelson
This scene aged like wine.
Carter Myers
Jury's still out on if Carol Danvers is a Mary Sue or not. She displays a tendecy to leap into action without consideration of anything else which has worked out for her so far because she's extremely powerful. If she runs into Celestials or Eternals in Captain Marvel 2, she may have to change.
Pic related is not a Mary Sue.
Josiah Rivera
ah-bloo-bloo
>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people
Angel Gutierrez
Based. Why do so many people think strong character = physically powerful?
Hudson Adams
Elizabeth Jennings.
Sebastian Powell
Matthew Cooper
thats a porn star isn't it
Landon Long
She ended up being my favorite character by the end. Don is a narcissist, Pete is a slimeball, Joan is a generic queen bitch, and Roger falls into the classic old guy trap of thinking his hot young mistresses love him,
Parker Bailey
Fucking /thread
Joseph Kelly
the only reason you care about this shit is because its loli
have sex
Aaron Green
seething fungus toe Larson fan
Oliver Morales
No that's a sjw who writes articles for the "themarysue.com" and other blue pilled websites.
She recently wrote an article about the GOT episode were dany's slave friend got beheaded.
She was seething through out the whole article. >
Blake Myers
>it's diverse fan group
That one typo bothers me to no end. Also, I haven't seen a single episode of GoT. What exactly did the writers do to "screw over" the female characters?
Tyler Nguyen
>Has set personality traits which effects her decisions
>Struggling with something in their life, perhaps attempting to get over existentialism, get over something that happened in the past, or get past a current problem which is actively impeding her lifes progress.
>Has a reason to want to continue living, or perhaps a reason to not want to live anymore
Pic related, ,, and are decent examples of this. Tomboys tend to be the best to write for a "strong woman", because their more masculine tendencies tend to give them goals and ambitions, instead of wanting to be servantile to a patriarchal figure or being a marie sue. Sues are not human, they have no ambitions, no struggle, no goals, but are for some reason put in interesting situations that would only ever happen if they had the previously mentioned things. This is why marie sues are so jarring and why people tell you to just right a man and make them a woman.
Kevin Richardson
Some exilled royalty called Dany married a guy who had a black/female slave translator, they become friends she takes power and frees her.
Now the ex-slave got decapitated.
Logan Lewis
Lurk more or go back fag
Liam Rodriguez
the show has gone full feminism from S6 on. now the writers are scrambling to get back on track with GRRM's version on at least the major plot points...roughly...which means less feminism which is pissing off sjws like her because they've grown accustomed to the feminism shit
Asher Wood
This is true but he did also put a lot of them in bondage, have them spank eachother and gave the protagonist three wives. I love WoT.
William Myers
Brandon Howard
Can't argue with you.
Jayden Smith
Lara.
Overcomes her families affluenza by striking out on her own to recover dusty old relics that the people of old just left lying around. Doesn't need no man to buy her fancy gold jewellery - she just goes out and nicks it herself. She's self made, educated, trained in mind and body. She isn't a pretty princess, being entirely coldly practical and rather bloody minded - almost to the point of being a sociopath.
Oliver Flores
>Ex-Boy Named Sue Vol. 1
>Not calling it TERF Wars
Chase Moore
Scarlet Witch.
Henry Harris
> Sarah Connor
> Ellen Ripley
> Clarice Stirling
> Nikita
> Buffy Summers
> Maggie Fitzgerald
> Lori Quaid
> Lara Croft
> Catherine Tramell
> Kusanagi Motoko
> Evey
Could go on...
Christian Davis
Hunter Scott
Why was Daisy so naughty lads?
Leo Edwards
It's amazing how you can make things like Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Porco Rosso, and STILL be able to shit out abominations like Ponyo.
Xavier Thomas
Indeed.
Jace Green
>Have her come off as a naive bitch
>Give her a goal
>Give her a team with members having niche talents and prejudices
>Give her team-based training
>Make her responsible for someone's suffering or death, like a mentor or potential romantic interest
>Have her grow wiser as a person throughout the journey
Basically, just make her human. Wow, it's so fucking easy
Hollywood movies at this point are just propaganda flicks
Chase Cook
>rey is a desert scrap merchant
>she is captured by the first order for aiding finn
>she manages to escape on an escape pod due to a battle between the first order and resistance
>she finds leia, leia can feel that rey is force sensitive
>the droid has the map
>leia sends rey to luke
>rey spends more than 2 days getting trained
>she becomes an average jedi
>she fights and loses to kylo ren; a below-average dark jedi; but manages to escape with her life
>she spends more time alone hiding from the war, concentrating on learning more about the force
>she manages to gain the strength to engage kylo again; manages to beat him
there done - was that so hard disney
Jose James
FMA actually pulled off many honest female characters. Not one is a Mary Sue, and most of their personalities are far from 2d.
Angel Morales
Because many people are idiots.
Alexander Watson
>Write a man
>Take away reason and moral compass
>Replace the word he with her
Done
Kevin Price
she knows what casting couch directors like
Robert Thompson
The problem is that most main characters fall inder the category of mary sue.
The real issue is that most female MCs are of the same level of mary sueness of Superman. You know, perfect leople who do no wrong, never get hurt, always win out of nowhere and so on.
So basically write a female who wins in the end, but has struggles and flaws along the way, and plays somewhat by the same rules as every other character.
Levi Watson
Because that man understood women. He knows that they are fucking insane and the ones he put through that came out better off for the experience.
Jeremiah Ward
She´s not a Mary Sue shes just and INFJ,people like her because shes willing to put her life on the line as many times as it takes to get shit done,isnt afraid of dirty and unfeminine things such as hard labour and because she overall wants the best for people,but in order to reach her goals she does get shot and the like several times,and she needs plenty of people to be of any use(there are like 6 times in the movie alone in which she would have died if someone hadnt saved her),and characters that oppose her arent necessarily portrayed as bad,too
Gabriel Clark
Maka Albarn,Nikaido,all women in the Akira manga,Lady Eboshi and Miki Makimura(in the manga,bitch is ok with throwing molotovs at people at the verge of her potential death and fighting gansters twice her size,both unarmed and to the death with a knife)are godly examples
Xavier Powell
Oh ray is so relatable so interesting STRONG character.
Kys fag
Landon Wilson
the only difference between beatrix and a mary sue is that most mary sues have the barest semblance of a personality. beatrix has none
Levi Davis
Wrong
Jacob Collins
why are you describing my wife?
Luis Murphy
Rey should be naked
Carter Butler
She even had a black best girlfriend, her villain is a dumb dyke and her hero is a female teacher
and it's a good movie directed by danny devito
Wyatt Gonzalez
need an attractive actress for that to work
Matthew Young
done
Grayson Sullivan
Too bad the story is dog shit
Benjamin King
Still a bigger Mary Sue (a literal prophesied messiah) than Rey
Joseph Cook
/thread
Michael Hernandez
do you know what a mary sue is
Joseph Sanders
Scarlet Witch.
Jack Hill
I think what annoys me about Rey is that the material is there to write a decent character, but they decided to go for a blank slate to appeal to the young adult crowd.
Take her background for starters. In contrast to Anakin and Luke, Rey was abandoned and whatever authority figures she knew were probably negligent and unfriendly. This should result in someone with abandonment issues (mirroring Anakin), along with a more cautious and cynical attitude (this will come into play later in the post). Furthermore, as a female human living alone, she likely is often at a frequent physical disadvantage, teaching her the importance of planning and fighting smart/dirty to compensate. However, as seen with BB-8, it would be clear that despite her rough exterior, Rey would have a heart of gold deep down, establishing her as an ultimately heroic character.
Adrian Murphy
2/2
The cynical attitude would be a great way to justify her quick rapport with Han, since he would notice that they're basically birds of a feather. It would also allow her to set herself apart from Luke and Anakin, who were more idealistic at the start of their stories. In addition, the whole pragmatic planner/fighter trait would also add to her relationship with a smuggler famous for shooting first.
I'd even have these traits play into her final battle at the end of the movie. Kylo Ren is injured but the superior technical combatant (on top of still being a fairly decent sized guy). Rey thus has to fight smart, keeping her distance and exploiting her opponent's injuries and exhaustion to wear him down. Then, despite all that, a Kylo Ren who is basically running on fumes finally has her at his mercy. Like in the actual movie, Rey calls upon the Force, but unlike the movie where she turns the fight around, it allows her to make the one move that allows her to quickly surprise Kylo and end the fight. He's stunned but in no shape to follow up (without necessarily being completely helpless, thus allowing him to maintain some dignity) when the planet starts cracking apart.
Noah Wright
Xavier Thompson
She should lose to Kylo. Planning and fighting smart is important, but it would be more interesting for her development if she finds that those traits aren't always enough. This new opponent has come along which needs not only new skills to combat, but also a completely different mindset. As such, it would be interesting if they make her character unruly and childish in the way a lot of people who had poor parenting are, but the loss makes her mature and take things seriously.
If she wins, then there's really very little point for her to do anything, least of all grow. The series itself encountered this problem with her too, where it now feels like her motivations are completely artificial and just convenient for whatever direction they want to go.
Dominic James
Unironically.
Landon Cook
Also unironically.
Ryan Clark
Robert Torres
master of deception and a survivor
Hudson Bennett
Olenna
Carson Cooper
A strong female character should be able to utilise some kind of advantage to overcome the weaknesses of stature and frame.
Picture Rey, but based on a planet controlled by dark-side force users, desperately trying to get off her planet through the only means available to her - joining the nu-Sith/Knights of Ren. Already, we have a motivation: get out of a shithole planet where she would otherwise be doomed to work as a subsistance farmer/scavenger...
Instead of being really good with the Force, we show strength of character as she makes her way through the darwinist sith ecosystem as an underdog. Maybe she does something clever with force telekinesis, lures opponents into traps, sabotages their lightsabers, ambushes them. Maybe she uses her scavenging skills to make a drone. Certainly, she doesn't show up like movie-hermione and do everything better than everything. Also, it would be good to make sure that others in the academy have plots of their own, that they aren't just purely reacting to Rey. They don't know she's the center of the universe.
At the end, she gets to graduate to being a Knight of Ren or whatever, get a ship and go out to the galaxy, where she realises how much less stressful it is to make friends, not allies of convenience. Maybe she gets jilted by Kylo, who she has a crush on and pursues revenge against the First Order.
Easton Ramirez
Tons in anime
Thomas Rivera
Yeah. Naussica is a YA-tier preachy Mary Sue.
Christopher Sanchez
Sarah Connor. Terminator 2 has a perfect end so I've never watched another Terminator film or show, I'm sure they've fucked her up since then; but in the first two films she's great.
Evan Ortiz
unironcally better than anything Star Wars has done since 1980
Cooper Thomas
Kira from DS9
I'm still amazed she agreed to do this scene.
Jackson Torres
Pic 100% unrelated. This hotheaded bitch constantly gets her ass kicked then gets captured and brainwashed.
Landon Nguyen
Yea Forums here
Have you tried magical girls?
Ryan Sanders
Capeshit plebs on this board don't know who this is.
Jace Stewart
Lol no.
Manga Alita is ok tho
Jose Mitchell
A woman who gets enslaved in a grim dark medieval world at childhood. Has to go through work, sex abuse and torture but is constantly reminded of her father/mother/older sibling/{insert role model} reminding her of how she must always keep going and to value herself, not matter how tough things get.
She eventually has to deal with a jealous noble woman who finds out her husband has impregnated our protagonist. She tries to get help, but nobody gives a shit about slave girls; so her baby is taken away when it is born.
She goes on a revenge quest by secretly rallying her fellow slaves and playing the politics game until she is able to stage a revolt.
Despite all the loss they suffer, they’re ultimately successful. Everyone celebrates but our protagonist is shaken by her ordeal. But just as her role model told her growing up, she must persevere and so she does. The end
Isaiah Williams
Keep your shitty fanfictions to yourself trash
Hunter Peterson
>contribute to thread
>user gets ass blasted
Lol Epic
Cameron Smith
Absolutely patrician.
Connor Butler
Lucas Adams
Not a lead though
Lincoln Allen
>WOMAN DID THING SHE MARY SUE
i hate the over feminist shit too but you guys have been memed within an inch of your lives
Oliver Jenkins
>>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people
Maybe to Americans
Gabriel Brooks
worn baby for never shoes sold sale
Liam Rivera
Ryder Parker
She would be at home in Dunwich
Charles Diaz
>The real issue is that most female MCs are of the same level of mary sueness of Superman. You know, perfect leople who do no wrong, never get hurt, always win out of nowhere and so on.
Aspirational =/= mary sue
Colton Hughes
see
Elijah Jackson
then you don't know
Carter Brooks
God, I'm so glad they left the egg impregnation scene out of that film.
It would of broken me to see her die in such a way.
No wonder Micheal fastbender was so odd after that film for a while.
Lincoln Scott
literally just write a good character that also happens to be female, people get so caught up with the female part of "strong female character" they forget the other two of three
what makes a strong character in general?
>goals that they wish to attain
>something they must struggle against to attain those goals, whether it be external, internal, or both
>a balance of strengths and flaws, whether mental, physical, emotional, etc
>development from a weaker status to a stronger status over the course of the story
>thematic connection to the story as a whole
>a good backstory, or a good reason not to reveal the backstory
>for visual media, good design; silhouette, attire, looks that fit the character, etc
>some sort of unique factor that makes them interesting, or at least not a bore to read about/watch
there are no special ingredients separate to a strong FEMALE character, just shifts in the fundamentals, specifically gender - the reason why this is done wrong so many times is because most people, even hollywood writers, are just dog shit at writing and forgot the basics of creative writing that they teach you in 5th to 8th grade
Leo Roberts
Unironically shit tier character (as portrayed in the movie).
And a by the numbers Mary Sue.
Born perfect. Better than everyone. Constant asspulls. Everyone like her. She is always right, even when she is wrong. Overpowers everyone easly. Never needs to solve problems with brain. Ecc ecc
Joshua Wright
Satsuki would be more pertinent
Hunter Lopez
It is clear that there has been put a lot of effort into this chart, but the very first question is a major problem for it. What exactly is meant by "carry her own story"?
Brayden Jenkins
Every female main character in The Last Airbender was a very well developed character.
Leo Collins
Write it for a guy then make it a girl
Nicholas Flores
Being an hothead who fucks up because of this is a fairly decent character flaw
Michael Martin
isnt that every protagonist in video games
i mean most of them right
Nathaniel White
What? How?
Thomas Carter
Is Gomorra international?
Owen Clark
I hate the "empowered through abuse" trope
Thomas Nelson
i'd like to also add in addendum, if you're specifically trying to make a heroic character that is female, stop fucking trying to make them heroic relative to how much better they are than men; a hero is one that takes the most base, romantic, sought after, defined traits of their kind and acts as an exemplar of those traits
general male heroic traits in movies/myth/epics:
>physically strong
>brave
>honorable
>honest
>a good leader
>fights or aspires for a purpose higher than himself
>has something precious to lose, or precious to gain/regain, which acts as a source of immitigable inspiration
want to make a heroic female character? take base, romantic, sought after, defined traits of the female kind:
>empathetic
>wise
>feminine but not as to be meager or weak
>matriarchal in some cases
>emotionally strong
>strengthens her familial, marital, or communal status and in doing so strengthens herself
>beautiful - though this does not have to mean in terms of looks, but could mean graceful, or doing things in good form
all of these traits are still interchangeable with tweaking between male and female heroes
Grayson Brown
Because strong literally means physically powerful
Hudson Morales
Pretty much every female character in any comedic or detective BBC miniseries.
Joshua Fisher
>Never needs to solve problems with brain
True, she solves the main problem with her heart, thanks to a man
Brayden Reed
I actually find most of the main 5 questions flawed/nebuolus
Adam Fisher
Thomas Hughes
Create and write a character to be a dude without a romantic plot up until the last moment then swap genders
Thank me later disney execs
Brody Hughes
actually easy
Isaac Williams
Joseph Carter
It's too bad nobody in the mainstream ever brought up how ahead of his time Romero was with his casting choices in the original trilogy. He was putting blacks and women in lead roles WAY before it was cool to do so, and they weren't written to be walking stereotypes, or be all about "MUH RACISM" or "MUH SEXISM".
Henry King
Shitty vg characters maybe, but I don't think it's a fair comparison.
Wyatt Reed
Adrian Lewis
That's because the Manga is made by a woman, and not a group of men trying to decide what women want to get their dollars.
Jeremiah White
Is that true? GRRM has known how he wants to end the series the entire time, and just doesn't know how to get himself there?
Julian Foster
Brainlet opinion. Do yourself a favor and check a dictionary.
Xavier Lewis
Go back 10 years, many strong females characters were good characters.
Camden Ross
FIRST POST FUCKING BEST POST
/THREAD
DISNEY BTFO
John Jackson
>
Xavier King
>Learned to metalbend out of fucking nowhere while imprisoned in a matter of hours, while countless of free and more enlightened earhbenders never made the cut
>Male had to beg her to come with him, she rejected him, then saved him, then assented after establishing she was better
>Learned Earth ending from literal animals, instead of, I dunno, getting stomped?
>Blindness only ever gimping as a joke, never stops her from being "oh so kewl", and in fact gives her bullshit abilities because "muh blind swordsman lmao"
Yeah, no.
Zachary Reed
This and pic related are best examples.
Nathan Allen
She's not strong, she's just an angry jobber
Michael Russell
>Write up a strong female character that isn't a Mary Sue.
Already done.
Brandon Gonzalez
This is a good one.
Her strength is mostly mental/emotional and it's not defined by being better than a man (Hannibal) but just being able to survive against him and use him in a way others can't.
Brayden Cox
That just sounds like you being pissy and not understanding what a mary-sue is or how powerlevels in the Avatar canon work.
Anthony Harris
Most decent RPGs will let you be a huge asshole that is loathed by everyone if you want
Evan Lewis
Luv from 2049
Adrian Ross
That sounds like a fangirl trying to justify her Mary Sue without actually providing any counter-arguments
Sebastian Hernandez
I'm pretty sure Ripley in alien movies is a regular movie hero but not a mary sue
Sebastian Roberts
yeah, "heart". Nuking your enemy with an energy ray is solving a problem with heart/love.
Fucking hated that movie
Cooper Torres
>thanks to a man
he is the hero in the movie. The main chick is nothing but an obstacle to him and his quest to stop the war (aside saving him from drowning in the beginning).
Ryder Anderson
Jason Cooper
Unironically good posts.
Lucas Martin
I like her. For some reason she is frequently omitted in these kind of discussions
Benjamin Young
No it's because she was good at what she did.
Being a female does non make you more competent than a man at writing female characters. Being a good writer (male or female) does.
James Barnes
good choice
Logan Roberts
Strong female character = Mary Sue. Search your feelings, you know it to be true no matter how pictures of women that won't actually be considered "strong female characters" by those in charge of determining what newspeak words mean you post.
Also, most female characters posted as positive examples in this thread are men with boobs.
Eli Cook
I agree, but most RPGs aren't decent
Christopher Thompson
Is Mikasa a mary sue?
Dylan Rivera
>arguments
You assume the metalbending came out of nowhere when it's a demonstrable function of the way her entire powerset utilizes her blindness. Just because she solved the puzzle at an opportune moment doesn't mean it wasn't an answer she'd been studying toward literally her entire life.
>some sort of MISANDRY garbage
I thought you had arguments?
>learned earthbending blah blah blah
Yeah. She learned earthbending from something that could also earthbend. Like every other earthbender on the fictional planet. It's literally established that the first earthbenders learned from badgermoles. Please keep reaching crybaby.
>blindness isn't a disability
Because having a blind main character in an action show about fist fighting with magic powers actually be handicapped by their blindness would be boring as fuck. And again, based on her powerset it's not even a far reach to say "being good at earthbending basically nullifies blindness". Also she's shown to be at a disadvantage when she can't rely on her earthbending to "see".
You literally don't know what a mary-sue is. Get better arguments.
Grayson Edwards
>alien was written with genre neutral characters where every character could be either male or female
>the one female that's not a mary sue was never written to be a female
Makes sense
Lincoln Richardson
Caleb Perez
Not really. She's autistically good at fighting, sure, but she gets led around by the nose by Eren.
Aaron Allen
>She's autistically good at fighting
Why is this kind of anime so cringe
Hunter Morris
>just write a man with boobs, lmao
How many books written by women for women you've read?
>goals that they wish to attain
>something they must struggle against to attain those goals, whether it be external, internal, or both
>thematic connection to the story as a whole
Also, nothing else is ever necessary if you write an adventure story.
Xavier Russell
>mothra looks like that
why tho?
Jason Walker
i want to fuck mothra.
Tyler Edwards
Because they wanted something that looked like it could feasibly got toe-to-toe with giant radioactive dragons, and not look like a parade float.
Lincoln Nelson
tho the actor is based af
Jackson Kelly
>learning shit out of nowhere or with minimal training
That's a problem with literally every major character in Avatar, not just Toph.
Zachary Perez
There has never been a good book written by women for women.
Dylan Jones
>Just because she solved the puzzle at an opportune moment
The fact she solved the puzzle at all is what I'm referring to, let alone solving it at such an opportune moment.
>muh misandry is no argument
Whoa, you nullified my point with a buzzword. Do I hear everyone clapping?
>She learned earthbending from something that could also earthbend
She learned without even seeing, somehow. Kicked the ground, and that turned into Earth ending with correct form because... they liked her because she was blind? Cough*asspull*Cough.
Not to mention that a kid interacting with animals established to not necessarily be friendly unless you know some good music without getting killed by said animals...?
>would be boring as fuck
Yes, Sokka being an actually normal guy was SO boring, right?
>based on her powerset it's not even a far reach to say "being good at earthbending basically nullifies blindness"
Based on his powerset and disability, Zuko should've been a master tattoo artist.
>she's shown to be at a disadvantage when she can't rely on her earthbending to "see"
Point, though that only happened once when she had to cross on ice, which was already a bad place for an earthbender to be.
>You literally don't know what a mary-sue
Everyone likes her despite how trashy her personality and actions are? Check.
Animals twittering at the sight of her? See above.
Asspull powers to keep her an unbeatable badass whatever it takes? Check.
Gavin Sullivan
Her teachers were blind molerats that she somehow observed through... nothing, and learned how to see through the earth from... how again?
Logan Cox
But that's what moths look like IRL - cute, fuzzy and colorful.
Brayden Bell
No I know. She’s better than everyone, loved from the beginning by all the good characters, overpowers and kills multiple armoured men twice her weight easily, saves the world as a prophesied messiah, more intelligent than anyone in her kingdom, and also has bullshit animal calming powers. Fanfiction tier MC.
The whole story is based around how completely perfect and right she is and how completely wrong the bad people are. Complete Mary Sue. Kushana is leagues better.
Thomas Rivera
>Everyone likes her despite how trashy her personality and actions are?
False.
>Animals twittering at the sight of her?
That's not even a function of a mary Sue that's also not fulfilled by "not being killed by fucking mole monsters".
>Asspull powers to keep her an unbeatable badass whatever it takes?
Just because you don't like it or find it logical does not constitute an asspull. I'm sorry for your retardation.
William Murphy
>Just because you don't like it or find it logical does not constitute an asspull
How the hell is someone supposed to decide something is an asspull if finding it illogical doesn't count?
Jayden Scott
Yeah, but even Toho has done drastic redesigns, so it's not like there's not a precedent for this.
Bentley Collins
The GOAT female character from the past 5 years at least.
Aiden Howard
>False
Remind me who doesn't like her?
>That's not even a function of a mary Sue that's also not fulfilled by "not being killed by fucking mole monsters".
Revise this sentence, and rewrite it to make sense.
>Just because you don't like it or find it logical does not constitute an asspull
>You're wrong because you're wrong
Outstanding logic there pal!
Ethan Bennett
Here's mine.
>Woman is a 160 IQ high functioning psychopath who only kills people who get in her path.
>By day she's miami plastic surgeon marta gargantua, by night she's a serial killer/drug baron/cult leader/slave broker/pirate queen/offshore banker, who secretly manipulates cartels, starting and stopping gang wars, accidenting high ranking members so that fools she's controlling can be promoted, giving her full access to cartel funds and assets.
>Her criminal persona has many aliases such as: tunda, patasola, peuchen, and her most popular one santa muerte.
>The cartels and local police have to make up crazy conspiracies to make sense out of some of her deliberately more bizarre crime scenes, they think it is the work of local bogey-men/cultists/cryptids.
>operates out of a boat, has an unregistered hidden private bunker connected to a small officially uncharted sub-aquatic cave network (going from tampa florida through miami all the way to santa clara cuba), also has remote controlled cheap submersibles, the rest is just cartel assets (she's very frugal).
>Her area of influence is the entire Caribbean sea and the southern part of mexican golf
>She created a secret cartel that parasites all the other cartels.
>Tricked all the cartels into thinking folk religions are magic by pretending to be various of death gods/demons that hear their thoughts and realize their murder wish list if they practice creole/mayaztec religions and sacrifice/eat people.
>She is a spooky assassin pagan god for fun.
>everyone in french Guyana is part of her cults, she uses them to bug french satellites before their launched into space.
>she also lets her cultists throw people under rocket nozzle fire, or weld them alive onto satellites she wants sabotaged and turned into giant cadaver covered amulets floating in space.
>Rival cults that fail to do so will commit mass soduku dysentery orgies to escape the wrath of the floating amulets.
(1/4)
Evan Cruz
Came to post this /thread
Hunter Jackson
>Macrons original wives are kept in the Cuban Necroplois that the CIA think is just a communist metro network.
>When OPEC sacrifice inbred daughters of Saud to her shrines, she secretly refills their phreatic petrol reserves.
>To the general public Marta is a normal high intellectual doctor of psychology, gender studies and sex change procedures and other cosmetic surgical procedures, she is liberal owns five underground warehouse sized perfectly normal gaybars, only dates muscle men.
>she is a polyglot well read on forensic science, electronic engineering/programming and bio/chemistry, uses all her knowledge to give herself the ideal body best suited for her needs, follows strict diet and takes steroids&supplements, doesn't care that the human body at peak performance is masculine (has no problem getting laid because she only fucks bodybuilders, enjoys molesting musclefags).
>Marta is in a secret spiritual and intellectual war with her only true friend, an ex-FBI psychic medium named donald who when he left to become a tarot card reading astrologue, once a 120kg beefcake of swedish stock he is now transitioning into a 50kg trans-afro-latin-woman.
>He doesn't know that his female friend is a fake pagan goddess/Queen of Caribbean drug roads but the more time he spends with her the more suspicious he gets of her when her emotion aura takes on odd colors
>Marta is supporting him in his journey, but must do her best to control her emotions and stop him from finding out the truth.
>The DEA and Interpol are aslo asking him to help them form agents that can infiltrate the secret cartel cults and get to the root of the evil.
>The monstrosity of the crimes caused by santa muerte's influence is harming him, thankfully marta is there to help.
(2/4)
Parker Turner
>Her usual Modus operandi (she usually does this on her own) is to, over the span of several months, find a small group of low ranking grunts, kill one third, kidnap one third and leave the last third psychologically damaged via psychotropics/psyops and violence.
The kidnapped members are surgically and psychologically altered, the ones used in terror tactics are turned into voodoo zombies to be used against their former cartels. They get facial surgery to become a doppelganger of the target, lobotomized and fitted with animatronics implants/bombs, ex: they get the face of their boss, when their boss finds out about them, they explode (just enough tnt to explode their bowls on the floor) the She kidnaps the boss and reapeats the procedure but with a bigger bosses face this time.
>the ones not used in terror tactics become either members of her secret cartel (some become sleeper cells in other rival cartels) or are transformed in into transexuals/transracials/transpecies(thanks to her knowledge of the immune system she can successfully transplant orangutan limbs and panther teeth/gums + jaw and snout).
>She finances the democratic party/candidates with class A drugs using the breast/butt and gut implants of her trans cultists to smuggle them into their pizza parlors were they redistribute the wealth to america.
(3/4)
Samuel Lee
>Marta also designed a set of military grade devices and clothing for her nocturnal activities, has detachable small drones all over her form fitting anti-contamination dry suit, uses it to virtually increase and rotate her field of view, see in different EM ranges, has both telescopic and microscopic lenses. Some drones are fitted with wide-frequency sonic field microphones and captors sensitive to VOC and other particulates, also sensitive to motion.
>She also has ai that will spot and identify events/objects of interest and other data a normal human wouldn't notice, it then automatically displayes info on them in her AR visor, very usful as a crutch when drugged or sick.
>her anti-contamination suit has EM and sound emitters/dampeners that use drone info to create an active camouflage against surveillance tech.
To prevent the wrong people from inspecting her drones she detonates the nano-thermite bombs inside them.
>a mask filter and a hydraulic micro-system that pushes various substance through the porous layer of the anti-contamination suit when needed, usually biodegradable plastic that dry in contact with air and shed like dead skin, designed to evade sniffer dogs, sometimes laced with various drugs, animal repellent/bait to control wildlife and spook her target.
>She also has drones fitted with wide-frequency loudspeakers to spook the targets with infra and ultra sounds.
>the rest of her equipment consists of a pneumatic and a hydraulic gun that both shoot de-aerated ice bullets and hypodermic needle darts along with surgery equipment, body bags and and vials of drugs normally used for surgery or psychedelic therapy.
(4/4)
Landon Sanders
Pro tip, its already been done......
Xavier Wilson
Jayden Brown
your sister?
Jayden Powell
(YOU) HAVE TO GO BACK
also obvious b8 is obvious
Daniel Flores
Aliens, Terminator 1, terminator 2
Jace Foster
/Thread
Lincoln Stewart
Starbuck
Elijah Nelson
>In the original script she was suppossed to die
Based. No arguments here. /Thread
Thomas Morales
>replying to /pol/tard bait
You are still giving him (You)s you absolute god damned retard
David Kelly
>lives in feces
based
this but unironically. Also,
Aiden Morris
MADOKA
NO MAGICA :'( :'( :'(
Benjamin Gomez
I always thought it was funny they turned this into a rape scene when in the books she fucks him willingly and eagerly within three pages of meeting him.
Dylan Powell
based first poster
how do they always do it?
Luis Barnes
>hardcore sex machine
No wonder Disney picked her up. How many Jewish execs' balls did she empty to get that gig, boys?
Adrian Hill
>stay at home house wife
>husband died on a suicide mission
>take care of kids alone
>youngest kid dying, gets help from late husband's friends
>sent on the exact same suicide mission
Jonathan Parker
eeehhh, no.
Please go back to your "muh alita waifu" thread #326324
Isaac Harris
>has black babies
>demanding a white guy come take care of them
>"based"
Levi Jones
contrary to what some feminists say, a strong female character isn't a woman who acts like a man
a strong male character is about strength, overcoming and destroying
a strong female character is about enduring, persevering against all odds and resisting and doing the most of out the situation
these are some examples of really good strong FEMALE characters
>Carmela Soprano
>Ripley
>Clarice Starling
>Sarah Connor
Elizabeth Swan from the pirates movies and recently Armstrong's wife from the first man movie
Isaiah Bell
>3. titties so big they block her neck
pleb
Joseph Collins
True. It's 6 titties or bust.
Asher Powell
Just write a decent male, and change it to a chick:
A woman with personal issues at the onset who comes across a situation that upheaves her entire life. She has struggles, grows a little and eventually wins some pretty hard fought battles.
Nolan Clark
Ask yourself did you ever find yourself rooting for Rey or Capt Marvel or any other Mary Sue as opposed to Sarah Connor shooting the T1000? I highly doubt it
Kayden Gomez
Maybe like, before she became force sensitive
Nathaniel Myers
Scarlet Witch desu. She's stupid powerful but she's earned it.
Jose Butler
By?
Alexander Scott
I still have no idea what *strong woman* means except in the most literal way
Adam Thomas
rigley from alien.
Levi Jackson
>Strong female
>not a mary sue.
come now.
John Cruz
>rigley from alien.
ripley*
Tyler Long
rigley**
Dylan Adams
>This is a strong, empowered woman to feminists who have already forgotten season 1
Evan Collins
>write a strong female character that isn’t a Mary Sue
>people just post already written characters
Female Jedi
>strong in the force
>force tantrums at early age isolates her from others at academy (she can’t control herself so hurts others and herself)
>becomes afraid of herself and represses her force powers as well as she can but fails
>isn’t an amazing pilot
>can’t speak Wookie and droid without ever meeting one
Luke Brooks
It's not the only time they turn a consensual sex scene from the books into rape, I'm surprised they don't get more flak for it.
Joseph Butler
Whens Mona Lisa Overdrive Netflix adaption
Robert Diaz
Absolutely right
Luis Johnson
>Old as Fuck
>Cunt is decrepit
>Has no need to flaunt any cock around
>Has smirkfu as based grandaughter
>Only Equal to Based Tywin
>Only thing that killed her was bad writing
Leo Morris
>Supposed to be a Tiger Master
>Meets the baddest motherfucker on the cosmos. Pai Mei
>Throws her arms like an autistic idiot
>The director wants us to believe this idiocy is 'kung-fu'
>Beats 88 asian niggas with an extended kitchen knife. Again, looking like a weeaboo faggot
>Beats Ball'n'chain anime girl
>Beats Niggress with Ceral Boxes
>Beats the Day into Night
>Beats everything even the greatest assassin on earth, by using 'fingers'
>Not a Mary Sue
No
Dylan Scott
You have to specify the Terminator 2 ONLY. On terminator 01 she was just a Cock Dispenser for Future Soldier.
Lucas Butler
>Katniss fucking Everdeen
>Never misses an arrow shot
>Is madly loved by the 02 archetypes of ideal men, depending on the women's menstrual cycle - The Strong and Virile Hunk or the sweet and caring phaggot
>Can't differentiate between being a hot blooded passionate soul who fights for a higher reason AND a complete moron who ONLY acts on hormonal impulses and calls it 'Fire'.
>Thinks herself as the center of the whole story
>Wear pretty dresses that awes even the clouds in the sky
>Goes to talk shows to talk about stuff and junk
She's not a Mary Sue. She's Bella from Twilight with a bow
Benjamin Thompson
>11 years old who thinks this fap material has any personality
Mason Martinez
wrong.
You missed the huge amount of character progression Sara made in that movie (most of the movie).
Gavin Robinson
No one in the history of writing will ever read that. I am trying to kill time at work, not graduate in reading a billion fucking words.
Apply yourself
Jonathan James
You mother fucker
GET OUT OF HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUC K YOUUUUU CUN
CUNTTTTTTTTTT
Nathan Taylor
Unintelligible but approved
Lincoln Hughes
>muh waifu threads
>if you like the character then it must be a Mary Sue no doubt
K' retard.
Chase Hill
This. Best fucking female character out of this year.
William Brown
Mong.
Moviealita is a shitty character in a shitty movie.
Enjoy getting no sequel
Parker Fisher
>you need a sequel confirmation to prove your female lead isn't shit
I'm sorry I don't jack off to CM or Rey, user. I'm not usually fond of a character 'born with the gift' of being flawless.
Blake Ward
you just confirmed that the alita fad only exists as a fuck-you to these other shitty characters.
Jacob Gomez
My wife.
Me in the background.
Josiah Baker
retards
Connor Diaz
Daily reminder that the cat is the only creature in the alien universe to get an happy ending.