OHHH NO NO NONONONO

Look at this angelic face - can such a man ever have anything but well-being of the Republic in his heart? even after he was disfigured by fundamentalist religious zealots he still served for the good of all beings in the galaxy.

It's too late Disney, you killed it. I don't know how but you killed fucking STAR WARS.

They're going to make new Star Wars movies every year until you like it.

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>Rian Johnson still has a career and hasn't committed sudoku yet
My expectations are already being subverted. Truely these are masters of the craft.

I don't like this image.

who gives a shit, fuck off

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Friendly reminder that Frozen II is going to be kino and will blow this garbage out of the water

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Bet disney is going back on this decision

That depends on the reception the rest of GoT gets.

Disney likes to keep pedos around, which is why they got James Gunn back.

mmmmm oniichan, subvert me right in my expectations

Another pair of twistmasters as powerful as Rian - the writers of Game of the Thrones tv series.

Anyone else dreading argueing with the next generation about why NuWars sucks?

They will subvert the shit out of my expectations with one shit surprise after the other.

What is the appeal of Frozen?

>Rian Johnson still has a career and hasn't committed sudoku yet
Why would he? He gets on twitter and jerks his micropenis to every tweet criticizing TLJ

Good.
I can't wait for Star Wars to finally die.

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>the old republic done by rain and D&D

Oh god no please no don’t ruin revan he’s the last good thing in Star Wars

They readys stole his look for Kylo

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Found a pic of him

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How well would kyoani do with an 8 season anime adaptation of ASOIAF?

The subversion will be so extreme that will result in pic related in space.

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Elsa

Anime hasn’t people screaming and weeping too much I had to quit attack on titan because of all the screaming and weeping it was awful

the unholy trinity of subverted expectations

Explain to me why they hired these guys to write Star Wars movies, it's pretty obvious they suck at writing, GoT isn't their invention. So if they were just directors that would be acceptable I think. But just like JJ and Rian who can't write for shit, they're hiring awful writers. Why are they doing this? is it because it's cheaper or is it because Kathleen Kennedy can mess with the story more easily than if real writers were involved?

>dropping attack on kino
youtube.com/watch?v=VUySqz10MQQ

Because they wrote and produced GOT and GOT makes shitloads of money, so to the soulless corporate execs at Lucasfilm and Disney they figured that D&D would make GOT money for SW if they brought them on board. They didn't think any deeper than that.

they wrote shit that normies liked so the mouse hired them to do it again

Capeshit, GoT and Star Wars form the nucleus of our trash entertainment

Make shit and spray it with gold. A typical Steve Jobs move.

Tried to flush but my toilet is clogged by three huge piles of shit.

They are all three going to die in a helicopter/plane crash.

>they wrote shit that normies liked so the mouse hired them to do it again
This. Is really that simple. See Emilia in Solo.

TFA and TLJ especially divided people a lot, that's why Disney hired JJ back for the last one...so it makes sense for Disney to hire those 2 to write on large franchise and do something mainstream as fuck while slightly going off route.

D&D + Old Republic lore would unironically be based

It's not like they have a tough act to follow either. They are bad writers but the scenes they wrote between Arya and Tywin were better than any dialogue any Star Wars film ever.

>Old Republic
>Everything is basically the exact same in the past as is in the future
Fuck off Yea Forumsedditor.

Elsa and Anna

A recipe for Armageddon

Yeah, that's something that's always bothered me about KOTOR. I imagine the reason why bioware wrote it that was was because they basically just wanted to have a star wars setting but without any of the baggage of tying into the rest of the lore, so they set it so long ago that it becomes a blank slate. But the issue then is that they've rendered the SW universe this static thing that never changes and it just makes everything overall seem futile and meaningless.

GO DABID! GO OUT AND SUBVERT TO THE EXTREME!

checked

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>They are bad writers but the scenes they wrote between Arya and Tywin were better than any dialogue any Star Wars film ever.
>"I don't like Dragons. They are coarse and rough and irritating and the fire they breath gets everywhere."
Not that good desu, it also felt stale

I actually always liked that it reinforced the fantasy aspect of Star Wars that it’s the same for incalculable periods of time.

Like GOT and Lotr are the same with the same monarchs and nations lasting for insane thousands and thousands of years

KATHLEENKENNEDY

IVE COME TO BARGAIN

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>Because they wrote and produced GOT and GOT
>they wrote shit that normies liked so the mouse hired them to do it again
Isn't it safe to say that GRR MARTIN stories is the reason it was actually popular. And then when they started filling up with their own ideas it turned to shit. So it's safe to say it's not their writing that audiences liked. Are Disney people too dumb to understand that?

There will be no more Star Wars after Star Wars IX - The Force Awakens II: Return of the Jedi 2.0.

The Disney-app series Mandalorian and Rogue -1 will be the last. The fact Disney recycled unfinished Clone Wars episodes speaks volumes about the state of DisneyLucasfilm.

>"It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it."

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>Are Disney people too dumb to understand that?
Yes

See, that's something about fantasy settings that I've always hated, how everything is in total stasis and thousands upon thousands of years back, nothing has changed. and even then, it's not so bad in standard high fantasy, because technological progress has been exponential recently, but was much slower during the bronze age, iron age, classical era, etc. It's much harder to suspend my disbelief when it's a high tech society and the only thing that's changed after thousands of years is that the star destroyers have slightly different shapes.

LOOOOOOOOOOL

holy shit, these fucking hacks will produce the biggest, stinkiest drop of rancid shit the world have ever seen and the plebs will lick it up like ice cream. Imagine how bad that will be

movie about white people in 2019

My niggas.

True, the way KK spoke about the next ten years of SW movies was highly suspicious to me. they're just faking confidence in the brand, but the brand is dead and those TV shows are extremely low budget. The mandalorian clips looked pretty cheap. Even Bob Iger didn't even try to lie, he said there was a hiatus which contradicts KK's BS. They're making billions with capeshit, why did they have to take SW and ruin it?

Soon

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>They're making billions with capeshit, why did they have to take SW and ruin it?
To spread their politics

Yeah I get you but think, if Disney would have fun with BioWare a lore of the old republic they still get to do all the fan services shit that Star Wars plebs want to see like lightsabers and x wings etc etc while having free reign to make any charectrs and any stories without concern for making it consistent with the original films.

They really fucked up trying to make sequels

What if D&D subvert Rian's subversion, cancelling eachother out, and we get a story that it's told straight.

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>if Disney would have fun with BioWare a lore of the old republic
They would rape it

The real story:

>Rian Johnson's trilogy has been canceled so they made up a job for him on the trilogy that probably won't kill the franchise forever.

By this point, pulling subversion and twists like Shaymalan is so commonplace that being straightforward itself is a twist.

This is like The Avengers of talentless hacks.

>"Perhaps you were expecting some surprise, for me to reveal a secret that had eluded you, something that would change your perspective of events, shatter you to your core. There is no great revelation, no great secret. There is only you."

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indeed, the twist is that there is no twist. this is the most shocking twist of all!

Was thinking that as well.
Play a story/characters straight would actually be subversive by today's standards.

So who would D&D cast as Kreia?

What is the nature of their collaboration? We don't even know if they're making tv shows or movies. i bet Disney is just testing waters and watching our reaction. I bet they're getting really nervouse after the GoT fans response.

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>implying they & the Mouse can portray a woman so negatively as the openly manipulative liar Kreia
It'd be Jake all over again.

>the trilogy that destroyed Yea Forums once and for all

Every day until you like it.

I think it's testament to how bankrupt hollywood is creatively. They've resorted to "expectations subverted" as a hot go-to gimmick that people want. These guys are the lead purveyors of that hack tripe.

>Hollywood has become nothing but Shyamalan

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You know I feel like the one thing that will come back and bite Disney and Lucas film in the ass is how these current films will hold up in the long run
I mean like I’m a bit doubtful the sequel trilogy, spinoff movies like rouge one and any other future films they make will have the same kind of long lasting cultural impact or staying power as the original trilogy
Like 20 or 30 years after episode 9 comes out are people really going to be super nostalgic for these current films to the same extent people right now are like with the trilogy? Or be declared as must see films and still be really profitable after all that time like the original as well?
Or better yet will the Disney characters like Rey, Finn, Rose or Holdo become as iconic and popular as characters like Luke, Leia or Solo in the long term?
Just to point out something more recent I’ve seen videos and articles talking about Star Wars toy sales being down or declining recently

Kar Vastor: *"I have known Jedi. Many, many years ago. That knowing was not a gladness for me. I believed I would never know another, and I rejoiced in that belief. But it is a gladness for me to be proven wrong. I am happy to have known you, Jedi Luke Skywalker. You are more than they were."

Luke:" That's—I mean, thanks, but I barely know anything."

Kar Vastor: "So you believe. But I say to you: you are greater than the Jedi of former days."

Luke: "What makes you say that?"

Kar Vastor: "Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker… you are not afraid of the dark."

Unironically, what the fuck were they thinking? Three of the biggest hacks coming together, it's almost meme magic

>What is going through Kathleen Kennedy's mind at this EXACT moment?

Sadly, not 10,000 volts.

No offense, but what you wish for is stupid. Exponential tecnhical progress by the very definition of "exponential" can only be a thing for very historically short periods of time. The only question is, will it stop before a technological singularity which will make civilization utterly unrecognizable and unrelatable to humans? Will it stop before megastructures weaponising whole starsystems, planets of antimatter thrown around at FTL speeds, fleet battles playing out in microseconds and other crazy shit that operates by logic no longer remotely resembling anything seen on the Earth? Safe to say, any space setting which purpose is having some adventures in space, and particularly adventures on screen answers "yes" to both.

And well, there answers means that the progress HAS to plateau somewhere not very high, tecnhologies no longer developing, only applications adapting to circumstances.

>What is going through Kathleen Kennedy's mind at this EXACT moment?

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>What is going through Kathleen Kennedy's mind at this EXACT moment?
HONK HONK

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why didn't they give it to Gareth Edwards?
At least Rogue One wasn't actively hated

In all seriousness, it's because Kennedy doesn't know how to pick directors. She just picks whoever is "hot" in the moment, and then goes back to eyefucking herself on social media. She never directed, she was the glorified office manager for her husband, who was a director, and know how to hire one.
I can almost guarantee you Ron Howard was brought in by Disney, not her choice - her choice for Solo fucked up. Her entire tenure has been making horrific choices for directors, and every movie made under her "leadership" has had problems, going back to Rogue One, where Edward's first attempt required reshoots to salvage it.

So of course she hired those two boobs, so they can market anything they do as "By the directors of Game Of Thrones", and it looks good on her Twitter that she's connected now to the hottest TV show.
All you have to see is her choice of JJ Abrams, that the actual quality of the movies means nothing to her. She's an incompetent twat who's sinking what should have been an easy slam dunk for anyone else. How hard is it to fuck up Star Wars? It's space opera. It practically writes itself.
Kennedy is in the running for unseating Amy Pascal as "Most Incompetent Woman Studio Exec Ever". And I have a gut feeling Iger's replacement at Disney is going to be a woman - which is good, Disney is too powerful now, they need a good stick price collapse and selling off the divisions, which will free them from the tyranny of the Mouse.

>rian subverts
>d&d subvert the subversions
is this like a double negative thing so the movie turns out good or is it like a double the shit thing so the movie turns out even worse than with just rian alone at the helm?

The real shame is that Lucas set up his company in Northern California, to keep away from the Hollywood bullshit, because they all rejected him in the beginning. He was always an outsider.
Kennedy opened the doors wide to Hollywood bullshit day one she was promoted. She's a whore.

>grace the big screen
>disgrace the big screen
FTFY

just fuck any interest in this series up senpai

oh dear god NILES!

Obsessed incel

Because Edwards fucked up, hard, on his own.

slashfilm.com/rogue-one-reshoots-problems-tony-gilroy/

Star Wars has been struggling since George sold.

>Kennedy is in the running for unseating Amy Pascal as "Most Incompetent Woman Studio Exec Ever"
Lucasfilm email leaks when

>What is going through Kathleen Kennedy's mind at this EXACT moment?

One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.

The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.

Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.

"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"

"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.

"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"

Now this seemed to make sense to the frog, so he agreed to take the scorpion across the river.

He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown.

Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.

"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.

Well, only Disney knows what Rogue One original cut looked like.
If Disney didn't liked it and hired Gilroy to do the movie they wanted, good for them it made shit ton of money... but we'll never know what we lost. Could definitely have been more original than what we got.

So why did he, a filthy rich man, sell it to them? Did they blackmail him or sth? Probably legitimately thought it was in good hands at Disney lol

I'm guessing they were trying for a while. Also I can understand that Lucas got tired of the years of shitstorm after the prequels. Wouldn't you want to move on to something else at 74 ?

George Lucas was already slowing down when the prequels were made. That's half the reason they're so shitty - he used CGI so he wouldn't have to do the difficult location shoots. He probably realised he was never going to make the sequels, and that he would have to sell the franchise to someone.

Disney probably baited him by saying they were going to carry on his vision, and kept dangling larger and larger amounts of cash in front of him until he finally fell for it. Also, you've got to remember that everyone in the upper echelons of Hollywood knows everyone else. I'm sure plenty of people Lucas has worked with over the years have moved on to Disney - he probably thought they'd be able to handle it.

honestly, pretty much this. They just can't help themselves.

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I expect my expectations to be subverted.

>he used CGI so he wouldn't have to do the difficult location shoots
What

Filming the original Star Wars was a nightmare because the Tunisian desert kept wrecking props and equipment. One of Lucas' main motivations for developing better greenscreen technology was so that he'd never have to shoot outside again - which was really driven home when the Phantom Menace experienced the same difficulty shooting in the desert. After that, he always pushed for green screen no matter what, whether it made sense or whether the technology was good enough or not.

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
-George Lucas

>lying on Yea Forums

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How does that explain all the in-studio sets or all the on-location shots of from palaces in Italy to a team for Mount Edna for an eruption?

Dunno. Probably burned out, and realized one day, "Hey, i'm rich, I don't need this shit."

was lucas there on set on-location or did he send his second?

People gave M Night Shamwow a lot of shit for tweests but at least his tweests were set up and and not just "We will do things to shock the audience even if they make no sense to the narrative. we are subverting expectations"

If I follow the lead of Abrams and Johnson, I keep adding mystery boxes to create complexity in my story. But do I subvert expectations by actually revealing the contents of the box?

I'm not saying Lucas was able to cut out location shoots entirely, I'm just saying that's part of the reason behind his preference for CGI. Read up on how shooting the original Star Wars went down. Lucas nearly had a nervous breakdown because the studio was constantly breathing down his neck, nobody believed in the project, and the Tunisian climate kept undermining his already precarious position. Then when it happened again (albeit on a much more minor scale) during the filming of the Phantom Menace, he was just like 'well fuck this shit'.

Is this real? Why are these hacks being rewarded?

>Rian is back
I'm so glad he's back to finish the job off for good.
RELEASE US RIAN, BURN IT DOWN, BURN IT DOWN, BURN IT DOWN

because we live in a clown world

>one sided account from biased parties
How do you know the original cut wasn't superior and hacks at Lucasrfilm just can't tell the quality of the film?

>RoS
it was p good and performed well iirc

This but unironically

Rian Johnson’s Star Wars project is 100% cancelled. Disney (and Johnson) are pretending it’s not because it causes further harm to the brand to go public with it. That’s why they flipped out when that blogger said it was canceled. Because it wasn’t supposed to be publicly revealed during the current brand recovery period

>Read up on how shooting the original Star Wars went down.
I did. And I read about the locations & shooting on all Lucas' Star Wars films.

Well that's an interesting solution to the problem of "no way in hell are we letting him make a trilogy now but we can't actually ever admit that" I didn't expect.
Bravo, Yidsney. Now that series can be triply terrible.

>Disney (and Johnson) are pretending it’s not because it causes further harm to the brand to go public with it
I would argue pretending that it's still on is more damaging to the brand. It's like saying the future of SW is guaranteed to be absolute shit and it's better to forget this brand.

As long as they have a novel to adapt and don't have to write their own plots it should be fine

This is the crazy fucking part, really. No other company so large would ever act this way because they'd shoot themselves into bankruptcy before ever being able to get this large. It's fucking mind boggling how dumb they've been with this brand.
They simply refuse to even look at let alone eat a damn crow already.

those scenes were written for them
they were in the books

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They cancel out each other and it will just turn out like a conventional movie.

WHAT A TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEST

The only fucking possible subversion because everyone will be expecting constant subversion anyway.

I'm so happy everyone doesn't give a shit about star wars and just wants more cape shit. Bury star wars, it's a mercy.

Not for me
Thank you

This was a good post. Now I'm waiting for the comfy dissolution of Disney so we can get real kino

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Read "Blame!" You might like it if you haven't already, it's rough, but good

Not enough rape scenes for my liking

Harberton dealt with this conundrum pretty well in Dune.

Fuck this shit. Star Wars is dead. Murderers of franchises colluding together. Subverting expectations to the point where no one will care

It did strike me as odd that there wansn't that much CYBER RAPE

But Kreia was right about the force though?

My nigga