Why didn't they fucking SHOOT THEM ALL JESUS CHRIST THEY HAD A TINY REGIMENT WITH DANY AND ALL HER ADVISORS EVEN THE...

Why didn't they fucking SHOOT THEM ALL JESUS CHRIST THEY HAD A TINY REGIMENT WITH DANY AND ALL HER ADVISORS EVEN THE DRAGON WAS ON THE FUCKING GROUND AT LEAST SHOOT THAT SO THEY LITERALLY HAVE NO ADVANTAGE

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>be Cersei
>eight ballista atop 60ft castle walls
>doesn't shoot because enemy out of range at 300 ft away
>be Euron
>one ballista affixed to a floating ship under wind power
>hits a bullseye through the three-foot wide neck of an erratically flying dragon 500 yards away

GoT: Where your expectations are subverted in the most spectacularly shitty ways

Maybe they borrowed some writers from Star Trek discovery.

You idiot you dont have any idea how diplomacy works do you. You fucking retard. Stop watching the show dumb fuck

>you dont have any idea how diplomacy works do you
What diplomacy? The moment Cersei beheaded that woman, it was obvious diplomacy was over. She should have launched the ballistas and rain arrows on Dany and her crew.

what happened to winter?

because the dragon would probably manage to survive and then come back with jon and his army and leave no survivors in kings landing

Cersei doesn't give a shit what other nobles think.
the red wedding and sept pf baelor show this.

those ballistas literally cannot be aimed or reloaded
for real how would you aim them downwards

Genius D&D subverted your expectations that the characters have brains in their skulls instead of empty cavities.

>other nobles
I thought all the other nobles were dead, where are they?

It’s the inconsistency that really annoys me. The writers are truly retarded as they will establish something in the world of their show then immediately show something that undermines what they just spent screen time establishing.

>You idiot you dont have any idea how diplomacy works do you. You fucking retard. Stop watching the show dumb fuck
People don't parlay like that in real life with everything at stake.

At least not with one side having all the advantages.

100% of the time the Cersei side would have killed them all and, if necessary, simply lied about how it happened.

Is it that bad?

Mutually assured destruction. Drogon burns Cersei if she opens fire.

Euron can easily just no scope it

Remember when the 2 leaders of opposing factions in a war would communicate through messengers? You know, because meeting face to face would be fucking retarded for both sides because of how risky it would be?

Well the average show fan doesn't. Their 20 IQ brains couldn't care less, and neither do the writers.

They could've all aimed the scorpians at drogo and killed him. Then what would Dany do?

>communicate through messengers
Right? No-one even thought to send a fucking raven? "Oh, sure, let's just rock up IN PERSON and see if the worlds biggest bitch wants to surrender and give up her hostage for no reason."

Drogon is on alert and has proven he can dodge those shots, unlike his brother who forgot about Euron’s fleet and auto aim overwatch abilities.

>because the dragon would probably manage to survive
this is the best possible shot on the dragon they could hope for
he's sitting in an open field in front of a bunch of their anti-dragon ballistas
fighting this dragon is inevitable, so why not take the best opportunity they'll ever get?

They won't have the accuracy to hit a 5'2 woman at 500m.

why the fuck would she care about "diplomacy" when Dany wants to kill her and burn the city to the ground? If she cared about "diplomacy" she wouldn't have chopped Missandei's head off. She blew up the fucking sept with the Tyrells in it for fucks sake, she doesn't care about being diplomatic.

>diplomacy
>”give up and surrender. I’m beggin you!”
>”no, you surrender”
>”Cersei, I know you’re still good inside!”
>Cersei proceeds to behead her only captive
>Itriedface.jpg
What a genious diplomat. Tyrion might as well change his name to Von Metternich.

You never ever bring your king/queen to a surrender negotiations like these. It's too dangerous. You only send some eloquent negotiators. Dany and the her 5 solders around her were definetly exposed to Cersei. D&D never did a proper war research but this is fucking basic knowledge to ignore. Havent at least seen what happened to Zerxes negotiators in the movie 300?

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>D&D never did a proper war research but this is fucking basic knowledge to ignore.
It's so stupid that literally everyone noticed that.

Why do they have to do that?

>how diplomacy works
>crazy bitch who has already actively participated in the betrayal of siblings just a few episodes earlier, executes a notable servant of her enemy to make an example
>diplomacy

Cersei has shown throughout the entirety of the show that she would be willing to deal a crushing blow to not only the leadership of her enemy, the last notable enemy of hers in the series, but also to the only thing that makes the enemy notable

you're fucking retarded whiteknighting this dogshit faggot

Diplomacy in GOT is offering the enemy your neck and surprise they take it.

>People don't parlay like that in real life with everything at stake.
There was a parley for every significant battle, no matter the power difference. They really didn't want to fight, because battles tend to be expensive, and if you can avoid that... Well, you should make the attempt very least.

>They won't have the accuracy to hit a 5'2 woman at 500m.
She was much closer than that.

>shoot important scene on green screen with minimal actors so no one spoils it
>looks like shit and is stupid as hell

>There was a parley for every significant battle, no matter the power difference. They really didn't want to fight, because battles tend to be expensive, and if you can avoid that... Well, you should make the attempt very least.
I mean not in the way of putting themselves in jeopardy.

However, anyone in Cersei's position would have very much liked to have a fight right there and then.

The same way they were aiming upwards in the ship?

>battles tend to be expensive
>literally gifted the most landslide in-your-favor fight possible, one that would with 100% certainty be decisively won and crippling

not an expensive battle

>You never ever bring your king/queen to a surrender negotiations like these
Renly parleys with Stannis...
Ramsay parleys with Jon...
Dany parleys with Second Sons...

All of those people had either honor, or roughly equal forces.

Cersei has no honor, and Dany literally walked straight into a death trap. Cersei had her finger on the "Instantly win the war" button and we're expected to believe she didn't press it because...
Because no reason. They write this shit for people who are too stupid to ask questions so they don't have any answers.

They were definetly at an arrow volley range. A good bow on a hands at a good shooter could easily land an arrow between Danys eyes. Cersei lost a good moment to turn the tide

Its a fucking tv show, user. ffs police that overwhelming autism.

>Its a fucking tv show, user. ffs police that overwhelming autism.
No it's not merely a fucking tv show, it's a complete waste of time whereas at one point in time it was interesting.

WHERE THE FUCK DID QYBURN GO
THE WHOLE POINT OF SENDING HIM DOWN THERE WAS INSURANCE THAT THE CONVERSATION COULD GO PEACEFULLY BY OFFERING AN IMPORTANT PLAYER IN CERSEI'S INNER CIRCLE TO THE ENEMY
BUT THEN HE JUST FUCKING TELEPORTS AWAY AND SHE KILLS MISS SUNDAY ANYWAY
WHAT THE FUCK AHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

nothing personnel, kid

It’s not but it has women characters so /pol/ gets upset

>No it's not merely a fucking tv show
Yes it is merely a fucking tv show. Not anyone's fault but yours getting so invested in it, mediocre as it is, that you angrily shit and piss yourself and rage because something doesn't play out how you imagined it. It's fucking make believe, not real.

Why are the archers and ballistas positioned on an exposed wooden platform OUTSIDE of the walled fortifications? It would be trivial to send an army of archers and kill everyone trying to operate the ballistas with a shower of missiles.

>Yes it is merely a fucking tv show. Not anyone's fault but yours getting so invested in it, mediocre as it is, that you angrily shit and piss yourself and rage because something doesn't play out how you imagined it. It's fucking make believe, not real.
If you put random crap on a television it becomes what is known as a bad show.

This is what we are discussing. No one is unaware that it is "just a show".

Stop being retarded. (Though I guess you could argue, if you had the ability to argue, that being retarded is the only thing allowing you to still enjoy the show)

imagine being this retarded

Those negotiations took place on neutural grounds, the both sides had brought an equal size of solders to guard them and put any kind of possible fight into a stalemate, and both kings had some honour and knew that in battlefield along with their "superior" strategy in their minds, was the best way to win this war,than an uncertain brawl in an negotiation meeting. On the other hand, Cersei knew Dany's army was tired and smaller from the nk fight, she already had ambushed them on the sea and she had the high ground to fuck their shit up after missadrei's death. Not taking that dirty chance was against Cersei's character.

NORMIE GET OUT REEEEEEEE

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People are pissed because it once had believable characters with realistic motivations. In the past couple of years the show creators have had more of a say in how the story will go and the writing has suffered immensely. Before the plot was dictated by the character decisions. Now it's the other way round. It used to be a very good show with some of the best writing on TV. This season is the lowest quality it has reached.

How do theyaim those things ? Honestly, look at the men standing besides the balista, there is no way he can aim that thing, it's way too big lmao

>bad show
IT IS A BAD SHOW. That's what you don't seem to understand. It was bad from the very first episode. The fucking books are bad too. What part are you struggling with? It's still make-believe, not real. Everything in fucking make-believe doesn't play out how you think it would in real life, that's kinda the entire point of MAKE-BELIEVE. FFS, user, it's a show about dragons, witchcraft, and snow zombies, but let's go ahead and gloss over that and scream-rage about the fucking ballistas not just shooting Dany's little entourage or the grounded dragon...

>Everything is equally bad! Reeeeee!

No, it's not. There's way worse shit than other.

>IT IS A BAD SHOW. That's what you don't seem to understand. It was bad from the very first episode. The fucking books are bad too. What part are you struggling with? It's still make-believe, not real. Everything in fucking make-believe doesn't play out how you think it would in real life, that's kinda the entire point of MAKE-BELIEVE. FFS, user, it's a show about dragons, witchcraft, and snow zombies, but let's go ahead and gloss over that and scream-rage about the fucking ballistas not just shooting Dany's little entourage or the grounded dragon...
OMG that's just what we don't get! It was bad all along as were the books!

Holy shit! It was just all bad! Everything is bad. I have higher tastes!

Fuck off.

Yes I have no idea how diplomacy works, you’re right user I’ll learn from Game of Thrones.

Next time I am negotiating with my volatile enemy, I will decapitate her beloved advisor in front of her so things go more smoothly you faggot

Why do you keep trying to explain the difference between fantasy and reality? We're all aware of this you retard. It's ok to get emotionally invested in fiction. It's called having an imagination and suspending your disbelief. If you hate this concept so much why are you on a TV discussion board in the first place?

>imagine being this fucking red-assed over imaginary shit written down by some lardass super dork, which was then turned into an even larger pile of shit by Hebrew Box Office
topfuckingkek

Nobility tends to respect diplomatic negotiations, even in the most bloodthirsty wars.
There is the odd story about the whole leadership getting slaughtered when one side breaks that trust, but its not the goto move.

And neither do you apparently.
Rulers never met eachother directly during war time, except when one got captured by the other.
That's literally what D I P L O M A T S are for, you fucking sperg.

If they killed Dany then the dragon could have killed Cersei and starting burning the ballistas and town and probably kill Cersei before they could reload. If it was just archers then the unsullied could have shield her.

Why are there so many autists?

Its even worse than GoT Season 8. It shits on any world building that was established in Star Trek and is also inconsistent in its own actions.
Just watch it to realize that GoT could be far worse.

It was too expensive.

Kill the dragon first.

We already know they can hit a dragon in the air, thousands of feet away, with perfect accuracy. Why are they suddenly scared to do it now, against a stationary dragon, from a few hundred feet away?

>topfuckingkek
Ok go watch, nothing I guess

The ballistas seemed to be very effective against fucking dragons. And it's not like Cersei didn't literally goaded Daeneris into trying to burn the town anyway.
Think things through, man.

>everything is bad, my taste is superior, I have won
Ok
Name some good shows and books

You can only aim those things towards the air the people on the lower platform are the ones that actually shoot the ballistae but it doesn't change the fact that she should've killed them

okay we get it, you've acquired the fundamentals of logic at age 12 and ceased your emotions to be 100% pure logical and rational like other geniuses such as newton, tesla and da vinci who also had no emotions.

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>Why do you keep trying to explain the difference between fantasy and reality?
Because autism.
>We're all aware of this you retard.
Apparently not, seeing as OP blew a fucking gasket because the show didn't play out precisely how he thinks it should. Again, autism.
>It's ok to get emotionally invested in fiction. It's called having an imagination and suspending your disbelief.
But not to the point where you're urinating on yourself and smearing your own fecal matter on your face because something doesn't happen like how you think it should happen in a fairytale. Autism, user.
>If you hate this concept so much why are you on a TV discussion board in the first place?
I don't hate the concept one bit. I know how to enjoy make-believe because I don't have autism that forces me to tear apart minor shit like "ballistas not firing at Dany's little gathering or the dragon sitting on the ground" because I understand that it's not real. Since I don't have crippling autism, I don't get angry at television shows, I don't feel the need to get angry because I think I know better. That's the reason no one can enjoy shit like this for what it is, every autist has to lose their shit because "nuh uh, it wouldn't happen like that"...

>my taste is superior
Nowhere in any of my posts ITT have I even insinuated that my taste was better. Kindly look up the word "opinion" in any search engine you desire. Also, please cope harder.

>I don't hate the concept one bit. I know how to enjoy make-believe because I don't have autism that forces me to tear apart minor shit like "ballistas not firing at Dany's little gathering or the dragon sitting on the ground" because I understand that it's not real. Since I don't have crippling autism, I don't get angry at television shows, I don't feel the need to get angry because I think I know better. That's the reason no one can enjoy shit like this for what it is, every autist has to lose their shit because "nuh uh, it wouldn't happen like that"...
People are interested in having some sort of mental connection to the logic of the world being depicted.

It makes it a lot more fun for people who have functional brains. The "magic" is also always intended to be limited in some interesting way.

I understand that for some people they just like seeing random shit on the screen. That is fine. But that is not Game of Thrones.

Just playing devil's advocate

They blindsided the dragon that was limping around at the start of the episode, probably flying slower than normal.

The dragons can obviously fly pretty fast, prob 100 mph. Euron told them that the last dragons could dodge the shots pretty well point on. And even the wounded dragon took the 2 chest shots and probably would have lived.

It's pretty obvious that even if the dragon died it could have killed Cersei and Euron

>Is it necessary/pre-requisiteral for one to cease emotions, in order for 100% pure logical, rational, and analytical thought to occur?
Is this Bran

>People are interested in having some sort of mental connection to the logic of the world being depicted.
Again user, autism. When I watch a tv show, I don't need to have a "mental connection" or get "emotionally involved", because it's not real. Are you one of those people who fucking cheers at your tv when a character you like does something? Or literally cries when a character dies? If so, then you have fucking autism. Do you leap out of your seat and scream when a character does something unexpected when reading a book? If so then I have some bad news... It's autism. Pic related.

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>just turn your brain off lol

>Again user, autism. When I watch a tv show, I don't need to have a "mental connection" or get "emotionally involved", because it's not real. Are you one of those people who fucking cheers at your tv when a character you like does something? Or literally cries when a character dies? If so, then you have fucking autism. Do you leap out of your seat and scream when a character does something unexpected when reading a book? If so then I have some bad news... It's autism. Pic related.
Lol. It's the opposite. Why are you watching a show that means nothing to you? Waste of time.

What is worthy of your emotional involvement user? I'm curious.

Doesn't matter what I like because it's not important, we're talking about GoT ITT. Are you one of those people that need someone to tell you what to like?

Also, just said that I don't get emotionally involved in tv shows or books.

No, we just want to mock you when you tell us how supersmart, I don't know, Breaking Bad, or the Sopranos was.

>Also, just said that I don't get emotionally involved in tv shows or books.
Right so you are just wasting your time.

Nope, never watched Breaking Bad, and never got past the first couple episodes of The Sopranos because James Gandolfini is fucking annoying

>There was a parley for every significant battle, no matter the power difference
lol

>You don't create 4389274928 screen names with GoT references, blow large amounts of money on GoT merch, or name your children after characters... you're wasting you're time.
lol if you say so.

How much of a doodoohead soiboy are you? A plothole is a problem in a scene that allows a different explanation/scenarios that can give a better intepretation of that scene. You have to be a downie to not recognize these things as a problems and just swallow every drop of D&D's liquid shit writting without questioning wtf you just have watched.

Is it not important because it's not important or because you don't want to risk potential belitting or sounding like a faggot? Because you could have just answered.

For what it's worth, I don't either. I'm just curious.

these are the small ballistae you brainlet, it would b bloody for both sides. not enough reach to kill the dragon

>You can only aim those things towards the air
>they are literally pointed downwards
????????????

>dodging
>fleeing
not the same desu

Subverted. Turns out people didn't want to see the White Walkers kicking ass as had been built up for the entire series, they really want to see a bunch of retarded women make increasingly nonsensical decisions until the one with the strongest plot armor wins.

I- You do understand what an example is, do you?

No one is actually aiming you can assume it'll hit something on the ground at the right angle but it's not made to shoot towards the ground if they wanted to point downwards the guard using would have to hang off of it.

Would have been considered a war crime back in those day. And it wouldn't have stopped Jon's army from raping her to death.

>hundreds of archers with artillery standing on top of a 40 foot wall
>a dragon that could easily be fucked by said artillery and some guys with pikes

Apparently you can't read, otherwise you'd have seen the part where I said the show was garbage. Please pay attention.

I simply do not care what faceless anonymous people think about what I watch, because it's not important. Why would I care if someone said "HURR DURR THAT SUCKS FAGGOT KEKLEL" when it's probably something they also like? It's cheap and easy bait. Also, I ain't going to tell someone what to like, that's just stupid. If you need someone to tell you what to like then you're a fucking numbskull. Make your own decision.

This. i was expect Tyrion to start running for his life at that moment, Cersei and fucking Euron no less just standing there showing mercy, the whole thing was just retarded

Maybe he means in the real world. In the real world you would virtually always send an envoy. It's how they do it in the show so it's whatever. It's the least of my problems.

One thing no one mentions though is how terrified the writers seem to be to flesh out any new characters. The only new characters of any potential substance we've had this season has been Harry and the golden company. Like we don't need to have them all take on their own storylines, but you can have some underlings that actually have a personality without them actually going anywhere in the story by themselves. I'm legitimately not sure if anyone who wasn't already a named character says a single fucking thing in season 8 other than Harry. It makes the world feel dead.

Keep fishing all you want, but this thread is about GoT.

but they wouldnt have done that because uh........... uh...... the dragon..... they surely werent fully prepared and equipped to deal with dragons assault kings landing

yeah, It should have just been between Varys and the Meister, then you could believe they wouldnt care to kill him

Problem is it started so promising but as soon as they couldn't use the book as a base the show went to shit. Some people get mad and who are you to judge them for that?

Coward...

You provoke no feeling.

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Yeah the show is bad, the books are bad, i am bad you are bad, the whole world is bad. The show was great and became bad. Thats what are we are talking about here. Its seems though that you cant get any enjoyment at anything anymore. I think its time user

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>Problem is it started so promising but as soon as they couldn't use the book
The problem started with the books

>The show was great and became bad.
Precisely when was the show great?

No, if you watch something you don't actually care about or want to watch instead of doing things you care about you're wasting your time.

Who cares about your opinion? You don't like anything.

>Subverted. Turns out people didn't want to see the White Walkers kicking ass as had been built up for the entire series, they really want to see a bunch of retarded women make increasingly nonsensical decisions until the one with the strongest plot armor wins.
So true.

What you claim is autism is the exact opposite of autism. Autism often involves lack of empathy, and being able to empathize with characters to the point where you cry at their fictional deaths is direct proof of not being autistic.

>imagine it was a pitfall then they spammed those 3-meter-long toothpics at the last dragon

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There's nothing wrong with watching a show, but you're conflating 'watching something for a little entertainment once a week' and 'being so emotionally invested in it to the point where it consumes you're entire life'. There's a difference, user. Again, if you watch a tv show and you cheer or cry at your tv, run out and buy every bit of merch for it that you can find, start creating usernames with references to it, and nitpicking every minute detail because you think you know better.... then there's a problem.

No, autism only affects cognitive empathy, which means they don't understand the social cues, not that they are unable to feel emotions.
Meaning that an autist has problems understanding that someone is angry or sad by looking and them act, but can be fully empathic if just told outright.

>Would have been considered a war crime back in those day.

War crimes during the middle ages, do you even think before posting ?

*your

How did they even get into that position? Why would they let Daenerys land troops on the mainland with no resistance? Why did they just stop the fleet battle at Dragonstone and go home? Euron or Daenerys should have died there.

No, it's precisely autism. Put an autist in a room with a bunch of toys, he lines them up from largest to smallest, now he thinks they should be sorted. Then, go in there and put one out of the place where he thinks it should be. The resulting temper tantrum with urine and feces is the answer.

>war crime

Cmon son, Cersei blew up the Sept and eliminated house Tyrell not to long ago and nobody in KL or the Reach seems to care.

My opinion? Not sure when the show exactly turned sour to every indivudual, but I start noticting the decline after the episode that nk kills the first dragon. After that it was just a downhill but before that it felt like a genuine good show that didint afraid to go all out. Thats a first imo in the history of TV

Autists frequently suffer also from OCD, but OCD is still a different thing from autism.

>but I start noticting the decline after the episode that nk kills the first dragon.
Oh boy...

Why quote the entire post?

The point is, an autist doesn't like when something happens outside of what they think should happen, hence the creation of this thread. OP lost his shit because the scene didn't play out how he thought it should have.

>doesn't post anything, still stonewalls
Yeah sure you don't care lol

>Jon's army from raping her to death.
Please don't tell me that there's enough people left to invade a fucking castle with the greatest army in the world (the Golden Company) inside it after that whole Winterfell battle was over.

>still fishing
>still don't get the chance to troll
Please cope.

In any case, Jon's going to do that anyway, dead or alive Danerys, so all that changes is that you haven't eliminated some of the enemy forces. With luck, even the dragon, which is their only literal advantage.

The laser/heat tracking ballista system only works on sea.

If my goal was trolling I would have left the moment I saw your post; you're the one that's been sitting in this thread the whole time as far as I can tell. I'm just curious

Euron has a horn which can bind the will of dragons so he has no intention of killing the last one - he wants it for himself.

You must be fun at parties.

Yikes.

Who hurt you?

>If my goal was trolling I would have left the moment I saw your post
Just how new are you?

ambush gives +9000% accuracy

How does he plan on stopping the Lannister soldiers from shooting and killing the last dragon ?

Wasn't that just the books?

>reddit spacing

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Cersei doesn't have ballistas stationed all around the city, right? Drogon should be able to fly around and hit them from the back or the sides. I doubt they can switch directions and aim fast enough to react.

Has the horn been shown in the serie ?

1: Dragon outside range
2: Dany and her men outside range of archers
3: Hitting Dany with one of the ballistas would take a lot of luck
4: If they try and miss, Cersei is toast by dragon within 30 seconds
5: If they try and hit, the result for Cersei is the same, even if Drogon is hit as well he would probably toast Cersei first
6: Cersei does not want to be toast

No need to troll someone who already appears intent on wasting his time, either way you must be pretty involved in this considering your presence in the thread

He'll have armor on top of the plot armor he already has

>still replying
Man, you want it so bad you can taste it.

lol mate, of course she has ballistas all across the city. Otherwise the dragon would be OP

Goodnight, Ill have fun recounting your adventures tomorrow on the way to work

Just curious bro lol

Right. Lucky she didn't provoke Daenerys by killing her best friend in front of her, if getting toastedwas that easy. That would have been a bad move.

GoT marks BOILING

The real shit is the fact they hit the snotty dragon 3/3 when it was going diagonal, then they aimed an entire armada at a dragon going directly at them and missed every shot.

Then they bring Dany and the Dragon to the front gate and they do nothing? You were literally trying to kill her in the last scene.

It's honestly amazing.

I mean, why wouldn't Cersei just kill Tyrion, the guy she hated and had literally sent an assassin after? It's not like filling the midget with arrows would anger Danereys more than she already was after the decapitation.

There is no logical reason for them not firing every balista right there on the spot, none of them would've survived, the dragon isn't fast enough to get off the floor.

JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF BRO

>Night king
>Dragons
>Direwolves
What else was pointless in this series?

And even if the attempt failed miserably... so what? It's not like Cersei was looking for a peaceful resolution anyway. Worst that could happen is that the attack by Dany's forces came earlier than it would otherwise.

>Euron's ships armed with ballistas
>they shoot down one dragon
>Dany charges directly toward the fleet
>they launch again but miss
>Dany and the dragon turn tail and retreat
Why didn't she just fly around behind the fleet and make the dragon burn them from the rear?

The Lord of Light. Lighting a fairly useless trench is all that he provided at the end.

Bran's superpowers.

>attack by Dany's forces
by all of the 72 men they showed in that scene?

Yeah. The danger they presented at that moment wasn't greater than any danger they can present the next episode. So why not try and get them?

Because that would have made sense and D&D cannot have that.
If it had been supposed to make sense, they could have warg-scouted ahead and simply turn up behind the fleet in the first place.

>it's not
It's a fucking abomination.

>It’s not
yes it is. It fucking sucks. And the problem is not gender or skin color.

I saw an interview with David Benioff (actually Friedman) the other day. It just struck me that he's... well, dumb. He makes that hard concentration face when discussing even the simplest matters. It's like he really has to strain his brain about everything. So I looked him up...

He's the rich spoiled kid of a billionaire (literal) Jewish banker, a fucking head of Goldman Sachs, Chairman of New York Federal Reserve Board, Chair of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board, amongst other things.

Fuck everything. Fucking complete hack backed by daddy's billions.

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>war crime back in those day
There were literally putting live children into catapults then hurling them at their enemies walls because it was funny. The Chinese were even worse eating their whole civilian population in a siege because they could. Warcrimes is a very recent thing you dunce

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>1: Dragon outside range
Proof that you haven't watched the episode.
Won't bother reading the rest.

There are about a dozen logical failures in this episode, and you choose to complain about one of the few parts that aren't flawed.

A few ballistas that take half a minute to reload aren't going to hit tiny people from 200 meters away with bolt that are so easy to see coming that you can easily dodge them. And the dragon was out of range a kilometer away. It would take a miracle to hit anything at all. And yes, one such miracle already happened earlier in the episode, but at that time Cersei herself wasn't in the firing line.

Non GoT watcher here
Not bragging, just curious to what the shitstorm is all about? Anyone care to explain why everyone hates this episode?

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The whole point of GoT has been the ruthlessness. People get betrayed and killed off due to slightest mistakes, there is no honor or diplomatic immunity.

However here we see Cersei, someone who kills off people without second thought not killing her biggest and only rival when its 100% safe and 100% certain. Its fucking retarded

Why did Missandre still had her clothes on is what I like to know

>she likes it up the arse

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In other words, people are angry because she has plot armor?

Doesn't that imply she'll take the throne in the end? Or whatever means winning in this TV show

>You idiot you dont have any idea how diplomacy works do you.
Nothing to do with Diplomacy, Cersei just wants to make sure that the combined northern/dothraki/unsullied army is lead by the most incompetent leader possible: Dany

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how did they get away with this on tv? that's clear vag and from behind too

A wonder on how Aegon the conqueror with his 3 dragon. Guess Cersei is really a genius and no one before ever tough of shooting with a balista on a dragon.

by not being prudish mutts?

Maximum shit taste

>spilling guts and caving heads in is okay, millisecond of visible pussy is not

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>how did they get away with this on tv? that's clear vag and from behind too
Why wouldn't have they gotten away with it? Do you live in the US user?

I think they were supposed to be farther back than they looked, but it still doesn’t make sense she didn’t at least kill Tyrion.

>here we see Cersei, someone who kills off people without second thought not killing her biggest and only rival when its 100% safe and 100% certain. Its fucking retarded
Killing Dany and her escort would still leave most of the army intact and under more competent commander

How about that shot looking like ass, though?

If it looks like anything like this ass
im ok with it

SHE CUT MISSANDEIS HEAD OFF.

what the fuck diplomacy is that ?

You're retarded, user. People are pointing out that Cersei doesn't understand diplomacy, and if she were in character during that scene, she'd have killed them all.
Cersei is a character who spent her entire life misreading her father, she thinks he's effective because of his brutality, and completely misses his subtlety. In her shitty attempts to emulate Tywin, she's:
>Resurrected the Faith Militant and gotten herself arrested just to undermine literal allies.
>Blown up the holiest site in the Seven Kingdoms, during the middle of a populist religious revival, because she got outmaneuvered by the High Sparrow
>Gets herself engaged to Euron Greyjoy, a man with an extremely shitty track record, just because she's spent her entire time in power turning allies into enemies
etc.
Cersei is a shortsighted moron, and there's no way she'd allow nearly the entirety of her opposition to walk away unscathed if there weren't any immediate consequences (and there wouldn't have been). Brainlets can defend this shit with "turn your brain off" and "well the whole show would've ended there, then!" That's fine, this scene shouldn't have happened in the first place, there's no way to pull it off without things looking retarded.

please kys

Also, all her children are dead because she's an impulsive, bloodthirsty idiot. Hell, I think the Lannisters as an house are done for. Not only will she lose the Seven Kingdoms for them, she'll also lose The Rock when her family dies out. Because of her. And her retarded brother who also killed family members.

I guess they're showing the dragon backing away scared to explain why they can't kill him but it makes no sense they wouldn't shoot for Daenerys at the very least. Or fuck, what about Tyrion? The fuck is Cersei doing? What a dumb bitch.

Trying to have conversations about this show with my normie girlfriend is absolutely fucking maddening because she thinks watching this show makes her a cool supernerd who likes fantasy but throws a fit if I suggest we try watching LotR next. I tried spelling it out for her exactly what drives me insane about this show:

>Season 1, Ned gets poked with a spear and he's done fighting forever, on a cane until he dies
>Season 5-8, Jon is a fucking anime character taking on entire armies alone and constantly walking out of fights covered in enough arrows to be a living pincushion
>user it's just fantasy it's okay
>It's breaking it's own rules, Anonette
>Yeah but it's cool tho

A real insight to the mind of a normie

>Hey, strangers, I have a girlfriend, just letting you know

A real insight to the mind of a normie

>attempting to explain anything to a female
kek

Those are AA ballistas they can’t aim down

It's a FANTASY show you fucking autist

In chivalry its called the flag of truce or the parlay.

In dramatic script writing it's called tension.

Also feel free to write your own award winning fantasy TV show, the way you want it to be, then get back to us. We'll watch it if you make it.

Fucking tool.

The sad, indisputable truth is that both you and your girlfriend are retarded. A spear in the leg is a far more debilitating injury than a couple of bow-half-drawn arrows in the back muscles.

Why didn't she grab Cersei and jump from a wall?

I liked how at the beginning of episode 4, Jon and others had a small red bump on their forehead. After the greatest battle of all time, apparently.

Or possibly they bumped their heads, after collecting thousands of trees, chopping them up and setting up the funeral pyres, which apparently a handful of people did in one afternoon.

Then it disappeared when they had the party. Including Arya's black eye.

Magic.

why would she bother

she won't recover, let her live in misery

I’m pretty sure ballista has a greater range than the archers disallowing them to ever come close

you forget to drink your basedlet this morning bud?

>Why quote the entire post?
Because it was so true.

While this is retarded logic I truely don’t know how the hell you would aim the things since the controls are like 8ft off the ground when the thing is level

Only to Cersei

>Or possibly they bumped their heads, after collecting thousands of trees, chopping them up and setting up the funeral pyres, which apparently a handful of people did in one afternoon.
Pretty sure they would have had reserves for the long night the were expecting bruh

Do you realize that ballista doesn’t have to hit you directly to kill/injure you?

just turn your brain off

Why he wasn’t raped by Mountain before beheading is another question

Finally an explanation I can get behind

I was joking but you have a point. Wouldn’t be able to aim very high up either.

So shooting at 0-45 deg (medium distance air targets or medium-long distance ground targets) seems like the only viable range.

got show audience ladies and gentlemen of the jury

The show is anti SJW for showing how incompetent women are in position of power. If they put men in the those positions the Kingdom would've been reunited and Westeros would be as powerful as the US compared to the rest of the world.

HOW DID LE EBIN SCIENTIST QYBURN DISAPPEAR AFTER MEL WAS BEHEADED TYRION WALKED PAST HIM REEEEEEE

>be Cersei
>offer a no name sell sword Riverrun in exchange for killing your brother
>have your brother 20ft in front of you with 1000 archers pointing bows at him ready to fire on your command
>order them to stand down

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JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF BRO

Warfare was different back then, you need less precision, just aim at a bunch of armed peasants in the battlefield and pray it will hit.

>THE DRAGON IS OUTSIDE THE BALLISTA RANGE
>NEVER MIND EURON JUST PRIOR BALLISTA'D THE FUCK OUT OF THE DRAGONS FROM BEHIND A FUCKING MOUNTAIN WHILE THEY WERE FLYING EVEN FARTHER IN THE AIR
>HOLD ON LET ME GET MY ONIONS MILK

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Since when does Cersei care about diplomacy? She fucking nuked the high sept.

I hate pol but this post is still gay

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>Since when does Cersei care about diplomacy?
Not as much a diplomatic move but good attempt at enraging the incompetent enemy commander into doing something that will ruin her whole army for Cercei's long term benefit

All mainstream vags is plastered or covered with some sort of tape.

T. Former production assistant

Difference is Cersei wasn't right there in the open and about to get fried if the ballistas missed when they shot at the dragons at Dragonstone, retard. Euron is crazy enough to go for a gamble, and it paid off. Cersei would never risk her life on the low odds of hitting Drogon at that distance.

it's funny how every time someone posts a brainlet meme image, they say something retarded.

Just have your archers approach in a single straight line perpendicular to the ballista bolt's direction of travel so it can only take out one archer per shot

Based
Marvelfags will defend the greenscreen tho

>Just enjoy the pretty colors lmao

because they would have both lived (see Theon and Boy George when they fled Winterfell) which would have ruined the plot even further.

Am I really supposed to believe Daenerys has the advantage here? When Tyrion was begging Cersei to surrender, I expected someone to laugh or something. Cersei has a far more powerful army now, ballistas that can easily take out the dragon and general support from all the southern lords.

I'm expecting some real bullshit to happen next episode.

yeah, leaving a dragon alive is decreasing odds drastically in your favor
you last sentence is highly ironic

Likewise, Missandei could have ended the whole war by just grabbing Cersei and jumping.

>yeah, leaving a dragon alive is decreasing odds drastically in your favor
I guess Cersei and Euron have high confidence of being able to deal with a single dragon will all the ballistas they have

The upside for Cercei of not firing on Dany is that Dany is still the current commander of combined Northener/Unsullied/Dothraki force.. If she was to die, she could only be replaced by someone more competent

Do you lack reading comprehension skills?

>low odds
>when euron fucking quickscoped 180ed a dragon from behind a mountain
whew

please go back
>>/r/eddit

kek

Underage faggot?

Plebbit

Or even just jumping- I mean, it wasn't even that high. A pair of broken legs at worst. Better than having your head chopped off.

Cersei doesn't know she's currently living in a universe operating on deus ex machina, retard. It would logically be near impossible to hit a dragon with ballistas from a kilometer away. Cersei still operates on logic and isn't going to take stupid chances.

Send cavalry regiments out of some other gates to surround them, fire upon them and cut them down as they retreat.

No ones angry, many of us are amused that such a big show has fizzled out into a wet fart.

Did they explain away how they magically time traveled from winterfell to the island all the way to kings landing in no time at all

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I can't believe people are making up excuses for this tripe. Are you being sarcastic? Those scorpions ripped through a ship like it was made from cardboard a hundreds of meters away, after headshotting a Dragon flying at 50mph. There is no excuse

A better attempt at ruining her whole army would've been killing her and her last dragon as well as the leader of their forces and one of their most trusted advisers.

There's literally NO way to justify this scene making sense where Dany walks off unharmed. It's fucking stupid.

@114243160
>obvious bait
>showered in ''You''s

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b-but muh burlington bar reaction videos

Oh no! Somebody got "yous"! Help me, O Grand Ocelot!

I thought people were joking about the coffee cup but turns out it's fucking real lfmao. The absolute state of this shitshow

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This isn't diplomacy this is both sides rejecting a surrender or die ultimatum. Cercsi rejects it by killing a hostage dear to the leader of the opposition. This shows shes ready for all out war, why not kill all the generals and their most powerful military asset right then and there? Its fucked. Things are just happening in a way they can spread it over 6 episodes. The writing is braindead.

>reviving important people is useless

Because the next 2 episodes need to happen. Also, bad screenwriting

Breaking Bad is good.
The Sopranos is not, you are right.

>Diplomacy
>Shoot the dragon, Dany and Grey worm
>In one fell swoop, your enemy lost their ace, their leader and the commander of their elite troops
>Now some people will want Jon on the throne, others won't. Who are the dothrakis going to follow ? Won't they want to go back home now that their queen is dead ? Same for the unsullied.
>If Cersei fired, she would have won the war, and everyone with a brain knows it, but hey you can't, because "muh diplomacy"

post watershed

You don't know the middle ages very well, do you?

>Cersei still operates on logic
Cease posting immediately.

Because ballistas can turn around.
Did you even watch season7?

people don't give a shit about rules or diplomacy in real life
>rules of war forbid attacks on hospitals
>Obama orders his troops to bomb hospitals anyways
>he's awarded with the nobel peace prize

>Dabid, get the crayons

Parley CANNOT be used as an excuse either. She has a dragon you can tell the people that she was a threat to their existence and people would be hey yeah you're right #gocersie

If you don't believe me that this would work. See the Iraq war.

Underrated comment.

How many vags did you cover with some sort of tape?

>Snow = Rock

don't try to impress anyone with logic when talking GoT

cersei blew up the sept when invited for a hearing, do you think she gives a single fuck about diplomacy and how people perceive her? dumb phoneposter

You faggot the episode ended before the end of the scene indicating for all you know your stupid question is answered at the start of the next ep

I mean, Balerion was collosal. Like about 3 times the size of Drogon, and really damn aggressive. I imagine those ballista shots would piss him off about as much as the arrows hurt Drogon. Also, Aegon understood that you don't win a war outright with Dragons, you need to stop fighting and win battles diplomatically.

All of this has made me realise I want a Conquest show, from the perspective of King Torrhen and the Kings of the Rock and Reach, hiding the dragons till the end of season one with the Field of Fire.

Never, make up artists do that

Yeah, and not only when talking GoT I guess.
>Sad days

what the fuck is this post