>I used the stones to destroy the stones! Somewhere out there is an alternate reality where Endgame is a good movie in which Thanos fights to maintain control of the stones - and in that better timeline the new shitpost on Yea Forums is "Why didn't Thanos just use the stones to destroy the stones?"
here in our shitty reality that's the premise to the actual movie
I knew I was going to be disappointed after that whole scene. Whatever, people are so braindead now that you can make the shittiest plot possible and it will still make profit
Jacob Morales
>tfw the leaks were better Thought it was going to be a cap movie, but it ended up being an Iron Man movie. War Machine didn't sacrifice himself in a blaze. Nor did they really do much actually. Nova Corp didn't even come. Hela didn't come with her army of undead. Thor didn't rebuild Asgard in space and have a huge army.
Jordan Hughes
He accomplished his goal. He did what he set out to do.
It's the difference between Loki and Thanos.
Loki lost because he lacked conviction. Thanos had it.
He was so resolute in his belief that destroying the stones was the only logical step. Keeping them around would give his enemies a chance to undo it.
Caleb Edwards
>Avengers >They can't get revenge because the enemy kills himself its stupid and boring a lotr spinoff where frodo rides eagles to mt doom is better
Ethan Cooper
That's the whole point of the movie. Thanos won and it broke the team. They had no hope.
>I know what it's like to lose; to feel so desperately that you're right and fail none the less.
Jason Miller
>give his enemies a chance to undo it. which is exactly what happened anyway
John Moore
>Keeping them around would Or gee idk, just make it canon that the stones cant destroy themselves Any and all logic about what Thanos would or should do completely changes and you get a better movie while you're at
Thanos wanted to die after the death of Gamora so he destroy the stones so they couldn't undo the snap. "What did it cost?" "Everything".
Jayden Evans
why didn't he make sure to murder the Avengers and anyone who could oppose him? He had the infinity stones just do the 50% of people + All of the Avengers or was that too much for the infinity gauntlet?
Jeremiah Bell
Odd how multi billion dollar movie isn't discussed anywhere.
Angel Cook
>intentionally setting themselves up with timetravel but WHY
Justin Gray
What is that? What is happening to her face?
Sebastian Taylor
the whole time travel thing got convoluted and then shits on its own rules
the directors clearly know nothing aboot time travel
James Butler
I'm just sick of time travel and characters not able to live with results. I'm sure it's like Star Wars will do it for Episode IX to a degree as well. Some newly discovered force power.
Mason Wilson
Killing the heroes with the snap was the problem. They should have killed off "lesser" heroes with ties to the main protagonists (Bucky for Cap, War Machine for Iron Man, other people for who fucking ever), and focused on the devastation of the world and the people looking at the Avengers as failures in the wake of the world's population being halved. The moment you introduce time travel and altenate realities you've firmly made death unimportant in your story. These grand, 'infinite' eternal stones? Fuck it, just go get more in a new dimension. It's stupid. They should have ushered in death and stuck with it. Let the next phase be the new Avengers struggling to adapt in the wake of a broken world.
Bentley King
He permanently destroyed the tools he used to temporarily fix a problem. Makes sense.
Owen Reed
But destroying the stones was the smart thing to do so his snap was definite He knew that they might come back, and this time more prepared than ever and he was right. He was right because they pretty much rekt him, if he had the stones in his hand at that time then the avengers would've gotten them back and snapped. Destroying the stones was the perfect plan he just wasn't counting on time travel shenanigans.
Aiden Collins
Like is Thanos just dumb despite all of his grandstanding and composure and will? 50 percent can be recovered in one generation. Maybe if you snapped 99% of all sentient live you'd have delayed something for a while, but the timeline of life will mean even that action can be reversed, in maybe 100k years?
Cooper Carter
And by the way How's this for pottery: Tony Stark in Age of Ultron wanted to prepare for Thanos, and later in Infinity War found himself woefully unprepared. In End Game Thanos prepared for the coming of the Avengers by destroying the stones but with Captain Marvel he found himself woefully unprepared
Cooper Diaz
Their time travel is based on planck physics which might actually be a possible form of time travel since planck supercedes all concepts in the universe.
Anthony Flores
Has there ever been a story that was improved after introducing time travel? Not stories that were about time travel right from the start, let's put those aside and focus on stories that were primarily about something else but eventually included time travel, has this EVER resulted in a positive outcome?
Asher Ross
>we don't understand very small things so magic is possible I'm glad we are having this serious 150+ IQ conversation.
Lucas Ward
well not from lack of trying
Jose Brown
if stealing the stones from the past and causing alternate timelines was a result but not effecting your own timeline then why bother returning the stones at all if it's not gonna create a butterfly effect.
we know that there is an infinite amount of realitys for any possible choice we could have made in life
if cap went back in time to live his life in the current timeline and grow old how did no one ever notice there were 2 caps, he was a popular face, this whole part of the timetravel shits it's self
so is it time travel or alternate reality jumping? if the directors cant explain it then its just nonsense
Cooper White
Dude, u didn't get what they did in the movie. The only one that mentioned that the thing was a time Machine and named the operation as Time Heist was Antman, even Tony Stark LOLed at this. What they did was invade an alternate universe that matched their past (when Tony simulated his GPS of time the screen even showed that if the other timeline is 99.8% or so like is good to go) that's why Nebula 2023 killed Nebula without consequences
Eli Ramirez
then like i said why bother returning the stones if it isnt "time travel"
even tho they return the stones they still caused those other reality to be fucked(like loki getting away)and making the ancient ones argument pointless
Adrian Ross
I didn't mind IW.
This movie was absolutely terrible.
It was so inconsistent, it blows my mind people even enjoyed passed the first 20 minutes. I was about to walk out.
Justin Walker
So Captain America was old in a different Universe from the main one?
lol wut
Eli Baker
Time travel is basically the "going to space" version of marvel, since they've already gone to space. It's really scraping the bottom of the barrel when you give yourself the ability to retcon whatever fuck ups you made in previous movies and make it popular in the process. You're basically banking you movie on Previous movies you already made at that point, cashgrabbing galore
Henry Richardson
So now in their reality they brought everyone back but all the stones are gone, didn't Bald Wizard Bitch tell Hulk that the stones are important for making reality not fall apart or something? If so aren't they still fucked since the stones are gone?
Isaac Gonzalez
They're really going to have to answer this one. Major hole.
Joshua Sullivan
My guess is they just filmed a bunch of extra footage during a bunch of other movies, mostly the other avengers movies, than just made up a stupid time travel story to stick it all together since they never really thought of a beginning and an end.
I don't know why people liked this movie. Time travel was inconsistent. Thanos' power was inconsistent. Everyone's personality was inconsistent. Captain Marvel was a terrible actor. The story was lazy, everything that happened was completely predictable. Hawkeye's storyline made absolutely no sense. He was Ronan for a few days, gave it up immediately, and no one went after him for killing hundreds of people?
The 'muh womyn' scenes were just forced way to hard...
Even "The Snap" isn't the actual action required to use the gauntlet, it has nothing to do with it.. He just did that. Pretty sure it just works on will power... And the snap isn't what hurt Thanos… using the infinity stones isn't deadly... he hurt himself destroying them.
And Tony can just build an Infinity Gauntlet of equal quality to some blacksmith of the Gods who uses the power of the sun? Oh FFS....
Isaiah Flores
Captain America brought them back to their specific points in time, before he stayed... which makes no sense, because unless there's two captain America's now and he never visited his GF in the hospital..? Yah what? This whole fucking movie...
Ethan Morales
Most of the stones are used in the various movies to resolves various crises. That is what she was referring to. They are not inherently important to maintaining reality. I'm pretty sure this is explicitly stated in the film, and if not it's easy to infer.
Leo Walker
Baldie: You absolutely MUST bring back the Time Stone or absolutely terribad shit will happen to my universe and it will be super fucked forever Hulk: did I mention we destroyed the thing in our universe and nothing happened at all and it's been like five years
Hunter Wilson
Calm down there Zack Snyder
Isaiah White
Spoken like a true parasite. Your altruism is a weakness. In this world, only the strong survive. Are you man or superman? That's, like, deep philosophy by some guy in some book someone told me about.
Cap creating a new timeline where he lived a long life. He returned to his original reality from the future where making cross dimensional jumps is doable