I just saw this, it was phenomenal

American animators are liberal cucks, women, fags and trannies from california

boomer compares a full length movie to tv shows

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It's not like the Jap are making Akira tier animation anymore. Now, someone post the webm of them painting the skyscraper lights.

>degraining
>cleaning up
You cannot apply DNR schemes without removing fine detail

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Why do Yea Forums teens make these cinemalet threads here and not on Yea Forums where they belong?

be thankful they didn't blacked cinderella yet.

Wtf!? Why would they do this?

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What does Yea Forums have to do with anything? This thread isn't about comics

Yea Forums hates good animation. they are bunch of trannies who realize they will never be anything so they hate based jap kino

Seething

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i feel like kino anime like akira, GITS and studio ghibli stuff has concepts simply too complex for the american audience to understand, you also have to take into consideration that dubbing removes a lot of detail from the script and americans dont like reading subs because pic related

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>jap kino
What did you think of Monday?

Just look at what Japan is releasing this year: pure kino with soul. They’re going to win the Oscar next year, no doubt about it.

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>implying japan can make animation of this quality anymore
This is the result of a passion project and funded by money before the Japanese market crash in the 90s. I really doubt any studio in Japan could produce something of equal quality today.

T. American here.
Can confirm majority of counts wouldn't even think of watching a sub and get their japanamation fix from nu-toonami

>This is the result of a passion project and funded by money before the Japanese market crash in the 90s. I really doubt any studio in Japan could produce something of equal quality today.
The budget for Akira was about 20 million dollars today. Is this alot of money for japs?

At least they haven't given up completely but you're right we'll never see animation like this ever again.

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A lack of standards directed by consumers, and a lack of talented people (largely because they're not trained well enough, or incentivized enough to be skilled)

Animation is expensive, especially the best kind, and it doesn't have to look very good for most people to buy into it. The artwork can have close to no skill but with enough polish in the right places, the audience genuinely can't tell. So you basically have a group with the largest buying potential (people with shit taste, usually kids nowadays in the west) that is determining the direction of the industry. Because the suits in charge lack any artistic integrity this is seldom a real problem for them, as long as shit gets sold a drop in quality isn't a big issue.

Unfortunately it seems to be an issue in Japan now too, if I'm not wrong there's been a degradation in standards for the past 10-20 years or so.

jesus christ

Sure champ:
youtube.com/watch?v=Sst-reJ-Y4M

This is a crime

No chance
youtube.com/watch?v=fc9Rwzgs61I

Akira cost a fuckload of money, that's why

Because western media is controlled by jews. They only care about profit and subversion.

>Akira cost a fuckload of money, that's why
20 million dollars in today's money?

Patlabor 2 > Ghost in the Shell > Akira
love all

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SEVEN YEARS HAND DRAWN

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Bump
Why talk about whats kino when you haven't even seen actual "jap kino", Yea Forumseddit tourist?

TETSUO

KANEDA

Yeah, spending the equivalent of $20mm 2019 USD on Chinese cartoons in Japan in the late 80s is a fucking ridiculous proposition, and it's a god-given miracle that Akira ever got made. I'm sorry that you are a zoomer with no sense of economic proportion, or history, or culture.

>Yeah, spending the equivalent of $20mm 2019 USD on Chinese cartoons in Japan in the late 80s is a fucking ridiculous proposition, and it's a god-given miracle that Akira ever got made. I'm sorry that you are a zoomer with no sense of economic proportion, or history, or culture.
But why?

This was also back in the days when you could overwork animators and pay them pennies.

Not only could you not get $20m today, but it wouldn't even come close to covering the costs.

Because that amount of money would no longer pay for the work Akira required. Your argument is that you could take $20mm USD over to Japan right now and get something on the level of Akira made again. You can't. Salaries have grown, and you wouldn't be able to raise that kind of capital for feature-length anime in the first place. It's actually kind of crazy they were able to do so for Akira, and kind of crazy that it actually turned out to be profitable.

>posts japanese film made by japanese people
>america america america
also we made blade runner, which this film copies, have sex.

Assuming of course you managed to procure hundreds of talented traditional animators for several years to work on it.

>akira
overrated besides animation for its time

>overrated besides animation for its time
But why else would you watch it?

Also this, you're drawing on a rivaled-only-by-classic-Disney talent pool.
Even if you were right, that's not a bad thing

That movie was animated at 24 frames per second. Most animation is half that framerate, 15 frames or so. Akira doubled the production budget but looks amazing. The reason why no one else does that is because it's too expensive. No one does traditional animation at all anymore because it's so expensive. Everything is done on computers now. Akira was also full animation. Almost all animation these days is limited animation. Again, that's no longer practiced because it's too expensive. So there's your reason.

If you like Akira check out Venus Wars. The story is nowhere near as good but the animation is pretty kino.

youtu.be/w4nybAZV5Js

That's exactly what this faggot does and he acts like he's preserving the film.

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>The story is nowhere near as good but the animation is pretty kino.
I love those ridiculously large tanks.

blade runner looks like shit though.

I’ve tried over the years is it streaming in full length anywhere?

I saw this on Saturday for the first time after having it on DVD for like 6 years
Can't believe it took me so long to watch

www5 dot animeseries dot co

just use the search bar, the 5 goes in the adress

CANADAAAA

I don’t think Metropolis gets enough love
youtu.be/QkIIIfARC0s

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they still overwork animators for pennies

Unironically, Newgrounds has negatively affected the animation industry in America.
If you weren't around for it, Newgrounds animation was huge. The popular ones were getting millions of views and even shitty ones were getting tons of views.
Don't get me wrong, there was a lot of good stuff on there. The problem is is that the style was good for short form videos and not full length features or series.
So we have an entire generation of animators extremely good in a very niche style.
Think about it. Adventure Time, one of the most popular animation series of the past decade, is short form and very clearly influenced by Newgrounds.

>burger can't make good animation
We used to be the kings of animation and still have a strong legacy within animation.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Like pic related which the typical Yea Forums nigger hasn't seen.

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looks ugly as hell

You realize Akira was animated at 24 cells per second where as most anime and western animation is only 12 cells per second?

If you're really into the animation aspect of Akira, then you should check out Spriggan.
A film very few westerners have seen. It has superb animation and the story definitely has some similarities to Akira.
When it came out in '97 (I think), the marketing strategy in Japan was to call it Akira 2.0. That should give you some idea of what you're in for.

Watch Jin-Roh

These are both patrician choices.

Promare is gonna be fucking great, I can tell.

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Do people still care about Angry Birds?

Soul vs Soulless

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I didn’t watch the anime version of GITS until like a week before I went to watch the live action version at the cinema (which btw I enjoyed, I thought it had great music, stylisation and visual aesthetics also it paying homage to a number of scenes from the anime version)

Fish in air?

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Penguin Highway was really good.

He should have fucked the lady, though. Kid missed out.

I think fucking her was his primary motivation.

Yeah, but he didn't do it when he had a chance and he might not get another one.

>also we made blade runner, which this film copies
are you retarded? this and blade runner have nothing in common except for being cyberpunk.

Consider the following.

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Because they're too busy dicking around with CGI.

Uhh, they're literally the same movie?
>tall buildings
>Japanese everywhere
How is it not a ripoff?

Thank God Branagh had the good judgement to just do his own thing with the live action Cinderella.
Only good live action Disney remake to date.

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Mother if fuck, this is hand-drawn?
I need to finally watch Patlabor

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Top tier, what's bottom right?

macross plus is absolute eye candy if you haven't seen it. It was also directed by the dude that directed cowboy bebop

Of

Yes, that's hand drawn. Prime Oshii was a god.

Atlantis the Lost Empire.

What's the unicorn wave movie?

Agreed

The Last Unicorn.

Good shit, no idea how I didn't catch that one.

The Last Unicorn, the movie you will be watching tonight.
youtube.com/watch?v=K8ClxCGA1SI

I'm an idiot. How did I not remember that Oshii did this?

Because they began outsourcing to japan because it was cheaper.
Japanese animators are paid very poorly.

Last Unicorn was a joint Japanese production.
Same story with Little Nemo, which had fucking phenomenal animation, too.

I wish westerners did improve on animation.
A lot of people may not like Gumball, but no one can say that there wasn't effort involved in the animation process involved.
Western animation is capable of really amazing things that can be on the same quality of or even surpass Japanese animations if there was only a market for it.

youtube.com/watch?v=BMqpU7lUlLg

Never saw Little Nemo.

I loved The Illusionist.

nips always lose the oscar to the latest disney shovelware, never gonna happen

Illusionist had some beautiful play of light in it.

youtube.com/watch?v=MIweiW20eE4It's definitely aimed at kids, but then shit like this happens. The nightmare scenes in general are where the animation really shines.

the only way an anime will win an oscar again is if it gets a wide release in the US so all the judges kids want to go and see it

Here's the whole thing.
youtube.com/watch?v=wRs4Y3Kzdt0

Is there anyone in Japan that isn't paid poorly?

Mia Farrow's voice is like pure sex, even if she tries her best not to sound sultry.

voice actors

Jpop stars and the Emperor. Maybe male porn actors

Shadows of a long-gone era

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Did he explain the film other than "it's me losing my faith"?

I don't think there's an objective explanation to it.

The director? No idea, but I think it's about faith, believer vs non-believer and the girl being reborn as a saint.

KEI

Illusionist convinced me to make another 3x3 but my I'm too much of a weeb to put more western animation on here.
Someone with actual taste please share good movies on my behalf.

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>tfw we will never get an insane Final Fantasy game that takes after Amano's artstyle directly

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1:34:35 is when the kino starts.

Why was that movie a failure?

>Disney movie
>has Mike Mignola's designs and looks nothing like a Disney movie
>not a musical
I guess.

Tomb Raider came out the same day and Shrek was still dominating the box office.
That said it made 1.5x its budget, so it probably broke about even. Critics didn't like it was the biggest problem.

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the only shit that ever made me feel like angel egg did was the kings field/souls games where it always seemed like you were showing up right at the end of an era when everything was already broken beyond repair and you had to look into the background for details on what was actually happening. I don't know why this bullshit is so kino, perhaps that puts the imagination to work

Add Patlabor 1 > at the beginning and we are in agreement.

Watched it for the first time like last week after finding out about it randomly, really loved the old style animation.

Ghibli films are some of the few anime I can tolerate with dubs. Except maybe the Wind Rises, Anno is so fitting somehow
also check these dubs

>not a musical
Any other examples of a genre or series dropping ratings as soon as they got good?

Well from around the same time they had Treasure Planet as well.

why are american cartoons always at an angle?

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And that premiered alongside Harry Potter 2.
It also wasn't nearly as good as Atlantis.

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Jesus everything looks the same.

Cal Arts and faggots ruined American animation.

There's literally nothing wrong with angles. This is a good one, for example.

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My guess is because it's a way to show side-by-side dialogues without having everyone speak in profile at the same time. The classic B^Uckley method.