ITT: characters women will never understand
ITT: characters women will never understand
perhaps it's best if i don't understand why men would let themselves be burned alive rather than hurt their pride
who designed the armor for that giraffe mother fucker, lmfao
Tywin and Stannis. Show killed them off becuase they don't appeal to their audience of landwale 30yr old cat ladies.
I'm pretty sure they killed off Tywin because he dies in the books. You're probably right about Stannis, though.
YAAAAAAAAASSSSSS KWEEEEEEEEEEN
SLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
you can put literally any character there
if that's how you interpret it, you absolutely don't understand it, you child
>rather than hurt their pride
based roastie proving OP right
Can we also post props which women mistake for characters?
honor is a fake currency invented by rich and powerful people to have their servants die for them
Which legion was he in again?
mommy
Died like some Jews
no, it was only subverted and used by them
W O K E
any of them
Can you imagine being a w*man?
way to prove OPs point
THIRTEEEEEEEN
Wrong. My mother understands them perfectly fine. The queen though, my mother doesn't understand, maybe because she's not a religious retard.
Yeah, not even D&D understood Stannis. But then, jewish men are the women of men.
You're retarded
absolute qt. i miss her already
>being a dead faggot
kek
literally proved OP's point lmao.
THE WALL
IS
COMING
>My mother
user, i think your mother has a little secret
Daenerys kills unarmed prisoners of war
>Nobody bats an eye, yass queen
Cersei kills unarmed prisoner of war
>Twitter outrage, fuck cersei, evil queen, etc
Truly the identity of the individual behind this point is unattainable.
I'm sure you'll be glad to serve with honor and die for your country when your jewish overlords invade another third world shithole.
Based. His arc was pure kino
Reminds me of all those bootlicking retards going and dying in Iraq.
haha my favorite reddit posts. upboated my friends :)
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Imagine dying for big oil.
they died defending their country from invaders not attacking you dumb roastie
Lmao are burgers actually so scared of brown people that they think 3rd world shitholes are going to destroy their country.
Are anons really LARPing like they would have stood their ground and not surrendered immediately if they were in this situation
Jesus Christ this board is pathetic
The only problem with fighting for oil money is that the soldiers didn't get a cut
Back in the day it was expected for soldiers to get a cut of the pillaging. Nowadays it's not "pc" to admit you're attacking a country for their resources. You know why it's not PC?
Because honor as a concept doesn't exist anymore. You are the problem.
Tywin died in the books. Stannis on the other hand got fucked over.
What a useless fucking character. At least Greyworm fights from time to time.
>women will never know what it's like to grow up being named Dickon
BASED
tradcucks are so fucking cringe holy shit bros...
The show got so bad at that point, i'd probably volunteer to be burned alive
This is true, but don't let lower level intellects catch on.
If too many people were intelligent, we would have no armies, then smart people would be forced to fight.
This is why conservatives are needed in the US, they have to be smart enough to work their asses off and generate work and money that will be taxed by the rich, with enough manufactured belief to love guns military and the flag, but just dumb enough o vote for conservative politics and sign up for wars in random shit holes.
I'm not a trad cuck you virgin
You're a midwit, it's hilarious seeing you attempt to posture pseudo-intellectualism.
I wish I had shoulders like that
yeah I guess so man, I get paid 120k+ as a business process manager - literally tell people how think. Also 30k up in the market over the last year.
it isn't exactly rocket science, and isn't exactly controversial to say that conservative minded people get taken complete advantage of, and live an unfortunate reality of brain wash.
I mean these people literally think trump is intelligent and isn't corrupt.
You think that would happen with liberals (despite their many flaws)?
The only reason why it's "PC" is because we have progressed as a society and our morals/values have changed as well. Who the fuck would want to volunteer in slaughtering another country just so they can get a part of the "cut." The only way to justify the invasion is through "muh honor" and "muh patriotism." Honor is a meme, like the poster said, to get idiots to die for them.
Jesus Christ litteraly stood there and died like the God he is. Only the antichrist fears death
what about the cockless defender of the patriarchy
>This ugly crippled goyim has a gf and you don’t
Lmao have sex
>3rd world shitholes are going to destroy their country.
mexicans and africans are destroying our country through demographics.
Imagine having sex
Based and Redpilled
So your solution is invading their country and destabilizing their region, forcing them to immigrate to your country?
>Targaryen loyalist house that rose to power due to Targaryens doesn't bend the knee to Targaryens
I don't understand too desu
Now that's a guy that I like, wish there were more shows like Rome
>t-thanks for killing my family your grace
t. Samwell Tarly
The 13th legion you imbecile
No they're all faggots, the show is dogshit, watch tome if you actually want to watch something historically accurate
this, it was disgusting. i mean ok he hated his father but his brother seemed like a nice guy.
While liberals create bad living conditions, subtly encouraging people to join the army since they don’t have many other options. The really really smart people are the ones using both of these groups to force the population to walk between a wall and very large cliff. But I’m sure you already knew that smart son :)
>historically accurate
The show is based on cornwells series of 11 "fill in the blanks" novels. It's about as historically accurate as fucking Vikings.
"tome" was even gayer on the accuracy
im not a liberal. but to suggest one party hasn't been More beholden to special interest groups, the rich, and to war is flat out delusion.
of course libs are wrong on shit, but its mostly around pushing social shit too quickly.
And joining the army if you're coming from nothing is really not the worse bet either.
if you're a jail bird, or have no family, or are poor - the military can help.
Might get your head blown off and might get PTSD to the point where you kill yourself. But worth the risk.
Stop comparing Jesus who died for mankind, to a faggot who died for some queen.
excellently crafted b8 if true
that wasn't the case in the show however
BASED Randyll BTFO Sam
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This
Typical mensa-tier unironic retardation. I have high IQ or I am successful in one field, therefor my thoughts on other things are also smart and correct. This is how you end you with nobel prize winners literally declaring entire fields of science obsolete because his brilliant theory of chemistry proves plate tectonics are wrong or some stupid bullshit like that.
Conservatively-minded people are the backbone of any society. They *can* get taken advantage of, which is why they (when their culture is healthy) extremely aggressively punishes free riders. Such as e.g. that faggot Samwell, who got sent to the wall for being a coward. That is how a healthy society run by conservatives works: Do what we tell you to, or be punished.
Obviously, it has the massive flaw in that it leads to stagnation. Thus, war is necessary to put these societies to the perpetual test of strength that demands progress from them.
You could also harvest the left's penchant for novelty to generate progress, but nearly all the novelty they generate is worthless self-destructive trash, so it's hard to justify it. Only really after we figured out the process of science has the left mentality become somewhat defensible, in that the stupid shit it generates can be put to test in a controlled environment to see if it works or not before it's applied to society.
Sadly, the left has increasingly taken to claiming for themselves the legitimacy of science in non-scientific fields such as social fields, resulting in the generation of enormous amounts of free riders who just ride by unpunished. Our incredibly strong economy has been able to sustain this so far, but who knows for how long that can last.
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It's true. Communism is as jewish as the mafia is itialian.
>bragging about how smart you are on four channel.
Impressive
>trying to prove yourself on the worst board on Yea Forums
holy shit you must be a turbo manlet
this is bait
Valyrian Gear Varys: The Phantom Cock
better be bait
did he ever care about anyone?
Well at least Dickon didnt shit himself when he died. Take THAT Bronn!
It's a matter of honor, not pride.
How does a grill not being a roastie benefit the rich and powerful? Do you even understand what honor is?
>Non-white
>Honor
Never mind, I'm sure you'd have invented the wheel...eventually.
HONOR'S MEANINGLESS
Nigger the two gentlemen in the OP are rich and powerful people dying for their honor. Remember that, despite all the modern revisionism, the primary casualties of medieval wars in terms of percentage of the population dying, were nobility. "Honor" is a complex social and moral phenomenon created by powerful people usually FOR powerful people. Previously in European history, when the rich weren't money-changers and industrialists, they were warrior-aristocrats. Honor served as a system of reciprocal relations between other nobles and to give them a reason to show kindness to the commoners. It was to curb the potential of the powerful class, not to strengthen it. And this isn't a Eurocentric idea in the slightest. The Samurai of Japan and the Rajputs of India were known for binding codes of honor.
That the rhetoric is used and manipulated by contemporary financial elites has no bearing on it's origin. In fact these people are the spiritual successors of the very class that had to tried to subvert the idea of honor in favor of ruthless cunning and self-preservation at all costs.
"Promise me, Ned. Promise me you won't immediately go tell your ex-spouse in the very next scene, like you were a self-serving and dishonest cunt raised by abusers and political schemers."
I'm pretty sure that's Elizabeth Rohm, not a gf
kys, no one will stop you
>the primary casualties of medieval wars in terms of percentage of the population dying, were nobility
holy fuck you can't be serious
and of course OBLIGATORY reference to, non other than, Japan
Season 1 was based.
Season 2 went full retard with making him a superhero mobster. Fucking ruined the show.
Based this will make peppy seethe
lol
Actually i agree with a lot of what youre saying.
Doesnt negate what i said.
In fact my arguement was that they are neccessary.
But are you going to include shit like climate change, anti abortion laws, spending trillions on war?
How about he fact that you and your families are all fucked while you pay people like me more in taxes?
Medieval dudes.
It's one of the more realistic suits of plate in the show.
Especially odd considering how power rangers the armour has become of late.
I always knew Sansa was more of a Tully than a Stark
Yeah, we should all be cannibalistic, human-sacrificing, dangerous people, with no sense of empathy or what's fair.
Season 2 was a mess but it was understandable since they knew they were getting canceled.
this
NO NO
POWER STRUCTURE IS BAD
She's a plot device so Greyworm and the Unsullied remnants unleash their nigger slave rampage on the whities in KL next episode. Acting without orders and slaughtering men,women and children without mercy.
I bet the sociopath SJW's will cheer him on as he and his troops do it while screaming "FOR MISSANDEI!" etc
They were literally screaming and cheering when Missandei gave Daenerys the go ahead to burn KL to the ground.
Cattle die
kinsmen die
all men are mortal.
Words of praise
will never perish
nor a noble name.
DICKON getting burned alive was what started Tyrion and Varys questioning their loyalties to Dany
Based DICKON killed Dany from beyond the grave by sacrificing himself. How can literal cuckold Samwell even compete?
and thats why women are nothing that a bunch of bitches and hoes
nuclear cope
Can someone who isn't filled with soi or has a cunt, explain why folks think these guys are cool and honor is gr8, while at the same time sucking the dick of every backstabber in the show like jamie, little finger or the boltons?
no honor being dishonorable against a dishonorable foe. They should have bent the knee, grow their forces, and turn against her when she faced Cersei. Their entire house is obliterated, they have no honor to defend anymore.
Well you said it yourself, people debating it are filled with soi.
>dying a pointless death and leaving your family defenseless because you had a daddy's boy moment
there's nothing honorable about this, he was acting on impulse
oof
Based
Hey thats my line.
No, it's normal that you don't understand, but not best.
You see, you're (presumably) a woman, content to be assfucked by the invaders, as women always have been. You are for taking. You want to live, you don't care about anything else, and you would gladly submit your cunt to the victor, whoever it is. You have no allegiance but to yourself and your twat, no country to defend, no honor, no history, no lineage (societies are patrilinear), no culture, no religion, no way of life, no customs, no laws. You have always been like that, it's in your nature. Sure I can accept that.
Put please shut your mouth and let us be men and have some dignity in peace, thank you. In any normal society, you would be taking a slap to the face for spewing your bullshit and whoever gave you that slap (your husband, your father, your older brother, your uncle, your cousin, whoever) should not get in trouble with the powers that be for that. But alas.
I hope you're at least having sex. Who am I kidding of course you are.
It's actually true.
Most battles were fought between Noble families,their household guards and their lesser nobles. Those extended family,adopted family and intermarried family bonded together for centuries through the honour system.
The vast majority of medieval armies especially in the mid-high medieval period were fully paid professional troops that are fulltime and whose equipment is paid for by the lords,ladies or even countries for those that were formed.
What most people think about is the earliest few centuries of those days with the levies and peasant conscripts where contrary to popular belief the vast majority of forces were paid mercenaries who were all experienced soldiers and had their own equipment.
When the return to centralisation began, the recruits put into the regular army were Yeomanry men. Those "free men" who were usually attendants to nobles and lived on the land of nobles. No longer poor peasants, they owned land and had some wealth and sometimes great wealth depending on the size of their land. Yeoman could become judges,knights,mayors,merchants,lesser nobles etc.
But wemen are supposed to be emotional and men rational?
This is exact oposit? men getting killed becouse of their feels>reals lol
Whether thots, roasties, literal whores, housewives or even some of the most moderate virgins, females will never understand the complex philosophy of the Night's Watch.
It's inherently foreign to them, the idea of a group of men, sworn together in brotherhood, who, despite any differences in heritage, would deny them any Attention, in order to pursue more important tasks.
Jeor Mormont was the best example of what a watchman should be; honourable, dutiful, empathatic for his watchmen and concentrated on his tasks. A true leader, a true nobleman, empty of any lesser desires, without fear or taint.
We shall never see his like again.
Well women have no conceptual understanding of principles, so no one expects you to understand.
That sounds like something someone living in Portland would say.
Yeah so you would die to save your honor but would let your relatives and your house be overrun by invaders. The honorable thing is too fight until your last breath, if it means bending the knee to some cunt who'll get what's coming to her eventually, then so be it. Beta faggots like you are the reason the world has turned to shit, you're a poser, and would rather be well seen by sticking to whatever retarded standards is the norm instead of taking action.
There is no understanding Uther, he's an idiot.
this
Funny that people who rule over you consider honorable people dumb animals
Honour is an inherent tribal concept, not related to corrupted, traitorous lords and their(((foreign))) overlords.
There are multiple variations of honour, though most honour stems from the legacy of your ancestors, which you have to maintain and leave intact for your children and tribe.
Other forms of honour include being just and dutiful, to remain trustable while trusting your relatives, which is necessary for survival.
Fuck your urbanite world of backstabbing, schemeing and asslicking and your misunderstanding of malvolence for degeneracy.
>this is black according to americans
Lol a snow nigger whos people got btfo, honor didn't help them survive huh?
Women don't understand honor because it's not something that can be defined in terms they'd actually understand. Randyll and Dickon made the right decision to die by their terms in defiance to some entitled, white savior cunt who's probably going to die anyway. Rather than submit themselves to the corrupt, tyrannical rule of a foreign invader. Fuck women and all this butthurt over Danaerys going Mad Queen. She's literally a multi-generational product of incest and luckily for them she doesn't fucking baffle Christendom by continuing to draw breath.
This was the moment normies were supposed to realize there is something wrong with Danny. Instead they cheer like fucking animals at people being burnt alive.
I can't wait to see these retards reaction when Jon kill Danny
They were both complete retards though, was is there to understand?
haha yes give up goyim, keep your honor and don't fight back. Funny you post a pic of Gladiator since Maximus decided to shed his honor away to get his revenge.
>I get paid 120k+ as a business process manager - literally tell people how think
>I mean these people literally think trump is intelligent
you're an actual retard if you can't see the irony
Lol you’d be the faggot wanting sword control in medieval times
well what did you expect ? ofc the "feminists" loved it when white CIS males get burned by a strong female character. the thing is though GRRM is a real feminist and shows the good and bad in both male and female characters so they will get BTFO and be so salty I can hardly believe it..
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Dude looks like a fuckin' builder, give him a toolbelt & call it a day
>brainlets who don't realise that he was essentially bluffing and hoping that daenerys wouldn't kill both father and son - risking his life to save his fathers like a hero. obviously the gamble didn't pay off.
Literally no different to what Eddard did by bending the knee to Joffrey. They both died because evil people don't respect honour. If Daenerys wasn't so heavily protected by plot armour (plot armour by the name of Jorah Mormont), she would have died long ago. She's not strong like The Hound or Brienne so she could never survive on her own and she's not a good leader so it makes zero sense that people follow her. Really terrible character.
Let me tell about another one of the cringiest scenes in the show. The "power is power" scene with Cersei and Littlefinger. What point was Cersei proving? Couldn't any one of the guards have ended her life then and there. She didn't have any power, her guards had the power. That's really the biggest problem with the show. The multitude of extremely unlikable women in leadership positions.
>keep your honor and don't fight back
>Punch a medieval nuke, user
>bend the knee
>pretend to serve
>backstab when the moment is right
before you talk about muh honor you soi fuck, remember that she was burning people alive for defending their land
Did Linkara make that demotivational himself
the eternal roastie
>die pretty quickly getting roasted by a dragon with your honor in tact
>or live under some batshit targaryen acting just like the mad king you sort of defended and probably end up bleeding out in some shithole she sent you to
Plenty of people would rather die than live a miserable life.
>die for sure
>or get a chance to turn things around, save your house and your people and kill the cunt whnen you get the opportunity
What chance? Tarlys were already like a 3rd string house. Also they would have just ruined the house reputation if they turned on her.
>collar and side boobs
how is this even legal in the united states??
>war never damaged cities and villages
Medieval wars were skirmishes and long-ass sieges where levies served. Nobility feasted and played their war games.
Yeah women don't understand honor
what armors?
You mean the dark slabs of belts?
>Medieval wars were skirmishes and long-ass sieges where levies served. Nobility feasted and played their war games.
There are.. exceptions to this
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Stannis was a Mary Sue stand in for retarded incels. He had literally everything handed to him
Great character in a mediocre cartoon. Btw back to Yea Forums, faggot
poor bait 0/5
He isn't. He's posting a character that he feels fits the thread.
>ITT: characters women will never understand
Speaking of which, pic related.
and now their house don't even exist anymore, surely there is something they could have done in time, but just give up goyim
>Avatar
>mediocre
i shall return to Yea Forums when you return to reddit
why this low effort bait gets so many replies?
How did the mongols do it bros? Last time non-whites were GOAT.
Conan! What is best in life?
I understand him perfectly; he's the embodiment of toxic masculinity.
cringe
>How did the mongols do it bros?
Extensive use of spies and recon, aim to defeat the enemy in detail in multiple engagements spread over time and area if strong, make example of those who make them bother in a siege.
go dilate
>>and now their house don't even exist anymore,
It does
>the too smart to care about anything
what the fat fuck serving the cunt that killed his father and brother?
>they should have just served dany
>wtf why is that guy serving dany
Did you just assume my gender?
2017 called, wants its joke back
he has a choice, they didn't. And I said they should have pretended to serve her.
>then smart people would be forced to fight.
you'd have a blade held up to your neck by the first stupid person you saw if you took away armies.
>it's a larper derails another thread episode
>they didn't have a choice
>they should have
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Vic Mackey
you know what I meant
holy cringe
Tywin's death was badly written.
Tyrion's motivations ofr killing his lord father were presented as more superficial than a love affair in his youth.
YAAASS QUEEN SLAAAAYYY
Really makes you think doesn't it roastie
God even my femenist boomer mum is smarter than you and has more empathy for men
>Every nigger must die
>I am the law
kek
Villages were rarely ever touched during conflicts. Villagers don't care who rules, so if someone shows up with some soldiers and demand submission they're gonna nod and smile and go back to their lives.
Villages were also almost never part of any battle, because it's generally not worth all the work it takes to fortify it against attack.
The exception being if the village was built around a major/important road. But even then, orders would more often than not be to leave the buildings and villagers alone if possible, because if you take the village, you want it to be up and running to house and feed your soldiers and treat the wounded as fast as possible.
Sorry, Apache. I respect helicopters and their autonomy.
Silly me thinking it was just a meme that women have no understanding of concepts such as bravery and sacrifice.
I mean, a few do but generally it's not part of female culture.
Are we brothers?
Pure kino
i never got this MGTOW shit, ofcourse uggos have to compensate for their looks with something else (usually money), ofcourse women are attracted to handsome men, how is any of this new or a redpill to these people?
good memes never die
Only to losers who are unable to cope with the harsh reality that women are equally superficial as men. I can understand it somewhat, women are very apt at hiding their true nature underneath (self) delusions of romance
that was never a good meme
Highly based
His wife left him and he killed himself.
Your views on military history seem contrived and are quite humourus.
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First off the medieval era was a huge period of time, more than a thousand years, going from the fall of Rome in 476 AD, to the arrival of Columbus in the Americas in 1492 AD.
There's the early medieval period (6th-10th century), the high medieval period (11th-13th century) and the late medieval period (14th-15th century).
Each is inherently different in warfare, while the early middle ages largely saw an array of military systems of warfare, they were inspired mostly by the late Western Roman technology and tactics and Germanic tribal military tradition, while the late period was full of sophisticated and organized warfare, based on a class of foot soldiers, cavalry provided by mercenaries and landed gentry as well as a corp of officers provided by nobles.
As to destruction during warfare, most times unfortified towns and farmer villages would be raided, which would result in different amount of violence depending on the circumstances of the conflict, the discipline of the soldiers and their given orders.
Keeping up castles and participating in large engagements was costly, which is why they were avoided.
Most engagements were even not that bloody, take the wars of the Italian city-states for example.
Milan and Florent fought a battle once, where only one mercenary died.
The mercenaries were only sporadically motivated to kill each other, as they either were discontent with their payment, thus not willing to die, or satisfied with what they've got, which reduced their lust for killing.
Realistically a war between two lords would consist of small raids, then engagements where opposing forces would exchange violent bouts with the opponent, much like a bar fight, just with spears, axes, lances, daggers, swords and bows.
This user: is correct.
But the high born in asoiaf have always been described to wear lavish armor
user... good user. Who better of you to post? There's no better post in this thread.
Guess what, when you change allegiances more than five times, no one is going to trust you and you are ultimately fucked.
As bannermen of House Tyrell, Randyl Tarly served Aerys II., attacking Robert Baratheon at the Golden Tooth, besieging his brother Stannis at Storm's End, the main fucking seat of the Baratheons, then he and his liege-lord were pardoned by Robert, after his death they were allied to Renly Baratheon, who had the weakest claim to the throne, out of all Baratheons.
Immediately after he died, the Reach then allied with Joffrey of House Baratheon and Lannister,after he died his younger brother, then after the queen mother decided to blow up the liege-lord of Randyl, he changed allegiance to queen Cersei Lannister and attacked Olenna Tyrell.
If he actually bent the knee to Daenerys, he would have reached full circle.
>buttmad in fb
the hurt is real
Pagan snowniggers who got btfo'd by Christian snowniggers.
Olaf of Norway died a martyr instead of giving up on the field of battle.
Delet nao
What a brainlet post. Currency is the fake currency.
Honor and virtue are the true building blocks of a good society.
Not unless I get the 2020 jokes.
This.
>Are you a brother of the Night's Watch or re you a bastard boy who wants to play at war
Well that question was answered in later seasons I say.
Most officers and ranking commanders were members of some nobility in many medieval societies because they were the only ones who could afford combat training and education in tactics. In the battlefield, the main goal was to eradicate the chain-of-command, causing the main force to break and surrender; a goal that was won by killing the officers. Power vacuums routinely opened up after major battles/wars because nobility on one side or the other (sometimes both) were wiped out.
the most based show out there. better than GoT, and around three thousand times better than Vikings
so is virtue
>principles are a spook invented by the rich to cripple those beneath them
explain principled rich people, they tend to be pretty powerful. Honor wasnt invented by lords to make sure their men stay in battle, if anything it was invented by soldiers. It would be beneficial to lords that all of their soldiers were conniving and cruel, ruthless in battle without hesitation or principles so they just win. Honor spares people, and takes care of prisoners when they are sick or injured, not raping and pillaging. All of the things honor does do not benefit a leader. based retard making everyone realize that principles are a good thing.
don't have children
Honor is not about surviving you pathetic mongrel, it's about how you live and how you die
he was fantastic as the republican stoist... I wish he didn't have the mobster storyline, I'm sure he could have gone dark without that specific path.
Still, it was kino.
>I get paid 120k+ as a business process manager
What's the point in lying on a European stamp collecting forum? No one's going to be more impressed by your supposed career success.
All the fucking beta virgins replying to this post, holy shit. It's one thing for Randyll but Dickons death was fucking pointless and stupid, anyone who parrots "muh honor" is a fucking idiot.
>all these replies
The downright, absolute STATE of this BOARD
>All the fucking beta virgins replying to this post
>Soiboi that thinks they should've knelt and groveled at her feet for forgiveness because they choose a side
Really makes one ponder.
articulate and based
you're literally just creating strawmans against his argument. he's not saying he's going to let his house be overrun.
He's saying a woman's decision would be to surrender whereas a man would fight.
She looked so much better in the season she was introduced. She's thinned out since then, fucking Emilia probably has her snorting lines of coke with her between scenes.
Pride has never been a virtue in Western Christian culture, it is a cardinal sin. Like the men at the Alamo or the Spartans at Thermopylae, a lot of men like these two take a great deal of gratification in making their lives hardships for the benefit of the group, right down until their deaths, which is part of the Christian ideal of martyrdom. All throughout history you'll see men sacrifice themselves to bolster their cause.
Men are clearly a lot more collectively minded people, it is a part of our biology. These types of characters are also very popular among men, yet in modern media not a lot of these characters are shown, and their motifs are often not clearly explained/shown to be fair. It is a shame because a lot of passion can be shown in these types of sacrifices. Think of it like your favourite romantic comedy character finally getting with her favourite man, or whatever interests women and get's them passionate when reading or watching movies.
okay fair enough, I guess I was using his post as a proxy for all the other retards ITT